📝[Discussion topic] Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns📝 - page 5.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on June 28, 2024, 05:22:14 PM

Yeah, it looks a bit dodgy and raises few red flags.
No manager, low effort signature design (which doesn't seem to even display properly for some ranks), no escrow, ran by junior account.
Then again, the account cryptomus_com was registered in 2022 and is running the relevant ANN thread, so at least we know is not some guy trolling.
I wouldn't bother with this one even if I was not enrolled in my current campaign.

On the other hand, the campaign’s funding does not seem low, as the number of people who will be accepted is 50, and approximately a small number of signature campaigns have that. If we take 50*20, the minimum weekly payment is 1000, which is exactly the same as a $100 signature campaign for 10 accounts.
I think they should change the campaign manager and everything will be fine, but what caught my attention most was the large number of reviews for the service, even though it was the first time I heard about them.

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Quote from: logfiles on June 28, 2024, 05:59:19 PM

When I looked at the Signature campaign ANN some hours back, it was over 5 pages of replies and I was wondering what could have attracted so many users to apply so fast only to realized it was accepting Jr member rank as well.

I am more than certain there are some individuals who have woken up their Alternate low ranking accounts in order to participate in that campaign. Maybe it's also a good campaign for low rank members to grab an opportunity and start off a journey here. Time will tell.

There are not many free slots in the campaigns. Probably many people think that $20 is still 20x more than $0
Plus, to be realistic, the power of the Bitcointalk forum is declining, and so is the payment rate for campaigns. Although $20 for Jr. member ranks as quite the correct payment.

For example, just a few months ago, $50 a week on altcoinstalks was considered miserable.

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Quote from: Potato Chips on June 28, 2024, 05:00:18 PM

Fast forward, a new signature campaign has opened spots for jr. members and above. Shocked

Quote from: cryptomus_com on June 27, 2024, 09:19:27 AM

Cryptomus is a multifunctional platform that enables businesses to easily and conveniently accept cryptocurrency payments. Learn more on the official
Payouts and Positions:
- Jr. Member - Full Member: $20 per week
- Sr. Member - Legendary: $40 per week

Though, it does look painfully obvious they aren't aware of the forum dynamics and did not hire a manager as well so I'm expecting more changes to likely roll out couple of days after. Who knows if they'll keep the rank spots or perhaps there'd be a pay change. There'd be no loss for people interested to apply now though.

Maybe they want to venture out, just like Best Change did.

When I looked at the Signature campaign ANN some hours back, it was over 5 pages of replies and I was wondering what could have attracted so many users to apply so fast only to realized it was accepting Jr member rank as well.

I am more than certain there are some individuals who have woken up their Alternate low ranking accounts in order to participate in that campaign. Maybe it's also a good campaign for low rank members to grab an opportunity and start off a journey here. Time will tell.

pawel7777

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Quote from: Potato Chips on June 28, 2024, 05:00:18 PM

Though, it does look painfully obvious they aren't aware of the forum dynamics and did not hire a manager as well so I'm expecting more changes to likely roll out couple of days after. Who knows if they'll keep the rank spots or perhaps there'd be a pay change. There'd be no loss for people interested to apply now though.

Yeah, it looks a bit dodgy and raises few red flags.
No manager, low effort signature design (which doesn't seem to even display properly for some ranks), no escrow, ran by junior account.
Then again, the account cryptomus_com was registered in 2022 and is running the relevant ANN thread, so at least we know is not some guy trolling.
I wouldn't bother with this one even if I was not enrolled in my current campaign.

Potato Chips

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Fast forward, a new signature campaign has opened spots for jr. members and above. Shocked

Quote from: cryptomus_com on June 27, 2024, 09:19:27 AM

Cryptomus is a multifunctional platform that enables businesses to easily and conveniently accept cryptocurrency payments. Learn more on the official
Payouts and Positions:
- Jr. Member - Full Member: $20 per week
- Sr. Member - Legendary: $40 per week

Though, it does look painfully obvious they aren't aware of the forum dynamics and did not hire a manager as well so I'm expecting more changes to likely roll out couple of days after. Who knows if they'll keep the rank spots or perhaps there'd be a pay change. There'd be no loss for people interested to apply now though.

Potato Chips

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Quote from: BossJumong on June 20, 2024, 03:58:21 PM

Didn't know there's an update in the signature design restrictions. The last I remember, they allowed junior members to put link and text with a maximum of 160 characters, and 4000 to 8000 characters for legendary and hero members. Could you please provide me with the link to the update?

Yeah, they allowed links years ago but updates happened in order to combat spam. Signature campaigns as a whole has become stricter over time including what type of users campaign managers go for. There are little to no opportunities even at member level -- probably also because they want folks who have more experience in the forum.

BTW, I believe the stickied thread about forum ranks on meta board should be updated, see:

Quote from: John (John K.) on April 17, 2013, 12:54:54 AM

Signature restrictions

There are restrictions on signatures, based on your activity/rank.

Quote from: theymos on February 26, 2014, 04:15:18 PM

- Newbie: No styling (including links) allowed. Max 50 characters.
- Jr. Member: Max 150 characters.
- Member: Links allowed. Unlimited length.
- Full: Color allowed.
- Sr. Member: Size allowed
- Hero: Background color allowed

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Quote from: BossJumong on June 20, 2024, 12:07:37 PM

With the help of campaign managers, bitcointalk will be more active if they bring back the old way of accepting participants, like accepting even jr. member ranks. Most campaigns now only accept Hero to Legendary Members. I think Jr. Members rank is okay with the payment even if it is only $10 per week or less. This would also help the campaign and save some funds. But assume high amount of spam post once this once is implemented.

There must be a reason for campaigns not bothering with junior members. Sure, they could pay them much less and probably there would still be takers, but if the cost of managing junior members (i.e. checking their posts, making sure they're not breaking the rules, making payments etc) exceeds any potential benefits, then it's simply not worth it.
Junior's signatures are simply hardly visible on the forum, so they're not very good in terms of either creating more brand awareness or getting people to click on the links.
Just be patient, stay active and try to rank up.

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Quote from: BossJumong on June 20, 2024, 03:58:21 PM

Quote from: snipie on June 20, 2024, 03:48:02 PM

Quote from: BossJumong on June 20, 2024, 12:07:37 PM

With the help of campaign managers, bitcointalk will be more active if they bring back the old way of accepting participants, like accepting even jr. member ranks. Most campaigns now only accept Hero to Legendary Members. I think Jr. Members rank is okay with the payment even if it is only $10 per week or less. This would also help the campaign and save some funds. But assume high amount of spam post once this once is implemented.

In the past there was signature only and avatar only campaigns and others using both signatures and avatars. At that time junior and members have more options to join campaigns.
Few years ago, maybe with the merit system implementation and stricter policies regarding spam, in addition to the availability of relatively important number of higher ranks, it becomes less attractive to recruit less than Full Member.
I would say that the situation of Full Member of nowadays was the same as junior member years ago regarding signature campaigns.

Didn't know there's an update in the signature design restrictions. The last I remember, they allowed junior members to put link and text with a maximum of 160 characters, and 4000 to 8000 characters for legendary and hero members. Could you please provide me with the link to the update?

I might wrote in a complex manner here. What I meant by stricter policies isn't the Bitcointalk itself implementing new rules, even though this happened before when theymos removed the ability of new junior and members from wearing avatars. I meant signature campaigns wants to mark its presence as maximum as possible so getting someone with an avatar for example is better than having a tiny text that few people could pay attention to.
I think signature campaigns will interest more for lower ranks whenever they want to increase the number of visitors and potentially users, to their website. It is a low budget move since many people will invest there and ends up by losing in a way or another. .

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Quote from: BossJumong on June 20, 2024, 12:07:37 PM

With the help of campaign managers, bitcointalk will be more active if they bring back the old way of accepting participants, like accepting even jr. member ranks. Most campaigns now only accept Hero to Legendary Members. I think Jr. Members rank is okay with the payment even if it is only $10 per week or less. This would also help the campaign and save some funds. But assume high amount of spam post once this once is implemented.

The truth is, due to the ICO boom, there were so many signature campaigns both that would pay in Bitcoin and altcoins (ICOs) thus so many opportunities. This gave an opportunity for even Jr Members to participating ICO signature campaigns, which were also so well rewarding most of the time in that Bull run.

After that period, the ICO bounties became less lucrative and people switched to Bitcoin paying signature campaigns. There was an influx of high ranking users and with the few campaigns left, Most CMs resorted to accepting only Sr Member ranks and above. It's just about demand and supply and the service being advertised trying to get the best out of what they pay for advertising.

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Quote from: snipie on June 20, 2024, 03:48:02 PM

Quote from: BossJumong on June 20, 2024, 12:07:37 PM

With the help of campaign managers, bitcointalk will be more active if they bring back the old way of accepting participants, like accepting even jr. member ranks. Most campaigns now only accept Hero to Legendary Members. I think Jr. Members rank is okay with the payment even if it is only $10 per week or less. This would also help the campaign and save some funds. But assume high amount of spam post once this once is implemented.

In the past there was signature only and avatar only campaigns and others using both signatures and avatars. At that time junior and members have more options to join campaigns.
Few years ago, maybe with the merit system implementation and stricter policies regarding spam, in addition to the availability of relatively important number of higher ranks, it becomes less attractive to recruit less than Full Member.
I would say that the situation of Full Member of nowadays was the same as junior member years ago regarding signature campaigns.

Didn't know there's an update in the signature design restrictions. The last I remember, they allowed junior members to put link and text with a maximum of 160 characters, and 4000 to 8000 characters for legendary and hero members. Could you please provide me with the link to the update?

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Quote from: BossJumong on June 20, 2024, 12:07:37 PM

With the help of campaign managers, bitcointalk will be more active if they bring back the old way of accepting participants, like accepting even jr. member ranks. Most campaigns now only accept Hero to Legendary Members. I think Jr. Members rank is okay with the payment even if it is only $10 per week or less. This would also help the campaign and save some funds. But assume high amount of spam post once this once is implemented.

In the past there was signature only and avatar only campaigns and others using both signatures and avatars. At that time junior and members have more options to join campaigns.
Few years ago, maybe with the merit system implementation and stricter policies regarding spam, in addition to the availability of relatively important number of higher ranks, it becomes less attractive to recruit less than Full Member.
I would say that the situation of Full Member of nowadays was the same as junior member years ago regarding signature campaigns.

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Quote from: BossJumong on June 20, 2024, 12:07:37 PM

With the help of campaign managers, bitcointalk will be more active if they bring back the old way of accepting participants, like accepting even jr. member ranks. Most campaigns now only accept Hero to Legendary Members. I think Jr. Members rank is okay with the payment even if it is only $10 per week or less. This would also help the campaign and save some funds. But assume high amount of spam post once this once is implemented.

The biggest reason is, it's not very appealing for advertising teams because of the extremely limited signature styling of Jr. members -- limited characters and no links allowed AFAIK.

High amount of spam is also possible as you say which could mean campaign teams may have to spend more effort on jr.members compared to others. At that point, I don't think it would be worth it considering the limited exposure their signature would give.

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With the help of campaign managers, bitcointalk will be more active if they bring back the old way of accepting participants, like accepting even jr. member ranks. Most campaigns now only accept Hero to Legendary Members. I think Jr. Members rank is okay with the payment even if it is only $10 per week or less. This would also help the campaign and save some funds. But assume high amount of spam post once this once is implemented.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on May 30, 2024, 05:43:20 PM

A new campaign popped up today and, if I'm not mistaken, looks like it will be the highest-paying campaign out there, with a current rate for Legendary of $5 per post, max. 25/week, so up to $125/week.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/close-zeusmex-instant-cryptocurrency-exchange-signature-campaign-upto-125w-5498328
I'm happy where I am, so I'm not looking to jump ship, but it's always good to see rates going up and new businesses coming in, especially when it's an exchange and not yet another casino.
I'm completely unaware of Zeusmix, but hoping it's not a mixer in disguise and that participants/organisers won't get banned by theymos.

Same feeling, after almost 1 month at a standstill, with no openings for existing campaigns and no new campaigns, 2 new campaigns finally appeared. Unfortunately, I didn't catch the period when the average weekly payments were more higher, as I simply wanted to improve my account ranking. Added to the fact that I spent almost 4 years without being active on the forum, I still don't know why I made that decision but I will never do that again. I'm very grateful to be in a Duelbits campaign now.

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Quote from: examplens on May 31, 2024, 06:28:43 PM

Quote from: LTU_btc on May 31, 2024, 03:02:01 PM

Quote from: pawel7777 on May 31, 2024, 11:03:42 AM

Quote from: logfiles on May 30, 2024, 06:14:56 PM

If they had come as "Zeus.exchange" or "ZeusEx", would we still be speculating if it's a mixer or an exchange? I don't think so. It's simply an exchange that does not require KYC, just like exch.cx and many others. You can also test it out to confirm Wink

Not gonna lie, I based my post solely on their name.
But having a glance at their site, it looks like a regular instant exchange. Then again, if you think about it, a non-KYC exchanges are not that much different from mixers, i.e. you could use them for the same purpose, unless the exchange is keeping records (and is willing to share them with authorities) that can link the depositing and withdrawing addresses.

Word ''Mix'' is trigger here but it looks like another non-KYC exchange. It's possible to view such exchanges as mixers, but I hope it won't happen. If it will happen, then I will say that the end is near.
Nice to see new high paying campaign popping up, interesting how long it's going to last.

They may have "mix" in their name, but they have indicated that they have AML control and will not accept risky coins. This makes them quite different from any mixer.
They are NO-KYC, but they will not allow the exchange process if the coins do not comply with AML. The only difference compared to most other services with AML is that they do not freeze the funds but send them back to the sender.

Latest update. "mix" changed to "mex" 😂
I think it's a good choice now.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on May 31, 2024, 03:02:01 PM

Quote from: pawel7777 on May 31, 2024, 11:03:42 AM

Quote from: logfiles on May 30, 2024, 06:14:56 PM

If they had come as "Zeus.exchange" or "ZeusEx", would we still be speculating if it's a mixer or an exchange? I don't think so. It's simply an exchange that does not require KYC, just like exch.cx and many others. You can also test it out to confirm Wink

Not gonna lie, I based my post solely on their name.
But having a glance at their site, it looks like a regular instant exchange. Then again, if you think about it, a non-KYC exchanges are not that much different from mixers, i.e. you could use them for the same purpose, unless the exchange is keeping records (and is willing to share them with authorities) that can link the depositing and withdrawing addresses.

Word ''Mix'' is trigger here but it looks like another non-KYC exchange. It's possible to view such exchanges as mixers, but I hope it won't happen. If it will happen, then I will say that the end is near.
Nice to see new high paying campaign popping up, interesting how long it's going to last.

They may have "mix" in their name, but they have indicated that they have AML control and will not accept risky coins. This makes them quite different from any mixer.
They are NO-KYC, but they will not allow the exchange process if the coins do not comply with AML. The only difference compared to most other services with AML is that they do not freeze the funds but send them back to the sender.

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Slava Ukraini!

Quote from: pawel7777 on May 31, 2024, 11:03:42 AM

Quote from: logfiles on May 30, 2024, 06:14:56 PM

If they had come as "Zeus.exchange" or "ZeusEx", would we still be speculating if it's a mixer or an exchange? I don't think so. It's simply an exchange that does not require KYC, just like exch.cx and many others. You can also test it out to confirm Wink

Not gonna lie, I based my post solely on their name.
But having a glance at their site, it looks like a regular instant exchange. Then again, if you think about it, a non-KYC exchanges are not that much different from mixers, i.e. you could use them for the same purpose, unless the exchange is keeping records (and is willing to share them with authorities) that can link the depositing and withdrawing addresses.

Word ''Mix'' is trigger here but it looks like another non-KYC exchange. It's possible to view such exchanges as mixers, but I hope it won't happen. If it will happen, then I will say that the end is near.
Nice to see new high paying campaign popping up, interesting how long it's going to last.

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Quote from: logfiles on May 30, 2024, 06:14:56 PM

If they had come as "Zeus.exchange" or "ZeusEx", would we still be speculating if it's a mixer or an exchange? I don't think so. It's simply an exchange that does not require KYC, just like exch.cx and many others. You can also test it out to confirm Wink

Not gonna lie, I based my post solely on their name.
But having a glance at their site, it looks like a regular instant exchange. Then again, if you think about it, a non-KYC exchanges are not that much different from mixers, i.e. you could use them for the same purpose, unless the exchange is keeping records (and is willing to share them with authorities) that can link the depositing and withdrawing addresses.

Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on May 31, 2024, 07:21:55 AM

No, tell them to go to the local bank and get the crypto from there.

They will take your picture, identity card, finger print. They will also take your spouse's picture, identity card, finger print. They may also consider seeing you and your spouse is kissing each others and probably will take you two in separate rooms. Then they will ask information about your private parts just to be sure that you are couple. 🤪

You reminded me of the time I was buying a used car and paid with bank transfer. Transfer got blocked and I had to call the bank to let it through. After being on hold for literally 1 hour, I had to answer dozens of questions incl. what am I buying, the name of the seller, where did I know him from, where did I got my money from, was I under duress etc. Experiences of that sort really makes you appreciate cryptocurrencies.

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Farewell LEO: o_e_l_e_o

Quote from: NotATether on May 31, 2024, 07:13:43 AM

Man, when someone asks how can they convert their BTC to ETH we'll have to tell them to use Coinbase? 🤮

No, tell them to go to the local bank and get the crypto from there.

They will take your picture, identity card, finger print. They will also take your spouse's picture, identity card, finger print. They may also consider seeing you and your spouse is kissing each others and probably will take you two in separate rooms. Then they will ask information about your private parts just to be sure that you are couple. 🤪

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bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org

Quote from: logfiles on May 30, 2024, 06:14:56 PM

My only worry is that LE starts going after NoKYC exchanges and then admin starts banning them too from here. In a meantime, let's enjoy the present. Let enjoy the ride.

Man, when someone asks how can they convert their BTC to ETH we'll have to tell them to use Coinbase? 🤮

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