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Topic: China Urges Philippines to Ban All Online Gambling! - page 7. (Read 1446 times)

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What do you guys think about China urges to ban all online gambling in Philippines?. One of their reason is that "The embassy said many of the Chinese citizens working illegally in Philippine casinos or POGOs and other forms of gambling entities are subjected to what media described as modern slavery due to severe limitation of their personal freedom and also Beijing welcomed the suspension of the issuance of new licenses for Philippine offshore gaming operations (POGO).
I am not sure what the "modern slavery" is all about if we are talking about the working conditions here in the Philippines for this Chinese workers. I see them walk around freely in Ortigas Center Pasig and live among the locals and they can easily blend with the crowd. If its the salary that they are talking about, that is subjective because the worker agreed to be paid in that amount. 
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Any further explanation about this news? Why are they talking about "modern slavery" is they are bullying a country and I think it is like the Philippines are their slaves telling us what to do or what to think of. It is all in the hands of our President, Rodrigo Duterte to ban or not to ban online gambling.
It's still dependable from how the Pres will see this concern. And since he's the leader of this country, then he's the one who's responsible whatever he wanted to treat this case. China can speak according to how they are seeing the problem. But since their jurisdiction is limited, they will need to wait from what the Philippine president's final statement, either it will be in their favor or if there's other way to treat this matter.
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I don’t know what’s the real motive of China about this another controversy but what I think is the issue of illegal gambling in the Philippines and also the illegal workers that involving all Chinese people.but whatever’s their position in this matter they should have asked the president politely not like slaves that whenever they declaring something Filipino has no option but to follow them.l
But you are right that President Duterte is still the last words for this and I trust him to give good verdict in everything special involving our sovereignty and freedom

It's because Chinese people are trying to go here just to do gambling. China has already banned gambling in their country so some Chinese businessman are trying to make money here in the Philippines through Gambling.

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Online gambling is not available to customers based in the Philippines and websites of such firms are blocked. ... Online gambling remains illegal under Chinese law, but as of June 2019, there were 56 licensed POGOs and an estimated workforce of over 100,000 Chinese citizens in Manila working in this sector.

Well, it's for our own security and hopes that China doesn't have any plan to destroy our economic stability.

To read more: https://www.rappler.com/nation/238192-china-wants-philippines-ban-online-gambling
I think China has no care what’s the economy of every countries they are abusing because what’s important to them is to gain and to benefits from the gambler in each country

And I believe that this is not about the Chinese creating gambling business here but it’s about the Philippine government and the law must be implemented ,because admit it or not there are still people in government that letting this  abuses happen just for good amount to go under their tables,things that the people of the Philippines are suffering.
Yeah President Duterte want everything to be under the law but he cannot do it herself and he needs us
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What do you guys think about China urges to ban all online gambling in Philippines?. One of their reason is that "The embassy said many of the Chinese citizens working illegally in Philippine casinos or POGOs and other forms of gambling entities are subjected to what media described as modern slavery due to severe limitation of their personal freedom and also Beijing welcomed the suspension of the issuance of new licenses for Philippine offshore gaming operations (POGO).
If even 90% that does online gambling here in the Philippines are only Chinese I guess that's more reasonable for China to ask but if not then I don't think it needs some attention by the Philippine government. Not all that do online gambling in the Philippines are Chinese and if that's the only reason they can think of then they should issue visas for their citizens that ban operating gambling or even gamble on offline/online casinos in the Philippines.
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Is that not fault pf the Philippines government, china people has no discipline because they all greedy, we know a lot of online gambling operate herein the Philippines is legit but some china citizen, stay herein in the phillipines to operate illegal gambling.
I think not a solution suspension, the solution is banned the Chinese people to enter in the Philippines due to bad reputation of their people.

Not all Chinese people don't have discipline in the gambling game. I am sure they have those discipline, not just in gambling but also in the other field. But I think that what your saying is right that some Chinese people run the gambling business in the Philippines. Perhaps, the Philippines government doesn't need to ban online gambling because that will be too difficult to do, except they block the internet access which contains the word "gambling" so all people in the Philippines cannot access online gambling websites. But that will not stop people from playing gambling as now, and they have another option to visit the gambling websites.
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Is that not fault pf the Philippines government, china people has no discipline because they all greedy, we know a lot of online gambling operate herein the Philippines is legit but some china citizen, stay herein in the phillipines to operate illegal gambling.
I think not a solution suspension, the solution is banned the Chinese people to enter in the Philippines due to bad reputation of their people.

I agree with you I think they are even encouraging their people to immigrate to China because they know they can act a superior here, Philippines immigration should limit the number of Chinese coming in, some of their businessman here are just exploiting local people by not giving the right wages.
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The thing about online gambling is that there are literally hundreds of online gambling sites located throughout the world, so banning online gambling in one country is not going to make a significant difference especially when one can use a VPN to access any online casino, poker room, sportsbook or bingo hall from anywhere in the world.
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Is that not fault pf the Philippines government, china people has no discipline because they all greedy, we know a lot of online gambling operate herein the Philippines is legit but some china citizen, stay herein in the phillipines to operate illegal gambling.
I think not a solution suspension, the solution is banned the Chinese people to enter in the Philippines due to bad reputation of their people.

exactly! am not being a racist here but common, i have had encountered chinese in my lifetime in so many ways, so i fully understand what youre saying here. they should not dictate the philippines on what to do but tell it to their people. tbh, they are out of the line here.
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Is that not fault pf the Philippines government, china people has no discipline because they all greedy, we know a lot of online gambling operate herein the Philippines is legit but some china citizen, stay herein in the phillipines to operate illegal gambling.
I think not a solution suspension, the solution is banned the Chinese people to enter in the Philippines due to bad reputation of their people.
I don't know what will chinese people think about banning them in philiplines. I'm sure you know what chinese people did to spratley island. Even their warship is in Philippine Area of Responsibility. Duterten said that it's okay that they can come in philippines just don't bring drugs or duterte will kill the chinese drug pusher.
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Is that not fault pf the Philippines government, china people has no discipline because they all greedy, we know a lot of online gambling operate herein the Philippines is legit but some china citizen, stay herein in the phillipines to operate illegal gambling.
I think not a solution suspension, the solution is banned the Chinese people to enter in the Philippines due to bad reputation of their people.
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Oh well, many Filipinos are complaining about the influx of Chinese workers here so this call should be supported by them.

I don't think the Philippine government will take heed to the call of the Chinese government because, at this point, it's one of the country's major source of income and it needs all the funds it can get to accomplish many of its huge plans.

Aside from illegal workers,  the Chinese government probably found it disturbing also that they are missing out on the incomes generated from online casinos.
If some of the factors you mentioned are true then I will support that the Filipin Government should not take the advice by the Chinese Government serious since they ( Filipino) are benefiting from casino business. I believe in the theory that someone must be worse off for another to be better off.
legendary
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Is Philippines part of Chinese territory? I had always thought Philippines is a country, or no? Or maybe Chinese government was just trying to get Philippines ban online gambling because it thinks alots of Chinese are moving to Philippines to gamble illegally and in poor condition. Well, I hope it is the latter.
Chinese were not gambling illegally, they were working illegally in those casinos in the Philippines. I think the Chinese government want was to get rid of these Chinese workers in the casino but i don't think it would be that easy to just ban gambling in the Philippines. The Philippines government should decide the decision because i know it would alter another problem if they did that automatically.
They tend to oppose then it will surely alter some problems yet they have currently have issue with that South china sea dispute problem but there are already some nations
whom do react on such issue https://www.rappler.com/world/global-affairs/239022-united-kingdom-france-germany-concerned-south-china-sea-tensions
Its actually a hard thing for PH to make such opposition and i believe they will deal on this one.
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Is Philippines part of Chinese territory? I had always thought Philippines is a country, or no? Or maybe Chinese government was just trying to get Philippines ban online gambling because it thinks alots of Chinese are moving to Philippines to gamble illegally and in poor condition. Well, I hope it is the latter.
Chinese were not gambling illegally, they were working illegally in those casinos in the Philippines. I think the Chinese government want was to get rid of these Chinese workers in the casino but i don't think it would be that easy to just ban gambling in the Philippines. The Philippines government should decide the decision because i know it would alter another problem if they did that automatically.
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LOL why get rid of an income stream just coz Chinese are running these illegal operations for their gambling thirsty brothers in the mainland? Just tighten immigration controls and monitor those coming in to make sure they are actually doing "proper" work.

The unemployment rate in the Philippines is high even for people with degrees so when you see immigrants from say China or Nigeria coming in and saying they're migrating for work, shouldn't you be suspicious?

What do you guys think about China urges to ban all online gambling in Philippines?. One of their reason is that "The embassy said many of the Chinese citizens working illegally in Philippine casinos or POGOs and other forms of gambling entities are subjected to what media described as modern slavery due to severe limitation of their personal freedom and also Beijing welcomed the suspension of the issuance of new licenses for Philippine offshore gaming operations (POGO).


Gambling is already ban in china. But around 250,000 Plus (Rough Estimate)  chinese nationals are doing gambling Jobs through this Pogo services. If they only ban the Chinese nationals, this problem can be solved. But I doubt Philippines have any intentions of doing this.

It's gone quite downhill that we now see Chinese nationals kidnapping Chinese tourist gamblers in the Philippines. It's often in the news. I would say go through the list of Chinese operated POGOs a shut down those that with violations. I think the Chinese should still be allowed in as tourists but not as workers in these obviously exploitative businesses.
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China want's to microhandle its citizens while gambling is deep rooted in Chinese society. There are many Chinese going to bordering town to gamble and many to launder their money. Macau and Hong Kong has been more restrictive that's why they are moving further. Chinese are familiar to online crypto gambling and a large amount of gambler comes from China.
If there is any country that would even want to put a stop to gambling, then it should definitely not be China because this people are born with gambling, gambling is inbuilt in them. I can boastfully say that the increased number of online gamblers is mostly from Asian and china to be specific.

I doubt it if Philippine government would comply with this because they also have a right to their decision making and moreover, they are not really in the same territory. I will have to get full information before I will understand better where this is coming from because the post is really not very explanatory enough for me to comprehend.
Its not really that hard to make up some google searches;

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-philippines-china-gambling/china-urges-philippines-to-ban-online-gambling-idUSKCN1VB16P
https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2019/08/22/1945493/china-urges-philippines-ban-all-online-gambling
https://news.abs-cbn.com/business/08/21/19/ban-all-online-gambling-china-urges-philippines

Decision will depend if PH will comply on this one.
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I don't think China was serious about this. They were just suggesting what could have been done since the government is banning POGO.

The Chinese are like:  If you are baning POGO, you might as well bann all kinds of online gambling.

If an ambassador has to read between the lines, its like Try baning all the online gambling in the Philippines and see what it can do to Philippine economy.
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source: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-philippines-china-gambling/china-urges-philippines-to-ban-online-gambling-idUSKCN1VB16P

Online gambling is just innovation from traditional gambling, and we all know that MACAU (one of the cities in China) is one of the largest CASINO cities in the world, so their reasons aren't quite right.

Online gambling is not dangerous, but fraudsters under the guise of online gambling which is dangerous, they should know that online gambling cannot be stopped, but they can regulate their existence under the laws of their respective countries.
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Is Philippines part of Chinese territory? I had always thought Philippines is a country, or no? Or maybe Chinese government was just trying to get Philippines ban online gambling because it thinks alots of Chinese are moving to Philippines to gamble illegally and in poor condition. Well, I hope it is the latter.
Well, that is a big NO. Nothing to worry because country of the Philippines was not under the territory of the Chinese government. If a lot of their citizen visits the Philippines and gamble how about the country of Macau there are also a lot of Chinese gamblers there. Who are they to dictate and demand the Filipino government just for their own sake? Philippines government and Chinese government has recently had controversy regarding West Philippine Sea territory. So, what now and what the reason for following their demand.
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Is Philippines part of Chinese territory? I had always thought Philippines is a country, or no? Or maybe Chinese government was just trying to get Philippines ban online gambling because it thinks alots of Chinese are moving to Philippines to gamble illegally and in poor condition. Well, I hope it is the latter.
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China want's to microhandle its citizens while gambling is deep rooted in Chinese society. There are many Chinese going to bordering town to gamble and many to launder their money. Macau and Hong Kong has been more restrictive that's why they are moving further. Chinese are familiar to online crypto gambling and a large amount of gambler comes from China.
If there is any country that would even want to put a stop to gambling, then it should definitely not be China because this people are born with gambling, gambling is inbuilt in them. I can boastfully say that the increased number of online gamblers is mostly from Asian and china to be specific.

I doubt it if Philippine government would comply with this because they also have a right to their decision making and moreover, they are not really in the same territory. I will have to get full information before I will understand better where this is coming from because the post is really not very explanatory enough for me to comprehend.
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