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Quote from: delfastTions on November 17, 2024, 06:56:52 AM

But probably for each player there is some optimal value of the usual, frequently used bet. Well, or everyone adheres to some optimal range of bet sizes for themselves. And usually the player does not make bets more than the maximum, as he thinks, but he also does not make bets in the smaller direction, it just becomes completely uninteresting. Another thing is that these optimal individual ranges are very different and they certainly depend on the general wealth of the player or his wealth. And in general on the general standard of living. So probably for a high-quality and interesting game it is necessary to never go beyond these bets.
I hope most gambling players adhere to this.

If they know how much money they can use to place their bet, they will not placing more money that they can not afford. That can disturb their allocated money in gambling because they will just deposit more and more money to place more money and hopes they can wins. Whether they bet against the public or follow what public does, they still remember their limitations and will not trying to break because no guarantee to win on the bet especially if they don't analyze to find the right team that can win. Following public to place a bet can makes them feel greed because they will be sure that public already have an accurate prediction but that will not always right.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on November 16, 2024, 11:17:45 PM

Quote from: delfastTions on November 16, 2024, 12:54:28 PM

It is true that making too big bets is like rushing your game, although most players still prefer that the game does not end too quickly. It is small bets that allow you to extend your game, in other words, to stretch out your chances of winning, although the winnings are usually not large. But if the game is fun and entertainment for you, then this is a good way to play and, by the way, not get upset in the event of a too big loss.

Yes, when we place a small bet, we can use our time and enjoy the game although that will not guarantee us to win. But still by using a small bet, we don't have to lose much money at once but as time goes by, we will know when we should stop gambling especially when our money almost runs out. But some people can accept whatever that will happen when they place a big bet and some of them thinks that when they place a big bet, they can wins more money. But that still not guarantee them to win so after all, we must be careful when placing the bet and only use the money we can afford to lose.

But probably for each player there is some optimal value of the usual, frequently used bet. Well, or everyone adheres to some optimal range of bet sizes for themselves. And usually the player does not make bets more than the maximum, as he thinks, but he also does not make bets in the smaller direction, it just becomes completely uninteresting. Another thing is that these optimal individual ranges are very different and they certainly depend on the general wealth of the player or his wealth. And in general on the general standard of living. So probably for a high-quality and interesting game it is necessary to never go beyond these bets.
I hope most gambling players adhere to this.

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Quote from: delfastTions on November 16, 2024, 12:54:28 PM

It is true that making too big bets is like rushing your game, although most players still prefer that the game does not end too quickly. It is small bets that allow you to extend your game, in other words, to stretch out your chances of winning, although the winnings are usually not large. But if the game is fun and entertainment for you, then this is a good way to play and, by the way, not get upset in the event of a too big loss.

Yes, when we place a small bet, we can use our time and enjoy the game although that will not guarantee us to win. But still by using a small bet, we don't have to lose much money at once but as time goes by, we will know when we should stop gambling especially when our money almost runs out. But some people can accept whatever that will happen when they place a big bet and some of them thinks that when they place a big bet, they can wins more money. But that still not guarantee them to win so after all, we must be careful when placing the bet and only use the money we can afford to lose.

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Quote from: alastantiger on November 15, 2024, 06:20:27 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on November 15, 2024, 03:14:44 PM

That's how addiction being generated, your adrenaline increases and each time you win or you lose its added a lot either with your enjoyment or your frustration, betting either against the public or following the favorite depends on how you see your potential edge, though like what you stated no one knows what will be the outcome, a kind of risk that you needed to embrace and you needed to overcome as if you can't handle it, things might go wrong and will ruined everything not limited with your finances but moreso with your relationships.

The choice is ours to make because we are the ones being affected directly and not the public. The public opinion shouldn't influence or matter in the decision we take about our own life. If we keep seeking validation from the public, we'll never do anything on our own. I have seen a gambler miss out on a big victory because he listen to what the public had to say. He had his bet on a draw in one of the games that played last week but changed his mind after listening to conversation going on and it turned out to be a wrong decision.

Many gamblers has been in this type of situations because they didn't trust the prediction that they have chosen but believe that others opinions matter. You can only use their opinion as guidelines for selecting yours but not as a final decision without doing your findings.

That kind of attitude will mostly leads you to lose a lot, and aside from losing your money it adds up stress as you feel regrets about the decision you made following someone else prediction, it's much better to place your bet according to how you understand the game and how you trust your own judgement when analyzing the outcome,.

Like what you said, this situation is a case to case situation there's always reason behind when picking your bets, it's all about you knowing how to handle your gambling sessions.

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If you like bet against whatever you want, the real truth about gambling is it doesn't take a side, either public or not this won't determined your luck, you can win or lose on any side you choose to bet against.

Like we have discussed this so many times, all these aren't necessary, whatever you do when gambling always make sure you risk only what you can afford to lose, this isn't hard to do, it is all for the best.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on November 15, 2024, 08:42:12 PM

Quote from: Hirose UK on November 15, 2024, 12:58:29 AM

To see the analysis and also the predictions that make, it is clear that everything will show the favorite team and this is the public choice because everyone will only focus and bet on what has big chance of winning, going against the public will be the same as taking the risk of failing even though there is 10% chance of winning.
But I think there are also many gamblers who have random mindset where they bet against the direction, take risks for large multipliers and only rely on luck.

That will not be a problem if they bet against the direction because maybe they have more analysis that can tells them the chance to win from their team choice. That is why we need to analyze first before we decide to pick the team and even if that is means we bet against the public, that will be okay.

What we more concen is how much money we can use to bet so we don't use too much money. We don't have to hope to make a big winning because there will a time for us to get that.

It is true that making too big bets is like rushing your game, although most players still prefer that the game does not end too quickly. It is small bets that allow you to extend your game, in other words, to stretch out your chances of winning, although the winnings are usually not large. But if the game is fun and entertainment for you, then this is a good way to play and, by the way, not get upset in the event of a too big loss.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on November 15, 2024, 12:58:29 AM

To see the analysis and also the predictions that make, it is clear that everything will show the favorite team and this is the public choice because everyone will only focus and bet on what has big chance of winning, going against the public will be the same as taking the risk of failing even though there is 10% chance of winning.
But I think there are also many gamblers who have random mindset where they bet against the direction, take risks for large multipliers and only rely on luck.

That will not be a problem if they bet against the direction because maybe they have more analysis that can tells them the chance to win from their team choice. That is why we need to analyze first before we decide to pick the team and even if that is means we bet against the public, that will be okay.

What we more concen is how much money we can use to bet so we don't use too much money. We don't have to hope to make a big winning because there will a time for us to get that.

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Quote from: Fredomago on November 15, 2024, 03:14:44 PM

That's how addiction being generated, your adrenaline increases and each time you win or you lose its added a lot either with your enjoyment or your frustration, betting either against the public or following the favorite depends on how you see your potential edge, though like what you stated no one knows what will be the outcome, a kind of risk that you needed to embrace and you needed to overcome as if you can't handle it, things might go wrong and will ruined everything not limited with your finances but moreso with your relationships.

The choice is ours to make because we are the ones being affected directly and not the public. The public opinion shouldn't influence or matter in the decision we take about our own life. If we keep seeking validation from the public, we'll never do anything on our own. I have seen a gambler miss out on a big victory because he listen to what the public had to say. He had his bet on a draw in one of the games that played last week but changed his mind after listening to conversation going on and it turned out to be a wrong decision.

Many gamblers has been in this type of situations because they didn't trust the prediction that they have chosen but believe that others opinions matter. You can only use their opinion as guidelines for selecting yours but not as a final decision without doing your findings.

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Quote from: South Park on November 14, 2024, 01:13:14 PM

This is what makes gambling so confusing and difficult to become good at, as you could do the perfect bet and do a great prediction for a match, but no one can really predict what it may happen and suddenly you find yourself losing that bet even when you did everything as you were supposed to do, so someone that was relatively new to gambling will try to chance what they did, when in fact there is no reason to do anything about it.

That's what gambling entails in itself. It is populated by predictions especially when you engage in sports bets amongst other ones. You only gamble based on predictions then leave your hopes high at the mercy of the outcome of the games. This does not necessarily mean that one cannot become an expert in gambling, because of how long some people focus on gambling, they become more experienced and informed of the decisions they need to take to get the right results. Does this mean they will always be right? Absolutely no. They still depend heavily on their instinct and experience to detect who wins or loses a game.

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Quote from: South Park on November 14, 2024, 01:13:14 PM

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Quote from: Jewan420 on November 13, 2024, 02:13:25 AM

No one is supposed to know the exact outcome of a bet, unless he is involved in the fixing. Experience in match analysis in sports can increase your chances of winning. In this case we don't know the 100% sure result but in some matches we can pick the best swing to win or it is easy to pick. Again analyzing some matches makes it impossible to get results, if both teams are strong. But no matter how experienced you are in betting, there will always be a risk of losing your money.

Challenges as this affects the way players place their bets, due to doubts and self negligence. Most often the public opinion tend to switch some gambler's initial prediction to another one, which could end up being false. However, going with our own choices can be beneficial and painful according to the outcome of the match.

Nobody is sure of the right results. That's the reason for some of the experienced players who get confused of the right prediction.

This is what makes gambling so confusing and difficult to become good at, as you could do the perfect bet and do a great prediction for a match, but no one can really predict what it may happen and suddenly you find yourself losing that bet even when you did everything as you were supposed to do, so someone that was relatively new to gambling will try to chance what they did, when in fact there is no reason to do anything about it.

That's how addiction being generated, your adrenaline increases and each time you win or you lose its added a lot either with your enjoyment or your frustration, betting either against the public or following the favorite depends on how you see your potential edge, though like what you stated no one knows what will be the outcome, a kind of risk that you needed to embrace and you needed to overcome as if you can't handle it, things might go wrong and will ruined everything not limited with your finances but moreso with your relationships.

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Quote from: delfastTions on November 14, 2024, 07:02:50 AM

Experience in betting and analysis of the upcoming game are of course important for a player who bets on the victory of one of the teams. If these are not fan bets, when a player bets only and exclusively on his favorite team, then sometimes it is probably worth weighing the risks and betting against the public. And sometimes it happens that this is an excellent decision and the bet wins. I would also draw attention to the pleasure that a player gets who bets against the public and wins.
This clearly increases both self-esteem and pleasure. And in general, this is an interesting version of the game, but of course you should not abuse such bets.

The thing is when he want to place a bet, he need to analyze everything so he will know how big the chance for him to pick the team that he thinks will win. He can choose betting against the public or betting following the public based on his analysis because his reason to place a bet is to win the match. Maybe he can choose betting against the public because he see the chance to win on that. But all in all, he must know about the risks when he pick one of those so he can prepare and accept whatever will happen later.

To see the analysis and also the predictions that make, it is clear that everything will show the favorite team and this is the public choice because everyone will only focus and bet on what has big chance of winning, going against the public will be the same as taking the risk of failing even though there is 10% chance of winning.
But I think there are also many gamblers who have random mindset where they bet against the direction, take risks for large multipliers and only rely on luck.

This seems to be true.
That some players, maybe a very small percentage of the total number of players, place bets, what is called randomly or by chance. Roughly speaking, they toss a coin, guessing the teams' heads or tails and place a bet by chance, as the coin fell. By the way, this can be both together with a public bet on the favorite of the competition, and against it. And the choice of the bet in such a game, in general, the player himself can explain to himself as a manifestation of higher powers when the coins are tossed. This can be providence and again God's providence. Such reasons can well be accepted even after the game is played and the result becomes known. By the way, this way of playing is still quite interesting, especially when there are no obvious favorites in the games. It is quite possible to try to play this way, although it is of course risky. It's just that everyone is used to analyzing, and this method does not provide for any preliminary analysis. And by the way, this is exactly what makes it interesting.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 28, 2024, 10:28:05 PM

The public here mainly consists of bettors who tend to bet on the favorites, whether it’s point spread or moneyline. Most suggestions we see online emphasize that to be considered a smart bettor, you should bet against the public. But what if we don’t bet against ourselves? Can we still find success in sports betting?

When we talk about success, it should be viewed as a long-term process. Some of us may not see ourselves betting long-term, which makes it hard for them to relate to this concept. If someone is just betting for fun, they likely won’t be well-versed in the terminology of sports betting, as their interest is quite limited. In contrast, those who genuinely want to win will study the sports betting market and seek ways to succeed, even if the chances are slim.

If you are actively playing with the sports bet you can see the number of odds and on this you can get a hint if the game is already in favor team, now if you see the odds is too close to each other I consider this as a risky play because you can get a small amount of odds at the same time risk that you might lose the game because the both team is good reason why the odds is not far apart. If you don't have an idea with the game others follow what does the public vote which is the team with lower odds, but if you know very well the both teams and you can risk with the other team with higher odds and potential you can do a YOLO bet sometimes I do this in an underdog matches.

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Quote from: Litzki1990 on November 15, 2024, 07:11:32 AM

I understand you are referring here to the type of betting where two or so people sit together and bet on a match or something. ..

That’s not what OP meant. "Betting against the public" is a sports betting term. It’s used when you’re fading public perception or betting against picks that are heavily favored by the general public. Essentially, it’s about taking the opposite side of a bet that looks too good to be true or is overly popular.

Maybe the articles below can explain it more clearly and give you some insights into how it works.

https://sportsbookwire.usatoday.com/2021/08/10/sports-betting-strategy-when-and-how-to-fade-the-public/
https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/guides/betting-101/betting-against-the-public/

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I understand you are referring here to the type of betting where two or so people sit together and bet on a match or something. It is dangerous, many times after placing a bet like this, the person who loses the bet does not want to pay, resulting in a big financial dispute between the winner and the loser, and from this dispute stage is reached things are much worse. But if a person bets online then there will be no chance of trouble because if the bet is lost then the money will automatically be deducted from his account while if he wins then the capital will be returned to him along with the profit amount. Therefore, it is better not to take such bets where a small amount of money can lead to big problems.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on November 14, 2024, 09:44:57 PM

Quote from: delfastTions on November 14, 2024, 07:02:50 AM

Experience in betting and analysis of the upcoming game are of course important for a player who bets on the victory of one of the teams. If these are not fan bets, when a player bets only and exclusively on his favorite team, then sometimes it is probably worth weighing the risks and betting against the public. And sometimes it happens that this is an excellent decision and the bet wins. I would also draw attention to the pleasure that a player gets who bets against the public and wins.
This clearly increases both self-esteem and pleasure. And in general, this is an interesting version of the game, but of course you should not abuse such bets.

The thing is when he want to place a bet, he need to analyze everything so he will know how big the chance for him to pick the team that he thinks will win. He can choose betting against the public or betting following the public based on his analysis because his reason to place a bet is to win the match. Maybe he can choose betting against the public because he see the chance to win on that. But all in all, he must know about the risks when he pick one of those so he can prepare and accept whatever will happen later.

To see the analysis and also the predictions that make, it is clear that everything will show the favorite team and this is the public choice because everyone will only focus and bet on what has big chance of winning, going against the public will be the same as taking the risk of failing even though there is 10% chance of winning.
But I think there are also many gamblers who have random mindset where they bet against the direction, take risks for large multipliers and only rely on luck.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 28, 2024, 10:28:05 PM

The public here mainly consists of bettors who tend to bet on the favorites, whether it’s point spread or moneyline. Most suggestions we see online emphasize that to be considered a smart bettor, you should bet against the public. But what if we don’t bet against ourselves? Can we still find success in sports betting?

When we talk about success, it should be viewed as a long-term process. Some of us may not see ourselves betting long-term, which makes it hard for them to relate to this concept. If someone is just betting for fun, they likely won’t be well-versed in the terminology of sports betting, as their interest is quite limited. In contrast, those who genuinely want to win will study the sports betting market and seek ways to succeed, even if the chances are slim.

Although many people bet for fun, those who really want to profit from it need deep practice in sports betting. One should try to bet with an analytical attitude. Strategic planning regarding your bet size and bet type is very important. Sometimes even small series bets can be effective for long term profit.

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Quote from: delfastTions on November 14, 2024, 07:02:50 AM

Experience in betting and analysis of the upcoming game are of course important for a player who bets on the victory of one of the teams. If these are not fan bets, when a player bets only and exclusively on his favorite team, then sometimes it is probably worth weighing the risks and betting against the public. And sometimes it happens that this is an excellent decision and the bet wins. I would also draw attention to the pleasure that a player gets who bets against the public and wins.
This clearly increases both self-esteem and pleasure. And in general, this is an interesting version of the game, but of course you should not abuse such bets.

The thing is when he want to place a bet, he need to analyze everything so he will know how big the chance for him to pick the team that he thinks will win. He can choose betting against the public or betting following the public based on his analysis because his reason to place a bet is to win the match. Maybe he can choose betting against the public because he see the chance to win on that. But all in all, he must know about the risks when he pick one of those so he can prepare and accept whatever will happen later.

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Maybe I will exclude the word "public" here, because it is undeniable that when more people choose one of the two teams that will compete, it does not mean that the favorite choice is the choice that will result in victory, actually this is not about how many gamblers choose one option but about how much knowledge and skills you have to choose one of the options that are intended to be choices that have a much higher chance of winning.

On the other hand, one of the reasons is because even though many people bet on teams that they feel are far superior, it does not mean that in the end it is the choice that will win, because especially in sports, skill is not something that can ensure victory but is nothing more than a tool to increase the chances of winning, the point is that it does not mean that the public's choice or your own choice is the right choice to achieve victory, in the end the results can never be known in advance.

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Quote from: Accardo on November 13, 2024, 05:42:41 AM

Quote from: Jewan420 on November 13, 2024, 02:13:25 AM

No one is supposed to know the exact outcome of a bet, unless he is involved in the fixing. Experience in match analysis in sports can increase your chances of winning. In this case we don't know the 100% sure result but in some matches we can pick the best swing to win or it is easy to pick. Again analyzing some matches makes it impossible to get results, if both teams are strong. But no matter how experienced you are in betting, there will always be a risk of losing your money.

Challenges as this affects the way players place their bets, due to doubts and self negligence. Most often the public opinion tend to switch some gambler's initial prediction to another one, which could end up being false. However, going with our own choices can be beneficial and painful according to the outcome of the match.

Nobody is sure of the right results. That's the reason for some of the experienced players who get confused of the right prediction.

This is what makes gambling so confusing and difficult to become good at, as you could do the perfect bet and do a great prediction for a match, but no one can really predict what it may happen and suddenly you find yourself losing that bet even when you did everything as you were supposed to do, so someone that was relatively new to gambling will try to chance what they did, when in fact there is no reason to do anything about it.

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Quote from: MainIbem on November 13, 2024, 02:11:51 AM

Well said, no one can constantly be very accurate with their predictions, sometimes one can be right on several occasions and it may seem as though you're getting it clear or have unlocked the key to successful gambling but just one game or several loses after multiple streaks of winning would just get you humbled, I've seen people one the media who call themselves gambling experts, Lords of sports betting get humbled by a single bet. Sometimes betting against the public pays, though it doesn't happen very often cause bigger teams would always be superior to underdogs in the eyes of the bookies and the public would always bet on teams that are the favourites to win based on their odds, form and quality of players compared to their opponents but I've seen cases where betting against the public payed off for instance in the EPL week 11, Manchester City where clear favourites but they lost to Brighton, likewise Tottenham losing to a buttom league team Ipswich Town, I bet the public picked Manchester City and Tottenham to win those matches but those few people who defiled the odds and bet against the public in those matches won.

If they humbled even if they win streaks, they will know that their winning is because of their luck and their analysis. They will not become too proud of themselves because that will no use. Betting against public can gives a good profit but that will depends on the teams that will match. That is why we must have a good skills to analyze each team so we will know what team that have a big chance to win although the weak team can turn the situation and gives the weak team a chance to beat the strong team. That can happens anytime so we must be careful when analyze the team and not forget about the weak team chance to win.

Quote from: Jewan420 on November 13, 2024, 02:13:25 AM

No one is supposed to know the exact outcome of a bet, unless he is involved in the fixing. Experience in match analysis in sports can increase your chances of winning. In this case we don't know the 100% sure result but in some matches we can pick the best swing to win or it is easy to pick. Again analyzing some matches makes it impossible to get results, if both teams are strong. But no matter how experienced you are in betting, there will always be a risk of losing your money. Even if you get a preview through match analysis, the final result remains a possibility for you. Be too aggressive in betting is not the best thing to do, bet only the amount you are prepared to lose. Match analysis experience will help you win more than lose.

Yes, no one will know what will be the outcome of the match but they can still analyze to finds the right team that can wins. Having experience and good skill to analyze will helps you to have a right choice of the team that can win. But you must be careful when placing your bet and not use too big money if you are not ready with the losses. The losses will comes anytime without you notice so when you only place a small bet, that will not be a problem for you when you lose because that is the money you can afford to lose in gambling. You will not consider to keep playing gambling because you know how long you can playing gambling and when you must stop gambling.

Experience in betting and analysis of the upcoming game are of course important for a player who bets on the victory of one of the teams. If these are not fan bets, when a player bets only and exclusively on his favorite team, then sometimes it is probably worth weighing the risks and betting against the public. And sometimes it happens that this is an excellent decision and the bet wins. I would also draw attention to the pleasure that a player gets who bets against the public and wins.
This clearly increases both self-esteem and pleasure. And in general, this is an interesting version of the game, but of course you should not abuse such bets.

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