Sorry for the delay. I kept running into problems with video conversion and my wife wanted to take the day off for the family.
Anyways... Here's my story.
- On July 3 around 5PM Eastern time, I had deposited .2BTC to test out the site.
- I started by betting .0002BTC at 200x (the imposed limit that the admin had just created).
- I had your standard run of the luck. Winning 25 times over a ~6k sample.
- During this period of time, the admin changed the system from 3 decimal places to 2 decimal places meaning that my 200x of >99.494 was now >99.5. [There was no notice of this and had I not scrolled back up into the chat where the admin briefly mentioned this, I wouldn't have known at all]. The client side was still showing 3 decimal places everywhere except the actual results.
- The next set of auto-rolled 5k bets resulted in 0 wins. I deposited another .2BTC chalking this up to variance and produced 0 wins over another ~2k rolls. At this time I changed my bet to .00001btc because of the low funds and to handle variance better.
- The next 15,000 rolls at .00001btc resulted in 0 wins as well. I started to think something was off about this and started recording videos. First, I recorded a 8 minute video, betting 3 times per second resulting in 0 wins. I then created an 11 minute video (posted earlier in the thread) where I made a few 'bold' predictions that there would be exactly 0 wins in the next 5,000 rolls. I ended up running out of money before reaching 3,000 rolls.
- I made the claim here and asked for a refund. There was clearly something off and I approached the staff of the site. To my surprise the admins were sleeping -- an unprofessional and incompetent move after being told numerous times that their site was vulnerable and that it was most likely broken especially since they have a responsibility to protect investors' funds. The moderator responded with a very condescending and cocky tone and laughed at my claims.
- I then challenged the moderator and another user skeptical of my claims to bet 2BTC that I could prove to them that over the next 5,000 (putting the sum total of rolls at over 23,000 with zero wins) rolls at 200x (>99.494), I would end up with exactly 0 wins. They were hesitant to accept this bet even though I basically begged them to accept and offered to have any trustworthy escrow hold the funds and release it to them if any win was shown on the site (pretty simple and straightforward way of confirming the winner of the bet) and that I was basically betting even money that I would win exactly ZERO times over 5,000 rolls instead of the many permutations of wins with a standard deviation near 75 wins over this period. This is liken to betting someone at 1:1 that a roulette wheel will produce 20 black numbers in a row instead of any other result. They both declined.
- I then decided to show them anyways creating this video (
https://youtu.be/SbFX8BlH9XY) [in HD but cut-off at 8:30 for some reason] and
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lbozfm9h2ev775h/2015-07-03-2133-58.flv?dl=0 (non-hd viewable, but hd when downloaded) where I bet the same amount at 200x for 5,000 rolls with (you guess it!) zero wins.
- I then created a new account where I predicted that I would win within 200-600 rolls in which case I did. I logged back into my original account with a new client/server seed and then started to win/lose at a normal rate.
Important Notes:
- There is an infinitely small chance, but nonetheless a chance (somewhere around 1 in a million) that this was just extremely bad luck.
- The videos are not completely solid proof as many can make a claim to variance (see above point), but what's very important to note is my body language and pure confidence in the fact that I 100% predicted and believed that this actual result (~1 in 25,000 [guess]) would be the only result to occur. Further affirmation to this is my aggressive attempts to secure an even money bet on this (statistically speaking) anomaly happening. The time stamps in the video along with my presence in real time show that there were no breaks in between, editing, or magic of any kind used to re-produce these results.
- I had the same client and server seed from beginning of my play, during, and after the hotfix that the admin applied that changed the decimal places and the system. Only after the seeds were changed (different user and re-logon back to my original account) was play 'normalized'
- I did check a few of my bets (I was unable to check the earlier bets because the site does not allow access to them and I wasn't pausing the betting to check with 3 bets per second) and they did check out to be provably fair. By a few, I mean 10 out of 33,000 total.
Conclusion:
DON'T PLAY OR INVEST HERE. Simply put, it's not worth it and you can only blame yourself if you do not heed this advice and something inevitably goes wrong. The admins and programmers are stubborn, cocky, and careless. You can see this throughout many examples of interaction both on the site and through the forums here. Their site is still not fixed and the site's admins could care less about the proper execution of math. They also claim to have limited time and funds which leaves some concerns about their dedication to this site which can be abandoned or tampered with potentially leaving the users and investors s.o.l.
. I have to admit there are a lot of good people here who do a great service to their fellow posters by policing this place & calling out the bad guys. Massive respect & a big thank you - you guys know who you are.
