Topic: DefaultTrust changes - page 16. (Read 84702 times)

Some users may not update their trust list for years.  The review you are linking to is not backed up by a link, and the tag should be changed to neutral. The first thing you need to do is write to him in a PM and then here, remember to tell him to revise his trust list.

Perhaps someone will delve into the proofs that you provided, but you did not mention that you have a red tag from LVLF and MoxnatyShmel. Since they at DT, everyone sees these feedback, and since LVLF and MoxnatyShmel now have a federated model against you, therefore it worries you so much. You Too, left LVLF an unjustified red tag in the form of retribution for his red tag, and it seems that all your reviews come down to insults.

We went from 150 eligible users last month to 151 this month.  That shows our (lack of) tolerance for trust padding is having a positive effect.

I didn't find it obvious, possibly because you said your complaint "is related to the judgment of this person" and then proceeded to list users who trust this user, which isn't necessarily indicative of Bubbalex's ability to use the trust system.

As far as the sockpuppeting allegations are concerned, did you ever follow up with Loyce's advice last time around?

Well, if you take upon yourself the right to judge and talk about the judgments of a stranger, why shouldn't others do this? My first tilde was in relation to you about the fact that you could not explain your red tags to the bounty hunter.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5286672
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5286672
 And second, yes, you are too categorical and demanding of many.  Well, I don't believe you. There is something two-faced. And if the first time I thought I was wrong, today I was convinced that I was right.

If you check carefully, then this user himself gave a refusal to be in the DT. And I agree with Nutildah that to talk about a person's judgment, you should at least look at his trust list. But even there, I do not see anything reprehensible. bubbalex is a bounty manager and, according to his colleagues, not a bad one. At least, I did not observe that he collected cheaters in his companies. And yes, I want to hear what these judgments a person can have, so that just without proof, publicly call on everyone to put a tilde on him?

You've listed the users he is "trusted by" -- not users he has trusted (added to his trust list). So if you want to judge the judgment of this person then you'll need to do it by something else... preferably his own trust list or trust ratings.

Here's another person who, in my opinion, should not be on the DT2 list. And although my vote doesn't solve anything at the moment, I decided to use the tilde. I have no complaints about this person, and in this particular case, the use of the tilde is not related to trade issues, but is related to the judgment of this person.


bubbalex's judgement is Trusted by:
1. silversurfer1958 (Trust: neutral) (11 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. bamb (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. sabotag3x (Trust: +2 / =1 / -0) (772 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. endlasuresh (Trust: +0 / =0 / -2) (3 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. Bazinga442 (Trust: +0 / =0 / -6) (24 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. Hellmouth42 (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (1) 325 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. Kriptopsina (Trust: neutral) (145 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
8. Luana Trade Banned! (Trust: #  +0 / =0 / -8) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
9. ZeusTrade Banned! (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
10. ZeusRecife Banned! (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
11. TradeRafael (Trust: +0 / =0 / -3) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
12. RafaelCrypto (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
13. H8bussesNbicycles (Trust: +0 / =1 / -11) (10 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
14. ito-marketing (Trust: +0 / =0 / -3) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
15. gwsukabokepjepang (Trust: +0 / =0 / -10) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
16. Charlie Lee Banned! (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
17. ColumbiaCrypto (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
18. ZeusContent (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
19. skillscreating (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
20. smartcontracts100 (Trust: +0 / =1 / -5) (5 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
21. Bounty Team (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

I'll drop this here.

I posted that on April 6, 2019, 3 days after theymos updated DT1. Both before and after, Veleor had only included 9 users. He could have included one more the days in between, then removed it again. I guessed that's unlikely, hence my conclusion theymos may count DefaultTrust too.

I don't think so.

Thank you! I have set a notification! By the way, I did not know this nuance, and since we are talking about this, do you accidentally remember under what circumstances Veleor had 9 inclusions? Was he on DT1 during the first week? (At the time, loyce.club did not display the DT badge yet).

I think you're referring to my DT1-election: Rank up pipeline:
I only "crossed out" the 3-day requirement because I don't account for this (it wouldn't make sense to check this days or weeks before DT1 gets updated). Theymos still checks for it.

No, LoyceV was right ... The conversation was about the fact that when updating monthly lists, Theymos is also guided by internal indicators of "inactive" (perhaps these are logs, but the point is that these indicators are similar to the BPIP extension).

All the more, if I remember correctly, LoyceV crossed out in one of his threads devoted to this issue the "rule of three days". I would be grateful if someone could refresh my memory by providing a link to this thread, because I don't remember where to look for it, (including title).

It's covered by this part:

I think icopress meant users who don't have been online in the last three days.

I don't think the concept of "inactive" accounts exists on Bitcointalk. It's made up by BPIP.

Correct. Default trust breakdown should always show 100 users.

Thanks for the clarification ... I have not forgotten that the user can be excluded by other DT1 members, but I was just interested in the question of auto-reset from the position of DT in cases where the account does not meet the basic criteria. I understand it, this also applies to inactive accounts?

Let's say the account got the "Inactive" status a few days after Theymos published the DT logs .. Nevertheless, the user will be on DT1 until the next election, after which it will become DT2 (If strength +).

Yes. DT1 is only changed once a month, but the user can still be excluded by other DT1-members.

I have a question about the intricacies of the trust system...

Let's say I add a user to my trust list, (I'm the 10th in a row who trusts the user, he also meets all the other requirements) and as a result, he becomes a member of DT1 (after monthly random elections). Then, immediately after the random election, I remove this person from my trust list (that is, formally he will no longer meet the DT requirements), will he remain DT1 until the next monthly election, or will he be reset?

Theymos reshuffled DT1 last night.

Removed:
    1. Staff gmaxwell (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (3731 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    2. Donator OgNasty (Trust: +58 / =3 / -5) (1125 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    3. Legendary SebastianJu (Trust: +27 / =0 / -0) (66 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    4. Staff Welsh (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (1116 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    5. Sr. Member Ticked (Trust: +25 / =0 / -0) (209 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    6. Global Moderator hilariousandco (Trust: +23 / =2 / -0) (902 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    7. Legendary Avirunes (Trust: +11 / =1 / -0) (388 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    8. Legendary buckrogers (Trust: +16 / =0 / -0) (150 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    9. Legendary Rmcdermott927 (Trust: +23 / =1 / -1) (113 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   10. Legendary DaveF (Trust: +23 / =1 / -0) (1123 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   11. Legendary yahoo62278 (Trust: +22 / =2 / -0) (1567 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   12. Legendary zazarb (Trust: +22 / =0 / -0) (503 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   13. Legendary LFC_Bitcoin (Trust: +12 / =0 / -0) (3083 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   14. Legendary ezeminer (Trust: +23 / =0 / -0) (111 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   15. Legendary klarki (Trust: neutral) (273 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   16. Legendary DarkStar_ (Trust: +49 / =1 / -0) (1494 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   17. Legendary johhnyUA (Trust: +0 / =0 / -2) (858 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   18. Legendary Jet Cash (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (1567 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   19. Sr. Member RaltcoinsB (Trust: neutral) (362 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   20. Hero Member xenon131 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (668 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   21. Legendary roycilik (Trust: +9 / =2 / -0) (1534 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   22. Legendary CryptopreneurBrainboss (Trust: +3 / =1 / -0) (1652 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   23. Copper Member bavicrypto (Trust: +31 / =0 / -0) (150 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   24. Legendary Veleor (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (1487 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   25. Sr. Member 3meek (Trust: neutral) (255 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   26. Hero Member vycl87 (Trust: +0 / =0 / -2) (619 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   27. Legendary TheBeardedBaby (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (2215 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   28. Legendary tvplus006 (Trust: +15 / =0 / -0) (1378 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   29. Legendary dkbit98 (Trust: +11 / =1 / -0) (1398 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   30. Staff mole0815 (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (1486 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   31. Legendary witcher_sense (Trust: +14 / =0 / -0) (1639 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   32. Hero Member MoparMiningLLC (Trust: +18 / =0 / -0) (724 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   33. Legendary anonymousminer (Trust: +31 / =0 / -0) (1095 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   34. Legendary morvillz7z (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (1502 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   35. Legendary taikuri13 (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (1424 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   36. Hero Member geophphreigh (Trust: +14 / =0 / -0) (656 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Added:
    1. Staff HostFat (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (115 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    2. Donator CanaryInTheMine (Trust: +24 / =0 / -0) (46 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    3. Legendary Balthazar (Trust: +4 / =1 / -1) (326 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    4. Legendary babo (Trust: +8 / =1 / -0) (964 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    5. Administrator Cyrus (Trust: +12 / =0 / -0) (289 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    6. Legendary ibminer (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (911 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    7. Legendary TookDk (Trust: +26 / =0 / -0) (54 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    8. Legendary figmentofmyass (Trust: neutral) (936 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    9. Legendary arulbero (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (742 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   10. Hero Member Lydian (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (170 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   11. Legendary Buchi-88 (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (426 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   12. Legendary cryptodevil (Trust: +9 / =0 / -1) (192 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   13. Legendary suchmoon (Trust: +14 / =0 / -0) (5042 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   14. Staff achow101 (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (2588 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   15. Legendary teeGUMES (Trust: +9 / =2 / -1) (887 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   16. Legendary owlcatz (Trust: +46 / =0 / -0) (452 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   17. Legendary dazedfool (Trust: +30 / =0 / -0) (126 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   18. Legendary irfan_pak10 (Trust: +15 / =1 / -0) (340 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   19. Legendary BitcoinPenny (Trust: +45 / =0 / -0) (786 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   20. Hero Member muslol67 (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (396 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   21. Hero Member ekiller (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (457 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   22. Copper Member bL4nkcode (Trust: +15 / =1 / -0) (651 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   23. Legendary HCP (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (2657 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   24. Legendary xtraelv (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (1692 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   25. Legendary webtricks (Trust: neutral) (1163 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   26. Hero Member bobita (Trust: neutral) (641 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   27. Legendary Baofeng (Trust: neutral) (1011 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   28. Legendary krogothmanhattan (Trust: +74 / =1 / -0) (1671 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   29. Legendary Coin-1 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (1080 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   30. Hero Member sheenshane (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (759 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   31. Copper Member logfiles (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (890 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   32. Legendary joniboini (Trust: neutral) (1462 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   33. Legendary coinlocket$ (Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (1335 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   34. Legendary DdmrDdmr (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (4623 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   35. Sr. Member Hellmouth42 (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (325 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
   36. Legendary Husna QA (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (1488 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)