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Topic: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. - page 347. (Read 734937 times)

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Some of the protesters were just collecting information about people having dual citizenship (other than the Russian citizenship). It turned out that most of such people had dual Ukrainian-Israeli passports. And the Jewish media (especially the ones from Israel) created such an issue out of it.
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http://rt.com/news/ukraine-dual-citizenship-jail-572/

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Denis Viktorovich 22.03.2014 03:22
Wait a moment... But Yats is a dual citizen - Ukraine and Israel. What happens to him? Is he going to go to jail?

Pretty Please?..


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Eduardo 03.03.2014 13:44
On this way,, Mr Klitchko and his radical neo-naci bandits have to put more than 22 milion Ukraines into the prison. Don't you see, that they are just clowns and bandits. They have no any political qualifications , their own motto is : to beat people, and to burn buildings. And now Mr. Klitchko go ahead and arrest 22 milion dual citizens , I JUST WANT TO SEE how would you do that. , he is nothing but a clown.

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Air superiority? Where did that come from?It's already a war taking part there or what?
Don't tell me the rebels already have planes and manned airports Smiley

If the situation worsens anymore, then the civil war will break out at full force. No. The rebels don't have any planes or airports under their control. But what is the need for that? Look at what happened yesterday. The Kiev nazis sent in the APCs and Tanks to crush the protesters. What happened after that? The soldiers defected to the protesters, along with the APCs and tanks. The same will happen with the fighter jets.
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Despite some outside similarity between two Ukrainian protests – the Maidan [Euromaidan] and the so-called separatist demonstrations in eastern Ukraine now taking place, they are radically different, starting with the fact, that pro-Russian/separatist protests almost entirely lacked the peaceful phase, say political scientists.

“Let’s remember one thing: for two months, people stood on the Maidan absolutely unarmed and demanded punishment for those guilty of beating students on Nov. 30 – Dec. 1. By contrast, in the easternmost oblasts, we are seeing militants in Russian uniforms and gear, shooting and taking over the government buildings,” Ukrainian political scientist Oleksiy Haran told BBC Ukraine.

http://euromaidanpr.com/2014/04/17/maidan-vs-pro-russian-protests-find-the-differences/
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Russian assault troops formation on Ukrainian border; joint exercises of Belarus and Russian airborne units.
According to the "Information resistance" group, coordinated by Dmitry Tymchuk, the formation of Russian assault troops began in the border regions of Russia and Ukraine, in particular, near the Kharkiv, Chernihiv and Sumy regions, in the vicinity of the state border.
Earlier today, Russian President Vladimir Putin said, "the Federation Council of Russia granted the president the right to use armed forces in Ukraine. I very much hope that I will not have to exercise this right, and we will be able to solve all the sharp, if not most pressing problems of today in Ukraine by political and diplomatic means. "
According to Putin, the ethnic and national composition of the south-east of Ukraine is not totally clear. He acknowledged that the situation is different from that in Crimea. "We know exactly what we need to do to help these people to defend their rights and to independently determine their own destiny, and we will fight it," - Putin said.
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Maverick MiGs? Ukraine jets give low fly-by to defiant cities
http://rt.com/news/fighter-jet-banzai-attack-112/

What? The idiots are going to bomb the resistant cities? Just because they have one $hitty airfield in Kramatorsk, that doesn't mean that they have the air superiority. Already the people in Donetsk are angry after the Mariupol incident. If any more lives are lost ,then the things will get really out of control. So my advice to Kiev would be not to stir up the hornet's nest.

Air superiority? Where did that come from?It's already a war taking part there or what?

Don't tell me the rebels already have planes and manned airports Smiley
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Resistan cities as same as Crimea > Footage of Russia's annexation of Crimea. The crucial moment may have been the first one: The night-time storming of Crimea's parliament and government buildings on 27 February 2014, by "unknown" special forces. The rest was a piece of cake. 

http://video.i.ua/user/515461/72008/423420/
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Maverick MiGs? Ukraine jets give low fly-by to defiant cities
http://rt.com/news/fighter-jet-banzai-attack-112/

What? The idiots are going to bomb the resistant cities? Just because they have one $hitty airfield in Kramatorsk, that doesn't mean that they have the air superiority. Already the people in Donetsk are angry after the Mariupol incident. If any more lives are lost ,then the things will get really out of control. So my advice to Kiev would be not to stir up the hornet's nest.
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Maverick MiGs? Ukraine jets give low fly-by to defiant cities
http://rt.com/news/fighter-jet-banzai-attack-112/

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The Ukrainian army is ramping up psychological pressure on regions engulfed in anti-government protests. The skies over cities in eastern Ukraine are resounding to the roar of attack helicopters and fighter jets.

Ukraine imposes harsh entrance restrictions on male Russian citizens - Aeroflot
http://rt.com/news/ukraine-entrance-restrictions-russia-168/

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NATO/US wants Ukraines new discovered gas fields thats all

NATO is after the Ukrainian coal mines and the agricultural sector. Ukraine is having one of the most fertile soils in Europe. The newly discovered gas field will take at least another 15 years to get developed.
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NATO/US wants Ukraines new discovered gas fields thats all
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The list of the dead from yesterday's attack at Mariupol:

All are Ukrainian nationals. So what the NATO and the US has to say about this? Even the liars of BBC has been constantly saying that only some of the protesters are locals.

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That one is preposterous! A bank advertising offering money to kill people!  Shocked Undecided
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http://rusvesna.su/news/1397732118

Kazakh businessman Ermek Taychibekov offers a million rubles for Kolomoysky's head.
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That made me laugh Smiley , about the duty exports.

My information comes from someone who is living in Eastern Ukraine.


I laughed because Russia has a tax on imports from Ukraine Smiley.


Really? 1/6. Do they really work for 60$ /month ?

Not $60, but $200. That is the average wage of a coal miner right now, after the devaluation of the UAH.


And an average chinese coal worker does 1200?

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That made me laugh Smiley , about the duty exports.

My information comes from someone who is living in Eastern Ukraine.

Bribes will continue , are you going tos ay there are no bribes in Russia? Let's not start with this please.

May be. But on a lesser scale.

But if the average pay for a worker is 1/6 why aren't any factories being built there already?

The other expenses are too high. That is why.

Really? 1/6. Do they really work for 60$ /month ?

Not $60, but $200. That is the average wage of a coal miner right now, after the devaluation of the UAH.
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So some factory owner will just pay it's workers 3 times the wages and not move the factory to another country Smiley)).
That why we have all those factories in china and that's why some chinese one are moving to vietnam.

If you remove the taxes (one of the highest in the world) and other unwanted expenses (such as bribes, duty on exporting their products to Russia, Excise duty on gas and oil), then automatically their wages will increase.

And one more thing. An average worker in the Eastern Ukraine is paid about 1/6th of the salary of a factory worker in China. So don't worry about the companies migrating to China.

That made me laugh Smiley , about the duty exports.
Bribes will continue , are you going tos ay there are no bribes in Russia? Let's not start with this please.

But if the average pay for a worker is 1/6 why aren't any factories being built there already?
Really? 1/6. Do they really work for 60$ /month ?

Some links to back this claim?
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So some factory owner will just pay it's workers 3 times the wages and not move the factory to another country Smiley)).
That why we have all those factories in china and that's why some chinese one are moving to vietnam.

If you remove the taxes (one of the highest in the world) and other unwanted expenses (such as bribes, duty on exporting their products to Russia, Excise duty on gas and oil), then automatically their wages will increase.

And one more thing. An average worker in the Eastern Ukraine is paid about 1/6th of the salary of a factory worker in China. So don't worry about the companies migrating to China.
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I bet on the 9th of May 2015 , their situation will be the same ( living standard i mean).

If they join Russia, then their living standards would definitely change for the better. Pensions and salaries will increase by many times, and they will qualify for generous welfare benefits such as the maternity capital.

And those money will come from?
Why would salaries increase just because they are not under Ukraine rule?

Will their productivity increase out of the blue? =)))))

Now really , this Russian propaganda about wages and pension is just disgusting.

First of all, it will come from their salaries. To put it simple, currently they are either paid a fraction of what their labour really brings in to the owners, or they are not paid at all. You are forgetting that factor. Their productivity might also increase, if they feel more motivated by actually receiving salaries.

So some factory owner will just pay it's workers 3 times the wages and not move the factory to another country Smiley)).
That why we have all those factories in china and that's why some chinese one are moving to vietnam.
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