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Quote from: grendel25 on July 04, 2015, 08:00:32 PM

Quote from: subSTRATA on July 04, 2015, 11:02:00 AM

would definitely make for one hell of a story, but sorry to say, im not affiliated with these guys in any way.

subSTRATA, that's exactly what someone who is affiliated with these guys would say. LOL... Here go the conspiracy theories to run rampant on this. Anyone seeing this thread has to admit... they probably never heard of or even cared to consider playing there until now. Just look at their "leader board" it's barely populated and mainly populated with folks ID'd in this thread.

dun dun duuuuhhhhnnnnnn!

It's all good man, I don't really think you're nefarious in this... But I could see how folks might be suspicious.

you could write a book with all the crazy conspiracy speculation that's probably going on right now Roll Eyes

and unfortunately i cant say i didnt expect to see see some sort of conspiracy theory pop up. at the same time, there really isnt a sure way for me to prove that im not affiliated with them, all i can really do is say im not. it was a fun few days though.

as for now, im waiting for dogedigital's video to get uploaded and for him to give his statement, its taking so long though

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Quote from: subSTRATA on July 04, 2015, 11:02:00 AM

would definitely make for one hell of a story, but sorry to say, im not affiliated with these guys in any way.

subSTRATA, that's exactly what someone who is affiliated with these guys would say. LOL... Here go the conspiracy theories to run rampant on this. Anyone seeing this thread has to admit... they probably never heard of or even cared to consider playing there until now. Just look at their "leader board" it's barely populated and mainly populated with folks ID'd in this thread.

dun dun duuuuhhhhnnnnnn!

It's all good man, I don't really think you're nefarious in this... But I could see how folks might be suspicious.

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Quote from: laughingbear on July 04, 2015, 10:31:26 AM

Funniest part of all this, is that this place has more business and players now from all this attention than they would have got in a year.

I guess there is no such thing as bad press.

Yep, even I played there last night. And as I was playing I was thinking how I'd never even heard of this site until now. It seems like you only really have a chance to win at these sites if you are very lucky or if you know enough about math and programming in order to figure out an angle or flaw in the systems.

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This whole issue came about because too many different payout multipliers result in the same chance of winning when the chance is rounded to 2 decimal places.

That's an issue that all dice sites have to consider at some point, and of course they all come to the conclusion that you need to let the player pick the chance and tell them what the multiplier is going to be, and not the other way around.

Just-Dice has been running for 2 years and only today did someone ask about this for the first time. They want to turn 0.6 CLAM into 130k CLAM, and to do so they need a multiplier which results in a chance of winning of 0.00045%. We only allow chances to 4 decimal places, and so he has to go with 0.0004% or 0.0005% and was wondering why he couldn't have the chance he wanted.

It's weird that the issue should come up now for the first time, independently of the crypto-games.net issue. Apparently crypto-games.net has been running for a year without anyone thinking about this issue too.

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Quote from: laughingbear on July 04, 2015, 11:28:15 AM

Quote from: dooglus on July 04, 2015, 11:04:48 AM

Quote from: laughingbear on July 04, 2015, 10:59:29 AM

I thought this too. Would be a brilliant scam if true. Fake an exploit, hire a guy to expose you, rig your games.

Maybe, but then how do you explain his public display of stupidity and rudeness?

He would play that part, so that people would think that he is too stupid to find/fix the exploit. Rudeness to help people justify taking advantage of the exploit because he is a jerk.

Im not saying this is what happened, just that it would be dam near the prefect setup for a short term money grab.

I had thought about this too, which is why I was weary when I was going to test his exploit the other day. I was afraid he wouldn't cash me out, but it ended up going through instantly. Maybe it was just too early on and he wanted more deposits to come in before running.

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Quote from: laughingbear on July 04, 2015, 11:28:15 AM

Quote from: dooglus on July 04, 2015, 11:04:48 AM

Quote from: laughingbear on July 04, 2015, 10:59:29 AM

I thought this too. Would be a brilliant scam if true. Fake an exploit, hire a guy to expose you, rig your games.

Maybe, but then how do you explain his public display of stupidity and rudeness?

He would play that part, so that people would think that he is too stupid to find/fix the exploit. Rudeness to help people justify taking advantage of the exploit because he is a jerk.

Im not saying this is what happened, just that it would be dam near the prefect setup for a short term money grab.

+1 for your expertise in "conspiracy theories" Lips sealed

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Quote from: dooglus on July 04, 2015, 11:04:48 AM

Quote from: laughingbear on July 04, 2015, 10:59:29 AM

I thought this too. Would be a brilliant scam if true. Fake an exploit, hire a guy to expose you, rig your games.

Maybe, but then how do you explain his public display of stupidity and rudeness?

He would play that part, so that people would think that he is too stupid to find/fix the exploit. Rudeness to help people justify taking advantage of the exploit because he is a jerk.

Im not saying this is what happened, just that it would be dam near the prefect setup for a short term money grab.

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Quote from: laughingbear on July 04, 2015, 10:48:57 AM

Quote from: arallmuus on July 04, 2015, 10:44:32 AM

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Quote from: laughingbear on July 04, 2015, 10:37:55 AM

but they have made more coin in the last few days, than they would have in a year or more of normal operation.

You've done them a favor.

So you proposed that we should keep quiet about this and let it go? This is not how the things work around here though

Im saying your driving traffic and money to them, and thats true. At this point they have made their money, and can shut down and reopen under a different name. Id go about this differently.

Not entirely true on the bolded part, he may have a lot more traffic but after this all fuss end then the traffic will be gone as well. For the money part, it is too far to go with they are getting "money" from it. If you read a few pages back, there is someone that actually use this to his advantages and get some BTC from the site as well as Dogedigital lost a few there.

They wont run away or shut down though, their regular players practically dont care about this issue (check on their chatroom) and Joter seems to be enjoying himself with all this fuss. This people are ignorance as well as their dev and pretty much arrogant despite being pointed with all the flaw in their site .

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I just used the exploit to take 0.3 BTC

Quote from: fox19891989 on July 04, 2015, 10:53:50 AM

I have communicated with joter before, I thought he was arrogant

You should check on the chatroom and see how he address this issue there, he claimed it was fixed and those raging here about this "small issue" is stupid .

On another note, people seem to love fuss and "bad" news

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Quote from: laughingbear on July 04, 2015, 10:59:29 AM

I thought this too. Would be a brilliant scam if true. Fake an exploit, hire a guy to expose you, rig your games.

Maybe, but then how do you explain his public display of stupidity and rudeness?

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Quote from: laughingbear on July 04, 2015, 10:59:29 AM

Quote from: Wendigo on July 04, 2015, 10:57:37 AM

Quote from: laughingbear on July 04, 2015, 10:31:26 AM

Funniest part of all this, is that this place has more business and players now from all this attention than they would have got in a year.

I guess there is no such thing as bad press.

Maybe the bad press is deliberate and it's all a big stunt who knows really lol Cool

On a side note, people seem to like nitpicking on each other on forums I guess it's just humans are the cruelest of animals. Company loves misery lol.

I thought this too. Would be a brilliant scam if true. Fake an exploit, hire a guy to expose you, rig your games.

would definitely make for one hell of a story, but sorry to say, im not affiliated with these guys in any way.

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Quote from: Wendigo on July 04, 2015, 10:57:37 AM

Quote from: laughingbear on July 04, 2015, 10:31:26 AM

Funniest part of all this, is that this place has more business and players now from all this attention than they would have got in a year.

I guess there is no such thing as bad press.

Maybe the bad press is deliberate and it's all a big stunt who knows really lol Cool

On a side note, people seem to like nitpicking on each other on forums I guess it's just humans are the cruelest of animals. Company loves misery lol.

I thought this too. Would be a brilliant scam if true. Fake an exploit, hire a guy to expose you, rig your games.

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Quote from: laughingbear on July 04, 2015, 10:31:26 AM

Funniest part of all this, is that this place has more business and players now from all this attention than they would have got in a year.

I guess there is no such thing as bad press.

Maybe the bad press is deliberate and it's all a big stunt who knows really lol Cool

On a side note, people seem to like nitpicking on each other on forums I guess it's just humans are the cruelest of animals. Misery loves company.

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Quote from: arallmuus on July 04, 2015, 10:44:32 AM

Quote from: subSTRATA on July 04, 2015, 10:35:32 AM

when all this dies down the site should be relatively dead i think, that or after Dogedigital gives his official statement.

It wont be dead yet as most people doesnt even know what +EV means and practically they dont care about it especially this is happening for specific high mutiplier. Sadly if you look on the chatbox , you could see that there are still some regular playing as usual there without even care about it and they took on Joter's words that everything has been fixed while the fact is that everything is not fixed yet ( he is the first coder who dont know to do a simple math that I have met until now )

These people is pretty much ignorance with their "favourite site", the same thing you could say to those who are still playing ad supporting on 999dice despite that the site has been declared as a rigged and scam site since day 1

Quote from: laughingbear on July 04, 2015, 10:37:55 AM

but they have made more coin in the last few days, than they would have in a year or more of normal operation.

You've done them a favor.

So you proposed that we should keep quiet about this and let it go? This is not how the things work around here though

I have communicated with joter before, I thought he was arrogant and I thought he doesn't listen to others, I think I am totally correct. He is not only the bad math student, but also an very arrogant guy.

I talked with him in his thread about marketing of his site, but he refused to listen my ideas. I don't wanna find those discussions and show them cos it is wasting time, if everyone blames him, he must have some issues so that others blame him. So he doesn't care about his site and investors, his investors will be screwed by him I am pretty sure. Grin

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Quote from: arallmuus on July 04, 2015, 10:44:32 AM

Quote from: subSTRATA on July 04, 2015, 10:35:32 AM

when all this dies down the site should be relatively dead i think, that or after Dogedigital gives his official statement.

It wont be dead yet as most people doesnt even know what +EV means and practically they dont care about it especially this is happening for specific high mutiplier. Sadly if you look on the chatbox , you could see that there are still some regular playing as usual there without even care about it and they took on Joter's words that everything has been fixed while the fact is that everything is not fixed yet ( he is the first coder who dont know to do a simple math that I have met until now )

These people is pretty much ignorance with their "favourite site", the same thing you could say to those who are still playing ad supporting on 999dice despite that the site has been declared as a rigged site since day 1

Quote from: laughingbear on July 04, 2015, 10:37:55 AM

but they have made more coin in the last few days, than they would have in a year or more of normal operation.

You've done them a favor.

So you proposed that we should keep quiet about this and let it go? This is not how the things work around here though

Im saying your driving traffic and money to them, and thats true. At this point they have made their money, and can shut down and reopen under a different name. Id go about this differently.

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Quote from: laughingbear on July 04, 2015, 10:37:55 AM

but they have made more coin in the last few days, than they would have in a year or more of normal operation.

You've done them a favor.

that may be true, even if most of the wagers were from people looking to abuse the flawed system they had in place. I don't know what the statistics for the site were prior to all this, so I can't say if they actually made coin from this, but definitely a big attention boost. seems to be in a slight loss for the last day though.

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Quote from: subSTRATA on July 04, 2015, 10:35:32 AM

when all this dies down the site should be relatively dead i think, that or after Dogedigital gives his official statement.

It wont be dead yet as most people doesnt even know what +EV means and practically they dont care about it especially this is happening for specific high mutiplier. Sadly if you look on the chatbox , you could see that there are still some regular playing as usual there without even care about it and they took on Joter's words that everything has been fixed while the fact is that everything is not fixed yet ( he is the first coder who dont know to do a simple math that I have met until now )

These people is pretty much ignorance with their "favourite site", the same thing you could say to those who are still playing ad supporting on 999dice despite that the site has been declared as a rigged and scam site since day 1

Quote from: laughingbear on July 04, 2015, 10:37:55 AM

but they have made more coin in the last few days, than they would have in a year or more of normal operation.

You've done them a favor.

So you proposed that we should keep quiet about this and let it go? This is not how the things work around here though

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but they have made more coin in the last few days, than they would have in a year or more of normal operation.

You've done them a favor.

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Quote from: subSTRATA on July 04, 2015, 10:03:55 AM

i didnt realize the discrepancy between the decimal place "fix" between the roll value and the rolls themselves, no need to be insulting.

says the person who says:

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recheck your math, because thats a pretty glaring error on your part.

If you're going to be rude at least be right

i told you that i thought you made a mistake when i was unaware of the discrepancy; you called me a kid. theres a difference.

Quote from: laughingbear on July 04, 2015, 10:31:26 AM

Funniest part of all this, is that this place has more business and players now from all this attention than they would have got in a year.

I guess there is no such thing as bad press.

the majority of the new people there now are just looking to exploit, when i was on there last night all the chat was was "how to exploit? someone tell me how to +EV? 100% win method?"

when all this dies down the site should be relatively dead i think, that or after Dogedigital gives his official statement.

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Funniest part of all this, is that this place has more business and players now from all this attention than they would have got in a year.

I guess there is no such thing as bad press.

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Where does 0.015 even come from?

These bets have a target of < 0.015:

but the rolls only have 2 decimal places...

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