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Quote from: ibuddy122505 on February 14, 2022, 10:34:42 AM

It's my daily routine to observe how the rivalry goes on between both franchisees league because both are constantly criticizing which one is the best. One does not need to do much, just go to social media, for example Facebook, and you can see how both parties share dirty speech.
This is too much, both countries' media are always busy trying to put the wind on fire the relationship and their residents just make it more juicy.

Media job is to create hype and its not limited to India and Pakistan, see the role of global media in pandemic they only spread news that has spice in it. In any of the ICC event, Pakistan India match is the most electrified match perhaps more important than then the final. ICC must step in and made it compulsory for both countries to play bilateral series.

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Quote from: galambo on February 14, 2022, 09:43:54 AM

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There are always some rivalry going on between them. I think that India and Pakistan are never going to be friends, to be honest. If they could, things would have been different. And the media of both countries seems to put the wind on fire. I genuinely believe people are not bad, but everyone judges a country by looking at only a selected few people.

Its 70 years since both countries got independence from UK. Relations between both are up and down. In 2003, 04,05 and 07 there were test series between these two countries. Last time they played test match against each other was in Nov 2007 since then its dry period and they play each other in ICC events only.

It's my daily routine to observe how the rivalry goes on between both franchisees league because both are constantly criticizing which one is the best. One does not need to do much, just go to social media, for example Facebook, and you can see how both parties share dirty speech.
This is too much, both countries' media are always busy trying to put the wind on fire the relationship and their residents just make it more juicy.

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on February 14, 2022, 09:22:37 AM

There are always some rivalry going on between them. I think that India and Pakistan are never going to be friends, to be honest. If they could, things would have been different. And the media of both countries seems to put the wind on fire. I genuinely believe people are not bad, but everyone judges a country by looking at only a selected few people.

Its 70 years since both countries got independence from UK. Relations between both are up and down. In 2003, 04,05 and 07 there were test series between these two countries. Last time they played test match against each other was in Nov 2007 since then its dry period and they play each other in ICC events only.

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Quote from: galambo on February 14, 2022, 02:55:06 AM

Quote from: romero121 on February 14, 2022, 02:01:36 AM

In terms of performance Pakistan players outclassed India in the World Cup T20. PSL have been giving world class cricket league, but the success have come far from the beginning. The salaries of IPL team players were quite high and if Pakistan players were allowed to apply for IPL, surely more players will enroll. Also Pakistan players will have good price in auction.

There is zero involvement of Pakistan in IPL, Aleem Dar was the last Pakistani seen in IPL as an umpire he is also no more there. India doesn't want to give any financial benefit to Pakistan that's the primary reason why Pakistani players are not allowed to participate in that league. If Shaheen was auctioned in IPL I am sure his price will be over 10 crore.

There are always some rivalry going on between them. I think that India and Pakistan are never going to be friends, to be honest. If they could, things would have been different. And the media of both countries seems to put the wind on fire. I genuinely believe people are not bad, but everyone judges a country by looking at only a selected few people.

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Quote from: romero121 on February 14, 2022, 02:01:36 AM

In terms of performance Pakistan players outclassed India in the World Cup T20. PSL have been giving world class cricket league, but the success have come far from the beginning. The salaries of IPL team players were quite high and if Pakistan players were allowed to apply for IPL, surely more players will enroll. Also Pakistan players will have good price in auction.

There is zero involvement of Pakistan in IPL, Aleem Dar was the last Pakistani seen in IPL as an umpire he is also no more there. India doesn't want to give any financial benefit to Pakistan that's the primary reason why Pakistani players are not allowed to participate in that league. If Shaheen was auctioned in IPL I am sure his price will be over 10 crore.

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Quote from: og kush420 on February 13, 2022, 10:34:16 PM

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I really like how Pakistan is trying to make the problem of not being able to play in the IPL as a benefit for them. And actually, this might be a blessing in disguise as they are trying to improve their own T20 League and also are being able to concentrate on it much more. I really think they have done a good job with PSL but there is always room for improvement.

There is no benefit of IPL other then getting huge money. You can easily compare performance of Pakistan with India in last T20 WC where Pakistan completely outclassed India. PSL is as good as other leagues in terms of performance but its outclassed by IPL in terms of salaries given to players.

In terms of performance Pakistan players outclassed India in the World Cup T20. PSL have been giving world class cricket league, but the success have come far from the beginning. The salaries of IPL team players were quite high and if Pakistan players were allowed to apply for IPL, surely more players will enroll. Also Pakistan players will have good price in auction.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on February 13, 2022, 02:46:01 PM

I really like how Pakistan is trying to make the problem of not being able to play in the IPL as a benefit for them. And actually, this might be a blessing in disguise as they are trying to improve their own T20 League and also are being able to concentrate on it much more. I really think they have done a good job with PSL but there is always room for improvement.

There is no benefit of IPL other then getting huge money. You can easily compare performance of Pakistan with India in last T20 WC where Pakistan completely outclassed India. PSL is as good as other leagues in terms of performance but its outclassed by IPL in terms of salaries given to players.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on February 12, 2022, 09:34:32 AM

I really don't even think that India thinks about this thing as a problem because India is not suffering from this by any means. This is actually rather problematic for Pakistan because through IPL a lot of Pakistani players also could have proved themselves but now they don't have that chance and also the financial loss that Pakistan is having to bear because of this decision. I think Pakistan should improve the quality of their own T20 league and they can have a lot of profit from that.

In Pakistan no one is now thinking about IPL because now their own brand is doing good and in coming years surely future is bright for them with some good marketing is also giving them good response and country economy is also having some good impact on this all about quality it's already having very good impact as many legendry cricketers are fan of this PSL because they are feeling currently worlds top ranked twenty/20 players involved in this league is mean quality of this league.
Now, they are going to complete first phase of seven years which is good with now having new era is coming for them under professional leadership which is going to change many things in near future for better quality and fairness of this league as in start first challenge was bringing this league at home now second challenge is good marketing which will spread this in near future for better fan base around the world.

I really like how Pakistan is trying to make the problem of not being able to play in the IPL as a benefit for them. And actually, this might be a blessing in disguise as they are trying to improve their own T20 League and also are being able to concentrate on it much more. I really think they have done a good job with PSL but there is always room for improvement.

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Quote from: Tony116 on February 13, 2022, 02:12:58 PM

If I am not wrong I think BCCI always seems to prefer spending on Indian players and even on the players who are not in the best of form right now. And I honestly don't see Hardik Pandya as the player who costs 15 crores for any team.

But as you said it is a win-win situation for BCCI and the Indian players and that is the only reason which makes sense.

The core of IPL auction is to give top bid to Indian players. Ishan Kishan is talented player but I dont know why buying him for 15.25 crore when he himself saying I am available for 2 crore. Australian players price was cut significantly since they will miss start of IPL because of there tour to Pakistan.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on February 13, 2022, 03:57:51 AM

Quote from: olib123 on February 13, 2022, 02:37:30 AM

Yes pakistan do have a very good t20 squad and their inclusion in IPL would surely make it better . But I have to say even without them IPL is getting better and better over the years. With 2 new teams coming this year will make IPL even more interesting and competitiveness will increase. I am really excited for this season of IPL.

Two new teams will make this league even bigger. Hardik Pandya who is recently dropped recently from Indian team due to his performance will lead Gujrat while Lucknow will lead by KL Rahul. Gujrat Titans bought Pandya for 15 crore. Money is raining specially on Indian players in IPL. Its a win win situation for everyone for bcci, for Indian players and for remaining of cricket world.

https://m.cricbuzz.com/cricket-series/ipl-2022/auction/players/9647

If I am not wrong I think BCCI always seems to prefer spending on Indian players and even on the players who are not in the best of form right now. And I honestly don't see Hardik Pandya as the player who costs 15 crores for any team.

But as you said it is a win-win situation for BCCI and the Indian players and that is the only reason which makes sense.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on February 12, 2022, 11:28:40 PM

Quote from: laurenB7742 on February 12, 2022, 09:34:32 AM

I really don't even think that India thinks about this thing as a problem because India is not suffering from this by any means. This is actually rather problematic for Pakistan because through IPL a lot of Pakistani players also could have proved themselves but now they don't have that chance and also the financial loss that Pakistan is having to bear because of this decision. I think Pakistan should improve the quality of their own T20 league and they can have a lot of profit from that.

It's purely a political decision of not including Pakistani players in IPL since present govt of boh counties don't have good ties. PSL current edition is 7th over and so far it's a good journey for Pakistan. Initially PSL was held in dubai but now all matches are played in Pakistan and players from all countries are participating in it.
Apart from that Pakistani players are also participating in all leagues world wide which give them a good exposure and chance to earn money.

In my opinion Pakistani players not being able to play in the IPL should not be much of a problem to them anymore because everyone knows that Pakistan has some world-class cricketers and almost every other T-20 league has not done anything like the IPL.

So, they can play in any T-20 links except IPL. So, in my opinion, it is not problematic for Pakistan at all anymore and they have a lot of alternative ways to earn that money that they might have with the IPL.

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Quote from: olib123 on February 13, 2022, 02:37:30 AM

Yes pakistan do have a very good t20 squad and their inclusion in IPL would surely make it better . But I have to say even without them IPL is getting better and better over the years. With 2 new teams coming this year will make IPL even more interesting and competitiveness will increase. I am really excited for this season of IPL.

Two new teams will make this league even bigger. Hardik Pandya who is recently dropped recently from Indian team due to his performance will lead Gujrat while Lucknow will lead by KL Rahul. Gujrat Titans bought Pandya for 15 crore. Money is raining specially on Indian players in IPL. Its a win win situation for everyone for bcci, for Indian players and for remaining of cricket world.

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Quote from: Theones on February 13, 2022, 12:58:15 AM

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This is something beyond the slogan of sports, namely upholding sportsmanship. Often times the Pakistan vs India match is always seasoned with politics and religion, many victims of civil society as a result of one party being dissatisfied with the result of the match and the community being the victim on accusations of religious reasons.
I hope that in the future both parties can uphold sportsmanship, losing or winning is an art in a game.

Things are getting worse between these two countries for 70 years and there are not many bright chances of better relations between these two countries. IPL is not affected because of Pakistani players exclusion rather its progressing heavily. Despite the fact that Pakistan has good T20 squad.

Yes pakistan do have a very good t20 squad and their inclusion in IPL would surely make it better . But I have to say even without them IPL is getting better and better over the years. With 2 new teams coming this year will make IPL even more interesting and competitiveness will increase. I am really excited for this season of IPL.

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This is something beyond the slogan of sports, namely upholding sportsmanship. Often times the Pakistan vs India match is always seasoned with politics and religion, many victims of civil society as a result of one party being dissatisfied with the result of the match and the community being the victim on accusations of religious reasons.
I hope that in the future both parties can uphold sportsmanship, losing or winning is an art in a game.

Things are getting worse between these two countries for 70 years and there are not many bright chances of better relations between these two countries. IPL is not affected because of Pakistani players exclusion rather its progressing heavily. Despite the fact that Pakistan has good T20 squad.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on February 12, 2022, 09:34:32 AM

I really don't even think that India thinks about this thing as a problem because India is not suffering from this by any means. This is actually rather problematic for Pakistan because through IPL a lot of Pakistani players also could have proved themselves but now they don't have that chance and also the financial loss that Pakistan is having to bear because of this decision. I think Pakistan should improve the quality of their own T20 league and they can have a lot of profit from that.

It's purely a political decision of not including Pakistani players in IPL since present govt of boh counties don't have good ties. PSL current edition is 7th over and so far it's a good journey for Pakistan. Initially PSL was held in dubai but now all matches are played in Pakistan and players from all countries are participating in it.
Apart from that Pakistani players are also participating in all leagues world wide which give them a good exposure and chance to earn money.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on February 12, 2022, 09:34:32 AM

I really don't even think that India thinks about this thing as a problem because India is not suffering from this by any means. This is actually rather problematic for Pakistan because through IPL a lot of Pakistani players also could have proved themselves but now they don't have that chance and also the financial loss that Pakistan is having to bear because of this decision. I think Pakistan should improve the quality of their own T20 league and they can have a lot of profit from that.

In Pakistan no one is now thinking about IPL because now their own brand is doing good and in coming years surely future is bright for them with some good marketing is also giving them good response and country economy is also having some good impact on this all about quality it's already having very good impact as many legendry cricketers are fan of this PSL because they are feeling currently worlds top ranked twenty/20 players involved in this league is mean quality of this league.

Now, they are going to complete first phase of seven years which is good with now having new era is coming for them under professional leadership which is going to change many things in near future for better quality and fairness of this league as in start first challenge was bringing this league at home now second challenge is good marketing which will spread this in near future for better fan base around the world.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on February 11, 2022, 10:57:56 PM

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Well.. I am not against that strategy. But Australia is a small country and the total population is around 1/10th of that of some of the Indian or Pakistani provinces. In order for the BBL to become financially viable, they need to attract viewership from South Asia. Indian players are banned from taking part in the BBL, so that option is tricky. But they gained a lot of viewership in Pakistan, because a number of Pak players are representing various BBL sides. A compromise can be reached, and I guess 3 is a more suitable limit instead of the current two.

Indian players are banned to take part in any league not only in BBL, this is only BCCI arrogance nothing else. Those players who can't play IPL must be allowed to go out and play other leagues to earn money.
Unmukt Chand became first indian to take part in BBL. He signs for the Melbourne Renegades. May be we see more Indian players joining BBL.
https://www.cricket.com.au/news/melbourne-renegades-bbl-big-bash-league-first-ever-indian-player-unmukt-chand/2021-11-04

But are the cricketers willing to take that chance of being a bad person in BCCI's eye?

That should be the bigger question because if all the players say that they want to play in other cricket leagues then obviously BCCI will have to permit that and then they are against will be broken. BCCI is just too attached to money and they want to get all the money that they can and that is why they really don't think about the player's future.

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Yeah, but if they want some better exposure of BBL then surely they need to do some better things like bring 4 players from overseas is also not bad at all because this can bring few players from South Africa, England and few other countries as well which help them in viewership as surely currently BBL is second most watched league in Pakistan with PSL having first spot and IPL is banned.

But, Australia is developed country and their financial infrastructure is also very strong which is helping them for having good money from this league but in next few years we can watch many things going to change with leagues war is now on and all boards looking for better finances with IPL surely going to stay at top and for second and third spot fight is going to be very tough.

IPL is banned for Pakistani players and Pakistan has banned IPL airing in the country. It doesn't matter to India since there financial loses with Pakistan ban is nothing. But definitely its PCB that is suffering financial losses due to IPL ban imposed by BCCI.
T20 Leagues mania has taken over all boards. No league is near future can replace IPL from number one spot. There is only battle for second and third spot.

I really don't even think that India thinks about this thing as a problem because India is not suffering from this by any means. This is actually rather problematic for Pakistan because through IPL a lot of Pakistani players also could have proved themselves but now they don't have that chance and also the financial loss that Pakistan is having to bear because of this decision. I think Pakistan should improve the quality of their own T20 league and they can have a lot of profit from that.

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Quote from: jaberwock on February 12, 2022, 04:07:04 AM

Yeah, but if they want some better exposure of BBL then surely they need to do some better things like bring 4 players from overseas is also not bad at all because this can bring few players from South Africa, England and few other countries as well which help them in viewership as surely currently BBL is second most watched league in Pakistan with PSL having first spot and IPL is banned.

But, Australia is developed country and their financial infrastructure is also very strong which is helping them for having good money from this league but in next few years we can watch many things going to change with leagues war is now on and all boards looking for better finances with IPL surely going to stay at top and for second and third spot fight is going to be very tough.

IPL is banned for Pakistani players and Pakistan has banned IPL airing in the country. It doesn't matter to India since there financial loses with Pakistan ban is nothing. But definitely its PCB that is suffering financial losses due to IPL ban imposed by BCCI.
T20 Leagues mania has taken over all boards. No league is near future can replace IPL from number one spot. There is only battle for second and third spot.

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But I think that BBL has made the restrictions about overseas players for only two because they want players from Australia to get more chances to prove themselves. If there are more overseas players, sometimes the local players' performance can be overshadowed by the well-known overseas players. So, it is a good decision in my opinion. But the salary cap is obviously low.

Well.. I am not against that strategy. But Australia is a small country and the total population is around 1/10th of that of some of the Indian or Pakistani provinces. In order for the BBL to become financially viable, they need to attract viewership from South Asia. Indian players are banned from taking part in the BBL, so that option is tricky. But they gained a lot of viewership in Pakistan, because a number of Pak players are representing various BBL sides. A compromise can be reached, and I guess 3 is a more suitable limit instead of the current two.

Yeah, but if they want some better exposure of BBL then surely they need to do some better things like bring 4 players from overseas is also not bad at all because this can bring few players from South Africa, England and few other countries as well which help them in viewership as surely currently BBL is second most watched league in Pakistan with PSL having first spot and IPL is banned.

But, Australia is developed country and their financial infrastructure is also very strong which is helping them for having good money from this league but in next few years we can watch many things going to change with leagues war is now on and all boards looking for better finances with IPL surely going to stay at top and for second and third spot fight is going to be very tough.

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