Topic: Don't bet against the public? - page 4. (Read 3293 times)

Element of luck will always be there but unfortunately, we don't know when our luck come and we can only waits while playing gambling. But it is not good if you takes too long in gambling just to wait your luck come because that can makes you lose too much money. The casino will takes your money if you lose control so it is why casino will gives so many betting events and let the public makes their analysis while the casino just wait and see who will lose their money.

With a little amount of money, you will not feels regret especially if you betting against public because you know that the outcome can change but the loss will be there. If you think that betting against the public can give you the win, you can do that but don't use too much money as the situation can change in the middle of the game.

Congratulations for you as you are the one of the lucky people who can win mostly. We know that winning in gambling is difficult and not many people can get their win but only lose their money. Maybe you can't say that you have winrate higher but you are indeed a lucky person that often win in gambling.

Yes, I also prefer to spends lots of time to analyze and make 1-2 bets. That will be safe for me as I don't spend too much money to betting. I can keep the other money for the other days so I don't have to deposit again.

Correct. It is difficulty for me to understand something that i don`t control, but i understand, that it is unusual situation and it means that something is wrong, and i don`t know what is it. So i prefer to ignore such bets - my first goal is not to lose, the second goal is to win. It would be better for me not to lose than to win with high risk.


I mostly win I can`t say that i have very high winrate, but combination winrate+odds allows me get stable profit from gambling. Except some gambling experiments which are interesting for me.
I`m not venturesome, so i prefer to spend lots of time for analyze and make 1-2 bets than make 10 bets without analyze.  And of course in such terms my analyze skill becomes better.

Of course it is very difficult if a Casino game is already in the dealer's setting, of course it will not be easy to beat if you only rely on luck or gambling skills, remember the purpose of gambling is not to seek wealth or pleasure but only to have fun with a little capital but enjoy the game, it is useless if we expect continuous luck or make a strategy in gambling if in the end only the player gets defeat.

It seems to me that the calculation of the odds that the casino makes is a rather complicated and confusing procedure. It is certainly quite cunning and hidden. However, the main purpose of this calculation, which you mentioned, is clear. But the element of chance and luck, including with competing bookmakers, affects not only the players, but also the casino itself, which to some extent equalizes the chances of winning and even sometimes your big win. So, in my opinion, everything happens relatively honestly here, unless of course you take into account the bookmaker's margin, which is usual in these cases.

Yeah, but the thing is that even with an expert level of knowledge and skills, there is always going to be an element of luck.

And the casinos create the odds of the betting events so that they end up winning more money in average.

If you use a lot or a little amount of money, the odds don't really change. The expected outcome is to lose money, so if you keep gambling, you will eventually run out of money, independent of how much you gamble on each bet.

Analysis will be our key to have the choice that we can picks. We don't have to afraid with our skill that may not be good because if we can learn more and more, we will have a better skill to analyze. Everything needs time to develop a better skill so we must have patience in learning the analysis and find the sources of the information. With better skill, you will know what is your choice, whether if that is bet against the public or follow what public bet but the important thing is you don't use too much money to gambling.

Perhaps yeah!
Two types of knowledge are mixed into the same and unambiguous decision on the bet only in some cases, which can be called obvious. But when logic and intuition begin to conflict, then apparently some players give preference to logic, and some (probably such players are still fewer) give preference to intuition. Probably you belong to the type of players who still trust logic more.
I think that indeed among these players there are more of those who play with the best results for themselves. And win accordingly more.

Sometimes our experience and logic tell us what to do, we don`t think about it ourselves and call it intuition. Someone call it luck, someone call it intuition. When we do something we got experience and some knowledge, it accumulates and one moment we do it without any thoughts. It`s like walking - we don`t think how to put legs to make next step. But even in such way i prefer to avoid such bets. It seems(for me)  that two types of my knowledge thinks differ and it means that a chance of losing grows up.

It is very important moment. Always our analyze depends on information we can get. So i try to check information using different sources if it is possible. And save the most truthful of them for long use.

Yes, it is better to analyze by ourselves because that can help us to improves our skills in analyzing the match. We don't have to think about the prizes but we can focus to learn the analysis so that will makes us better. Maybe that will hard for us but that still not waste our time because we can get something from what we do.

Analyzing the match could be interesting if we can get the right sources. So we don't have to give up if we can not pick the right choice that can win because we still have much time to win in the future especially when we can improve our skills.

In the context of the discussion, it's not about copying someone else's bets. Rather, it's that your analysis aligns with most other bettors, which is why you're called 'the public.' Betting against the public means you're different from the majority. This isn't applicable to all games; it's specific to sports betting. If you do a quick research or if you're a sports bettor, you'll definitely come across these sayings.

Well, of course, intuition is such a rather strange and changeable substance of the human psyche, which of course is developed over years of life experience and outcome and similar or close situations in the past. Well, and memory here, of course, has a strong meaning. But naturally, you can’t trust intuition, you can only listen to its advice. Well, and then, of course, you need to focus on logic. However, in some cases, neither logic nor intuition work as you need. As a result, you lose the bet, but of course, you also gain experience for the future. And it is important that the bet is not too big.

Many gamblers are lost, they don't find their own path in gambling space, they failed to understand themselves first, instead they choose to copy what others around them are doing, especially if one of their neighbours wins some significant amount of money.

Whatever you do in this gambling space don't matter, the most important thing is understanding yourself first, find your own way, before this will be revealed to you, it is important to know how to take risk in the minimal manner, gambling is all about try and see, you don't want to keep using what you can't afford to lose in anything that is try and see, the damage will be too much.

I don't care about what anyone says, this is my own way of understanding gambling, copy someone else and pay the price, what will work for you will likely fail others.

Like it or not, but that's what will happen, whoever we bet on, but if we are lucky then we will win and if we are not lucky then we will lose. There are 2 choices, win or lose and in those two choices luck has a big role to determine whether we will win or lose, so in this case the results we get are influenced by luck not from how we bet against the public or go in the same direction as the public.
Several times I won when the public bet on the opposing team faced, also often I lost when I bet on the team that was bet a lot by the public.

You can use someone`s experience and follow advices, but if you don`t understand why such bet was chosen - one time you would lose. And the result mostly would be losing all the bankroll. And of course it is more interesting to check your own predictions.

Some time ago it was a period when i was betting for money. There were 2-3 men, who predicted games, but the odds were mostly 3 or higher. It was interesting and profitable experience, but it is rare opportunity to find such groups. The same time, it is really difficult for common gambler to follow such a rhythm. Wake up every 2-3 hours, often without making a bet due to low odds.

Sometimes majority of the bettors are biased or maybe influenced by the popular opinion or social media tactics so betting against the public could be profitable. But always remember, this is gambling and this is always what happens, sometimes you need to be part of the public to have a successful streak in betting.

example in sports, you really need a good analyzation for those teams, if you really want to chase that win, you'll go deep on that but for fun, this is not needed. We also sometimes rely on good odds so betting against the public isn't really a top tier tactic for betting, it's just one of the commons.

We can analyze and strategize to no end but someone who just randomly picked a random bet and got lucky can still beat you lol. It seems too harsh and unfair but that’s gambling. You either luck out or not. As per the public being right, it doesn’t happen always. Sometimes the public even have the most braindead takes because they might not be as credible to analyze an event since they just do not have an expertise to that. Bias can also play a huge part. Experts are still the best source.

Some people don't have a passion for gambling to begin with but after they see the public influence of 'let's say he saw a streamer who won a large amount' then it will lead others to try even though there was no intention of gambling in the first place.
How not the influence of the streamer has a big impact on other people who watch it sometimes think if they follow the gambling game there is confidence to win even though that is not necessarily.

Indeed, it's better to do your own analysis and harvest the fruith of your success, though some gamblers use to copy someone's strategy or they might be following what's the public is betting with but in terms of enjoyment it's more enjoyable if you are winning decently using your own knowledge, it gave you idea if how much amount you'll going to spare, it might be depends on factors that you consider when placing your bets, it weights the confidence if you see how good the team or player that you'll going to support

to beat other people or bookies is not the goal of gambling, besides it is better not to have the goal of making money in gambling. Although there is indeed an opportunity to get profit in gambling, it is better for us to have a goal such as just looking for entertainment by gambling not to make money and I think you yourself know why it is not recommended to have the goal of making money in gambling.
We must be able to have our own limits and good responses to what will happen with the results later, lose or win the results we must be able to accept it well the goal is to stay in a safe state.

I think that initially it is a very bad guideline - to go against the majority. In gambling, the goal is not to beat other people.
 The main goal of gambling is to win and get money. And it does not matter whether the majority did the same or not. It does not matter who to bet on - the favorite or the underdog, the main thing is to bet on those who will win, and it does not matter how much or little money will be won later.