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How can two persons be so addicted to gambling that they'll go to such an extent? Apparently the mother is definitely not a good role model to the son. The son definitely needs a strong father figure which is what he lacks. I don't like the punishment or fine give  to them. It is not going to be in anyway effective. Their punishment could have been rehabilitation and community service.
Here we see a picture of addicted gamblers. Both of them are addicted to gambling thee is no doubt about it. But I do not think that the attempt to rehabilitation or the means of punishing them is correct. What's wrong with a gambler gambling with his money? I will spend my money and i have the right. I will never accept blame for that. I am only responsible for managing the money in gambling so it will be the way I control it. Losses in gambling should never be blamed on others.
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Nope, I never blame anyone for my gambling losses because I always responsible with all of my bet.

I think this mother and son are looking a loophole how to get their money back, so he choose to create a fake story. I have seen such kind case in my country where an employee create a fake story where he got robbed when he want to go to bank for distributing the salary to every employees in his company. The truth is he store those money in his house lol.
people like that cheat for their own benefit even just to gamble and lose must sacrifice others, that's really a fatal mistake let alone lying to everyone in general by making up stories and engineering so that their plays are successful then everyone is deceived too and finally a lot which is sacrificed only to make up for the money lost from gambling.

It's sad to see crimes like this really endanger everyone, not just one or two people who are affected but the whole society is also affected. I also often see stories like this but rarely get punished accordingly so they can commit crimes like that again, but the 7 year sentence the OP was telling me about wasn't sure it would make the mother and daughter change  Grin
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Well, they have 2 options. Either stay in jail for 7 years or pay just 320$.

Well, I can't relate that much on this one because I myself isn't blaming anybody if I'm losing in gambling. I mean it's my own decisions to enter gambling so I will be the one who's to blame if I will lose my money. I guess the only scenario that we will blame gambling for our losses is that if some friend of yours tried to tell you to bet on a particular team, you bet on it and you lose. Maybe that's the time where you can blame your friend. Cheesy

How can two persons be so addicted to gambling that they'll go to such an extent? Apparently the mother is definitely not a good role model to the son. The son definitely needs a strong father figure which is what he lacks. I don't like the punishment or fine give  to them. It is not going to be in anyway effective. Their punishment could have been rehabilitation and community service.
It's gambling, and gambling isn't picky. Tongue

Nobody is safe from gambling addiction. Mother, father, son, daughter, cousins. All people can get addicted into gambling. As long as they tried it, and it come to a point where they want to spend more time with it then it's gambling addiction already. I guess the mother needs money, and she doesn't have any ways to earn money so she resorted to gambling. Either way, I agree with you that she didn't become a good model for his son, and it's quite unfortunate for the kid to be involved into gambling as such a young age.
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Nope, I never blame anyone for my gambling losses because I always responsible with all of my bet.

I think this mother and son are looking a loophole how to get their money back, so he choose to create a fake story. I have seen such kind case in my country where an employee create a fake story where he got robbed when he want to go to bank for distributing the salary to every employees in his company. The truth is he store those money in his house lol.
Greed as usual, what can you expect from a addicted gambler?
I'm wondering who's the real gambler here, the son or the mother who influence his son to be a gambler too?
Now they are paying the karma for making false mistakes. Personally, I won't blame someone for my losses, first of all I don't let someone handle my finances, and second I know what I'm doing so every mistakes that I make I should be more responsible for that and accept that mistakes.
I agree with you that it's not fair to blame anyone for a gambling loss, it usually depends on the person. I think they bet out of greed without checking anything. Blaming others after a loss since there are gains and losses in gambling, it is not easy to determine when one becomes too much. It is not possible for a gambler to win consistently due to the successful use of game theory. Therefore it is easy to win if you make the right decision without being greedy.
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Their tandem will lead them together as Partners in Crime that I think the fine is very tin to what crime they have committed .
better that they will be confined to rehabilitation and will let them stay there until realization about how they manage to act with that.
8000 dollars is not a small amount specially in the country they are living and better that there will be a much higher punishment for them.
because this will not stop here and there will be more victim in the future if their horn will not be cut now.
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Yes, you can put a blame on someone for your losses in gambling if that person contributed to your finanl decision in making that particular bet you lost, but you need to first blame yourself for being too open for receiving external feeds from others influencing your gambling decision, when you do do then you will now discover the more needs to make decisions by yourself in other not to regret any outcome being received, what keep me more concerned about this is that if you win, this same people will come out in telling others they make you win but when you loose, they wouldn't do that, rather they will keep mute.
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Court sentences mother, son to 7 years imprisonment and what did they do? Court sentences mother, son to 7 years imprisonment
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The mother and the son after gambling away 5.6 million naira, that is about $8,000. When the reality dawned on them, they gave false information in petition, accusing someone of fraudulently transferring the fund from their Opay account to the sport betting account without their authorization.

Could this be a case of making someone pay for what they didn't eat or a case of double standard.

Bet as you can sustain and not allow your emotions have a better part of you.

they both did the stupidest thing imo..their total loss was N5.6m + N150000 (peace fee) Cheesy

making false testimonies because losing to gambling is a very reckless thing, every gambling site must have a good problem-solving team and can't be fooled carelessly. I would never do stupid things like this because I gamble consciously and am ready for whatever happens in the end (win or lose).
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The mother and the son after gambling away 5.6 million naira, that is about $8,000. When the reality dawned on them, they gave false information in petition, accusing someone of fraudulently transferring the fund from their Opay account to the sport betting account without their authorization.

Could this be a case of making someone pay for what they didn't eat or a case of double standard.

Bet as you can sustain and not allow your emotions have a better part of you.

For someone who has already lost so much money, a punishment with one more fine is indeed a very severe penalty.
I believe this was a desperate attitude on the part of someone trying to recover money that would certainly be sorely missed by this family.

Anyway, putting the blame on someone else in order to destroy the life of someone who has nothing to do with the fact is much more wrong.

However, I believe that freedom imprisonment and even forced community service would be more efficient than a fine, because how will they pay this fine now that they have already lost so much money in gambling?
I catch your drift, but I gotta push back. Slapping someone with a cell or community service for a non-violent misstep like gambling? That's not only overkill but straight-up counterproductive. We gotta switch gears, treating addiction and gambling woes as public health dramas, not crime sprees. Let's bankroll education, prevention, and rehab plans to help folks conquer their demons and bounce back.

On top of that, let's hold the gambling biz's feet to the fire for the damage they inflict. Profiting off people's cravings without an ounce of accountability or oversight? No dice. But let's not lose sight of the human angle. The one facing that hefty tab is probably in a world of hurt, and they need our understanding and empathy, not our shade.
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Nope, I never blame anyone for my gambling losses because I always responsible with all of my bet.

I think this mother and son are looking a loophole how to get their money back, so he choose to create a fake story. I have seen such kind case in my country where an employee create a fake story where he got robbed when he want to go to bank for distributing the salary to every employees in his company. The truth is he store those money in his house lol.
Greed as usual, what can you expect from a addicted gambler?
I'm wondering who's the real gambler here, the son or the mother who influence his son to be a gambler too?
Now they are paying the karma for making false mistakes. Personally, I won't blame someone for my losses, first of all I don't let someone handle my finances, and second I know what I'm doing so every mistakes that I make I should be more responsible for that and accept that mistakes.
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Nope, I never blame anyone for my gambling losses because I always responsible with all of my bet.

I think this mother and son are looking a loophole how to get their money back, so he choose to create a fake story. I have seen such kind case in my country where an employee create a fake story where he got robbed when he want to go to bank for distributing the salary to every employees in his company. The truth is he store those money in his house lol.
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Court sentences mother, son to 7 years imprisonment and what did they do? Court sentences mother, son to 7 years imprisonment


The mother and the son after gambling away 5.6 million naira, that is about $8,000. When the reality dawned on them, they gave false information in petition, accusing someone of fraudulently transferring the fund from their Opay account to the sport betting account without their authorization.

Could this be a case of making someone pay for what they didn't eat or a case of double standard.

Bet as you can sustain and not allow your emotions have a better part of you.



It appears that the mother and son have committed fraud by giving false information in their petition and accusing someone else of fraudulently transferring the funds without their authorization. That is absolutely mad idea and a total irresponsibility. It is not clear whether they are trying to make someone pay for something they didn't do or if there is a double standard involved. But of course all and all their actions are unethical and illegal, and they should be held accountable for their wrongdoing. Gambling away such a large amount of money is a serious matter, but it is not an excuse to engage in fraudulent behavior. If they don't they will surely do it again.
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The mother and the son after gambling away 5.6 million naira, that is about $8,000. When the reality dawned on them, they gave false information in petition, accusing someone of fraudulently transferring the fund from their Opay account to the sport betting account without their authorization.

Could this be a case of making someone pay for what they didn't eat or a case of double standard.

Bet as you can sustain and not allow your emotions have a better part of you.

For someone who has already lost so much money, a punishment with one more fine is indeed a very severe penalty.
I believe this was a desperate attitude on the part of someone trying to recover money that would certainly be sorely missed by this family.

Anyway, putting the blame on someone else in order to destroy the life of someone who has nothing to do with the fact is much more wrong.

However, I believe that freedom imprisonment and even forced community service would be more efficient than a fine, because how will they pay this fine now that they have already lost so much money in gambling?
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Kinda dumb as a petition though. I mean, I reckon it should be pretty easy to find traces (plus most gambling related stuff need KYC nowadays).
I bet they are just taking their chances to use the law to recover their losses since this kind of incident is really happening that hacker use someone bank account to purchase online or gamble.
Not really familiar with this but don't those generally tend to cost money? Plus, seeing as they got sentenced to jail it clearly seems that it cost them more than they thought it would probably be. Chances are they're just that ignorant of the law though, can't blame them, majority of the people are after all.

It is possible that the other person filed a counter-lawsuit which proved to be the case.  So this mother and son is sentenced into imprisonment due to the false allegation to the person involved.  But I think the penalty is too much since the defamation case under Nigeria is sentenced to 1- 2 year imprisonment[1]. Do they (mother and son) blame more than 3 entity on this case which resulted in at least 7 years of imprisonment?
Looked up cases of 7 years imprisonment and got Section 422 of their criminal code act . Not really sure if I got the right one though.
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Court sentences mother, son to 7 years imprisonment and what did they do? Court sentences mother, son to 7 years imprisonment


The mother and the son after gambling away 5.6 million naira, that is about $8,000. When the reality dawned on them, they gave false information in petition, accusing someone of fraudulently transferring the fund from their Opay account to the sport betting account without their authorization.

Could this be a case of making someone pay for what they didn't eat or a case of double standard.

Bet as you can sustain and not allow your emotions have a better part of you.


This is outright fraud and I am glad they are paying what they owe to the bank and to society for their behavior, and let this be a lesson for everyone, if you cannot afford to lose the money you are using to gamble then do not gamble, because regardless of how smart you think you are if you try something like this the bank and the casino will realize that you are lying, as they can easily find out if you are telling the truth or not by analyzing their records of your transactions, and if you are lying then you will find yourself in an even bigger problem which could have legal consequences.
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The mother and the son after gambling away 5.6 million naira, that is about $8,000. When the reality dawned on them, they gave false information in petition, accusing someone of fraudulently transferring the fund from their Opay account to the sport betting account without their authorization.

Could this be a case of making someone pay for what they didn't eat or a case of double standard.

Both the mother and son are fraudster because they just try to frame someone of stealing their money when they're the one wasting it. They should have just come out clean for gambling the money and losing all, but why will someone lose that amount.

Nigerian families don't make that much money due to the poor condition of their country's economy so why will someone gamble away millions. This people have to be punished severally so others can learn and not go around accusing people wrongly.
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Gambling should be your personal decision and not to be influence by anyone so you shouldn't be blaming anybody for your losses. If you're still blaming people for your loses when you gamble then you need to stop gambling immediately.
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So, they make an accusation without the real basis of their accusation and just made a fake accusation? Well, that's why gamblers are being thought of for something bad like this.
They can't stand on their own actions and they should be the ones responsible and accountable for this loss that they've made. I wouldn't find any fault with others if it's obvious that I'm the one at fault and lost money as I gamble. They wouldn't lose money in the first place if they have never gambled at all. It's a crazy statement and they'll for sure going to bring this false statement forever in their lives.
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This happens, but very few have such an attitude to reach the court and claim the loss tas fund transferred without their authorisation. Even I've done, but not this way. When I experienced my first big loss I wasn't able to accept it and I contacted the support team. With them I was pleading that I lost mistakenly, please help me. Can you refund atleast half of what I've lost and so on. Finally got the response you need to play responsibly, and if you've win big and if the gambling platform doesn't settle the winning what'll you say. Same had taken place, so don't be down. I can't help you, Gamble in a responsible way which is the response I received.
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Am very sure it was because they had lossed almost all the money that they came back to their senses. Otherwise, we wouldn't have learnt of such a news if they lost it all.
Seriously though, how can you blame someone other person for a loss you knowingly indulged?
The mother and son are just crying wolf to get some pity ceremony in their favour. Even if someone influenced their decision to gamble the money away, they wouldn't have if they weren't already gambling from an onset.

The thing is the mother and son blame someone of their wrong doings.  This is good as defamation on the part of the person being blamed of the said illegal funds movement which is none existing.

The judge should inquire as to why they are even laying blame on someone else, perhaps they want insurance or their mortgage is due somehow.  At least 7years would give them enough time to think about what they had done.

It is possible that the other person filed a counter-lawsuit which proved to be the case.  So this mother and son is sentenced into imprisonment due to the false allegation to the person involved.  But I think the penalty is too much since the defamation case under Nigeria is sentenced to 1- 2 year imprisonment[1]. Do they (mother and son) blame more than 3 entity on this case which resulted in at least 7 years of imprisonment?





[1] https://proguide.ng/punishment-false-accusation-nigeria
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I don't like the punishment or fine give  to them. It is not going to be in anyway effective. Their punishment could have been rehabilitation and community service.

I don't like the aspect of option of meagre fine aspunishment either. That is exactly my challenge on this crime that I can't get my head over with. Some punitive measures are just as good as not pronounced because they don't in any way measure with offenses. I have some issues with some legal system because I think a punishment is suppose to wade people off a certain crime, what is pecuniary fine of 150,000 (about $210) as option against a jail term of 7 years or a crime of squandering $8,000 do to prevent future perjurers in gambling crimes.
As far as I understand what I read at the link/News you posted their crime was only giving false information that's why they are offered that kind of punishment prison or bail out. But I don't know if the judge completely cancel all about of the gambling activity or maybe it's just all they have to pay for gambling and giving false information. But I don't completely understand the News though on why they have had an $8000 equivalent of Naira money on their account since they didn't mention anything about someone or is it their money and why would the authority had to punish them for gambling?
Is it illegal to gamble in their country?
There's a lot of information I want to know though but the article is just too small to read.

if you have read the article. the money is on their Opay account. and they falsely alleged that someone used that money for sportsbetting. but maybe based from the investigations of EFCC, they were giving false claims that someone used their money for gambling to get back the money. but in reality, they were the ones who gambled the money, hence, charged of bordering false information.
and both mother and son pleaded guilty for such charges. so yeah, they did use it for sporsbetting and lost, and was trying to get funds back by saying that someone used their account without authorisation to get the money.
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I don't like the punishment or fine give  to them. It is not going to be in anyway effective. Their punishment could have been rehabilitation and community service.

I don't like the aspect of option of meagre fine aspunishment either. That is exactly my challenge on this crime that I can't get my head over with. Some punitive measures are just as good as not pronounced because they don't in any way measure with offenses. I have some issues with some legal system because I think a punishment is suppose to wade people off a certain crime, what is pecuniary fine of 150,000 (about $210) as option against a jail term of 7 years or a crime of squandering $8,000 do to prevent future perjurers in gambling crimes.
As far as I understand what I read at the link/News you posted their crime was only giving false information that's why they are offered that kind of punishment prison or bail out. But I don't know if the judge completely cancel all about of the gambling activity or maybe it's just all they have to pay for gambling and giving false information. But I don't completely understand the News though on why they have had an $8000 equivalent of Naira money on their account since they didn't mention anything about someone or is it their money and why would the authority had to punish them for gambling?
Is it illegal to gamble in their country?
There's a lot of information I want to know though but the article is just too small to read.
Try to trace out about the currency being used is Naira which means that this one happened on Nigeria.
Did make out some few research about the gambling laws and regulations in Nigeria and i found this one.

The law distinguishes between games of skill (which are legal) and games of chance (which are illegal). Legal forms of gambling include the lottery, land-based casinos and sports betting, whereas roulette, dice games and non-skilled card games are considered illegal.
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This is one question that i do have in mind is that why they would be penalized on something that they do spend out? If this one pertains about playing on an illegal aspect
then its normal that they did really commit out some violation but of course they would be having that reasoning.
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