Topic: DefaultTrust changes - page 140. (Read 86349 times)
The new implement of trust network will help more to keep forum scam free. It's time to reconsider your custom trust list. I believe negative feedback will be reconsider each other between DT member. I am encourage with it if someone not obvious scammer. But who have tagged for obvious scam with proof but if he on DT2 list, his feedback should not be reconsider.
I just deleted my all trust list personalizations and going to start again.
Why, I'm not sure, but my brain just melted a bit and I want to think about it.
In view of the small number of members who actually set their own list, then I guess the vast majority will be seeing red and green trust by default left by these DT1 and DT2 members
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust
Is that right?
Why, I'm not sure, but my brain just melted a bit and I want to think about it.
In view of the small number of members who actually set their own list, then I guess the vast majority will be seeing red and green trust by default left by these DT1 and DT2 members
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust
Is that right?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;dt is the DT view regardless of your own settings.
Yeah thanks, that's what I thought.
As some amount of previously left "untrusted" feedback will now be lighting up green or red lights, maybe it would be a good idea to have the "Show untrusted feedback by default" box in profile settings ticked by default.
The older hands here will be able to appreciate the subtleties of Theymos' action on this, but it's important to remember the
The old system was better. As a result, we have a member in the DT1 list which is far to be someone to trust 
Abuse the forum and get included as a trusted person
happy new year resolution
Abuse the forum and get included as a trusted person
happy new year resolution
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Consider my pants fixed.
Yes. There are thousands of users whose custom lists will start to matter a lot.
But probably far less who will actually update their lists. Having said that, 10 people with 10 merits (and 1 with 100) trusting you is not a particularly high bar to be set. I would worry about potential scammers either buying or trading merits their way on to DT.
Really interesting to see changes being made to the forum. Thanks theymos!
now 2fa when?
now 2fa when?
Interesting changes. Looks like more people are going to have to learn to get along now 
Doubtful Lauda has always been hard to get along with ,
and Theymos directly sanctions her actions, why would she change anything she does.
I were also tagged by Lauda but after starting normal conversation about solving the issue Lauda actually were looking after for second chance.
We all do deserve second chance, not only to receive but give.
Believe me no matter how bad you think Lauda is, in matter of fact, even he/she is normal and good person like everyone else who give second chance.
Just make normal conversation and don't be ignorant.
2nd Case: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=234771 (My own view) - MikeMike, Timelord2067, Vod, cryptodevil, philipma1957, peonminer, CanaryInTheMine feedback as trusted.
In the 2nd case I see MikeMike and peonminer are added member whos feedbacks are showing Trusted feedback from me. Thing is, I never added these two in my trust list (No disrespect guys, I don't know you two.). So, I am a bit confuse how these two are trusted for me?
People who you add to your list are DT1 for you. The people that they have added to their lists are DT2 for you. Feedbacks from both layers are visible by default.In the 2nd case I see MikeMike and peonminer are added member whos feedbacks are showing Trusted feedback from me. Thing is, I never added these two in my trust list (No disrespect guys, I don't know you two.). So, I am a bit confuse how these two are trusted for me?
CanaryInTheMine includes MikeMike. Not sure about peonminer.
And krogothmanhattan -> CanaryInTheMine -> MikeMike
zazarb and krogothmanhattan are on my DT1 among all other I trust.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;dt is the DT view regardless of your own settings.
;dt attribute works to see the profile rating too.Example: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/vod-30747
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Now I understand the entire trust system better than ever.I'm going to have to ask you to stop using that gif because every time I see it makes me feel funny in my pants.
There's a fix for your pants:Firefox > about:config > image.animation_mode > once
Now it's just a dumb looking picture.
I'll delete this post in 15 minutes.
Nice thing and good to see some changes !
Translated this thread to the German forum https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/die-default-trust-wurde-geandert-5095223 so everybody knows about !
Would be nice if an Admin or Global Mod can stick it there !
Translated this thread to the German forum https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/die-default-trust-wurde-geandert-5095223 so everybody knows about !
Would be nice if an Admin or Global Mod can stick it there !
i dont trust anybody. 
not even myself.
but i now changed the default-setting. i had to make ~
not even myself.but i now changed the default-setting. i had to make ~
And I will too. If my understanding is right, although I'm not trusted by anyone, simply by virtue of having earned enough merits, my inclusion will count?
Yes. There are thousands of users whose custom lists will start to matter a lot.
happy those who have a theymos on their side.
miserable that we are without having some one who will update the rules to restore our dignity and become again in a pure state like we were before.
welcome back guys.
miserable that we are without having some one who will update the rules to restore our dignity and become again in a pure state like we were before.
welcome back guys.
cryptohunter is back with -ve trust. Does that mean we will be subjected to another set of insults, threats, and lies? Armageddon? 
You can guarantee there will be a new novel written by cryptohunter tonight for all to read 
I'm going to have to ask you to stop using that gif because every time I see it makes me feel funny in my pants.
There's a fix for your pants:Firefox > about:config > image.animation_mode > once
Now it's just a dumb looking picture.
I'll delete this post in 15 minutes.
I am afraid this new update will fail big time as some DT members will be afraid to tag other DT members or "potentially" coming DT members just to save themselves from being removed from DT.
Yep. It was easy to trust Theymos, but now we have to trust random people that come and go off of DT1.
I think I'll stop tagging for a while until I see how this plays out.
I just deleted my all trust list personalizations and going to start again.
Why, I'm not sure, but my brain just melted a bit and I want to think about it.
In view of the small number of members who actually set their own list, then I guess the vast majority will be seeing red and green trust by default left by these DT1 and DT2 members
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust
Is that right?
Why, I'm not sure, but my brain just melted a bit and I want to think about it.
In view of the small number of members who actually set their own list, then I guess the vast majority will be seeing red and green trust by default left by these DT1 and DT2 members
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust
Is that right?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;dt is the DT view regardless of your own settings.
As I said before, although we obviously disagreed about the conduct of that auction, I don't think it should have permanently marked your account given your otherwise extensive positive trading history.
Exactly.And I will too. If my understanding is right, although I'm not trusted by anyone, simply by virtue of having earned enough merits, my inclusion will count?
Yes.-snip-
I'm going to have to ask you to stop using that gif because every time I see it makes me feel funny in my pants.
it's surprising that some people are now asking you to remove the tag, but never did before "Anduck" became a DT member, so you are right when you tag a non-DT member but not so right when you tag a DT member?
I am afraid this new update will fail big time as some DT members will be afraid to tag other DT members or "potentially" coming DT members just to save themselves from being removed from DT.
this is not related to you "Vod" and "Anduck" it just a general assumption of a potential shitty scenario where some DT members might look the other way only to stay on DT.
As far as I know the DT1 list also may get refreshed every month so if some of the DT member is abusing the trust system can be excluded by the others.I am afraid this new update will fail big time as some DT members will be afraid to tag other DT members or "potentially" coming DT members just to save themselves from being removed from DT.
this is not related to you "Vod" and "Anduck" it just a general assumption of a potential shitty scenario where some DT members might look the other way only to stay on DT.
Hoping that no misuse of DT power will happen anymore.
Just 4 days ago, I was actually surprised how many people had included me:
I'm now including you as wellAnd I will too. If my understanding is right, although I'm not trusted by anyone, simply by virtue of having earned enough merits, my inclusion will count? I always just used Default Trust because I like to see things the same way the majority of users did, but I'll be playing around with a custom trust list over the next few days.
I've now removed my negative ratings to you.
Thank you for taking the first step here. As I said before, although we obviously disagreed about the conduct of that auction, I don't think it should have permanently marked your account given your otherwise extensive positive trading history. More cooperation and less conflict amongst senior members, who should all be on the same team (protecting the forum from scammers), can only be a good thing.
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I'm going to have to ask you to stop using that gif because every time I see it makes me feel funny in my pants.
Now this is a good news. Hope this change will lead to better ecosystem in the forum and hope this will push more people to use custom lists too.
Happy to see Krogo on the DT1, congrats man.
Brace yourself, trust statistics are coming
Happy to see Krogo on the DT1, congrats man.
Brace yourself, trust statistics are coming
cryptohunter is back with -ve trust. Does that mean we will be subjected to another set of insults, threats, and lies? Armageddon?
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