Topic: DefaultTrust changes - page 142. (Read 86349 times)

He was listed under owlcatz. But now it looks like Timelord's name has evaporated from the list entirely. I guess owlcatz must have seen this thread and removed him?

I just noticed it 2 hours ago, so I got to say, that was about a million times faster than I expected.....

Whatever I understand from OP, trust network working same as before. Only changed on DT1 so DT2 automatically updated. The summary of this post is that DT1 will update every month and obviously DT2 will update as well. However It's looking good that trust network expanding. Selection of DT1 isn't bad but I am bit disagree with merit requirement. Merit doesn't prove that I am trusted. By the way admin decision always welcome and congrats.. who have added on DT1 and DT2 list. Hope you will not abuse your power and will help forum to keep scam free.


I will request to someone from DT1, Please add ICOEthics  on your trust list. Since he have exposed many scam ICO's and help peoples. Although I put him on my trust list but it would be better is some put him on DT2. I believe he will not misused, because even he wasn't aware about how to leave feedback and what is DT. I just explained him whole system. Hope someone from DT1 will put him on DT2, so peoples will aware more about scam.      

Looks like theymos already explained on the above post,which solely depends on the trust and distrust of the DT1 level member,unfortunately OgNasty  got 1 distrust so excluded but in the next month he may be included.Needs time to settle down tho.

I'll play around with it. Even if I exclude him successfully not sure what's gonna happen if he changes his name again. Hopefully it's based on user ID somehow.

He was better than many, odd his exclusion returned Lauda to DT.

Any explanation on this Theymos?

or are you also on silent mode like lauda?

or can you only speak with yesmen?

 

Good idea, done. But don't worry too much about this stuff when sending merit or you're going to go crazy.

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Since it already changed, I just reconstructed DT1 again, and maybe I'll do it again in a couple of days. Many people can get eligibility just by setting a trust list, so things could change quickly at the beginning. Then I'll aim to do it roughly monthly.

To illustrate, this is how the current DT1 was arrived at:

Static part: calculated only periodically
Each number includes the previous criteria.
2431 members
100 members
90 members
90 members
23 members
23 members, giving a final DT1 of:

Dynamic part: recalculated constantly
(Omitting lists for undisputed ones.)

theymos: Total votes 9 = included
HostFat: Trusted by theymos; distrusted by gmaxwell, TMAN, Lauda, achow101, owlcatz, The Pharmacist. Total votes -6 = excluded.
dooglus: Total votes 8 = included
gmaxwell: Trusted by theymos, OgNasty, Cyrus, TMAN, Lauda, achow101, The Pharmacist; distrusted by HostFat. Total votes 6 = included.
OgNasty: Trusted by theymos, SebastianJu, greenplastic, achow101, krogothmanhattan; distrusted by TMAN, Lauda, suchmoon, owlcatz, BitcoinPenny, The Pharmacist. Total votes -1 = excluded
SebastianJu: Total votes 4 = included.
qwk: Total votes 5 = included
Cyrus: Total votes 7 = included.
monkeynuts: Total votes 6 = included.
TMAN: Trusted by Lauda, greenplastic, owlcatz, BitcoinPenny, The Pharmacist, krogothmanhattan; distrusted by OgNasty. Total votes 5 = included.
Lauda: Trusted by gmaxwell, qwk, TMAN, Blazed, suchmoon, owlcatz, JohnUser, BitcoinPenny, The Pharmacist; distrusted by HostFat, OgNasty. Total votes 7 = included.
Mitchell: Total votes 9 = included.
Blazed: Trusted by Cyrus, monkeynuts, TMAN, Lauda, Mitchell, suchmoon, BitcoinPenny, The Pharmacist, krogothmanhattan; distrusted by zazarb. Total votes 8 = included.
greenplastic: Total votes 2 = included.
suchmoon: Trusted by dooglus, Lauda, Blazed, owlcatz, The Pharmacist; distrusted by OgNasty. Total votes 5 = included.
achow101: Total votes 2 = included.
owlcatz: Trusted by TMAN, greenplastic, suchmoon, BitcoinPenny, krogothmanhattan. Total votes 5 = included.
JohnUser: No trusts/distrusts on DT1. Total votes 0 = included.
BitcoinPenny: Total votes 4 = included.
zazarb: Total votes 2 = included.
actmyname: Trusted by TMAN, Lauda, Blazed, suchmoon, The Pharmacist; distrusted by theymos. Total votes 5 = included.
The Pharmacist: Trusted by qwk, TMAN, Lauda, Blazed, suchmoon, owlcatz; distrusted by OgNasty, zazarb. Total votes 6 = included.
krogothmanhattan: Trusted by monkeynuts, TMAN, greenplastic, BitcoinPenny; distrusted by owlcatz. Total votes 4 = included.

So the final result is:
theymos
HostFat
dooglus
gmaxwell
OgNasty
SebastianJu
qwk
Cyrus
monkeynuts
TMAN
Lauda
Mitchell
Blazed
greenplastic
suchmoon
achow101
owlcatz
JohnUser
BitcoinPenny
zazarb
actmyname
The Pharmacist
krogothmanhattan

Try to search here idk what is the command for windows
https://emojipedia.org/camping/

You probably can use their copy on website 🏕️

Looks like OgNasty is not a part of current DT system,anyone feels he deserved to be in the list again.

BTW Meta and Reputation section will go on fire for some days again.

@Lauda,

Why so silent?

Answer :  Should hostilities end or Escalate?

It is your call?

 

FYI:

If I'm not entirely wrong, it's TradeFortress 🏕

Public request: Stop adding https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/xian01-58223 to DT2, it's killing the admin's rating (is inactive anyways).

I've noticed, yeah.

Who added him to begin with? He has some very good ratings, but also some others that I can't even remotely agree with.

It looks like - as LoyceV found out earlier in the thread - that existing DT members were at a slight disadvantage in this initial DT1 reorg. Being in DT means that other users are less likely to include you in their custom lists explicitly. This should change next month. I expect the next list to be bigger and more diverse so brace yourselves and work on your trust lists. I have reviewed mine and I think I'm ready except for one scammer. Anyone knows how to exclude TradeFortress with his shifty name? Or perhaps he's already on theymos blacklist.

People on Default Trust are under no obligations. So I'm not getting my hopes up. They might feel the need to clean up their own feedbacks left for others (like TMAN was saying above), but exclusion or countering negative feedback is a whole other issue. There's a lot of social pressures there. I think that usually only happens among prominent members or in really egregious and visible cases. Most people will probably just be ignored.

That's why I'm just hoping someone excludes Timelord2067 on the basis that he's tagged lots of other people without actual evidence too. I guess it's just a regular thing he does. (I'm sure there's legit tags too, but it's an obvious problem) So this is sort of a litmus test for me regarding whether this system can be just or not.

Before was almost impossible.
Now is possible for sure now everyone is incentivized to set up a custom trust list, this can be also exploited but with more people on DT2 we will get more people tagging for exploiting.

This has a strong recursive effect: adding theymos for instance turns certain users red and others green.

And what say you Lauda on the above?

Should the hatchet be Buried or Sharpen?

 

And what say you Lauda on the above?

 

I'm sure we are gonna see some dick measuring at 1st, but overall I think this is great for the forum

Well: If you view every "dispute" in which parties exchanged negative ratings, then you can never "burry the hatchet" with anyone. No?

Of course it would!

If all it takes for a scammer to get away with scamming is to tag me back and then negotiate mutual removal, no one will trust my ratings anymore.

If Anduck is willing to remove his rating if I remove mine, what does that say about his rating?