Topic: 📝[Discussion topic] Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns📝 - page 3. (Read 6442 times)

Looking at your avatar, it's him that I am hearing say that.

I mean, think about it for a moment. If there's more than enough in the reserve, then why not just give up those weekly slots to Open source non-profit Bitcoin projects and service?

Maybe advertise Electrum, Bitcoin core, The new forum software etc

We gotta work harder, share more, post more, write more, think more in order to

Make bitcointalk great again.

If I am not wrong theymos doesn't need anymore revenue via advertising for development of the forum he already has more than enough in the reserve so he just thought no more ad slots which actually should increased the campaign via signature and it happened too via mixers by increasing payout rate more than others now they are no longer allowed here for advertising the dynamics have changed.

Regarding casino advertising the sig campaign is not cheap but the real reason they are discounting is they moved to bigger picture like becoming sponsor for franchise that is who new level like in few million which is too much compared to how much they are spending now.

And I guess bitcointalk reached certain threshold and people are running out of interesting topics to get into discussions.

Yeah, in the long run such thing can happen. If activity on Bitcointalk will continue to decline, forum will struggle to attract new users, signature campaigns can simply disappear because there will be not much point to advertise here. After all, it's not that cheap way to advertise and probably not the most effective one.
Not sure that whole thing started when theymos stopped to auction ad slots here, but anyway, I see it as wrong decision which doesn't helps to forum. But that's just my opinion.

This is my thought too. There will come a time when signature campaigns are no longer a thing. I think the whole thing started with Theymos stopping that periodic adslot campaign where services would try to auction for the slots, Maybe there was something he saw that we hadn't yet seen. After the mixer ban, a few years later, you can tell that the only remaining popular advertisers here are the Bitcoin casinos. Most of them are starting to have their own forums and a number of the OG casinos of this space have already moved on

I generally see a (small, but perhaps steady) quality improvement in the last years, or at least a reduction of spam, the not-spam/spam ratio is going up at least for me. Let's face it: The "surplus" in posts we had in 2017-21 compared to now were in its majority spam posts. The "Bitcoin Discussion" forum was almost unusable, and now here and there interesting topics pop up, although there's still a lot of spam.

Regarding signature campaigns: For an advertiser, what's important is not the post count but the amount of potential readers. The Ad slot stats are not looking too positive but also not that bad. What has decreased is mostly the number of unique logged-in users (i.e. mostly "signature campaign participants"), while the number of unique logged-out users are growing at least since 2023, and also the impressions per slot are steady or slowly increasing.

Of course, I believe the forum's quality needs an even more significant boost if the decreasing trend in signature campaigns should be reverted. Everybody can contribute. It would also perhaps help to create "shareable" threads, i.e. threads with such high quality that you can share them at Reddit, X or whatever, attracting more potential readers. It would of course help if there was at least a slightly more beautiful theme. Perhaps the community can do some custom CSS and offer it to theymos?

Are you implying that for every banned mixer campaign some "other" campaign magically popped up? Because that didn't happen.
Some managed to get a spot in a different, non-mixer campaign, but if the total number of available spots is much lower, and if pay rates are in decline, there's less overall incentive and the activity goes down.

Just because there still are some campaigns operating, doesn't mean banning mixer campaigns had no impact on activity as you previously stated.

I don't think my post is hard to understand, I said "they will move to other campaigns", which mean they will have incentive to post and they can post whatever they want including discuss about mixers.

It's an exception for users who only want to promote "non gambling project" but it's only 5%-10% of them, after all there's always an user willing to promote anything, so the traffic will not go down.

The end of the mixer campaigns may have helped. But that only happened this year - 2024. And the forum has been losing activity since 2022.
We are currently posting 60k less than we posted 2 years ago.

Mixer ban indeed affected the post count in the forum. It is foolish to think otherwise. We can discuss mixers but we can’t promote them which is how people can make money. No money = no incentive to post

It looks like the forum is on a constant decline. If more people lose interest in the forum, In a few years we might end up losing sig camps completely.

In order to make other members to increase their activity is having more signature campaign.

Banning of mixers didn't really affect the forum, because we can still discuss about mixers and mention the sites (without posting the URL link). The forum only ban people who promote specific mixers.

Let's say there were 10 mixer campaigns and pays for $150 per week, but if there are 10 new campaigns comes up and pays at the same rate, the traffic will not go down because users who promote mixers will switch to other campaigns.

Unfortunately, just hoping things get better is not enough, we need other members to increase their activity on this forum, other members leave the scene and others return. Did the banning of mixers affect this result? However, the mixers are available on the other forum, even though they don't pay as much as they did when they were available on this forum and there the campaigns are also scarce, so that doesn't explain much to me.

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The graph covers 2 years, since July 2022.

In 2022 the number of posts was actually much higher, compared to what we had in 2023 and what we have in 2024. Between 2022 and 2024 the number of posts has been decreasing by almost half. This is a very rough analysis, of course.

Therefore, I think it is not related to either the campaigns or the release of the forum mixes. It may have helped, but it won't be the main point.

The graphic also shows last year's reduced activity in this same period. It is a pity that we cannot see how it was in previous years.

A smaller number of campaigns is the epilogue of reduced activity.
Although it can be said that they are in some kind of mutual dependence. An increase or decrease of one or the other (campaigns vs. activity) results in the same trend on the other side.

Actually looking at the last year of posts, we see a reduction of almost half compared to a year ago.


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But I don't think it's just because of the campaigns that this is happening. But I also can't give a better explanation.

Take a closer look at who were the participants in this campaign, you will see that most of them are very experienced members with a lot of merit earned. So they don't need to research the forum or earn merit because they did it much earlier.

Without going into how much earning from this forum means to whom, there is a considerable drop in activity on the Bitcointalk forum, the reduced number of campaigns is a consequence of that. I hope that it is only because of the summer period, as many are on vacation, and that it will be better in the next period.

Very funny. 

Look on the bright side, these people will get to explore parts of the forum that were originally unknown to them and be able to gather some merits in the meantime enough to be able to pitch themselves in the next campaign. Hence this time period should be properly utilized even if painful.

Besides, Bitcointalk should not be the sole earning source, it is a side hustle and people should be serious about it.

I agree, things have to be thought of in the long term, although it is difficult to know whether a given campaign will last a few weeks or for a long time. Campaigns that last well are the consequence of the movement of the forum, which needs to continue.