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November 03, 2024, 05:29:34 AM
I bet in two ways, it's either I take my time to analyze my games when I am free before I place my bet or I take the predictions of my friends. When making predictions, I usually make use of every possible strategy that defines if the team am betting on has the capacity to win or not.
That strategy of taking games from your friend—do they refer to that as a strategy or just take game to place bet with the hope of winning something out of it if you're lucky enough?
 
Even if I take a game from someone, I do spend my own time to analyse them and make out my own edit, which is why in some cases you can see two people who share a game, one winning and the other losing due to the little edit that was done in that bet slip.
Taking games from someone and winning the game is not and can not be called a strategy because you are not the actual person that did predict the game. However, even if you win through the game your friend gave to you it means your friend and you are both lucky.
Moreover, even if my friend gives me a game I will not be bothered to check and edit it because I believed that the person takes his/her time to predict it. And again, most edited games end up cutting so it's better to play the game exactly the way it was given to you.

This reminds me of how I lost in a game that was given to me by a friend just because I felt I came in to football betting before him and at such I should know more better but trust me that doesn't really works that way, anyone predictions stand certain level of chances of winning, even experts picks has no guarantee, I edited the games my friend gave me by adding more games and changing some options but to my greatest surprise he got lucky that week his games played out and when he asked me if I played the game or not I lied that I didn't play the game because my predictions goes against me because of that I have learned not to edit games given to me by another person, rather I will play it the same way and as well play another separate slip predicted by me.
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November 03, 2024, 04:58:42 AM
If we are taking bets, we should always consider our own personal reason for taking that bet, that same reason will be what we are going to use in determining for which side or on what should we gamble for, because this is all about our money and how we want to have it spend on gambling bet, the choice we made will determine the outcome of the bet we are playing and we wont be disappointed if we already made the right decision.
Not just that, we can also tell ourselves that we made our own choice so if ever that bet loses, it doesn't hurt much because we didn't rely on someone else or whatever the public is trying to force on us.
I think it's better that way because we will not blame anyone for our mistake and if ever it wins, it also boosts our confidence to make our own decisions on our next bets. We can always use the odds and the favorites as a basis for our own analysis but at the end of the day it will be all up to us and you are right, it is our own money so we better maximize the chance to win rather than just relying on another analysis or prediction.
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November 03, 2024, 04:38:04 AM
The public here mainly consists of bettors who tend to bet on the favorites, whether it’s point spread or moneyline. Most suggestions we see online emphasize that to be considered a smart bettor, you should bet against the public. But what if we don’t bet against ourselves? Can we still find success in sports betting?
I think I get you, you mean betting in the reverse pattern, right?

I saw a similar strategy here last year but it was quickly rebuked by me and many others, it's not just feasible. We often think that due to our losses why not do things in the opposite? But I tell you that doing things in the opposite will even make you lose more.

If it's casino games you are referring to, you can't beat the system programmed in it, and if it's sports betting you are referring to, we have many options and the bettor's attitude matters too, so there is no holy grail anywhere. The only uniqueness here is our strategy, discipline and management, they can preserve our responsible gambling.
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November 02, 2024, 02:38:36 PM
Sometimes the public get things wrongly that’s gambling for everyone either favorite or most active teams they’re times the public choice fail.

As long as we’re dealing with gambling where the prediction is coming from the masses or not, the chance of it being correct is never 100% even when a big team is playing against a very small team the chance of them winning is still never 100% - there are times when upsets happen and we’d get results that we never expected to get.

The public are also making predictions just like you- so sometimes it’s possible for them to predict rubbish.
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November 02, 2024, 02:19:29 PM
That kind of emotions most of the time turns a gambler to deeper problem, when you regret a lot the chance that you might push yourself to play back repeat that same mistake, as you will keep following your instinct that luck will permits you, those who aim for bigger amount of winnings will place their bets against the public, if you aim high better to make sure that you have a full control of your emotions just in case things won't turn to your favor you can quickly move forward and forget about what happened.
many people who experience losses and other negative impacts are usually because they lose control and this loss of control begins with those who are emotional because they get results that are not in accordance with their expectations. besides that people like this usually put high hopes on a bet they make by thinking they can get a big win and make them go home with a bag full of money, but when emotions are out of control they will most likely only regret the behavior they previously did because it will make them continue to bet again and again.

You are right, we must be able to see ourselves, whether we are ready to lose what we bet or not because those who experience emotions are usually the type of people who are not ready to lose with their bets that are made until the defeat that occurs triggers their emotions and makes them lose control of themselves.
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November 02, 2024, 01:06:25 PM
A crucial part indeed as each decisions have a counter outcome, you need to make sure that you deal on it correctly either following the public or betting against the favorite in hope that if you timingly place your bet you'll be able to win decently, though betting against the public means playing against the favorite and placing your fate with the underdog, it's up to your good judgements if you win then you'll collect decent to huge amount if you lose time for you to move forward.
Sometimes, whether betting against the public or not, luck still determines when betting. Indeed, maybe if the public or even the odds are more inclined to bet on one side, then most people will choose to follow it in the hope that the chances will be much greater. but the results? Still no one will know for sure, in the end yes yes really lucky can get the results.

that's why, whether we bet following the public or against the public, the point is we must be ready for the risk of possible loss. whether it ends up winning or losing, yes must be ready for the risk of losing. and the most important thing is also not to let us feel very regretful about whatever we have decided, because regret is useless in gambling., losing is still losing, and regret will only worsen the mood and burden of mind.

That kind of emotions most of the time turns a gambler to deeper problem, when you regret a lot the chance that you might push yourself to play back repeat that same mistake, as you will keep following your instinct that luck will permits you, those who aim for bigger amount of winnings will place their bets against the public, if you aim high better to make sure that you have a full control of your emotions just in case things won't turn to your favor you can quickly move forward and forget about what happened.
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November 02, 2024, 11:27:06 AM
Exactly. But without insider information, all these analyses and assumptions will be nothing more than ordinary guessing - in most cases. Therefore, a more reliable tactic would be a lot of small bets against the crowd. This will give you a better chance of winning than several large bets, as if deliberate on the basis of analysis...

If you’re gambling with 100% success, you must have insider information... man, this is gambling on predictions; there’s nothing like that because it’s impossible to get that level of access unless we sell our souls to the devil, you know what I mean? I mean, the big syndicates...no, no, we’re just regular punters trying to find a unique method that could be an effective gambling strategy.
Any gambler that do have an insider and still believes that all the informations given to him her from the insider are 100% accurate will probably stake more than he can afford to lose and this is what makes many gambler wreck because of over confidence in a game.
However, no matter the kind of information you have and the source it comes from we should also know that anything can happen in gamble, so the best thing to do when staking is to risk what we can afford to lose. Although, when one feels that the informations is 100% that the same seconds greed comes in and make the gambler to stake high.
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November 02, 2024, 05:27:20 AM
I bet in two ways, it's either I take my time to analyze my games when I am free before I place my bet or I take the predictions of my friends. When making predictions, I usually make use of every possible strategy that defines if the team am betting on has the capacity to win or not.
That strategy of taking games from your friend—do they refer to that as a strategy or just take game to place bet with the hope of winning something out of it if you're lucky enough?

It's not a strategy at all but if that's what it is for some players, I don't support it's a good strategy because if the original forecaster of that game lose, the copies will also lose. The only reason I copy friends is if there's no time to do my own analysis and I just want to try luck with other's game to see if I will win.
 
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Even if I take a game from someone, I do spend my own time to analyse them and make out my own edit, which is why in some cases you can see two people who share a game, one winning and the other losing due to the little edit that was done in that bet slip.

Yea, it's a wise idea and I have seen a case as the example you gave  but if I have all that time to look through the game, I had make all prediction myself.
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November 01, 2024, 06:26:27 PM
Sometimes the public get things wrongly that’s gambling for everyone either favorite or most active teams they’re times the public choice fail. Bet what’s more suitable for you likewise me, I will bet what I feel is best and still the public make good choice sometimes, it all depends on the game basically i don’t need much before knowing what to do concerning my favorite bet. Gambling experience only make things look worst from my point of view, if I should gamble consistently for research sake or learning I might get addicted in other ways which I never planned. I’m not saying consistency is wrong but I’m against the opinion that forcefully state it’s a must meanwhile we still have young gamblers winning with zero experience.
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November 01, 2024, 06:25:54 PM
A crucial part indeed as each decisions have a counter outcome, you need to make sure that you deal on it correctly either following the public or betting against the favorite in hope that if you timingly place your bet you'll be able to win decently, though betting against the public means playing against the favorite and placing your fate with the underdog, it's up to your good judgements if you win then you'll collect decent to huge amount if you lose time for you to move forward.
Sometimes, whether betting against the public or not, luck still determines when betting. Indeed, maybe if the public or even the odds are more inclined to bet on one side, then most people will choose to follow it in the hope that the chances will be much greater. but the results? Still no one will know for sure, in the end yes yes really lucky can get the results.

that's why, whether we bet following the public or against the public, the point is we must be ready for the risk of possible loss. whether it ends up winning or losing, yes must be ready for the risk of losing. and the most important thing is also not to let us feel very regretful about whatever we have decided, because regret is useless in gambling., losing is still losing, and regret will only worsen the mood and burden of mind.
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November 01, 2024, 06:14:03 PM
If we are taking bets, we should always consider our own personal reason for taking that bet, that same reason will be what we are going to use in determining for which side or on what should we gamble for, because this is all about our money and how we want to have it spend on gambling bet, the choice we made will determine the outcome of the bet we are playing and we wont be disappointed if we already made the right decision.
IMO.

It doesn't matter if I bet against the crowd and the odds. It's true that if we're taking bets, we have our own reasons for choosing that.

Just don't mind the others that are telling you should have placed bet on the opposing side so as them. It is your money to take care for and you shouldn't be easily influenced by anybody.
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November 01, 2024, 06:12:01 PM
If we are taking bets, we should always consider our own personal reason for taking that bet, that same reason will be what we are going to use in determining for which side or on what should we gamble for, because this is all about our money and how we want to have it spend on gambling bet, the choice we made will determine the outcome of the bet we are playing and we wont be disappointed if we already made the right decision.
As far as I know in gambling decision making are the must important part of it because when you don't have a personal say or right to make decisions towards your gambling moment you would see that you can easily be switched off from the gambling house or site by fellow. So standing on your decision and work towards is the most important and crucial part.

A crucial part indeed as each decisions have a counter outcome, you need to make sure that you deal on it correctly either following the public or betting against the favorite in hope that if you timingly place your bet you'll be able to win decently, though betting against the public means playing against the favorite and placing your fate with the underdog, it's up to your good judgements if you win then you'll collect decent to huge amount if you lose time for you to move forward.
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November 01, 2024, 04:48:53 PM
If we are taking bets, we should always consider our own personal reason for taking that bet, that same reason will be what we are going to use in determining for which side or on what should we gamble for, because this is all about our money and how we want to have it spend on gambling bet, the choice we made will determine the outcome of the bet we are playing and we wont be disappointed if we already made the right decision.
As far as I know in gambling decision making are the must important part of it because when you don't have a personal say or right to make decisions towards your gambling moment you would see that you can easily be switched off from the gambling house or site by fellow. So standing on your decision and work towards is the most important and crucial part.
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November 01, 2024, 04:46:19 PM
we don't gambling because of fun, we gambling in a way that we want to make money, many people misunderstood these concepts and I don't agree with people who basically focus on fun with gambling, if gamblers is 100 almost 75% people who gamble do gamble base on the interest of winning why 25% maybe considered gambling because of fun, majorly people that gamble because of funs  is the rich people and I believe that they are one that I can attest that they because of fun, but average people do use gambling as a source of living and that's why I do find it very difficult to consider or believe people who says that they gamble for fun.
It all depends on each perspective in this case although I also do not deny that in the end gambling is done only because we want to win but in the end we also cannot avoid that the sensation of gambling will feel exciting when we enjoy doing it.

So in this case it depends on the characteristics of ourselves in assessing whether it is only victory that we want to look for or indeed the fun that we really want to get, because after all, when only the benchmark is victory, of course we must be aware that in the end it can actually be ridiculous. Not to say bad but we must be aware that when we are looking for profit, gambling may not be the right place because in gambling conditions, of course, defeat will be found more than the victory obtained.
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November 01, 2024, 04:40:32 PM
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majorly people that gamble because of funs  is the rich people and I believe that they are one that I can attest that they because of fun, but average people do use gambling as a source of living and that's why I do find it very difficult to consider or believe people who says that they gamble for fun.
Yes, that's your opinion, and you are free to have an opinion,
but I gamble indeed for fun, but about the nominal used for gambling is certainly not much, and it is very little money.

People who gamble for fun are certainly not only rich people,
but include everyone who does not want to make gambling a place to make their main income.

It's just about having fun, playing to entertain yourself, playing slots with small bets to see how lucky we are with small bets made,
won't expect a big win, but if winning it's certainly luck.

But people who actually live from gambling to make a lot of money,
they are more serious and know better how the gambling system works.
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November 01, 2024, 04:20:21 PM
If someone is just betting for fun, they likely won’t be well-versed in the terminology of sports betting, as their interest is quite limited. In contrast, those who genuinely want to win will study the sports betting market and seek ways to succeed, even if the chances are slim.

It doesn't matter if you want to bet against the public or not. It's actually more wiser to follow the data not because someone or my the public speaks mor of the team. If you know very well that they aren't having good or better statistics in the past games then it will be better to follow your own idea about the games. For me I prefer better for fun as it isn't a long term thing. You can't always expect all your bets to have good out comes especially if we are still considering it to be a game of luck. We just have to familiarize ourselves with the games or sport we mostly bet on then know most of the teams , their strength and weaknesses. this will help us know what to bet on and who to..
we don't gambling because of fun, we gambling in a way that we want to make money, many people misunderstood these concepts and I don't agree with people who basically focus on fun with gambling, if gamblers is 100 almost 75% people who gamble do gamble base on the interest of winning why 25% maybe considered gambling because of fun, majorly people that gamble because of funs  is the rich people and I believe that they are one that I can attest that they because of fun, but average people do use gambling as a source of living and that's why I do find it very difficult to consider or believe people who says that they gamble for fun.
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November 01, 2024, 03:18:13 PM
If we are taking bets, we should always consider our own personal reason for taking that bet, that same reason will be what we are going to use in determining for which side or on what should we gamble for, because this is all about our money and how we want to have it spend on gambling bet, the choice we made will determine the outcome of the bet we are playing and we wont be disappointed if we already made the right decision.
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November 01, 2024, 03:10:25 PM
If someone is just betting for fun, they likely won’t be well-versed in the terminology of sports betting, as their interest is quite limited.

Why would I need that? Is the terminology going to help me win? I don't need to know any slogans, just when and where is my favourite team playing and if they're in good form. If they are not, I just won't put my money on the line, but if they're performing well and seem to be in good spirits, I'll bet on them because it's exciting and makes you feel like you're more of an active participant.

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In contrast, those who genuinely want to win will study the sports betting market.

I'd rather not waste my time on studying the "betting market"
You know that the odds are visible all at once and that's most of the studying you should do, right? What are you going to study? Past performance up to 10 matches back? You're going to bet based on someone's last year performance?
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November 01, 2024, 01:10:21 PM
For me, it still depends. Success or winnings will not rely on betting against the public or going with them together.

Especially if you are in sports betting, some are using analytics to decide which team or player to bet on even if it's a crowd favorite, sometimes situational betting is good for this because it involves some conditions that may make crowd favorites more likely to cover.
There is always a factor of luck, whether against the public or not in betting, a situation that can hardly be trusted by the public but occurs, such as Barcelona and Bayern Munich, that is one example, with the results of a very far goal.

But lately supporting the favorite team always fails, like supporting Real Madrid against Barcelona yesterday which ended quite tragic and it made a public conclusion that was quite surprised where the public believed Real Madrid who would get victory, haha ​​unfortunately it could not be predicted, even When you see Monaco can beat Barcelona in the previous match.
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November 01, 2024, 12:51:42 PM
If you’re gambling with 100% success, you must have insider information... man, this is gambling on predictions; there’s nothing like that because it’s impossible to get that level of access unless we sell our souls to the devil, you know what I mean? I mean, the big syndicates...

You are right, no one is 100% successful except those who run the game and can rig it.

no, no, we’re just regular punters trying to find a unique method that could be an effective gambling strategy.

I think every gambler is looking for a unique method/strategy to make more profit in the long run... the holy grail. Maybe some succeed in that, but I believe that it is a small percentage... there are many more of us who win a little, lose a little, and so on in a circle. It's gambling... that's why "betting against or with the public" is a strategy that will work +50% of the time if you are lucky, and if you are not then it will be -50%. It's on us to place a bet with the info we have, but what will happen nobody knows. Once we place a bet we can just hope for the win.
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