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Quote from: blatchcorn on February 17, 2022, 08:36:40 AM

Political situation between both countries take twist when big powers intervene. I don't think it will be dry period forever and we can't say when it will last. India likes to play with Pakistan in icc events only since they have better record against Pakistan there. Victory in last T20 WC was first ever win by Pakistan against India in WC.

In this case, the dry period is going to last for a while. As of now, I don't think that there is any chance of a resumption of cricketing ties between these two countries. And that will be the case even if the government changes. So for now, we have to contend with whatever we get during the ICC tournaments. In fact there have been demands from some of the political parties in India that they should stop playing against Pakistan even during the ICC tournaments such as World Cup and Champions Trophy.

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Quote from: KennyR on February 17, 2022, 07:22:58 PM

Do you guys watch the women's cricket. India Women is playing against New Zealand Women in the third ODI. India Women is playing a 5 match ODI series touring New Zealand. First two matches were a win for New Zealand, the second match was very close and this match also doesn't look like a win for India Women who have managed to score 195 runs losing 5 wickets in 34 overs.

Right now NZ women need 149 runs in 23 overs. Both teams are in winning position. India bowling done good job to get rid of top NZ batting line except Amelia Kerr who is still not out on 55 runs. A wicket or two here may tilt the game towards Indian women.

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Do you guys watch the women's cricket. India Women is playing against New Zealand Women in the third ODI. India Women is playing a 5 match ODI series touring New Zealand. First two matches were a win for New Zealand, the second match was very close and this match also doesn't look like a win for India Women who have managed to score 195 runs losing 5 wickets in 34 overs.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on February 17, 2022, 08:01:49 AM

The problem is that everyone knows there is a certain problem but no one seems to give the solution. And no solution is going to work if not the tension between the two countries reduces.

And as we know that the political leaders control almost everything about sport in a country, I don't think the situation is going to improve even in the next 10 years in my opinion. I actually think that both the teams have accepted the fact and moved on and I think that is something that we should also do as fans. The only time we are going to see India versus Pakistan is in the ICC events.

Political situation between both countries take twist when big powers intervene. I don't think it will be dry period forever and we can't say when it will last. India likes to play with Pakistan in icc events only since they have better record against Pakistan there. Victory in last T20 WC was first ever win by Pakistan against India in WC.

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As few other members already mention tension and other problems related to these countries, surely no one has doubt we will never watch bilateral series between these two countries in next few decades because no one want to solve issues even most of political parties trying to have some better number game with this tension. But good thing we can watch these countries only in ICC events which is also not bad at all as we read few days back all tickets sold out in few hours for match between India vs Pakistan in upcoming ICC twenty/20 World Cup which is going to hold in Australia. Other than this we have nothing special from these countries, specially in cricket because mostly politicians fees it is a better way to create hate between these countries peoples, so they are fueling this all.

With now IPL is next biggest event coming in few weeks hopefully things could be good as recently we have many cases with covid19 and many players are also having problem with this all.

The problem is that everyone knows there is a certain problem but no one seems to give the solution. And no solution is going to work if not the tension between the two countries reduces.

And as we know that the political leaders control almost everything about sport in a country, I don't think the situation is going to improve even in the next 10 years in my opinion. I actually think that both the teams have accepted the fact and moved on and I think that is something that we should also do as fans. The only time we are going to see India versus Pakistan is in the ICC events.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on February 16, 2022, 06:05:05 PM

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Forget about any bilateral series between these two nations for the next 20 years at least. The political spectrum in both India and Pakistan has moved very hard to the right and extreme voices are having complete dominance as of now. As per the scheduling, India was supposed to visit Pakistan one and half decades back, but they pulled out citing border clashes and terror attacks. The ICC has adopted a neutral stance on this matter, saying that the two countries should resolve the differences amicably.

Why next 20 years, you think the right wing extreme skilless imbeciles will be ruling for the next two more decades. Oh god i never think so, i will be surprised if they will be able to regain power during the next elections, you can fool people for a while with the gimmicks but not all the time.

I actually think the opposite because this is not something that has been happening for one or two years. This has been happening for a long time between Pakistan and India. And will be happening in the future also in my opinion. And yes the people in power are dumb, but they are the people in power. If you know what I mean...

Quote from: Sithara007 on February 16, 2022, 09:13:47 PM

At least in India, there seems to be no unified opposition. The 2024 battle is going to be between the BJP (which is a pan-India party) and the TMC (which is mostly limited to West Bengal). I don't know much about the situation in Pakistan, but I guess Imran Khan doesn't have to deal with an effective opposition. I am not hearing much about either the PPP or the PML. And in reality it doesn't matter even if the government changes. I don't think that the other parties would take a favorable stance to the bilateral tour.

Under the current situation, I don't think that even if the government changes it will have any effect on the opinion that both countries hate each other. And that's why I don't see this series happening in the recent future. The government change is not something that will help the cause too much in my opinion.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 16, 2022, 09:13:47 PM

At least in India, there seems to be no unified opposition. The 2024 battle is going to be between the BJP (which is a pan-India party) and the TMC (which is mostly limited to West Bengal). I don't know much about the situation in Pakistan, but I guess Imran Khan doesn't have to deal with an effective opposition. I am not hearing much about either the PPP or the PML. And in reality it doesn't matter even if the government changes. I don't think that the other parties would take a favorable stance to the bilateral tour.

Things have gone tough between both countries but not upto that extent. They haven't played any test match against eachother over a decade now. In India Congress is another big party who can beat BJP in 2024. While in Pakistan PTI and PMLn are big contestors for 2023 elections.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on February 16, 2022, 06:05:05 PM

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Forget about any bilateral series between these two nations for the next 20 years at least. The political spectrum in both India and Pakistan has moved very hard to the right and extreme voices are having complete dominance as of now. As per the scheduling, India was supposed to visit Pakistan one and half decades back, but they pulled out citing border clashes and terror attacks. The ICC has adopted a neutral stance on this matter, saying that the two countries should resolve the differences amicably.

Why next 20 years, you think the right wing extreme skilless imbeciles will be ruling for the next two more decades. Oh god i never think so, i will be surprised if they will be able to regain power during the next elections, you can fool people for a while with the gimmicks but not all the time.

At least in India, there seems to be no unified opposition. The 2024 battle is going to be between the BJP (which is a pan-India party) and the TMC (which is mostly limited to West Bengal). I don't know much about the situation in Pakistan, but I guess Imran Khan doesn't have to deal with an effective opposition. I am not hearing much about either the PPP or the PML. And in reality it doesn't matter even if the government changes. I don't think that the other parties would take a favorable stance to the bilateral tour.

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Quote from: Theones on February 14, 2022, 10:54:48 AM

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Media job is to create hype and its not limited to India and Pakistan, see the role of global media in pandemic they only spread news that has spice in it. In any of the ICC event, Pakistan India match is the most electrified match perhaps more important than then the final. ICC must step in and made it compulsory for both countries to play bilateral series.

As a cricket fan even though i do not watch all the matches now due to time constraints, i will make sure i get to watch if India and Pakistan are playing, but there is no way ICC is going to interfere in this issue as they never did in the past and i do not see that changing either.

Quote from: Sithara007 on February 14, 2022, 09:32:48 PM

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Forget about any bilateral series between these two nations for the next 20 years at least. The political spectrum in both India and Pakistan has moved very hard to the right and extreme voices are having complete dominance as of now. As per the scheduling, India was supposed to visit Pakistan one and half decades back, but they pulled out citing border clashes and terror attacks. The ICC has adopted a neutral stance on this matter, saying that the two countries should resolve the differences amicably.

Why next 20 years, you think the right wing extreme skilless imbeciles will be ruling for the next two more decades. Oh god i never think so, i will be surprised if they will be able to regain power during the next elections, you can fool people for a while with the gimmicks but not all the time.

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Quote from: savetheFORUM on February 16, 2022, 12:24:37 PM

As few other members already mention tension and other problems related to these countries, surely no one has doubt we will never watch bilateral series between these two countries in next few decades because no one want to solve issues even most of political parties trying to have some better number game with this tension. But good thing we can watch these countries only in ICC events which is also not bad at all as we read few days back all tickets sold out in few hours for match between India vs Pakistan in upcoming ICC twenty/20 World Cup which is going to hold in Australia. Other than this we have nothing special from these countries, specially in cricket because mostly politicians fees it is a better way to create hate between these countries peoples, so they are fueling this all.

India Pakistan series will give financial benefits to both boards also specially to PCB who is struggling with funds. Also if we have more cricket b/w both countries then people will not be that much crazy for ICC event match. May be through cricket ice can melt between both countries. Hope for good.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on February 15, 2022, 08:15:25 AM

I really don't believe that Pakistan versus India is going to happen anytime soon except for the world cup maybe because I don't think any of these teams are going to tour the other. The political standpoint of both countries are really very bad at the moment and even if we see a tour between these teams I don't think it is going to be very soon.

IPL matches are going to be quite interesting. the starting match is between Kolkata Knight Riders versus Chennai Super Kings and this match is going to be really interesting and competitive in my opinion as both teams look quite good for this year's IPL.

As few other members already mention tension and other problems related to these countries, surely no one has doubt we will never watch bilateral series between these two countries in next few decades because no one want to solve issues even most of political parties trying to have some better number game with this tension. But good thing we can watch these countries only in ICC events which is also not bad at all as we read few days back all tickets sold out in few hours for match between India vs Pakistan in upcoming ICC twenty/20 World Cup which is going to hold in Australia. Other than this we have nothing special from these countries, specially in cricket because mostly politicians fees it is a better way to create hate between these countries peoples, so they are fueling this all.

With now IPL is next biggest event coming in few weeks hopefully things could be good as recently we have many cases with covid19 and many players are also having problem with this all.

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Quote from: Lordshiva on February 15, 2022, 10:58:27 AM

I am also very excited for this years IPL. Mainly because of 2 new team being added and alot of players have been exchanged between teams. I lost a bit of interest in IPL in last couple of seasons but these things bought a new freshness in the IPL and I am looking forward to it.
This year also I am backing Chennai super kings to perform well.

Interesting facts about IPL auction keep coming, there are 15 IPL auction so far and MS Dohni is the only man who was bidded by all the teams at the auction (true or not). In 2022 IPL he is retained by Chennai for 12 crore while Deepak Chahar was bought for 14 crore.

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IPL matches are going to be quite interesting. the starting match is between Kolkata Knight Riders versus Chennai Super Kings and this match is going to be really interesting and competitive in my opinion as both teams look quite good for this year's IPL.

IPL auction was full of surprises this time as players like Morgan and Finch went unsold after multiple rounds of auction. First match of IPL will be on 2nd April and before that India is scheduled to play an odi series against Afghanistan. Lots of exciting matches will be seen in IPL like every year.

I am also very excited for this years IPL. Mainly because of 2 new team being added and alot of players have been exchanged between teams. I lost a bit of interest in IPL in last couple of seasons but these things bought a new freshness in the IPL and I am looking forward to it.
This year also I am backing Chennai super kings to perform well.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on February 15, 2022, 08:15:25 AM

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IPL matches are going to be quite interesting. the starting match is between Kolkata Knight Riders versus Chennai Super Kings and this match is going to be really interesting and competitive in my opinion as both teams look quite good for this year's IPL.

IPL auction was full of surprises this time as players like Morgan and Finch went unsold after multiple rounds of auction. First match of IPL will be on 2nd April and before that India is scheduled to play an odi series against Afghanistan. Lots of exciting matches will be seen in IPL like every year.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 14, 2022, 09:32:48 PM

Forget about any bilateral series between these two nations for the next 20 years at least. The political spectrum in both India and Pakistan has moved very hard to the right and extreme voices are having complete dominance as of now. As per the scheduling, India was supposed to visit Pakistan one and half decades back, but they pulled out citing border clashes and terror attacks. The ICC has adopted a neutral stance on this matter, saying that the two countries should resolve the differences amicably.

Pakistan toured India for 3 ODI series in Jan 2013. So it was India turn to tour back Pakistan but they never went there. We can't say how political situation will be in next few years, so we can never say that there is zero chance of cricket between both countries. May be we have less hard line governments on both sides in coming elections.

@coinism if there’s something common between all the political parties in India it’s their stand against touring to Pakistan, or letting them come over to play so yea it’ll take many year’s before we see a series between these two sides.

@Sithara007 I think it’s time to move focus on IPL now, and with so many changes I feel it’ll be an open contest between all the teams, so anyone keen to make early predictions?.

I really don't believe that Pakistan versus India is going to happen anytime soon except for the world cup maybe because I don't think any of these teams are going to tour the other. The political standpoint of both countries are really very bad at the moment and even if we see a tour between these teams I don't think it is going to be very soon.

IPL matches are going to be quite interesting. the starting match is between Kolkata Knight Riders versus Chennai Super Kings and this match is going to be really interesting and competitive in my opinion as both teams look quite good for this year's IPL.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on February 15, 2022, 02:22:51 AM

@coinism if there’s something common between all the political parties in India it’s their stand against touring to Pakistan, or letting them come over to play so yea it’ll take many year’s before we see a series between these two sides. @Sithara007 I think it’s time to move focus on IPL now, and with so many changes I feel it’ll be an open contest between all the teams, so anyone keen to make early predictions?.

There were voices in India ahead of T20 match b/w India and Pakistan that the match must be boycotted. But the match was played and what a match that was. I think Pakistan have no issues in playing with India. In-fact players from both side have no issues touring each other. Powerful ICC can make such bilateral series happen but not this weak ICC.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 14, 2022, 09:32:48 PM

Forget about any bilateral series between these two nations for the next 20 years at least. The political spectrum in both India and Pakistan has moved very hard to the right and extreme voices are having complete dominance as of now. As per the scheduling, India was supposed to visit Pakistan one and half decades back, but they pulled out citing border clashes and terror attacks. The ICC has adopted a neutral stance on this matter, saying that the two countries should resolve the differences amicably.

Pakistan toured India for 3 ODI series in Jan 2013. So it was India turn to tour back Pakistan but they never went there. We can't say how political situation will be in next few years, so we can never say that there is zero chance of cricket between both countries. May be we have less hard line governments on both sides in coming elections.

@coinism if there’s something common between all the political parties in India it’s their stand against touring to Pakistan, or letting them come over to play so yea it’ll take many year’s before we see a series between these two sides. @Sithara007 I think it’s time to move focus on IPL now, and with so many changes I feel it’ll be an open contest between all the teams, so anyone keen to make early predictions?.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 14, 2022, 09:32:48 PM

Forget about any bilateral series between these two nations for the next 20 years at least. The political spectrum in both India and Pakistan has moved very hard to the right and extreme voices are having complete dominance as of now. As per the scheduling, India was supposed to visit Pakistan one and half decades back, but they pulled out citing border clashes and terror attacks. The ICC has adopted a neutral stance on this matter, saying that the two countries should resolve the differences amicably.

Pakistan toured India for 3 ODI series in Jan 2013. So it was India turn to tour back Pakistan but they never went there. We can't say how political situation will be in next few years, so we can never say that there is zero chance of cricket between both countries. May be we have less hard line governments on both sides in coming elections.

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Media job is to create hype and its not limited to India and Pakistan, see the role of global media in pandemic they only spread news that has spice in it. In any of the ICC event, Pakistan India match is the most electrified match perhaps more important than then the final. ICC must step in and made it compulsory for both countries to play bilateral series.

Forget about any bilateral series between these two nations for the next 20 years at least. The political spectrum in both India and Pakistan has moved very hard to the right and extreme voices are having complete dominance as of now. As per the scheduling, India was supposed to visit Pakistan one and half decades back, but they pulled out citing border clashes and terror attacks. The ICC has adopted a neutral stance on this matter, saying that the two countries should resolve the differences amicably.

Yeah, i dont see both countires playing series aganist each other either in india or pakistan. We can only see their matches in ICC worldcups or asia cup etc. I know the political situation in both the countries is not good but how about ICC arranging a series between them on a neutral ground like UAE ? In this way both countries will be able to play, people will get entertian and ICC can generate a lot of money.

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Quote from: Theones on February 14, 2022, 10:54:48 AM

Media job is to create hype and its not limited to India and Pakistan, see the role of global media in pandemic they only spread news that has spice in it. In any of the ICC event, Pakistan India match is the most electrified match perhaps more important than then the final. ICC must step in and made it compulsory for both countries to play bilateral series.

Forget about any bilateral series between these two nations for the next 20 years at least. The political spectrum in both India and Pakistan has moved very hard to the right and extreme voices are having complete dominance as of now. As per the scheduling, India was supposed to visit Pakistan one and half decades back, but they pulled out citing border clashes and terror attacks. The ICC has adopted a neutral stance on this matter, saying that the two countries should resolve the differences amicably.

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