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Quote from: Maidak on February 25, 2022, 04:28:56 AM

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The problem is that there is already enough hatred between Pakistan and India and I have to say that I don't think Any of the Pakistani and Indian politicians like each other or I think they don't even like anything about the other country. And it is just exploiting the weakness of regular people which is saying something about their religion or anything else to make them angry against each other. And the media of both countries does a really good job of making sure that people keep hating on each other.

The funny thing is that both are same people who speaks the same language and yet they hate each other, i believe it is political and there is not much hate between normal citizens in both countries. The media and the politicians always want conflict so that they can sell those hatred and win elections Cheesy

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Quote from: Maidak on February 25, 2022, 04:28:56 AM

I really don't think that there would have been many problems playing Pakistan players in the IPL but the main reason is hatred. and as long as Modi is the prime minister of India at thinking this hatred will be going on.

So what is his position as a leader, looks like he is a joke with all the memes and compilations i have seen about his brilliance about war tactics and radar technology Cheesy

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Well, I am sure the people who made those names and jokes are probably taken care of by now Cheesy

. I've heard Indian people from some subcontinent talking about, Modi Govt's favoring Hinduism over democracy. Everyone, even in India, has a really good idea about what I am talking about.

Anyway, let's talk about sports. I really don't think that the political situation is going to get better between these two countries very soon and until that time we are not going to see any series played between these teams.

Well I am from India and I dont agree with this at all that it is favouring hinduism above democracy. All the muslims are living in the country with 100% freedom and their situations is better than other muslim nations around the world. But it is spread all over that this government in favouring hinduism only.
Talking about cricket yes I also dont see this happening may for 3 to 4 years atleast or even more.

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Quote from: Maidak on February 25, 2022, 04:28:56 AM

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The problem is that there is already enough hatred between Pakistan and India and I have to say that I don't think Any of the Pakistani and Indian politicians like each other or I think they don't even like anything about the other country. And it is just exploiting the weakness of regular people which is saying something about their religion or anything else to make them angry against each other. And the media of both countries does a really good job of making sure that people keep hating on each other.

The funny thing is that both are same people who speaks the same language and yet they hate each other, i believe it is political and there is not much hate between normal citizens in both countries. The media and the politicians always want conflict so that they can sell those hatred and win elections Cheesy

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Quote from: Maidak on February 25, 2022, 04:28:56 AM

I really don't think that there would have been many problems playing Pakistan players in the IPL but the main reason is hatred. and as long as Modi is the prime minister of India at thinking this hatred will be going on.

So what is his position as a leader, looks like he is a joke with all the memes and compilations i have seen about his brilliance about war tactics and radar technology Cheesy

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Well, I am sure the people who made those names and jokes are probably taken care of by now Cheesy

. I've heard Indian people from some subcontinent talking about, Modi Govt's favoring Hinduism over democracy. Everyone, even in India, has a really good idea about what I am talking about.

Anyway, let's talk about sports. I really don't think that the political situation is going to get better between these two countries very soon and until that time we are not going to see any series played between these teams.

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The key take away from this Pak/India series is that there is no chance of series at least in this decade. Pakistan and India will only play in ICC tournaments like WC and Champions trophy. Lots of Pakistani and Indian players are good friends like we see Shoaib and Harbhajan tweeitng each other. So the issue is not of players but of rulers.

Right now any talk about Pakistan/India is completely waste of time because currently in India we have very strict religious peoples in control and their all politics is just against Pakistan, so they will never allow this even if they lost election then still there are no chances for any because currently hate is on his highest level with recently hijab debate is also working as oil in this fire, so I am feeling talking about this is also waste of time and energy we have too many other topics as well right now for talk just drop this idea and talk about other issues related to cricket and about development is much better for all members.
If few players are friends then still they can't afford many things because they all know how reaction can come against them which will hurt them and their families, so it's all just useless in subcontinent right now.

I think a few players are still friends with each other in India and Pakistan but the problem is we have seen the fans of both countries do some stupid things. we all remember when India lost to Bangladesh in the 2007 world cup. People were burning down things in front of the players' houses and verbally abusing them.

So, I think we all can guess how it would be if any player talks about anything good of Pakistan. and I think something same like that could also happen in Pakistan.

Quote from: Sithara007 on February 25, 2022, 02:52:35 PM

Punjabi players like Yuvraj Singh, Navjot Sidhu and Harbhajan Singh often keep good relationship with the Pakistani players because they feel culturally very close to that country. But don't expect that from the other players. Even Virat Kohli, with all his wokeism doesn't have the courage to do something like that. For now, let's contend with the matches in ICC tournaments. Some of the fringe political groups in India are now demanding that the government shouldn't allow even these matches to proceed.

If people were saying that the matches of India vs Pakistan shouldn't be even played under ICC tournaments and regulations I think they have just lost their mind and they are just some lifeless beings who have nothing better to do than spread hate all over the world.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on February 25, 2022, 10:02:55 AM

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I think that is the main reason why Pakistan players are not allowed in the IPL because they think Pakistan will make a huge amount of money off of it.

But the ironry is that players have no control over this matter and the sole authority in this matter is governments of both countries.
There are news of cricket coming from Ukraine as CEO of Ukraine Cricket Federation saying, 'Developing cricket in Ukraine has almost been an obsession'. I never knew that there is Cricket association in Ukraine. Lets hope things get settled peacefully and we see normal life returning to Ukarine.
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I actually did not know that Ukraine was into cricket. The recent things that are going on in that country are absolutely inhuman.

And we can see how the political situation can affect everything in that country. Unless the situation gets better they have a lot bigger problems to solve in their hand rather than cricket. And even after returning to normal life, the country will have to concentrate on its structural development first. Cricket in Ukraine just went behind a lot of years.

Quote from: Lordshiva on February 25, 2022, 10:33:11 AM

The only reason that pakistan players are not allowed in IPL is because of political issues between the two countries. This actually I dont like, why we bring sports in between political issues. I am sure players from both countries want to play with each other and against each other. We as cricket fans also want this match up but sadly I dont see this happen any time soon because of political tension between india and pakistan.

I agree that we should not bring sports into political issues but the thing is in the Indian subcontinent politics controls sports and almost every other thing in these countries.

You have also said that if it was not for the political tension we would see the India VS Pakistan series. But right now I think ok I like the way Pakistan is going about things. There was a time when they thought it would make a huge impact for them to play in IPL or have played against India but now I think they most probably don't care.

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Quote from: perfect999 on February 25, 2022, 11:54:56 PM

Right now any talk about Pakistan/India is completely waste of time because currently in India we have very strict religious peoples in control and their all politics is just against Pakistan, so they will never allow this even if they lost election then still there are no chances for any because currently hate is on his highest level with recently hijab debate is also working as oil in this fire, so I am feeling talking about this is also waste of time and energy we have too many other topics as well right now for talk just drop this idea and talk about other issues related to cricket and about development is much better for all members.

If few players are friends then still they can't afford many things because they all know how reaction can come against them which will hurt them and their families, so it's all just useless in subcontinent right now.

I do agree that there is no point in discussing this issue of India Pakistan matches or series as it will never happen. In India we have a clown who just keep on digging issues that are of no matter like CAA, farmers law and now hijab law. So he won't allow matches with Pakistan just to spread more hate.

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Quote from: galambo on February 25, 2022, 01:00:31 PM

The key take away from this Pak/India series is that there is no chance of series at least in this decade. Pakistan and India will only play in ICC tournaments like WC and Champions trophy. Lots of Pakistani and Indian players are good friends like we see Shoaib and Harbhajan tweeitng each other. So the issue is not of players but of rulers.

Right now any talk about Pakistan/India is completely waste of time because currently in India we have very strict religious peoples in control and their all politics is just against Pakistan, so they will never allow this even if they lost election then still there are no chances for any because currently hate is on his highest level with recently hijab debate is also working as oil in this fire, so I am feeling talking about this is also waste of time and energy we have too many other topics as well right now for talk just drop this idea and talk about other issues related to cricket and about development is much better for all members.

If few players are friends then still they can't afford many things because they all know how reaction can come against them which will hurt them and their families, so it's all just useless in subcontinent right now.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 25, 2022, 02:52:35 PM

Punjabi players like Yuvraj Singh, Navjot Sidhu and Harbhajan Singh often keep good relationship with the Pakistani players because they feel culturally very close to that country. But don't expect that from the other players. Even Virat Kohli, with all his wokeism doesn't have the courage to do something like that. For now, let's contend with the matches in ICC tournaments. Some of the fringe political groups in India are now demanding that the government shouldn't allow even these matches to proceed.

These fringe political groups pressure was also one reason why India lost to Pakistan in last T20 WC as there players were under pressure and not sure about the game while Pakistani players focused on the game. I would say Pakistani players are a bit liberal in this matter as they don't have pressure from any group to avoid Indian players.

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Quote from: Maidak on February 25, 2022, 04:28:56 AM

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The problem is that there is already enough hatred between Pakistan and India and I have to say that I don't think Any of the Pakistani and Indian politicians like each other or I think they don't even like anything about the other country. And it is just exploiting the weakness of regular people which is saying something about their religion or anything else to make them angry against each other. And the media of both countries does a really good job of making sure that people keep hating on each other.

The funny thing is that both are same people who speaks the same language and yet they hate each other, i believe it is political and there is not much hate between normal citizens in both countries. The media and the politicians always want conflict so that they can sell those hatred and win elections Cheesy

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Quote from: Maidak on February 25, 2022, 04:28:56 AM

I really don't think that there would have been many problems playing Pakistan players in the IPL but the main reason is hatred. and as long as Modi is the prime minister of India at thinking this hatred will be going on.

So what is his position as a leader, looks like he is a joke with all the memes and compilations i have seen about his brilliance about war tactics and radar technology Cheesy

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Quote from: galambo on February 25, 2022, 01:00:31 PM

The key take away from this Pak/India series is that there is no chance of series at least in this decade. Pakistan and India will only play in ICC tournaments like WC and Champions trophy. Lots of Pakistani and Indian players are good friends like we see Shoaib and Harbhajan tweeitng each other. So the issue is not of players but of rulers.

Punjabi players like Yuvraj Singh, Navjot Sidhu and Harbhajan Singh often keep good relationship with the Pakistani players because they feel culturally very close to that country. But don't expect that from the other players. Even Virat Kohli, with all his wokeism doesn't have the courage to do something like that. For now, let's contend with the matches in ICC tournaments. Some of the fringe political groups in India are now demanding that the government shouldn't allow even these matches to proceed.

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Quote from: Lordshiva on February 25, 2022, 10:33:11 AM

The only reason that pakistan players are not allowed in IPL is because of political issues between the two countries. This actually I dont like, why we bring sports in between political issues. I am sure players from both countries want to play with each other and against each other. We as cricket fans also want this match up but sadly I dont see this happen any time soon because of political tension between india and pakistan.

The key take away from this Pak/India series is that there is no chance of series at least in this decade. Pakistan and India will only play in ICC tournaments like WC and Champions trophy. Lots of Pakistani and Indian players are good friends like we see Shoaib and Harbhajan tweeitng each other. So the issue is not of players but of rulers.

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I think that is the main reason why Pakistan players are not allowed in the IPL because they think Pakistan will make a huge amount of money off of it.

But the ironry is that players have no control over this matter and the sole authority in this matter is governments of both countries.

There are news of cricket coming from Ukraine as CEO of Ukraine Cricket Federation saying, 'Developing cricket in Ukraine has almost been an obsession'. I never knew that there is Cricket association in Ukraine. Lets hope things get settled peacefully and we see normal life returning to Ukarine.

"I'm not sure if our cricket oval will survive the bombings. It's a new ground with pavilions being installed and there is a beautiful indoor facility with nets to be set up. That was going to be our cricket headquarters… I'm not sure now" Olivier on the cricket facilities in Kharkiv

The only reason that pakistan players are not allowed in IPL is because of political issues between the two countries. This actually I dont like, why we bring sports in between political issues. I am sure players from both countries want to play with each other and against each other. We as cricket fans also want this match up but sadly I dont see this happen any time soon because of political tension between india and pakistan.

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Quote from: Minecache on February 25, 2022, 05:29:17 AM

I think that is the main reason why Pakistan players are not allowed in the IPL because they think Pakistan will make a huge amount of money off of it.

But the ironry is that players have no control over this matter and the sole authority in this matter is governments of both countries.

There are news of cricket coming from Ukraine as CEO of Ukraine Cricket Federation saying, 'Developing cricket in Ukraine has almost been an obsession'. I never knew that there is Cricket association in Ukraine. Lets hope things get settled peacefully and we see normal life returning to Ukarine.

"I'm not sure if our cricket oval will survive the bombings. It's a new ground with pavilions being installed and there is a beautiful indoor facility with nets to be set up. That was going to be our cricket headquarters… I'm not sure now" Olivier on the cricket facilities in Kharkiv

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Quote from: blatchcorn on February 24, 2022, 11:08:38 AM

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Pakistan and India matches are always interesting as they both hate losing each other. The rivalry between India and Pakistan is far ahead of what we see in Ashes. Ashes is played on regular basis while last time India and Pakistan series was held decade ago. Sunil Gavaskar once said " there is more chance of snow in lahore(hot city of Pakistan)then India Pakistan series "

Well by this quote of Sunil Gavaskar I think we can understand in which situation this India versus Pakistan is in. I really don't think that the players have too much objection to playing against each other.

In my opinion, it's more like the people in power who are ultimately controlled by the government, have a huge problem about this. And they just have to prove that they are better than the other, also don't want to give any benefit or else I think I should say, that watch out that the other party does not get benefited in any way.

I think that is the main reason why Pakistan players are not allowed in the IPL because they think Pakistan will make a huge amount of money off of it.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on February 24, 2022, 06:08:14 PM

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BCCI and Indian government never allowed Pakistani players to be participated in IPL because they all know about this and sentiment in India against Pakistan is very high right now under Modi regime even now if these lost election then still there is no way for this due to hate which recently too much spread by religious peoples across the subcontinent and other thing is in India they believe if Pakistan is going to have any profit or good result just because of India never do this, so we all watch what happen in first edition of IPL when many Pakistani players were on high and steal this show from this day they feel its never been good, so they ban Pakistani Players from participating into this event, and now it's never going to happen positive in next few decades.

The reasons are twisted here, Pakistan players participated in the IPL during the initial tournament and when the Mumbai terror attack happened these sanctions came into place, if the Pakistan government was willing to weed out the terrorist i am sure there wont be any sanctions but they never took the responsibility of the attack when it was evident that the attack was carried out from Pakistan.
To say that the players are not included because they performed well is not the truth, Mumbai attack the aftermath is the reason for not allowing Pakistan players in the IPL and the cricket ties between India and Pakistan became standstill after that.

The problem is that there is already enough hatred between Pakistan and India and I have to say that I don't think Any of the Pakistani and Indian politicians like each other or I think they don't even like anything about the other country. And it is just exploiting the weakness of regular people which is saying something about their religion or anything else to make them angry against each other. And the media of both countries does a really good job of making sure that people keep hating on each other.

I really don't think that there would have been many problems playing Pakistan players in the IPL but the main reason is hatred. and as long as Modi is the prime minister of India at thinking this hatred will be going on.

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Quote from: Indymoney on February 24, 2022, 02:44:37 PM

BCCI and Indian government never allowed Pakistani players to be participated in IPL because they all know about this and sentiment in India against Pakistan is very high right now under Modi regime even now if these lost election then still there is no way for this due to hate which recently too much spread by religious peoples across the subcontinent and other thing is in India they believe if Pakistan is going to have any profit or good result just because of India never do this, so we all watch what happen in first edition of IPL when many Pakistani players were on high and steal this show from this day they feel its never been good, so they ban Pakistani Players from participating into this event, and now it's never going to happen positive in next few decades.

India government blame Pakistan for every terror attack in India while Pakistan government blame India for unrest in Balochistan and Western province of the country. Its basically the hate due to which Indian government don't wanna see Pakistani players in action at IPL. Why would you give crore of INR to your enemy?

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Quote from: Indymoney on February 24, 2022, 02:44:37 PM

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BCCI and Indian government never allowed Pakistani players to be participated in IPL because they all know about this and sentiment in India against Pakistan is very high right now under Modi regime even now if these lost election then still there is no way for this due to hate which recently too much spread by religious peoples across the subcontinent and other thing is in India they believe if Pakistan is going to have any profit or good result just because of India never do this, so we all watch what happen in first edition of IPL when many Pakistani players were on high and steal this show from this day they feel its never been good, so they ban Pakistani Players from participating into this event, and now it's never going to happen positive in next few decades.

The reasons are twisted here, Pakistan players participated in the IPL during the initial tournament and when the Mumbai terror attack happened these sanctions came into place, if the Pakistan government was willing to weed out the terrorist i am sure there wont be any sanctions but they never took the responsibility of the attack when it was evident that the attack was carried out from Pakistan.

To say that the players are not included because they performed well is not the truth, Mumbai attack the aftermath is the reason for not allowing Pakistan players in the IPL and the cricket ties between India and Pakistan became standstill after that.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on February 24, 2022, 07:37:57 AM

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It could have been a better experience if both IPL and PSL allowed each other countries players but to be realistic, both countries do not need other country's players or support to make them successful. IPL is a successful league without any Pakistani players and similarly, PSL is a great league without the Indian players.

Pakistan and India both have produced great players both in the past and right now like Shaheen, kohli, Rizwan, Rohit and more. IPL is doing fine without Pakistan players but it will be more entertaining to see Pakistani players playing IPL. BCCI dominance in cricket can be seen from the fact that they never allowed there players to play any league. As long as politicians of both countries don't have a consent, we will continue to miss action cricket of both countries against each other.

BCCI and Indian government never allowed Pakistani players to be participated in IPL because they all know about this and sentiment in India against Pakistan is very high right now under Modi regime even now if these lost election then still there is no way for this due to hate which recently too much spread by religious peoples across the subcontinent and other thing is in India they believe if Pakistan is going to have any profit or good result just because of India never do this, so we all watch what happen in first edition of IPL when many Pakistani players were on high and steal this show from this day they feel its never been good, so they ban Pakistani Players from participating into this event, and now it's never going to happen positive in next few decades.

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Quote from: Minecache on February 24, 2022, 09:22:49 AM

Actually, I am ok with Pakistani players not playing in IPL and Indian players not playing in PSL.

But what I want to see is India versus Pakistan international matches on a regular basis which is not happening at all right now. I am much more interested to see these two teams play against each other rather than the players of both countries playing in their own respective League. And obviously, this is not going to happen as long as their political situation stays like this. Not having many teams playing cricket is also a reason for this. The BCCI is basically doing whatever they want right now.

Pakistan and India matches are always interesting as they both hate losing each other. The rivalry between India and Pakistan is far ahead of what we see in Ashes. Ashes is played on regular basis while last time India and Pakistan series was held decade ago. Sunil Gavaskar once said " there is more chance of snow in lahore(hot city of Pakistan)then India Pakistan series "

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@jostorres, I think BCCI is getting too cocky now. They are taking absolutely every type of advantage that they can get from this situation. And they are just throwing money on the faces of the people who are even trying to talk against them and that is making both sides very happy.

I think a League can be controlled by the BCCI because IPL is their tournament, and they have the right to decide what happens in it but the international matches or tournament should not be affected by BCCI in any way.

But we all know that BCCI is a big reason why India versus Pakistan matches are not being played right now. And obviously, the situation or should I say political situation between both the countries are playing a big part in it. I think we can see why, because India has a lot of politicians in the BCCI, and obviously the prime minister of Pakistan is Imran Khan…

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I think you are missing some important things here. Pakistan players are not allowed to play in IPL because of the political situation between both the two countries. As far as i know , the pakistan board will also not allow players to play in IPL.
And why would BBL ban West Indies ? They will never ban them as every league wants good international players to come and play the league. If leagues start banning international players, no one will be willing to watch tournaments with national players only.

With too much politics involved in cricket specially between Pakistan and India most chances we will have no solid and good policy in ICC for many things and with this all BCCI will take some good advantage as currently they are very strong and having upper hand with the help of money involved in cricket. As many times few Indian and Pakistan members already post that there is no solution between these two countries problems in next one decade so forget about any positive link and BCCI is taking full advantage of their relationship with ECB, CA and CSA because now they are ignoring many other countries as well which are not profitable for their marketing purpose.
Agree with this statement, BBL never ban any player or country as they need some good foreign players for their league, and it's helping them for having quality game in their league.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on February 24, 2022, 07:37:57 AM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on February 24, 2022, 07:27:10 AM

It could have been a better experience if both IPL and PSL allowed each other countries players but to be realistic, both countries do not need other country's players or support to make them successful. IPL is a successful league without any Pakistani players and similarly, PSL is a great league without the Indian players.

Pakistan and India both have produced great players both in the past and right now like Shaheen, kohli, Rizwan, Rohit and more. IPL is doing fine without Pakistan players but it will be more entertaining to see Pakistani players playing IPL. BCCI dominance in cricket can be seen from the fact that they never allowed there players to play any league. As long as politicians of both countries don't have a consent, we will continue to miss action cricket of both countries against each other.

Actually, I am ok with Pakistani players not playing in IPL and Indian players not playing in PSL.

But what I want to see is India versus Pakistan international matches on a regular basis which is not happening at all right now. I am much more interested to see these two teams play against each other rather than the players of both countries playing in their own respective League. And obviously, this is not going to happen as long as their political situation stays like this. Not having many teams playing cricket is also a reason for this. The BCCI is basically doing whatever they want right now.

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