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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on October 30, 2024, 02:52:09 PM

I bet in two ways, it's either I take my time to analyze my games when I am free before I place my bet or I take the predictions of my friends. When making predictions, I usually make use of every possible strategy that defines if the team am betting on has the capacity to win or not.

That strategy of taking games from your friend—do they refer to that as a strategy or just take game to place bet with the hope of winning something out of it if you're lucky enough?

Even if I take a game from someone, I do spend my own time to analyse them and make out my own edit, which is why in some cases you can see two people who share a game, one winning and the other losing due to the little edit that was done in that bet slip.

Taking games from someone and winning the game is not and can not be called a strategy because you are not the actual person that did predict the game. However, even if you win through the game your friend gave to you it means your friend and you are both lucky.
Moreover, even if my friend gives me a game I will not be bothered to check and edit it because I believed that the person takes his/her time to predict it. And again, most edited games end up cutting so it's better to play the game exactly the way it was given to you.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 28, 2024, 10:28:05 PM

The public here mainly consists of bettors who tend to bet on the favorites, whether it’s point spread or moneyline. Most suggestions we see online emphasize that to be considered a smart bettor, you should bet against the public. But what if we don’t bet against ourselves? Can we still find success in sports betting?

When we talk about success, it should be viewed as a long-term process. Some of us may not see ourselves betting long-term, which makes it hard for them to relate to this concept. If someone is just betting for fun, they likely won’t be well-versed in the terminology of sports betting, as their interest is quite limited. In contrast, those who genuinely want to win will study the sports betting market and seek ways to succeed, even if the chances are slim.

It doesn't seem like that op, because for me, I'm also one of those who believe that winning at the casino here in the cryptocurrency business is really just luck, I don't believe that the reason you win in gambling is because of the skills you do of a gambler, I doubted on that to be honest.

It's like, if you don't bet you won't know if you'll win or lose, and if you bet you'll experience winning and losing for sure, that's why usually what happens in casinos is that
players lose most of the time.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on October 30, 2024, 02:52:09 PM

I bet in two ways, it's either I take my time to analyze my games when I am free before I place my bet or I take the predictions of my friends. When making predictions, I usually make use of every possible strategy that defines if the team am betting on has the capacity to win or not.

That strategy of taking games from your friend—do they refer to that as a strategy or just take game to place bet with the hope of winning something out of it if you're lucky enough?

Even if I take a game from someone, I do spend my own time to analyse them and make out my own edit, which is why in some cases you can see two people who share a game, one winning and the other losing due to the little edit that was done in that bet slip.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on November 01, 2024, 06:52:48 AM

Quote from: viljy on October 31, 2024, 04:52:23 AM

Exactly. But without insider information, all these analyses and assumptions will be nothing more than ordinary guessing - in most cases. Therefore, a more reliable tactic would be a lot of small bets against the crowd. This will give you a better chance of winning than several large bets, as if deliberate on the basis of analysis...

If you’re gambling with 100% success, you must have insider information... man, this is gambling on predictions; there’s nothing like that because it’s impossible to get that level of access unless we sell our souls to the devil, you know what I mean? I mean, the big syndicates...no, no, we’re just regular punters trying to find a unique method that could be an effective gambling strategy.

Of course, it makes no sense to say or plan to get inside information, because surely the casino has thought about this before your mind gets there, and if this method can be relied on, then surely many casinos have gone bankrupt in a short period of time, meaning the idea of having an insider to get information about which choices are right and which choices are wrong will never happen.

On the other hand, in general I think a gambler doesn't need to bother thinking about various things to increase the chances of winning because after all gambling will always be a risky activity which in simple terms I can say that there is no success or gambling can never be used as a place to make a lot of money.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on November 01, 2024, 06:52:48 AM

I mean, the big syndicates...no, no, we’re just regular punters trying to find a unique method that could be an effective gambling strategy.

We can’t operate at that level...it’s too risky, that’s the criminal world.

Betting against the public could be effective, and I emphasize “could be,” because it only works if done right. Blindly following it will still lead to losses. If you’re sticking with that principle, that’s fine, but always back it up with data. No team would intentionally lose or rig a game and risk their careers.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 28, 2024, 10:28:05 PM

The public here mainly consists of bettors who tend to bet on the favorites, whether it’s point spread or moneyline. Most suggestions we see online emphasize that to be considered a smart bettor, you should bet against the public. But what if we don’t bet against ourselves? Can we still find success in sports betting?

When we talk about success, it should be viewed as a long-term process. Some of us may not see ourselves betting long-term, which makes it hard for them to relate to this concept. If someone is just betting for fun, they likely won’t be well-versed in the terminology of sports betting, as their interest is quite limited. In contrast, those who genuinely want to win will study the sports betting market and seek ways to succeed, even if the chances are slim.

Most of the time, I bet with the majority because, for me, it’s the best decision. If we're bettors aiming to win, it only makes sense to choose the option with the highest chance of success. After all, why would we go for the slim chance when there's a better one right there?

Of course, we still need to analyze the situation, and there are times when going against the majority feels right. But let’s always remember that, even if it seems right to us, in gambling, it can still end up being wrong.

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Quote from: viljy on October 31, 2024, 04:52:23 AM

Exactly. But without insider information, all these analyses and assumptions will be nothing more than ordinary guessing - in most cases. Therefore, a more reliable tactic would be a lot of small bets against the crowd. This will give you a better chance of winning than several large bets, as if deliberate on the basis of analysis...

If you’re gambling with 100% success, you must have insider information... man, this is gambling on predictions; there’s nothing like that because it’s impossible to get that level of access unless we sell our souls to the devil, you know what I mean? I mean, the big syndicates...no, no, we’re just regular punters trying to find a unique method that could be an effective gambling strategy.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 30, 2024, 06:14:16 AM

The thing is, we can’t access insider info, especially when betting on big leagues.

Exactly. But without insider information, all these analyses and assumptions will be nothing more than ordinary guessing - in most cases. Therefore, a more reliable tactic would be a lot of small bets against the crowd. This will give you a better chance of winning than several large bets, as if deliberate on the basis of analysis...

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Quote from: nara1892 on October 30, 2024, 03:43:25 AM

I think our opponent is not the perspective and decision taken by the public but the opponent of the team we choose, and maybe I can also say that it is better not to involve the public in this matter, because winning in sports betting depends on how smart and how intelligent you are in analyzing a team that will compete, and also because sometimes the decision chosen by the public is not always the right decision or I mean many of them make decisions in choosing a team without being based on any consideration and analysis.

So don't think about them, focus on your own bet, don't involve the public when you are considering to reach a much more appropriate decision.
In the end, it all depends on whether you have good skills and knowledge or not about the sports betting you choose, because that's what will be more likely to bring you victory.

Absolutely true words, friend. The fact that a betting fan has a different opinion about the outcome of a match than many does not mean that he is playing against the crowd. Everyone plays against other outcomes, and makes decisions based on their experience and thoughts. Therefore, most likely, all this is a game against oneself. One's own misunderstanding, Deni and inability to analyze. And only by surpassing this can one receive Profit from betting. And what the crowd bets there is not important at all.

Yes of course which means that this issue should not be involved with the public perspective regarding what most people choose, because after all for the betting issue it is done individually in the sense that when you win you will get money and when you lose you will lose money, other people will not care about whatever you experience, and if we are talking about the public then of course it means that you are also one of them with the decision you choose.

So I think there is no need to involve something unnecessary, the results in a sports game depend on how much knowledge and how you analyze one of the two teams that will compete to produce a decision that is more likely to win, although I understand that luck is still an important factor.

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Quote from: Dunamisx on October 30, 2024, 04:37:21 PM

Quote from: HONDACD125 on October 29, 2024, 05:03:56 PM

You shouldn't care about what others think about a game or a team, your knowledge and analysis should be enough for you to make up your mind and decide which side you want to choose and why. If you think you are not capable enough of concluding yourself, I'm sorry to say this, but sports betting is not your thing, and you should probably either stop gambling or get into gambling games where you don't need to do anything other than deciding your betting amount and pressing a button.

Sports betting is only suitable for people who have a vast knowledge about sports, or one sport in specific that they can use to make their bets. If you are someone who isn't generally interested in sports, you can't be a sports bettor, and those with an interest in sports will always know what they should do in certain situations when it comes to making bets.

I use my money to bet and i should be able to determine on what do i bet on and why should i do so, betting against the public is not what we should always look at in a single direction and give it same usual interpretation because gambling is all about the way we see the the reality in what we are doing, how feasible is it and how realistic could it be if we should bet on them or against them.

Yeah, your own interpretation will help you to decide whether to bet against the public or if you should go with the favorite as long as you know the party that you'll be betting with then its your take and your responsibility to carry whatever will be the outcome, taking your side against the public might bring a huge amount of profits but most likely will also place you in a much riskier position, know your game and use spare balance would be the wise thing to do.

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against the public what do you mean? if I place a bet does that mean I am against the public? if yes not all are serious in betting, you are just not confident in the bets you make you think like this maybe because of a series of defeats

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Quote from: HONDACD125 on October 29, 2024, 05:03:56 PM

You shouldn't care about what others think about a game or a team, your knowledge and analysis should be enough for you to make up your mind and decide which side you want to choose and why. If you think you are not capable enough of concluding yourself, I'm sorry to say this, but sports betting is not your thing, and you should probably either stop gambling or get into gambling games where you don't need to do anything other than deciding your betting amount and pressing a button.

Sports betting is only suitable for people who have a vast knowledge about sports, or one sport in specific that they can use to make their bets. If you are someone who isn't generally interested in sports, you can't be a sports bettor, and those with an interest in sports will always know what they should do in certain situations when it comes to making bets.

I use my money to bet and i should be able to determine on what do i bet on and why should i do so, betting against the public is not what we should always look at in a single direction and give it same usual interpretation because gambling is all about the way we see the the reality in what we are doing, how feasible is it and how realistic could it be if we should bet on them or against them.

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Quote from: hahay on October 30, 2024, 03:12:45 PM

I think we can freely choose the available betting market, for me to win is not always betting on the favorite team, because sometimes non-seeded teams also succeed in making us get a very good win in betting. But indeed, it takes great courage if we want to bet against the public because after all, it is not easy to get the right mediocre team to bet against the public...

If you are an adherent to the low-risk game, then in this case you need to bet on the favorite. Of course, in this case, the winnings will be small, but the risk of losing the deposit will also be minimal. If you decide to take a risk and bet on an outsider, you can break a big win, but the risk of losing your deposit will be maximum in this case.

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I think we can freely choose the available betting market, for me to win is not always betting on the favorite team, because sometimes non-seeded teams also succeed in making us get a very good win in betting. But indeed, it takes great courage if we want to bet against the public because after all, it is not easy to get the right mediocre team to bet against the public. But yes, back to my writing at the beginning that we have the freedom to determine the choice, so whatever the choice is on the favorite team or choosing the non-seeded team is free. Because after all, the most important thing in betting is to be ready for the worst risk, because then we will be fine even though in the end we get a loss.

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As a gambler or bettor, you can't decide to always bet against the public, the same way you can't always decide to bet with the public. There is no law that you always have to bet on the favourite, you bet on the person or team you feel or think will win. There are times when you can decide to go against the favourite and times when you decide to go with the favourite

Take the last El classic game for example, the favourite was Real Madrid and the whole world expected Madrid to win, but I knew Barcelona would win that game and I went with Barcelona. I didn't want to risk much because it was certain and that made me not fund my rollbit account that much.
Going against the public is not something that should be done often because it's not often the favourite loses. It has to be calculated.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 28, 2024, 10:28:05 PM

The public here mainly consists of bettors who tend to bet on the favorites, whether it’s point spread or moneyline. Most suggestions we see online emphasize that to be considered a smart bettor, you should bet against the public. But what if we don’t bet against ourselves? Can we still find success in sports betting?

When we talk about success, it should be viewed as a long-term process. Some of us may not see ourselves betting long-term, which makes it hard for them to relate to this concept. If someone is just betting for fun, they likely won’t be well-versed in the terminology of sports betting, as their interest is quite limited. In contrast, those who genuinely want to win will study the sports betting market and seek ways to succeed, even if the chances are slim.

A lot have succeeded in this space actually and they didn't have to follow up with too many terms rather they worked on discipline of their own terms which became their roadmap to succeeding in this space, it's only when you don't have the Patience to exercise some level of discipline, you most likely suffer too many losses often resulting from your impatience and Indiscipline them begin to tend towards addiction.

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I bet in two ways, it's either I take my time to analyze my games when I am free before I place my bet or I take the predictions of my friends. When making predictions, I usually make use of every possible strategy that defines if the team am betting on has the capacity to win or not.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 28, 2024, 10:28:05 PM

The public here mainly consists of bettors who tend to bet on the favorites, whether it’s point spread or moneyline. Most suggestions we see online emphasize that to be considered a smart bettor, you should bet against the public. But what if we don’t bet against ourselves? Can we still find success in sports betting?

When we talk about success, it should be viewed as a long-term process. Some of us may not see ourselves betting long-term, which makes it hard for them to relate to this concept. If someone is just betting for fun, they likely won’t be well-versed in the terminology of sports betting, as their interest is quite limited. In contrast, those who genuinely want to win will study the sports betting market and seek ways to succeed, even if the chances are slim.

Sports betting is always a zero-sum game. If you win, someone else loses (and vice versa - if someone else wins, you lose).

There is a saying (hard cynical humor) - "If you're gambling and can't figure out who's the fool, then you're the fool." This is another formulation of a zero-sum game.

Therefore, I agree with the statement that when betting on sports, you need to play against the crowd (the public). This is especially true for fixed sports competitions, since in this case the event with the lowest probability occurs.

At the same time, the crowd (the public) bets on the event with the highest probability (in the opinion of the crowd (the public), who is not aware that the match is fixed and everything is predetermined in advance).

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Quote from: leonair on October 30, 2024, 10:28:04 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 28, 2024, 10:28:05 PM

The public here mainly consists of bettors who tend to bet on the favorites, whether it’s point spread or moneyline. Most suggestions we see online emphasize that to be considered a smart bettor, you should bet against the public. But what if we don’t bet against ourselves? Can we still find success in sports betting?

When we talk about success, it should be viewed as a long-term process. Some of us may not see ourselves betting long-term, which makes it hard for them to relate to this concept. If someone is just betting for fun, they likely won’t be well-versed in the terminology of sports betting, as their interest is quite limited. In contrast, those who genuinely want to win will study the sports betting market and seek ways to succeed, even if the chances are slim.

Since no one can guarantee winning in gambling, it is always better to bet according to your own prediction, at least it will have better excitement and more fun. I like to always agree with my predictions. Even if you lose in gambling, at least you get a lot of joy. When you bet on other people's predictions, you won't get much pleasure from winning that bet. So to get fun from gambling it is definitely better to bet on your prediction.

Actually in a winning situation it will still be fun regardless of whether you bet with your own decisions or rely on other people's decisions, but of course I would also suggest that it is better to bet in your own way and predictions, the reason is because when you bet in your own way and predictions then there is a possibility for you to avoid continuous curiosity, or I mean I once bet by relying on other people's predictions, but I was not sure about the prediction and one of the reasons I chose it was just because I saw that many people rely on these predictions which in the end when they lose it creates emotions and also regrets by assuming like "if only I bet with my own predictions then maybe the result would win".

But on the other hand if your goal is for entertainment and seeking pleasure then in my opinion actually betting using other people's predictions or in your own way will not cause problems because when your goal is for pleasure then that means winning is not the main priority.

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On the contrary, there are people who actually gamble for fun that still play sports betting, I disagree based on the fact that you generalized this. There are also people who are versed in sports and can analyse games properly but they play for fun only, they take sports betting as a passive routine. People are different and we all have different choices, some gamblers choose not to play for fun and not to make profit so that they won't get addicted to them, others can't really play actively because they are engaged with other things that keeps them occupied, There are gamblers that play sports betting actively but are not inclined with sports.

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