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legendary
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January 09, 2019, 03:52:28 PM
#86
Theymos quit being a coward,

You reinstated Lauda ,and you remain silent.

Man up and admit she does unspeakable deeds for you.


 Cool

FYI:
Wow, you are really lame Theymos,
it must be because you know you have no defense and your actions reinstating Laudanum ( Wink) a reprehensible act.
If you are looking for quiet solace her future actions will not bring it.

you do realise that you deserve to be tagged for being so fucking annoying right.

please let the adults discuss the changes - then in time you might get a response, keep on like this and you are going to get nothing!
administrator
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January 09, 2019, 03:52:19 PM
#85
Theymos quit being a coward,

You reinstated Lauda,and you remain silent.

Man up and admit she does unspeakable deeds for you.

Damn, I'm found out. While personally training Lauda in the dark arts of forum moderation, we fell deeply in love. I couldn't bear to see her endure the torture of trust drama while doing unspeakable deeds for me, so I invented this complicated algorithm as an excuse to add her back in even though I could've just unilaterally added her to DT at any second. Truly, my cowardice knows no bounds.
legendary
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January 09, 2019, 03:50:23 PM
#84
Just 4 days ago, I was actually surprised how many people had included me:

I'm now including you as well, so I'm guessing you're only a couple of inclusions away from DT1.

Which raises a question - is there a way to see one's eligibility? Like how many 10-merit users are including the user? The current trust hierarchy can only show who's included by people in my list but not the other way round. I know this can be extracted from data dumps but that's convoluted. Having visibility of it might help detect abuse before it happens.
legendary
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quack
January 09, 2019, 03:47:05 PM
#83
That would make the rest of my trust ratings questionable.
It would certainly not, no.

Of course it would!

If all it takes for a scammer to get away with scamming is to tag me back and then negotiate mutual removal, no one will trust my ratings anymore.

If Anduck is willing to remove his rating if I remove mine, what does that say about his rating?

I've now removed my negative ratings to you. I'll briefly explain why.

First of all, I am all for burying the hatchet.
Secondly, some events in the Internet where no monetary or other kind of real damage was done, do not really give a complete image of person's trustworthiness.
Given that Vod has worked in various ways to improve the forum, and based on other peoples (positive) views about him, I think that my rating was not anymore reasonable as it now also carries DT weight.
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January 09, 2019, 03:43:18 PM
#82
Theymos quit being a coward,

You reinstated Lauda ,and you remain silent.

Man up and admit she does unspeakable deeds for you.


 Cool

FYI:
Wow, you are really lame Theymos,
it must be because you know you have no defense and your actions reinstating Laudanum ( Wink) a reprehensible act.
If you are looking for quiet solace her future actions will not bring it.
administrator
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January 09, 2019, 03:40:47 PM
#81
Try to search here idk what is the command for windows
https://emojipedia.org/camping/

You probably can use their copy on website 🏕️

I'll play around with it. Even if exclude him successfully not sure what's gonna happen if he changes his name again. Hopefully it's based on user ID somehow.

You can just copy/paste his whole name, and it is stored as a user ID.
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January 09, 2019, 03:38:06 PM
#80
Interesting changes. Looks like more people are going to have to learn to get along now Wink

Doubtful Lauda has always been hard to get along with ,
and Theymos directly sanctions her actions, why would she change anything she does.


 Cool

 
legendary
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January 09, 2019, 03:36:01 PM
#79
It looks like - as LoyceV found out earlier in the thread - that existing DT members were at a slight disadvantage in this initial DT1 reorg. Being in DT means that other users are less likely to include you in their custom lists explicitly.
Just 4 days ago, I was actually surprised how many people had included me:
Code:
OgNasty->LoyceV
TheQuin->LoyceV
Avirunes->LoyceV
teeGUMES->LoyceV
nutildah->LoyceV
mocacinno->LoyceV
HiDevin->LoyceV
Two of them had excluded OgNasty:
Code:
TheQuin-/>OgNasty
Avirunes-/>OgNasty
My assumption was they added me to get closer to what DT looks like to others.
hero member
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January 09, 2019, 03:35:00 PM
#78
Interesting changes. Looks like more people are going to have to learn to get along now Wink
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January 09, 2019, 03:34:17 PM
#77
Looks like OgNasty is not a part of current DT system,anyone feels he deserved to be in the list again.

BTW Meta and Reputation section will go on fire for some days again. Cheesy

He was better than many, odd his exclusion returned Lauda to DT.

Any explanation on this Theymos?

or are you also on silent mode like lauda?

 Cool
Looks like theymos already explained on the above post,which solely depends on the trust and distrust of the DT1 level member,unfortunately OgNasty  got 1 distrust so excluded but in the next month he may be included.Needs time to settle down tho.

Is Theymos unable to speak for himself or are you officially sanctioned to speak for him?

I would think the high and mighty Theymos would have no fear of speaking to a lowly member with no DT status.
Then again the truth can be a very sharp sword.  Wink

Think a cowardly permaban might silence the truth, LOL, Try itCheesy Cheesy Cheesy


 Cool
legendary
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January 09, 2019, 03:32:21 PM
#76
That's why I'm just hoping someone excludes Timelord2067 on the basis that he's tagged lots of other people without actual evidence too. I guess it's just a regular thing he does. (I'm sure there's legit tags too, but it's an obvious problem) So this is sort of a litmus test for me regarding whether this system can be just or not.
Who added him to begin with? He has some very good ratings, but also some others that I can't even remotely agree with.

He was listed under owlcatz. But now it looks like Timelord's name has evaporated from the list entirely. I guess owlcatz must have seen this thread and removed him?

I just noticed it 2 hours ago, so I got to say, that was about a million times faster than I expected..... Smiley
legendary
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January 09, 2019, 03:30:50 PM
#75
Whatever I understand from OP, trust network working same as before. Only changed on DT1 so DT2 automatically updated. The summary of this post is that DT1 will update every month and obviously DT2 will update as well. However It's looking good that trust network expanding. Selection of DT1 isn't bad but I am bit disagree with merit requirement. Merit doesn't prove that I am trusted. By the way admin decision always welcome and congrats.. who have added on DT1 and DT2 list. Hope you will not abuse your power and will help forum to keep scam free.


I will request to someone from DT1, Please add ICOEthics  on your trust list. Since he have exposed many scam ICO's and help peoples. Although I put him on my trust list but it would be better is some put him on DT2. I believe he will not misused, because even he wasn't aware about how to leave feedback and what is DT. I just explained him whole system. Hope someone from DT1 will put him on DT2, so peoples will aware more about scam.      
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January 09, 2019, 03:30:43 PM
#74
Looks like OgNasty is not a part of current DT system,anyone feels he deserved to be in the list again.

BTW Meta and Reputation section will go on fire for some days again. Cheesy

He was better than many, odd his exclusion returned Lauda to DT.

Any explanation on this Theymos?

or are you also on silent mode like lauda?

 Cool
Looks like theymos already explained on the above post,which solely depends on the trust and distrust of the DT1 level member,unfortunately OgNasty  got 1 distrust so excluded but in the next month he may be included.Needs time to settle down tho.
legendary
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January 09, 2019, 03:28:13 PM
#73
Try to search here idk what is the command for windows
https://emojipedia.org/camping/

You probably can use their copy on website 🏕️

I'll play around with it. Even if I exclude him successfully not sure what's gonna happen if he changes his name again. Hopefully it's based on user ID somehow.
member
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January 09, 2019, 03:27:31 PM
#72
Looks like OgNasty is not a part of current DT system,anyone feels he deserved to be in the list again.

BTW Meta and Reputation section will go on fire for some days again. Cheesy

He was better than many, odd his exclusion returned Lauda to DT.

Any explanation on this Theymos?

or are you also on silent mode like lauda?

or can you only speak with yesmen?

 Cool
administrator
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Merit: 13032
January 09, 2019, 03:25:07 PM
#71
Uh-oh. So if I send 10 merits to 10 people trusting me then I'm in DT1? That doesn't sound right. Perhaps merits sent by the candidate should be excluded from the calculation. Just to prevent the most egregious abuse (or being accused of abuse when none was intended).

Good idea, done. But don't worry too much about this stuff when sending merit or you're going to go crazy.



Since it already changed, I just reconstructed DT1 again, and maybe I'll do it again in a couple of days. Many people can get eligibility just by setting a trust list, so things could change quickly at the beginning. Then I'll aim to do it roughly monthly.

To illustrate, this is how the current DT1 was arrived at:

Static part: calculated only periodically
Each number includes the previous criteria.
Quote
- If rank was determined solely using earned merit, then you must be of at least Member rank.
 - You must have been online sometime within the last 3 days.
2431 members
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- Your trust list must include at least 10 users, not including ~distrust entries.
100 members
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- You must have posted sometime within the last 30 days.
90 members
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- You must not be banned or manually blacklisted from selection.
90 members
Quote
- You must have at least 10 people directly trusting you each with an earned merit of at least 10, not including merit you sent yourself.
23 members
Quote
- You must have at least 1 person directly trusting you with an earned merit of at least 100, not including merit you sent yourself.
23 members, giving a final DT1 of:
Code:
theymos
HostFat
dooglus
gmaxwell
OgNasty
SebastianJu
qwk
Cyrus
monkeynuts
TMAN
Lauda
Mitchell
Blazed
greenplastic
suchmoon
achow101
owlcatz
JohnUser
BitcoinPenny
zazarb
actmyname
The Pharmacist
krogothmanhattan

Dynamic part: recalculated constantly
(Omitting lists for undisputed ones.)

theymos: Total votes 9 = included
HostFat: Trusted by theymos; distrusted by gmaxwell, TMAN, Lauda, achow101, owlcatz, The Pharmacist. Total votes -6 = excluded.
dooglus: Total votes 8 = included
gmaxwell: Trusted by theymos, OgNasty, Cyrus, TMAN, Lauda, achow101, The Pharmacist; distrusted by HostFat. Total votes 6 = included.
OgNasty: Trusted by theymos, SebastianJu, greenplastic, achow101, krogothmanhattan; distrusted by TMAN, Lauda, suchmoon, owlcatz, BitcoinPenny, The Pharmacist. Total votes -1 = excluded
SebastianJu: Total votes 4 = included.
qwk: Total votes 5 = included
Cyrus: Total votes 7 = included.
monkeynuts: Total votes 6 = included.
TMAN: Trusted by Lauda, greenplastic, owlcatz, BitcoinPenny, The Pharmacist, krogothmanhattan; distrusted by OgNasty. Total votes 5 = included.
Lauda: Trusted by gmaxwell, qwk, TMAN, Blazed, suchmoon, owlcatz, JohnUser, BitcoinPenny, The Pharmacist; distrusted by HostFat, OgNasty. Total votes 7 = included.
Mitchell: Total votes 9 = included.
Blazed: Trusted by Cyrus, monkeynuts, TMAN, Lauda, Mitchell, suchmoon, BitcoinPenny, The Pharmacist, krogothmanhattan; distrusted by zazarb. Total votes 8 = included.
greenplastic: Total votes 2 = included.
suchmoon: Trusted by dooglus, Lauda, Blazed, owlcatz, The Pharmacist; distrusted by OgNasty. Total votes 5 = included.
achow101: Total votes 2 = included.
owlcatz: Trusted by TMAN, greenplastic, suchmoon, BitcoinPenny, krogothmanhattan. Total votes 5 = included.
JohnUser: No trusts/distrusts on DT1. Total votes 0 = included.
BitcoinPenny: Total votes 4 = included.
zazarb: Total votes 2 = included.
actmyname: Trusted by TMAN, Lauda, Blazed, suchmoon, The Pharmacist; distrusted by theymos. Total votes 5 = included.
The Pharmacist: Trusted by qwk, TMAN, Lauda, Blazed, suchmoon, owlcatz; distrusted by OgNasty, zazarb. Total votes 6 = included.
krogothmanhattan: Trusted by monkeynuts, TMAN, greenplastic, BitcoinPenny; distrusted by owlcatz. Total votes 4 = included.

So the final result is:
theymos
HostFat
dooglus
gmaxwell
OgNasty
SebastianJu
qwk
Cyrus
monkeynuts
TMAN
Lauda
Mitchell
Blazed
greenplastic
suchmoon
achow101
owlcatz
JohnUser
BitcoinPenny
zazarb
actmyname
The Pharmacist
krogothmanhattan
legendary
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January 09, 2019, 03:23:08 PM
#70
It looks like - as LoyceV found out earlier in the thread - that existing DT members were at a slight disadvantage in this initial DT1 reorg. Being in DT means that other users are less likely to include you in their custom lists explicitly. This should change next month. I expect the next list to be bigger and more diverse so brace yourselves and work on your trust lists. I have reviewed mine and I think I'm ready except for one scammer. Anyone knows how to exclude TradeFortress with his shifty name? Or perhaps he's already on theymos blacklist.

Try to search here idk what is the command for windows
https://emojipedia.org/camping/

You probably can use their copy on website 🏕️
hero member
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January 09, 2019, 03:22:22 PM
#69
Looks like OgNasty is not a part of current DT system,anyone feels he deserved to be in the list again.

BTW Meta and Reputation section will go on fire for some days again. Cheesy
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January 09, 2019, 03:20:15 PM
#68
@Lauda,

Why so silent?

Answer :  Should hostilities end or Escalate?

It is your call?

 Cool

FYI:




legendary
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quack
January 09, 2019, 03:19:29 PM
#67
Anyone knows how to exclude TradeFortress with his shifty name?

If I'm not entirely wrong, it's TradeFortress 🏕
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