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Do you blame someone for your gambling losses?
No I don't blame anyone for my gambling losses. When I place a bet on a platform I participate in the bet with my own thoughts. I do not participate in betting on anyone's advice here. Earlier I participated in football match with big amount I took the help of my friend, he asked me to bet for best team PSG between two teams I took the bet but I lost there. I blamed him for this for a while, but later I realized he was not at fault, it was all my luck. So if you lose on the gambling platform then you should not blame this loss on anyone.
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I don't like the punishment or fine give  to them. It is not going to be in anyway effective. Their punishment could have been rehabilitation and community service.

I don't like the aspect of option of meagre fine aspunishment either. That is exactly my challenge on this crime that I can't get my head over with. Some punitive measures are just as good as not pronounced because they don't in any way measure with offenses. I have some issues with some legal system because I think a punishment is suppose to wade people off a certain crime, what is pecuniary fine of 150,000 (about $210) as option against a jail term of 7 years or a crime of squandering $8,000 do to prevent future perjurers in gambling crimes.
As far as I understand what I read at the link/News you posted their crime was only giving false information that's why they are offered that kind of punishment prison or bail out. But I don't know if the judge completely cancel all about of the gambling activity or maybe it's just all they have to pay for gambling and giving false information. But I don't completely understand the News though on why they have had an $8000 equivalent of Naira money on their account since they didn't mention anything about someone or is it their money and why would the authority had to punish them for gambling?
Is it illegal to gamble in their country?
There's a lot of information I want to know though but the article is just too small to read.
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The amount they loss is big and they were trying to create false accusation to retrieve the fund back. Whom did they even accused? Was it the casino company or the representative  (sportbook maker)? The bookmarker is innocent of the accusation because the money did not directly enter the person's account but the casino's company account.

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The EFCC, in a statement issued on Wednesday, said Oluwayemisi and Joshua squandered the sum of N5.6 million on sports betting and caused a false petition to be sent to the EFCC, alleging that the money was fraudulently withdrawn from their Opay account to a sports betting account by an unknown individual without their authorisation.

Having an independent analysis from this point on quote, by inference, it could appear there is a third party who perhaps had access to the bank account where they alleged the money was pulled out. I'm just making a legal deduction from " and caused a false petition to be sent to the EFCC,......" because it appears they wrote the petition to the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC) who perhaps investigated with preponderance of evidence against them to find out they used the money themselves.
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I think they need to visit the psychiatric hospital to check if they are mentally stable and correct because I wouldn't see where a reasonable man or individual would gamble with such huge amount of money to win something big. Did they in any way knows the magnitude of what they are doing and that isn't enough also accusing someone else for illegally transferring such huge amount to their bet account. Is she insane or what, didn't they know the implications of gambling with such amount of money?
You are right on your suggestion of taking both of them to a psychiatrist for a mental check instead of sentencing them to the wall of the prison because that will have a more negative impact on their mental well-being and could possibly ruin their life in the long run.

What they both need is rehabilitation and not jail because that is a pours case of gambling addiction and mental unbalance.

Before this would results to this extents i believe they have been doing this for long and this could be their last attempts and it got purged on them, you know whenever a criminal is being caught red handedly they always said is their first time.
If this is an addiction then it must be a chronic one for that matter. I don't expect a Nigerian woman to go this far in gambling to an extent initiating the Son to gambling as well instead of giving the child a good and quality education she ended up luring him to be a gambler.
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I never expect to blame anyone when I have to lose, especially when I am the absolute decision maker in a bet. I very seldom have someone bet for me, and probably never in most cases. Blaming other people when they lose is something that may not make sense in many cases, but in different cases, of course, there is a reason why they deserve to be blamed. In gambling, some people blame the casino for their losses. There's a lot of weird stuff going on, sometimes it doesn't even make sense.
Agree, bro.

Who has the intention to gamble?
If we gamble with our own intention, it is funny to blame other people. Losing during gambling is our own responsibility, we don't need to blame others.

People who blame others or casinos for their losses, can't control their emotions and can face reality. These types of people must stay away from gambling, they can't understand what gambling is.
^ Definitely right.
Gambling is a personal choice and it comes with risks. It is important to take responsibility for our own actions and not blame others for our losses. Blaming others or casinos for our losses shows a lack of emotional control and an inability to face reality, it should be blaming no one. I think individuals who struggle with understanding the nature of gambling avoid it altogether. It is important to remember that gambling should be done responsibly and within one's financial means.
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The mother and the son after gambling away 5.6 million naira, that is about $8,000. When the reality dawned on them, they gave false information in petition, accusing someone of fraudulently transferring the fund from their Opay account to the sport betting account without their authorization.

This is nothing but a last resort made by both the son and the mother in order to escape their liability from it. The fact still remains that they gambled- this constitutes prima facie evidence that they are liable with their actions. They cannot just transfer such liability to someone in which they cannot prove to the court.

Everyone, this is a case where gambling addiction destroyed the lives of these two (2) people. This is the reason on why suffering from this kind of activity is not only dangerous but it can absolutely destroy your future. That is why, if anyone is suffering from addiction, acknowledge that you are and seek help from your family.
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Court sentences mother, son to 7 years imprisonment and what did they do? Court sentences mother, son to 7 years imprisonment

The mother and the son after gambling away 5.6 million naira, that is about $8,000. When the reality dawned on them, they gave false information in petition, accusing someone of fraudulently transferring the fund from their Opay account to the sport betting account without their authorization.

Could this be a case of making someone pay for what they didn't eat or a case of double standard.

Bet as you can sustain and not allow your emotions have a better part of you.



Like mother like son, I wonder who lured the other to gamble, they are both compulsive gamblers when you're in court you cannot lie because you are under oath, and if the court found that you are lying you will be charged with contempt, you can lie anywhere but never in court.
Compulsive gamblers are compulsive liars too but they have to plead guilty to lessen the sentence,
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The mother and child pleaded guilty to the charges.
because if they continue to lie it will be a longer prison time, longer than the court handed them, but seven years is still a long prison term.
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I never expect to blame anyone when I have to lose, especially when I am the absolute decision maker in a bet. I very seldom have someone bet for me, and probably never in most cases. Blaming other people when they lose is something that may not make sense in many cases, but in different cases, of course, there is a reason why they deserve to be blamed. In gambling, some people blame the casino for their losses. There's a lot of weird stuff going on, sometimes it doesn't even make sense.
Agree, bro.

Who has the intention to gamble?
If we gamble with our own intention, it is funny to blame other people. Losing during gambling is our own responsibility, we don't need to blame others.

People who blame others or casinos for their losses, can't control their emotions and can face reality. These types of people must stay away from gambling, they can't understand what gambling is.

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How can two persons be so addicted to gambling that they'll go to such an extent? Apparently the mother is definitely not a good role model to the son. The son definitely needs a strong father figure which is what he lacks. I don't like the punishment or fine give  to them. It is not going to be in anyway effective. Their punishment could have been rehabilitation and community service.
A pretty amusing tale I wonder how they even came up with such a lame idea of trying to convince the company that they were scammed. That is why they say the rotten apple does not fall far from its tree anything the son ends up doing is definitely from the mother what was supposed to be frowned upon is now encouraged by the mother. Both the mother and son gamble with such an amount of money and with the fraudulent character they deserve to be sent to jail. wonder what lead to such addiction.
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I never expect to blame anyone when I have to lose, especially when I am the absolute decision maker in a bet. I very seldom have someone bet for me, and probably never in most cases. Blaming other people when they lose is something that may not make sense in many cases, but in different cases, of course, there is a reason why they deserve to be blamed. In gambling, some people blame the casino for their losses. There's a lot of weird stuff going on, sometimes it doesn't even make sense.
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as much as I agree that they should be punished for what they did but I think that the jail time they got was quite excessive. I mean, 7 years in prison!?

Could this be a case of making someone pay for what they didn't eat or
basically yeah, they tried to blame some unknown person for what happened and hoped that they'd get their money back because of the supposed "fraudulent act" that had happened

a case of double standard.
would you mind elaborating on the highlighted part?

Bet as you can sustain and not allow your emotions have a better part of you.
quite sad that a lot of gamblers are having a hard time following this kind of mindset.
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I don't see this as "double standards", this is literally just mismanagement of funds and fraudulently trying to take it back. All because they couldn't stop when they had the chance. They did the crime, they do the time I say. Countless people experiencing injustice as those who have legitimately lost their funds due to scam gambling sites and these mother and son duo had the cajones to defraud the casino and make an ass out of their sorry selves? Yeah that's a well-deserved punishment in my book.
I think they need to visit the psychiatric hospital to check if they are mentally stable and correct because I wouldn't see where a reasonable man or individual would gamble with such huge amount of money to win something big. Did they in any way knows the magnitude of what they are doing and that isn't enough also accusing someone else for illegally transferring such huge amount to their bet account. Is she insane or what, didn't they know the implications of gambling with such amount of money?
Not gonna go against this. As with some people in this thread I agree with them being institutionalized in hopes of curing them of their addiction, but they should still do the time. I heard rehabilitation could be done in the jail too, so no excuses.
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I feel so bad after reading that story. I couldn't believe that parents could be involved with their children in this sort of gambling. Jesus Christ! The money was so huge that the mom could even have discouraged the son to only gamble with a small amount of that money, and at least they would have used some of it for more useful things.

@wiwo, I think I agree that you are correct with the thing you said about them taking some substance that can mess with their sense of reasoning, but again, will the mom and son be taking those substances together so that they both cannot even have a good sense of reasoning at the same time? By the way, it's even more shocking that this kind of story happened in Nigeria.
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That’s a clear fraud, spending the money that is not yours without authorization and that is not a gambling loss to the owner of the money, technically the funds was used for the activity of the Mother and the Son.

You cannot blame someone though if you give the consent to use your money for gambling, because in the end there’s no guarantee return in gambling. If you want to enjoy your money, then better to gamble on your own.
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this is a great example of two people addicted to gambling and how the addiction can lead people to do the most absurd things, when the person has relatives like these two the person suffers throughout his life and only rests on the day he dies, it is difficult or even impossible for a gambling addict to be cured, this disease destroys the life of the addict and everyone around the addict, in this case of this mother and her son even when they are released they will play again and will get involved in problems, in my opinion the court should have asked a psychologist to analyze the two to determine if they are not addicted to gambling and if so they should be sentenced to spend some time in the hospital to undergo treatment and should only leave when they are cured

unfortunately in africa the brain of the judges and many people of the law institutions is very limited, it is obvious that this is a case of gambling addiction, but the judgment was very limited in knowledge about gambling and so it did not help much in this case, he only applied the penalty as if he were judging a normal case of fraud and did not analyze the reasons that led these two to do this, if the judge had investigated more deeply about the behavior of these two then he would have reached the conclusion that they are addicts in gambling
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It bothers me the extent people would go to satisfy their gambling urge. It bothers me that people are in denial of their gambling addiction and instead of seeking help they are looking for who to pass the blame on to. There should be severe punishment for stupid people like this. They should have their own court where these cases would be judged. I know that out there are even more gambling addicts doing the worse
Good thing that they do able to spent out $8000 but if you do live on a 3rd world country and you do able to spend out that much money then you would really be suffering a long time payment
out of your day job if in case it would be able to be that amicable but we know that it isnt something that shouldnt really be tolerated. Its true that there are more other gambling addicts
did really able to done something much worst than this.

Lets put up some nasty rankings or list on here.

1. David Bradford Lost £500,000 in 30 Years
2. Michelle Singlehurst Gambled £550,000 in 3 Years
3. Sharon Who Stole from Her Daughter’s Piggy Bank
4. Viktor Gjonaj Who Faces 20 Years in Prison and $19m in Losses
5. Aaron Traynor Who Struggled with Addiction Since 13

.... and  so on.
https://www.gamblingnews.com/blog/gambling-addiction-stories/

It would really be that just so worst if you do really tolerate out that addiction of yours or simply you dont have
that good control towards yourself.
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Court sentences mother, son to 7 years imprisonment and what did they do? Court sentences mother, son to 7 years imprisonment


The mother and the son after gambling away 5.6 million naira, that is about $8,000. When the reality dawned on them, they gave false information in petition, accusing someone of fraudulently transferring the fund from their Opay account to the sport betting account without their authorization.

Could this be a case of making someone pay for what they didn't eat or a case of double standard.

Bet as you can sustain and not allow your emotions have a better part of you.
So they can avoid 7 years of jail for paying total something like $700 worth of naira? That's insane! I don't know which is more insane, that both got 7 years per person for giving false information about $8000 worth of naira or you can pay off fraction of that to avoid jail. Those options are hardly symmetric. Are these kind of sentences a common in nigeria?

I once blamed my friend when he called me during roulette and i missed my bet that would have won. But i wasn't even serious as i knew it was my fault. And it's hardly in same category.
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It bothers me the extent people would go to satisfy their gambling urge. It bothers me that people are in denial of their gambling addiction and instead of seeking help they are looking for who to pass the blame on to. There should be severe punishment for stupid people like this. They should have their own court where these cases would be judged. I know that out there are even more gambling addicts doing the worse
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Wow this story really got me cracking up because I know how unfair that country can be and there are possibilities that who has the highest money has more chances of winning the case and one thing is certain that no matter how hard we try to push blames of losses on others, nature will always have it to tell in you especially when you gamble with money you can't afford to lose and I see no reason why one should gamble so hard that they forget to know when they get off hook and most times chasing after losses is one thing that keeps peole off their checks
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I think they need to visit the psychiatric hospital to check if they are mentally stable and correct because I wouldn't see where a reasonable man or individual would gamble with such huge amount of money to win something big. Did they in any way knows the magnitude of what they are doing and that isn't enough also accusing someone else for illegally transferring such huge amount to their bet account. Is she insane or what, didn't they know the implications of gambling with such amount of money?
If not that the case has already been judged d d d by a court of legal jurisdiction I could have said that more investigation should be done about the posible mental state of both mother and son, because a lot of people in Nigeria are not mentally stable and due to intake of one of two substance it has affected their sense of reasoning and in essence lead them into bigger troubles.

You are right on your suggestion of taking both of them to a psychiatrist for a mental check instead of sentencing them to the wall of the prison because that will have a more negative impact on their mental well-being and could possibly ruin their life in the long run.

What they both need is rehabilitation and not jail because that is a pours case of gambling addiction and mental unbalance.
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