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Quote from: delfastTions on Today at 04:34:38 AM

Yeah, the player's skill for obvious reasons automatically increases the chances of winning or at least prolongs the time spent in the game, if the player is still playing for the long term. And I think that as the player gains experience in the game, almost any player in any case becomes more cautious and careful. Therefore, he stops doing stupid and too risky gaming actions.
And this is precisely one of the elements of the attraction of gambling - this happens when the number of wins gradually begins to increase.

I believe that skills can increase the chances of winning but that does not guarantee that you can win easily, many people who I think are quite good at having skills in one type of gambling but I am sure that people like this cannot get profit consistently, the victory that is obtained is only occasionally and is also uncertain with the amount.

Someone who gambles blindly I think they will get a bad incident and from that they can get experience to be used as a lesson in the future so as not to repeat the same thing.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 28, 2024, 10:28:05 PM

When we talk about success, it should be viewed as a long-term process. Some of us may not see ourselves betting long-term, which makes it hard for them to relate to this concept. If someone is just betting for fun, they likely won’t be well-versed in the terminology of sports betting, as their interest is quite limited. In contrast, those who genuinely want to win will study the sports betting market and seek ways to succeed, even if the chances are slim.

Not having to bet for fun but rather, bet consistently for a long term no matter the results because that’s what makes a successful gambler on the long term, having relatable concepts, did I get those right? Because I think it would be one means to push people towards being addicted and compulsive gamblers. That’s exactly what gamblers shouldn’t be. That’s why you’re asked by most of the casinos out there to play responsibly. Because they understand the issues that could be associated with gambling addiction.
You don’t need to gamble consistently to be successful at gambling, you just need to pick a niche of the markets and be good at it.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on Today at 03:20:57 PM

I tend to lay off things that mass amount of people are betting on. Usually the odds become worse for the same likely outcome. And 2 if the masses always won then casinos wouldnt be around for so long. So its likely you will lose your whole stack well before you win out. Generally speaking though i dont normally check what everyone is doing so it wont skew my thought process when placing bets.

Nobody should tell you how you should bet or not to bet, betting against the public can give you a bigger odd and more money when you win hence you can bet against the public and still be fine. Betting against the public in sport betting is when the majority of the bets are going for the inform club to win but you decided to go with a different approach and that'll be both teams to score or you bet on the numbers of goals in the game.

You can also give the win to the team that looks the weakest but you have already done your research before betting and you don't have to always follow the crowd or we can't make bigger amounts of money. Gambling is a risk hence we should already be informed that we're not going to see our money again and be contended with what we have already won.

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Quote from: GeorgeJohn on Today at 04:11:52 PM

To be i feels bettors should not see betting to be something they do for fun if success is what they want,and moreso they should consider it to be a long-term process because anything that worth value should be something we should allow time to tells its success as the day goes by.Bettors should not bet against themselves rather they should bet against the public so as to counter their opinions or perception towards the way they see bettors,most of them tends to see any person who play bet to be a failure or a looser base on the consistent loosing bettors have been experienced.At this point I want to urge bettors to see betting as a long-term process so that they'll be able change those negative thoughts public perceived about them

Mate the truth be told, betting shouldn't be taken for the long term as you make it look, mate, you make it sound as if betting can be an investment or a career that requires long-term participation to produce positive results, betting both now and in the future can not provide any positive results other than just loses and loses, this should be noted and why we advocate that we gamble or bet just to have fun and if the winning comes along the way, so be it; but we should build the mindset of making money from gambling since we are gonna lose more than we win.

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To be i feels bettors should not see betting to be something they do for fun if success is what they want,and moreso they should consider it to be a long-term process because anything that worth value should be something we should allow time to tells its success as the day goes by.Bettors should not bet against themselves rather they should bet against the public so as to counter their opinions or perception towards the way they see bettors,most of them tends to see any person who play bet to be a failure or a looser base on the consistent loosing bettors have been experienced.At this point I want to urge bettors to see betting as a long-term process so that they'll be able change those negative thoughts public perceived about them

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 28, 2024, 10:28:05 PM

The public here mainly consists of bettors who tend to bet on the favorites, whether it’s point spread or moneyline. Most suggestions we see online emphasize that to be considered a smart bettor, you should bet against the public. But what if we don’t bet against ourselves? Can we still find success in sports betting?

When we talk about success, it should be viewed as a long-term process. Some of us may not see ourselves betting long-term, which makes it hard for them to relate to this concept. If someone is just betting for fun, they likely won’t be well-versed in the terminology of sports betting, as their interest is quite limited. In contrast, those who genuinely want to win will study the sports betting market and seek ways to succeed, even if the chances are slim.

I tend to lay off things that mass amount of people are betting on. Usually the odds become worse for the same likely outcome. And 2 if the masses always won then casinos wouldnt be around for so long. So its likely you will lose ypur whole stack well before you win out. Generally speaking though i dont normally check what everyone is doing so it wont skew my thought process when placing bets.

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Quote from: Olatundespo on January 15, 2025, 11:07:35 AM

A gambler must be realistic so that he can apply his money properly and have alternative sources of income along with entertainment and hobbies while betting.

That's right, that's why I always advise thinking about some other hobbies. After all, the most important thing is that even in case of failure it would be possible to gain valuable experience that will help in the future to move success closer to you. For example, in business or self-employment. But in gambling and betting it is almost impossible to draw conclusions after failure, on the contrary, after failure you want to play with increased force, and it is very difficult to force yourself not to think about the loss. I am talking about tilt, which overtakes many gambling lovers.

It is true, frequent victories give the player false hopes and confidence that he has reached the peak of his professionalism and will now earn money on this, this is the main trap. And if there is something else to change your focus of attention to and you correctly emphasized if there is a hobby or other types of activities, then it is unlikely that the player will fall into this abyss. The balance of the game and life is the basis.

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Quote from: Lannakosa on January 16, 2025, 09:15:39 AM

In gambling, you can bypass this idea that losses must necessarily lead to big losses. If there is a need for gambling, then you can clearly define the budget that you can use for gambling, let it be $50 per month, and spending more than this amount per month is prohibited. And even better, try to set yourself a goal to double this deposit, so that you focus on winning, not just on spending this money, then perhaps you will not have to spend $50 every month.

I think you may be thinking from another perspective but it still falls back at the fact that gambling done recklessly will still lead to that same losses, but when planned and strategically applied, then accountability comes in and you can be able to account for it at almost every point as you go along with your activities gambling so mainly it's just you taking charge and responsibility of the gambling habit you have chosen to engage in Already and not trying to probably be reckless about and expecting more.

I think op should have a rethink because gambling in support of the public is not always profitable because there are times when things could go contrary to what the public opinion was. It is better you gamble based on your analysis so whatever happens will be cool for you because you were the one that took the bet. Taking the appropriate risk is what we should keep up with rather than trying to impress the public by supporting and gambling in such direction.
Gambling in our own way especially when such pattern has been tested to be profitable will yield faster profits than joining the public to bet on a single game without scrupulous consideration.

I simply agree with you, in each fixture there is always a set winner from the general perspective, that reference isn't as solid until the fixtured is played and done. Staking based on personal observation is the best, each platforms are now open to different odds to pick from, it must not necessarily be one that everybody agrees.

Not letting anyone interfere when picking your options is best, i have lost money because i compromised what i felt and yielded to that of someone else, it was a regretful experience because my pick played just within some minutes into the game, since then i do whatever in silence and my facts are drawn personal.

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Quote from: Lannakosa on January 16, 2025, 09:15:39 AM

In gambling, you can bypass this idea that losses must necessarily lead to big losses. If there is a need for gambling, then you can clearly define the budget that you can use for gambling, let it be $50 per month, and spending more than this amount per month is prohibited. And even better, try to set yourself a goal to double this deposit, so that you focus on winning, not just on spending this money, then perhaps you will not have to spend $50 every month.

I think you may be thinking from another perspective but it still falls back at the fact that gambling done recklessly will still lead to that same losses, but when planned and strategically applied, then accountability comes in and you can be able to account for it at almost every point as you go along with your activities gambling so mainly it's just you taking charge and responsibility of the gambling habit you have chosen to engage in Already and not trying to probably be reckless about and expecting more.

When you plan a certain thing, it is like you are aiming for something. So with such careful planning, the tendency is to respect your financial constraints and so not playing when you are already in the red alert level of funds.
Bear in mind that at the end of the day, you are the one who will suffer the consequences. So it is your responsibility to take care of your funds and not the others. Set your limit for the day or for the session and stick to it no matter what. I can understand some desires will kick in but you need to remember the reason why you are playing and your financial constraints before it is too late for you.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 28, 2024, 10:28:05 PM

The public here mainly consists of bettors who tend to bet on the favorites, whether it’s point spread or moneyline. Most suggestions we see online emphasize that to be considered a smart bettor, you should bet against the public. But what if we don’t bet against ourselves? Can we still find success in sports betting?

When we talk about success, it should be viewed as a long-term process. Some of us may not see ourselves betting long-term, which makes it hard for them to relate to this concept. If someone is just betting for fun, they likely won’t be well-versed in the terminology of sports betting, as their interest is quite limited. In contrast, those who genuinely want to win will study the sports betting market and seek ways to succeed, even if the chances are slim.

If you win a large sum of money or get a jackpot prize in any casino because you got lucky, can this be considered successful? Because I know that often those who suddenly become rich because of playing gambling are just the lucky ones who did not expect to win.

Because whoever else always relies on luck is the one who always ends up losing, right?

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Quote from: Lannakosa on January 16, 2025, 09:15:39 AM

In gambling, you can bypass this idea that losses must necessarily lead to big losses. If there is a need for gambling, then you can clearly define the budget that you can use for gambling, let it be $50 per month, and spending more than this amount per month is prohibited. And even better, try to set yourself a goal to double this deposit, so that you focus on winning, not just on spending this money, then perhaps you will not have to spend $50 every month.

I think you may be thinking from another perspective but it still falls back at the fact that gambling done recklessly will still lead to that same losses, but when planned and strategically applied, then accountability comes in and you can be able to account for it at almost every point as you go along with your activities gambling so mainly it's just you taking charge and responsibility of the gambling habit you have chosen to engage in Already and not trying to probably be reckless about and expecting more.

I think op should have a rethink because gambling in support of the public is not always profitable because there are times when things could go contrary to what the public opinion was. It is better you gamble based on your analysis so whatever happens will be cool for you because you were the one that took the bet. Taking the appropriate risk is what we should keep up with rather than trying to impress the public by supporting and gambling in such direction.
Gambling in our own way especially when such pattern has been tested to be profitable will yield faster profits than joining the public to bet on a single game without scrupulous consideration.

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Quote from: Lannakosa on January 16, 2025, 09:15:39 AM

In gambling, you can bypass this idea that losses must necessarily lead to big losses. If there is a need for gambling, then you can clearly define the budget that you can use for gambling, let it be $50 per month, and spending more than this amount per month is prohibited. And even better, try to set yourself a goal to double this deposit, so that you focus on winning, not just on spending this money, then perhaps you will not have to spend $50 every month.

I think you may be thinking from another perspective but it still falls back at the fact that gambling done recklessly will still lead to that same losses, but when planned and strategically applied, then accountability comes in and you can be able to account for it at almost every point as you go along with your activities gambling so mainly it's just you taking charge and responsibility of the gambling habit you have chosen to engage in Already and not trying to probably be reckless about and expecting more.

Basically, of course, everything that is done rashly and unmeasured will certainly tend to give bad results, I'm not saying that gambling will always be able to give you victory when you do it right because basically we never know about what actions are right and wrong that can produce something that is in accordance with expectations and I think that's a natural thing in gambling.
In my opinion, it is a fact that in gambling, planning is more likely to succeed when the planning leads to prevention aspects such as minimizing the possibility of too much loss.
The point is, never try hard to implement various things that aim to make more money because in the end it will only make you lose more money, especially if you are involved in a type of casino game that is based on luck.

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Quote from: Lannakosa on January 16, 2025, 09:15:39 AM

In gambling, you can bypass this idea that losses must necessarily lead to big losses. If there is a need for gambling, then you can clearly define the budget that you can use for gambling, let it be $50 per month, and spending more than this amount per month is prohibited. And even better, try to set yourself a goal to double this deposit, so that you focus on winning, not just on spending this money, then perhaps you will not have to spend $50 every month.

I think you may be thinking from another perspective but it still falls back at the fact that gambling done recklessly will still lead to that same losses, but when planned and strategically applied, then accountability comes in and you can be able to account for it at almost every point as you go along with your activities gambling so mainly it's just you taking charge and responsibility of the gambling habit you have chosen to engage in Already and not trying to probably be reckless about and expecting more.

When it comes to not gambling recklessly, or avoiding reckless gambling, there are rules set for gamblers, and this rules must be adhered to, choosing to do things differently is one of the reasons why we have so many gambling addicts in our societies today.

It's like living in a country where there are already established rules that people living in that country must adhere and live by, but one comes into that country and decides to invent his or her own rule to live by, different from the rule that has been established generally for all the citizens, that person if he or she is not extremely careful will find him or herself in prison in no time.

Adhering to all the rules of responsible gambling is the best way to gambling peacefully without worrying about getting ourself into Financial issues or becoming addicted.

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Quote from: Lannakosa on January 16, 2025, 09:15:39 AM

In gambling, you can bypass this idea that losses must necessarily lead to big losses. If there is a need for gambling, then you can clearly define the budget that you can use for gambling, let it be $50 per month, and spending more than this amount per month is prohibited. And even better, try to set yourself a goal to double this deposit, so that you focus on winning, not just on spending this money, then perhaps you will not have to spend $50 every month.

I think you may be thinking from another perspective but it still falls back at the fact that gambling done recklessly will still lead to that same losses, but when planned and strategically applied, then accountability comes in and you can be able to account for it at almost every point as you go along with your activities gambling so mainly it's just you taking charge and responsibility of the gambling habit you have chosen to engage in Already and not trying to probably be reckless about and expecting more.

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Predicting the outcome is generally a complex and extremely confusing matter. This process involves logic, knowledge of the history of previous matches and their outcome, intuition, advice from outsiders, and the mystical component of prediction also has an impact. So it is generally impossible to say who and how makes the decision on bets on some next matches. By the way, bets are always made on two opposite results. And this means that someone made a decision opposite to yours. And his decision was somehow motivated and justified by himself.

This is exactly why some persons will holding to the point of view that gambling is more of skill than luck because what you are describing is a skill based and dependent predictions, meanwhile if you don't get lucky you can still loose but literally skill increases your chances and makes it more reasonable for you to gamble, the fact that you need to be lucky doesn't completely takes out the place of skill and logic to apply to your gambling prowess.

Yeah, the player's skill for obvious reasons automatically increases the chances of winning or at least prolongs the time spent in the game, if the player is still playing for the long term. And I think that as the player gains experience in the game, almost any player in any case becomes more cautious and careful. Therefore, he stops doing stupid and too risky gaming actions.
And this is precisely one of the elements of the attraction of gambling - this happens when the number of wins gradually begins to increase.

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Quote from: bubilas on January 16, 2025, 07:28:33 AM

Quote from: Olatundespo on January 15, 2025, 11:07:35 AM

A gambler must be realistic so that he can apply his money properly and have alternative sources of income along with entertainment and hobbies while betting.

That's right, that's why I always advise thinking about some other hobbies. After all, the most important thing is that even in case of failure it would be possible to gain valuable experience that will help in the future to move success closer to you. For example, in business or self-employment. But in gambling and betting it is almost impossible to draw conclusions after failure, on the contrary, after failure you want to play with increased force, and it is very difficult to force yourself not to think about the loss. I am talking about tilt, which overtakes many gambling lovers.

It is difficult not to think about the losses which is why we must always be careful with the bets that we will make. Also, put a limit on the deposit, I think that's the best way to control everything. If we know ourselves and we are true to what we will do, we will not keep on depositing just to get revenge and chasing the losses.
Still, there's no assurance in betting on where most people are. But if we do see the percentage of winning than losing, most favorites do win and that's because there's already analysis input in it although we cannot really tell what the future will bring. I've seen some crazy odds of underdogs winning, some of them are shocking and I got to ride those bets.

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Quote from: delfastTions on January 09, 2025, 11:57:13 PM

Predicting the outcome is generally a complex and extremely confusing matter. This process involves logic, knowledge of the history of previous matches and their outcome, intuition, advice from outsiders, and the mystical component of prediction also has an impact. So it is generally impossible to say who and how makes the decision on bets on some next matches. By the way, bets are always made on two opposite results. And this means that someone made a decision opposite to yours. And his decision was somehow motivated and justified by himself.

This is exactly why some persons will holding to the point of view that gambling is more of skill than luck because what you are describing is a skill based and dependent predictions, meanwhile if you don't get lucky you can still loose but literally skill increases your chances and makes it more reasonable for you to gamble, the fact that you need to be lucky doesn't completely takes out the place of skill and logic to apply to your gambling prowess.

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Indeed, if you can allocate spare money for gambling just to satisfied your lust as part of your entertainment then it will not harm you in terms of your finances, though just like what you said, there are gamblers who think differently hoping for some luck to back them up and treat gambling as their financial means, which most of the time lead them suffering from huge loses, if you can change that perceptions and continue to use gambling as means of enjoyment then there's no issue or whatsoever.

Either you are betting with the public/favorite or you are against as long as you use money that you can afford to let go, it won't hurt you and will not build any problem for you.

In gambling, you can bypass this idea that losses must necessarily lead to big losses. If there is a need for gambling, then you can clearly define the budget that you can use for gambling, let it be $50 per month, and spending more than this amount per month is prohibited. And even better, try to set yourself a goal to double this deposit, so that you focus on winning, not just on spending this money, then perhaps you will not have to spend $50 every month.

A good mindset to keep pushing in learning ideas where you can make your deposit to grow and extend your stay, it's better to have that goal in order not to add more money in bankroll as it will become a problem sooner or later as you'll keep depositing more money instead of having that allocated budget for your gambling.

and just the same, you'll the one that will dictate your fate playing against public or sometimes you'll be going riding with them as long as you know what's your doing and you are confident doing it then you are good to go..

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Long term betting or short term betting are two completely different things. Whether you bet long-term or short-term depends entirely on your conscience. You will achieve success in betting, there is no specific reason and it can be seen that you are able to earn a good profit due to various analytical reasons. I think short term anything is volatile so you have a better chance of succeeding or making more profit with long term bets.

Betting success depends on various factors as well as our own constructive planning.

You are right that both are different long-term and short-term. Constructive planning may work for the short term but for the long term, no plan can work. Especially when anyone plays in a casino there is no way to maintain loss/profit on gambling and there is no alternative way against it.

The uncertainty of the results is the main reason why in gambling there is no such thing as consistency in terms of results whether it is about winning or losing, both come randomly and there is nothing that can be used as a reason why at that time you won or why at that time you lost, that is what is meant by probability in gambling, therefore I will say that in gambling the only planning that will be useful in the long term is planning that leads to prevention such as applying limits to the amount of bets, time of involvement and expectations of victory in order to minimize the amount of loss so that it is not too large. And also so far I have never heard of a gambler who has succeeded in achieving success in gambling, I understand you have a chance to get a big win but after all it only happens once in a while, the point is gambling is an activity that is full of uncertainty, there is no way to always win and there is no guarantee that you will win at that time no matter how hard you try.

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Quote from: bubilas on January 16, 2025, 07:28:33 AM

Quote from: Olatundespo on January 15, 2025, 11:07:35 AM

A gambler must be realistic so that he can apply his money properly and have alternative sources of income along with entertainment and hobbies while betting.

That's right, that's why I always advise thinking about some other hobbies. After all, the most important thing is that even in case of failure it would be possible to gain valuable experience that will help in the future to move success closer to you. For example, in business or self-employment. But in gambling and betting it is almost impossible to draw conclusions after failure, on the contrary, after failure you want to play with increased force, and it is very difficult to force yourself not to think about the loss. I am talking about tilt, which overtakes many gambling lovers.

Hobby are positive activities and usually have good impact on each individual, it is unimaginable whether gambling will be worthy of being called hobby even though some people also consider them to gamble because of hobby and this is quite funny, I agree with you that everyone even those who like to gamble should have another hobby that can really entertain and provide refreshment to the mind and mood.
Sometimes those who have hobbies such as several types of sports will be able to make it an escape, as an illustration when someone experiences failure then they can switch to doing what they like such as playing golf, or football and so on to entertain themselves and keep them from continuing in gambling when there is series of failures.

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