📝[Discussion topic] Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns📝 - page 4.

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Quote from: logfiles on July 13, 2024, 09:40:55 PM

According to Ralle14's latest update, so far, there are only 16 active signature campaigns left. Not even that difficult period of COVID-19 has this very low number of active signature campaigns. And this all is happening during the time when we are getting ready for the bull market, or already a half way there. I wonder what will happen once we get to the bear market.

15 now.

Blackjack.fun has been suspended too. 25 more people lost their jobs. The unemployment rate on btt is going higher. A recession is imminent.

I prefer quality over numbers of signature campaign. There is no need to have campaigns that run for a couple of weeks before shutting down like it was just a publicity spot. Serious campaigns have to last as long as possible to recruit new people every time. Honestly, I tend to trust services with signature campaigns more than unknown ones in the net. The service that shut down its campaign makes me afraid of a possible exit.
For these people who got "jobless", they can try to join Stake in bounties since it is open but they will have to accept payments with USDT rather than Bitcoin..

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Quote from: logfiles on July 13, 2024, 09:40:55 PM

According to Ralle14's latest update, so far, there are only 16 active signature campaigns left. Not even that difficult period of COVID-19 has this very low number of active signature campaigns. And this all is happening during the time when we are getting ready for the bull market, or already a half way there. I wonder what will happen once we get to the bear market.

15 now.

Blackjack.fun has been suspended too. 25 more people lost their jobs. The unemployment rate on btt is going higher. A recession is imminent.

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Quote from: logfiles on July 13, 2024, 09:40:55 PM

According to Ralle14's latest update, so far, there are only 16 active signature campaigns left. Not even that difficult period of COVID-19 has this very low number of active signature campaigns. And this all is happening during the time when we are getting ready for the bull market, or already a half way there. I wonder what will happen once we get to the bear market.

First, I wouldn't say that Covid-19 period was difficult when it comes to Bitcointalk. Most of wbsites that is advertised here is doing their business online, so, Covid times weren't bad for them at all.
If mixers wouldn't be banned here, probably nobody wouldn't even noticed decline of campaigns. Asside from gambling websites, mixers were significant part of campaigns.
Also, one of long time campaigns Bestchange endedd not so long time ago, nothing new didn'tappeared, but I think it's only matter of time. But there is some bad trends like dropping Bitcoinalk traffic or more regulations on Bitcointalk like ban of mixers that affects number of new campaigns.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on July 13, 2024, 11:34:22 PM

Campaigns will come and go, this is temporary. All of a sudden we might see a burst of campaigns coming in like crazy. They will never disappear completely unless the forum shuts down or the admin decided to shut down campaigns.

Lets make sure to keep bitcointalk that way such that above never happens. We humans tend to focus too much on negatives at times, while things need time and patience to work out.

In the meantime make sure everyone earns merits and gets their ranks up to be able to join new campaigns as and when they come up.

Campaigns are scarce for various reasons, but let's maintain the quality of the forum and try to be more active, not get discouraged!

Sometimes I enter on this forum and visit boards such as Development & Technical Discussion, I see low movement, sometimes staying idle for hours or a whole period, I miss more technical discussions related to Bitcoin and cryptography tools, when more busier the forum is, the better a favorable environment for more campaigns to appear, but we have to do everything within limits and respect the forum rules.

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Quote from: logfiles on July 13, 2024, 09:40:55 PM

According to Ralle14's latest update, so far, there are only 16 active signature campaigns left. Not even that difficult period of COVID-19 has this very low number of active signature campaigns. And this all is happening during the time when we are getting ready for the bull market, or already a half way there. I wonder what will happen once we get to the bear market.

It's hard to compare current period with the past ones when mixers were allowed to advertise and were a big % of all active campaigns.

I haven't done any research on that, but bull-market is not necessarily a best time for any crypto-related businesses, as people might be much more keen to hold on to their coins rather than to spend them in casinos, or any other businesses. Maybe with the exception of exchanges, but we don't have too many of them.

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Quote from: logfiles on July 13, 2024, 09:40:55 PM

According to Ralle14's latest update, so far, there are only 16 active signature campaigns left. Not even that difficult period of COVID-19 has this very low number of active signature campaigns. And this all is happening during the time when we are getting ready for the bull market, or already a half way there. I wonder what will happen once we get to the bear market.

Campaigns will come and go, this is temporary. All of a sudden we might see a burst of campaigns coming in like crazy. They will never disappear completely unless the forum shuts down or the admin decided to shut down campaigns.

Lets make sure to keep bitcointalk that way such that above never happens. We humans tend to focus too much on negatives at times, while things need time and patience to work out.

In the meantime make sure everyone earns merits and gets their ranks up to be able to join new campaigns as and when they come up.

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Quote from: logfiles on July 13, 2024, 09:40:55 PM

According to Ralle14's latest update, so far, there are only 16 active signature campaigns left. Not even that difficult period of COVID-19 has this very low number of active signature campaigns. And this all is happening during the time when we are getting ready for the bull market, or already a half way there. I wonder what will happen once we get to the bear market.

Well for me there's only 3 that might possibly happen. It's either continue to decrease, increase, or totally disappear. But disappearing is not likely because Bitcointalk signature campaigns have been here for two decades. And that 16 signature campaigns are only in the service board. I think there are some signature campaigns in the bounty board that are paying in altcoins. For example, most of Julerz managed and Stake's signature campaign that was moved to the bounty section.

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According to Ralle14's latest update, so far, there are only 16 active signature campaigns left. Not even that difficult period of COVID-19 has this very low number of active signature campaigns. And this all is happening during the time when we are getting ready for the bull market, or already a half way there. I wonder what will happen once we get to the bear market.

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Quote from: snipie on July 06, 2024, 07:09:00 PM

Quote from: Solosanz on July 05, 2024, 12:41:50 AM

I see there are many campaigns paused in this week (Ok.fun, Spinarium, Betfury, Swgt, BK8), I count there are 76 users in these campaigns. This is an opportunity for new projects that want to run signature campaign or other campaigns that want to increase the number of promoters with high quality posters since they don't have to fight to increase the reward.

However, sad to see there are not much campaigns if we compare to the last year.

It doesn't work like that. Some old campaigns might open few spots to attract the top contributors of the closed signature campaigns but definitely not all of them.
New and serious projects will not change its schedule because of events like that.
For the campaigns number, it is variable from time to time and depends also from the restrictions imposed by the forum.

[PAUSED] or [ONHOLD] are just marketing tricks. If the manager wrote closed, ended etc... soon everyone would forget about the campaign and the service itself, especially small services. However, if it is only paused, many will occasionally check to see if there are any changes.
Signature campaigns are exclusively long-term marketing plans, and anyone who expects any results after 2-4 weeks is seriously mistaken.

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Quote from: Solosanz on July 05, 2024, 12:41:50 AM

I see there are many campaigns paused in this week (Ok.fun, Spinarium, Betfury, Swgt, BK8), I count there are 76 users in these campaigns. This is an opportunity for new projects that want to run signature campaign or other campaigns that want to increase the number of promoters with high quality posters since they don't have to fight to increase the reward.

However, sad to see there are not much campaigns if we compare to the last year.

It doesn't work like that. Some old campaigns might open few spots to attract the top contributors of the closed signature campaigns but definitely not all of them.
New and serious projects will not change its schedule because of events like that.
For the campaigns number, it is variable from time to time and depends also from the restrictions imposed by the forum.

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Quote from: Solosanz on July 05, 2024, 12:41:50 AM

I see there are many campaigns paused in this week (Ok.fun, Spinarium, Betfury, Swgt, BK8), I count there are 76 users in these campaigns. This is an opportunity for new projects that want to run signature campaign or other campaigns that want to increase the number of promoters with high quality posters since they don't have to fight to increase the reward.

However, sad to see there are not much campaigns if we compare to the last year.

We cannot expect campaigns to be always pumping like that, we have to also consider the interest of some of these organizations bringing in their service promotion here, they faces a lot of challenges as well from their own end, secondly, we just need to be more tuned to how the way of these telegram bounties and tokens with airdrops are fast approaching and many of these organizations may also wish to join in this new trend because telegram campaigns now is being considered as one of the most lucrative advertisement idea and platform, even though bitcointalk still have more edge over them, but people try to test on new approaches and discovery before they determine which they settle with.

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Quote from: logfiles on June 30, 2024, 06:38:39 PM

How is it so far over there? Are there new services streaming in to advertise, or the whole thing just ended at the migration of mixers?

Mixers are mostly there, at least as far as signature campaigns are concerned. There will be some from other branches, but mostly short-term, only for a few weeks.
I don't know how many you follow mixers area, but a couple of well-known mixers (at least on Bitcointalk) have gone out of business, some have turned into scams, and in the meantime, some new ones have appeared. For now, the campaigns and the growth of the forum itself are still on an upward path, so we will see what time will bring.

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I see there are many campaigns paused in this week (Ok.fun, Spinarium, Betfury, Swgt, BK8), I count there are 76 users in these campaigns. This is an opportunity for new projects that want to run signature campaign or other campaigns that want to increase the number of promoters with high quality posters since they don't have to fight to increase the reward.

However, sad to see there are not much campaigns if we compare to the last year.

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Quote from: examplens on June 28, 2024, 06:09:13 PM

There are not many free slots in the campaigns. Probably many people think that $20 is still 20x more than $0
Plus, to be realistic, the power of the Bitcointalk forum is declining, and so is the payment rate for campaigns. Although $20 for Jr. member ranks as quite the correct payment.

I agree that the Bitcointalks traffic has been on a decline over past months but in the late 2018 to 2019 period just during the previous bull market's hangover, most of the services pulled out from campaigning and except for some very few signature campaigns like that of chipmixer, fortunejack, bustadice. Most campaigns had legendary ranks, getting around $50-$40 and would last only for a couple of weeks. Member ranks would have to part with something close to $10

Quote from: examplens on June 28, 2024, 06:09:13 PM

For example, just a few months ago, $50 a week on altcoinstalks was considered miserable.

How is it so far over there? Are there new services streaming in to advertise, or the whole thing just ended at the migration of mixers?

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Quote from: Plaguedeath on June 29, 2024, 05:00:40 AM

Quote from: ABCbits on June 29, 2024, 04:52:47 AM

Jr. Member can join and they even could earn same money with Full Member? Account farmer would be drooling over this signature campaign. Member who spend time to find alt. account probably should pay attention to this signature campaign.

I didn't mean to defend the cheaters, but the @OP didn't mention if they prohibit alt accounts usage, so it's in grey area. Someone had caught alt accounts that participated in the same campaign, but there are few users said participating in the same campaign doesn't mean they're cheater and will receive negative feedback because there are no rules they broke, moreover this forum allow alt accounts.

Everything you said are right, i was just sharing my speculation. But once they're more familiar with this forum, i doubt they'll continue let allowing alt. account join their signature campaign. And existence of thread Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk IV (2024 Q2) [MODERATED] 🤨🔬 tell us that using alt. account (especially to join signature/bounty campaign) doesn't look good in eyes of many members. I expect those who got caught might receive neutral tag.

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Quote from: ABCbits on June 29, 2024, 04:52:47 AM

Jr. Member can join and they even could earn same money with Full Member? Account farmer would be drooling over this signature campaign. Member who spend time to find alt. account probably should pay attention to this signature campaign.

Lol. Pretty much why I was expecting a pay change. Perhaps they saw a campaign with one payrate for senior members and above hence decided it works similarly with the lower ranks? 🤔

Welp, there are big gaps with the lower ranks as far as signature restrictions are concerned hence a one payrate is imbalanced imo.

Quote from: Plaguedeath on June 29, 2024, 05:00:40 AM

I didn't mean to defend the cheaters, but the @OP didn't mention if they prohibit alt accounts usage, so it's in grey area. Someone had caught alt accounts that participated in the same campaign, but there are few users said participating in the same campaign doesn't mean they're cheater and will receive negative feedback because there are no rules they broke, moreover this forum allow alt accounts.

I wonder if the rule has been suggested to OOP? it could be they're unaware why the rule is important, if so.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on June 29, 2024, 10:06:38 AM

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I agree with the points you've mentioned, on the other hand it's difficult to come up with a campaign that accepts from jr member and that the payment isn't that low (considering the ranking), since the signature of jr member is almost not visible (it has been a while since I've see jr member signature).

Another factor that draws attention is the budget, when it is too much, the risk of the campaign lasting too little is high, even more so when it's not managed by any reliable manager. But I hope that everything goes well for those selected and that it will become a good campaign and that the company behind it manages to obtain the desired marketing results here on the forum.

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Quote from: examplens on June 28, 2024, 06:09:13 PM

There are not many free slots in the campaigns. Probably many people think that $20 is still 20x more than $0

If you have a junior account, you're active on the forum anyway and there are no alternatives (i.e. other campaigns accepting juniors) then any price is a good price as it doesn't cost you anything.
I see similar thing on the other forum, altcoinstalk, where there are dozens of applicants for a single available slot, even knowing they only pay $1/post (Senior-Legendary) and $0.50 for full member.
I guess this is still attractive for people from poorer countries and/or for young people who just to make some income.

Quote from: examplens on June 28, 2024, 06:09:13 PM

Plus, to be realistic, the power of the Bitcointalk forum is declining, and so is the payment rate for campaigns. Although $20 for Jr. member ranks as quite the correct payment.
For example, just a few months ago, $50 a week on altcoinstalks was considered miserable.

The decline in payment rates is almost entirely due to the ban on mixers, as they offered the best payments.
When I got back to the forum in 2022/2023 after few years of inactivity, I was surprised to see payments being so high despite the drop in the forum's activity. If I remember correctly, $1/post was considered a very decent pay say around 2014 (although the dollar was worth much worth).

Quote from: hugeblack on June 28, 2024, 10:51:57 PM

On the other hand, the campaign’s funding does not seem low, as the number of people who will be accepted is 50, and approximately a small number of signature campaigns have that. If we take 50*20, the minimum weekly payment is 1000, which is exactly the same as a $100 signature campaign for 10 accounts.
I think they should change the campaign manager and everything will be fine, but what caught my attention most was the large number of reviews for the service, even though it was the first time I heard about them.

Yeah, in terms of a number of users, it will be quite large campaign, but, in terms of budget, it'll be around average. So it's a bit odd that they're willing to put in all that money but are not bothered with getting properly designed signatures or hiring a campaign manager.

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Quote from: ABCbits on June 29, 2024, 04:52:47 AM

Jr. Member can join and they even could earn same money with Full Member? Account farmer would be drooling over this signature campaign. Member who spend time to find alt. account probably should pay attention to this signature campaign.

I didn't mean to defend the cheaters, but the @OP didn't mention if they prohibit alt accounts usage, so it's in grey area. Someone had caught alt accounts that participated in the same campaign, but there are few users said participating in the same campaign doesn't mean they're cheater and will receive negative feedback because there are no rules they broke, moreover this forum allow alt accounts.

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Quote from: Potato Chips on June 28, 2024, 05:00:18 PM

Fast forward, a new signature campaign has opened spots for jr. members and above. Shocked

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Though, it does look painfully obvious they aren't aware of the forum dynamics and did not hire a manager as well so I'm expecting more changes to likely roll out couple of days after. Who knows if they'll keep the rank spots or perhaps there'd be a pay change. There'd be no loss for people interested to apply now though.

Jr. Member can join and they even could earn same money with Full Member? Account farmer would be drooling over this signature campaign. Member who spend time to find alt. account probably should pay attention to this signature campaign.

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