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Quote from: savetheFORUM on March 26, 2022, 01:21:50 PM

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so now it's time for having some good and positive changes for new generation players to play fair and good game for the sack of this sport right now we have too many Soccer Leagues and then USA is also having world's best leagues for sports we have very few controversies mean they are preparing players for good and fair games and giving them good money which is enough for their desires so same happening here in IPL but if still anyone does wrong then surely he deserves to pay for his karma.

Right now it's still hard task, but we can expect some good and positive mind-set from BCCI as well because they are main authority behind this all, and they can change things in good way for their own sack and respect of this game and their league.

I am not sure what BCCI can do in a situation even if some of the players try to involve in sports betting and other activities. Even in the NBA there are players like Michael Jordan, Charles Barkley who are known to be notorious in sports gambling and there were evidences that came out later that those players used to gamble in the matches they used to participate. You cannot blame the NBA for that, you need to blame the individual doing that rather than the entire league.

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Quote from: Minecache on March 26, 2022, 12:46:41 PM

IPL is a very big league and easily the biggest in cricket. So, there is always going to be a lot of money and with this amount of money, there will always be a lot of controversies. And IPL has always been at the center of controversies.

There has been a lot of controversies over the years around IPL. but that obviously did not do anything In terms of decreasing the popularity of the IPL. if anyone, and obviously it does not matter if he is a player or not, leaks any kind of information outside, should be held accountable for his deeds.

Money is money and right now IPL is world's paying league in all sports so with this we can expect too many things around this without any problem like controversies and good and bad peoples still can approach here for their own sack, so now it's time for having some good and positive changes for new generation players to play fair and good game for the sack of this sport right now we have too many Soccer Leagues and then USA is also having world's best leagues for sports we have very few controversies mean they are preparing players for good and fair games and giving them good money which is enough for their desires so same happening here in IPL but if still anyone does wrong then surely he deserves to pay for his karma.

Right now it's still hard task, but we can expect some good and positive mind-set from BCCI as well because they are main authority behind this all, and they can change things in good way for their own sack and respect of this game and their league.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on March 25, 2022, 06:59:45 PM

Quote from: blatchcorn on March 25, 2022, 05:06:15 AM

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In franchise every play for himself just to make sure his stats are good so he gets handsome bid in the auction. There is limited concept of team in T20 league. There is so much money in IPL, the only way to recover that money is through fixing and other such means. There is no proof of this so no one can voice against it.
ICC T20 events are helpless in front of T20 leagues since ICC don't have that much money.

What a theory, do you really think that IPL is recovering the money through fixing and other things, do you have any idea about the broadcasting money they earn and the advertising revenue and the brand value is valued at $6.2 billion and you think that they need to manipulate to recover the money Cheesy

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Any player sending any internal information outside the dressing room is an offence in any sport and it should be the same for the IPL or any franchise Cricket.

IPL is a very big league and easily the biggest in cricket. So, there is always going to be a lot of money and with this amount of money, there will always be a lot of controversies. And IPL has always been at the center of controversies.

There has been a lot of controversies over the years around IPL. but that obviously did not do anything In terms of decreasing the popularity of the IPL. if anyone, and obviously it does not matter if he is a player or not, leaks any kind of information outside, should be held accountable for his deeds.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 25, 2022, 08:14:47 PM

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The BCCI is earning billions of USD as a result of media rights, sponsorship and gate collection. But that is not the case with some of the franchises. Many of them are still in loss. Anyway, the owners of these franchises are politicians, businessmen or film actors with no direct connection to cricket. They care only about money and therefore it is not very surprising to hear about occurrences of match fixing within the IPL. On top of that, illegal betting is a big curse in cricket and the decision to hold some of the IPL editions in UAE only added fuel to the fire.

lets have a clarity on this aspect, BCCI sells the media rights but the revenue is shared between the teams and it depends upon how many on air time they get which means the more games you play more the revenue and the revenue from media alone per season is 3,269 crore as per the reports.

Then there is brand sponsorship per team, then there is title sponsorship revenue and that is also shared between the teams and if you look at all the franchise teams everyone is in huge profits simply because of the high broadcasting revenue they are getting. So the idea of team owners participating in fixing is just ridiculous when they are earning the profit.

But the thing is, a little more money cannot hurt anyone, right? And that seems to be the motto for a lot of people in this world.

Even though it's a lot of money it's still not enough for a lot of people. Any fixing is absolutely wrong, especially it is most unexpected in a league where the money is so much, but the truth is more money attracts more problems..

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 21, 2022, 09:05:36 PM

This need to change, right? What is the point in having 3 test matches (15 days) in every series, when far fewer days are allotted to T20 and ODI cricket? I am OK with one test match per series. The remainder of the time should be given to limited overs cricket, as it is far more popular now when compared to the longer format. If the ICC want to keep test format alive, then the solution is not to have more matches. The real solution is to make test cricket more interesting, by reducing the number of lop-sided matches.

ICC is doing his best to promote T20I by halting entire cricket during that tournament. What else you want ? ICC has only 10 months to complete the entire year of cricket. Test is important and founding block of cricket, it has its own benefits and its necessary for provision of good players for T20.

The rush is unnecessary - there can be an alternative rather than bring some boring sport to audience. These years are years of uncertainty - Nothing seems exciting - there are always dark cloud of confusion looming which make things so uncertain. Hope we get to the normal once again very soon!

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 25, 2022, 08:14:47 PM

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The BCCI is earning billions of USD as a result of media rights, sponsorship and gate collection. But that is not the case with some of the franchises. Many of them are still in loss. Anyway, the owners of these franchises are politicians, businessmen or film actors with no direct connection to cricket. They care only about money and therefore it is not very surprising to hear about occurrences of match fixing within the IPL. On top of that, illegal betting is a big curse in cricket and the decision to hold some of the IPL editions in UAE only added fuel to the fire.

lets have a clarity on this aspect, BCCI sells the media rights but the revenue is shared between the teams and it depends upon how many on air time they get which means the more games you play more the revenue and the revenue from media alone per season is 3,269 crore as per the reports.

Then there is brand sponsorship per team, then there is title sponsorship revenue and that is also shared between the teams and if you look at all the franchise teams everyone is in huge profits simply because of the high broadcasting revenue they are getting. So the idea of team owners participating in fixing is just ridiculous when they are earning the profit.

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Quote from: Mr.Scott on March 26, 2022, 01:22:06 AM

An exciting news to share:
For the first time since 2016, Australia will be touring Sri Lanka for an all-format series. During June-July this year, two Tests, five one-day internationals and three Twenty-20 matches will be played. The test matches are expected to be played in Galle and Colombo, while the limited overs matches will be played in Kandy and Colombo. June will be a difficult month for Aussies, especially with the hot weather. All of these games will be important to the team.

This is indeed a good new for Sri Lanka cricket and cricket fans in Sri Lanka. This shows that Australians have given up the policy of touring countries of there own choice. Right now they are touring Pakistan after 24 years and now going to SL after after 6 years.
Last time Australia was whitewashed by SL in test, can they do that again.

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An exciting news to share:
For the first time since 2016, Australia will be touring Sri Lanka for an all-format series. During June-July this year, two Tests, five one-day internationals and three Twenty-20 matches will be played. The test matches are expected to be played in Galle and Colombo, while the limited overs matches will be played in Kandy and Colombo. June will be a difficult month for Aussies, especially with the hot weather. All of these games will be important to the team.

Men's T20Is:
   June 7: First T20, Colombo
   June 8: Second T20, Colombo
   June 11: Third T20, Colombo
Men's ODIs:
   June 14: First ODI, Kandy
   June 16: Second ODI, Kandy
   June 19: Third ODI, Colombo
   June 21: Fourth ODI, Colombo
   June 24: Fifth ODI, Colombo
Tests:
   June 29-3: First Test, Galle
   July 8-12: Second Test, Galle

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Quote from: Emitdama on March 25, 2022, 03:25:50 PM

Mate, you are going into wrong way right now it's very profitable business without any match fixing as well because now franchise teams have too many options for better profit with having some good performance as well which is possible without fixing any match or involving gambling.

Secondly if we have any proof then still no one can do anything because it's all manipulated under supervision of ICC, so we don't need to in more details but just want to clear few things with involvement of television rights and advertising they can take some good profit as we watch recently in PSL even it's small league in comparison for IPL, but all franchise have some good profit from PCB which is very good just because of this now many countries trying to have their own Leagues but still and without any doubt IPL could be leaders in fan base and profit no one can challenge their spot for this.

Can you please come up with stats that how much they invest and how much they earn. Even there is betting on which player will get most money that why we see player like Ishan Kishan getting 15.25 crore, he hardly is player of 5 million INR.
Just do some maths and you will come to know nay be a single fix match can give money more the media rights. Just my few satoshis. Enjoy the IPL.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on March 25, 2022, 06:59:45 PM

What a theory, do you really think that IPL is recovering the money through fixing and other things, do you have any idea about the broadcasting money they earn and the advertising revenue and the brand value is valued at $6.2 billion and you think that they need to manipulate to recover the money Cheesy

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Any player sending any internal information outside the dressing room is an offence in any sport and it should be the same for the IPL or any franchise Cricket.

The BCCI is earning billions of USD as a result of media rights, sponsorship and gate collection. But that is not the case with some of the franchises. Many of them are still in loss. Anyway, the owners of these franchises are politicians, businessmen or film actors with no direct connection to cricket. They care only about money and therefore it is not very surprising to hear about occurrences of match fixing within the IPL. On top of that, illegal betting is a big curse in cricket and the decision to hold some of the IPL editions in UAE only added fuel to the fire.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on March 25, 2022, 05:06:15 AM

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In franchise every play for himself just to make sure his stats are good so he gets handsome bid in the auction. There is limited concept of team in T20 league. There is so much money in IPL, the only way to recover that money is through fixing and other such means. There is no proof of this so no one can voice against it.
ICC T20 events are helpless in front of T20 leagues since ICC don't have that much money.

What a theory, do you really think that IPL is recovering the money through fixing and other things, do you have any idea about the broadcasting money they earn and the advertising revenue and the brand value is valued at $6.2 billion and you think that they need to manipulate to recover the money Cheesy

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Any player sending any internal information outside the dressing room is an offence in any sport and it should be the same for the IPL or any franchise Cricket.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on March 25, 2022, 05:06:15 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on March 24, 2022, 09:51:49 PM

I am not much interested in the IPL. I have always preferred international cricket over franchise cricket. And IPL may have the star power, but at the same time, it is full of negative influences. There have been multiple instances of match fixing within the IPL. While players like Sreesanth and Shakib al Hassan were punished for their roles, the franchise owners were let off. As far as T20 cricket is concerned, I still prefer ICC tournaments such as the T20 World Cup and Asia Cup over IPL and other franchise leagues.

In franchise every play for himself just to make sure his stats are good so he gets handsome bid in the auction. There is limited concept of team in T20 league. There is so much money in IPL, the only way to recover that money is through fixing and other such means. There is no proof of this so no one can voice against it.
ICC T20 events are helpless in front of T20 leagues since ICC don't have that much money.

Mate, you are going into wrong way right now it's very profitable business without any match fixing as well because now franchise teams have too many options for better profit with having some good performance as well which is possible without fixing any match or involving gambling.

Secondly if we have any proof then still no one can do anything because it's all manipulated under supervision of ICC, so we don't need to in more details but just want to clear few things with involvement of television rights and advertising they can take some good profit as we watch recently in PSL even it's small league in comparison for IPL, but all franchise have some good profit from PCB which is very good just because of this now many countries trying to have their own Leagues but still and without any doubt IPL could be leaders in fan base and profit no one can challenge their spot for this.

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Quote from: lixer on March 24, 2022, 01:23:21 PM

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If this is a case of match-fixing or something even close to that, I think it was a really serious offense and the player got away with it quite easily.

the official news is still not out yet. I assume that it can be a cover-up job by the England cricket board to save the player from getting banned for a long time. I don't think something like this has happened ever before. if a player got punished we all knew why he was punished. but this is the first case in my opinion where it is kept a secret.

In my opinion it's not case of match-fixing or spot-fixing because if we have things like this then surely ECB is also doing crime and not putting all information on media and just giving a minor reminder which is double standard we have few cases in other countries and mostly players faced some bans and other punishments as well even it's all rumours because in my case it's nothing related to betting or gambling.

Most chances it's related to drugs or behaviour like this because we also have things like this regularly in these countries and from these players like few days back Sri Lankan players were also have same case now they are back in team after reminder about this all.

^ Yes, actually you are right. If this was a case of match-fixing or anything like that I think the punishment would have been more severe. Probably something about bad behavior which that cricket board does not want to reveal yet. But, as long as it is delayed, the more made-up stories are going to be heard.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 24, 2022, 09:51:49 PM

I am not much interested in the IPL. I have always preferred international cricket over franchise cricket. And IPL may have the star power, but at the same time, it is full of negative influences. There have been multiple instances of match fixing within the IPL. While players like Sreesanth and Shakib al Hassan were punished for their roles, the franchise owners were let off. As far as T20 cricket is concerned, I still prefer ICC tournaments such as the T20 World Cup and Asia Cup over IPL and other franchise leagues.

In franchise every play for himself just to make sure his stats are good so he gets handsome bid in the auction. There is limited concept of team in T20 league. There is so much money in IPL, the only way to recover that money is through fixing and other such means. There is no proof of this so no one can voice against it.
ICC T20 events are helpless in front of T20 leagues since ICC don't have that much money.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on March 24, 2022, 12:20:56 AM

Thanks for sharing this, never knew that boards are forced to include test matches in every tour. I think since there is lots of t20 going on in the form of T20 leagues and t20 WC ( which at times is happening every year or two years), ICC has issued such regulations on test.
But for your delight IPL is starting and you can enjoy entertaining cricket instead of boring test.

I am not much interested in the IPL. I have always preferred international cricket over franchise cricket. And IPL may have the star power, but at the same time, it is full of negative influences. There have been multiple instances of match fixing within the IPL. While players like Sreesanth and Shakib al Hassan were punished for their roles, the franchise owners were let off. As far as T20 cricket is concerned, I still prefer ICC tournaments such as the T20 World Cup and Asia Cup over IPL and other franchise leagues.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on March 22, 2022, 11:16:02 AM

Quote from: Minecache on March 22, 2022, 10:59:27 AM

Actually having three test matches in every series might not be the best idea. If it is actually done, I mean three test matches in every series then I think cricket might lose a lot more popularity altogether.

I actually think test cricket is holding cricket back as a whole. Don't get me wrong. I love this cricket and I am sure that the players also enjoy playing test cricket.

But, yes it is not enjoyable for the fans. seems fans are the main source of revenue, it's better to give the other formats of cricket a lot more time than test cricket right now.

I think every board is independent in deciding how many test matches will be played in there home tour. For instance, in NZ there are always 2 test matches in every series. They don't like playing much test. If board is getting benefit only then they are playing more test cricket. I do agree that there cricket fans like T20 format only.

T20 is much liked and admired by the people. It is quick, happening and interesting at the same time. On the other hand. People do not have time to watch test cricket there is already so much distraction that people don't focus on one thing for longer period of time. That instead of watching the whole test match they watch highlight and check score.

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Quote from: CryptoBuds on March 24, 2022, 12:30:40 PM

If this is a case of match-fixing or something even close to that, I think it was a really serious offense and the player got away with it quite easily.

the official news is still not out yet. I assume that it can be a cover-up job by the England cricket board to save the player from getting banned for a long time. I don't think something like this has happened ever before. if a player got punished we all knew why he was punished. but this is the first case in my opinion where it is kept a secret.

In my opinion it's not case of match-fixing or spot-fixing because if we have things like this then surely ECB is also doing crime and not putting all information on media and just giving a minor reminder which is double standard we have few cases in other countries and mostly players faced some bans and other punishments as well even it's all rumours because in my case it's nothing related to betting or gambling.

Most chances it's related to drugs or behaviour like this because we also have things like this regularly in these countries and from these players like few days back Sri Lankan players were also have same case now they are back in team after reminder about this all.

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Quote from: JSRAW on March 23, 2022, 11:39:52 AM

Is there any chance that this all drama happening due to White powder aka Cocaine? As far as i know fair amount of English players, even domestic players are very fond of white powder and never shy away to use some here n there whenever there is a opportunity.

If it was related to match fixing or similar scandal to Shakib (not informing authorities on right time regarding bookies) then i don't think ECB would have shy away to highlight the charges.

Quote from: CryptoBuds on March 24, 2022, 12:30:40 PM

^ If this is a case of match-fixing or something even close to that, I think it was a really serious offense and the player got away with it quite easily.

the official news is still not out yet. I assume that it can be a cover-up job by the England cricket board to save the player from getting banned for a long time. I don't think something like this has happened ever before. if a player got punished we all knew why he was punished. but this is the first case in my opinion where it is kept a secret.

Yes, the problem is that the official statement is not out yet and until the official statement comes out all we can do is assume. I know that he has done some shady things in the past. and it will not be surprising for me if this is actually happening for cocaine usage.

But in my opinion, it is obviously something which the England cricket board does not want to review for everyone and that's why it has been kept a secret by almost everyone.

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Quote from: barbara44 on March 23, 2022, 01:22:24 PM

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English cricketer Jason Roy fined £2,500, given suspended by the ECB for uncovered misconduct. What's wrong did he commit actually? That has been uncovered up to this point. I've never seen that the players got punished yet the offense not uncovered. It's absolutely amateurish of any cricket association except if they're attempting to make a specific statement.

Jason Roy is surely one of the best player in short format, and he was very good in CWC in England where he destroys many bowlers with his skills, but sadly he has never been an ideal person with many controversies on and off field issues related with him in last many years.

Now, this new case is surely having something serious most chances it's not related to spot fixing or leaking information's to bookies if we have any case like this then surely ECB will give all updates about this to media so most chances it's related to some internal issue like drugs or his behavior just because of this ECB just announces some fine and nothing else. Recently we have things like these in Sri Lankan tour of England but SLCB give all details about this and then give punishment to their players but here just this statement is just wired.

^ If this is a case of match-fixing or something even close to that, I think it was a really serious offense and the player got away with it quite easily.

the official news is still not out yet. I assume that it can be a cover-up job by the England cricket board to save the player from getting banned for a long time. I don't think something like this has happened ever before. if a player got punished we all knew why he was punished. but this is the first case in my opinion where it is kept a secret.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 22, 2022, 09:50:36 PM

As per the ICC rules for the World Test Championship (WTC), each full member need to conduct at least one test series against each of the remaining 9 full members, and there should be a minimum of 2 test matches in each of these series. So the national boards are forced to include test matches in their itinerary, even if they have little interest in doing so. And this is one of the reasons why I always say that the WTC has made cricket more boring. Ideally national teams should only play one test series (2-3 matches) per year.

Thanks for sharing this, never knew that boards are forced to include test matches in every tour. I think since there is lots of t20 going on in the form of T20 leagues and t20 WC ( which at times is happening every year or two years), ICC has issued such regulations on test.
But for your delight IPL is starting and you can enjoy entertaining cricket instead of boring test.

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