Topic: Enough to consider a casino scam? - page 21. (Read 3481 times)
$8k is probably enough value to trigger additional verification requests for casinos in general. With a case like the OP described, I can consider them a scam or a bad system because it's not a good way to cancel winnings by making verification difficult. Usually the casino has a technical reason if the winnings have the right to cancel them.
Hi friends, I have some questions for you guys about online casinos
What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?
Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?
I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.
Any other reasons?
About KYC. You need to read ToS. Usually the casino include KYC before withdraw in their ToS but until your withdrawals are small enough they can allow such withdrawals. If you withdraw such sum and there is KYC in ToS - you have to do it. You can try several times in different ways i think.What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?
Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?
I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.
Any other reasons?
About bonuses. You need some information when you made this deposit and when the bonus program was stopped. And it can be some more restrictions for getting bonus, read attentively.
A KYC before withdrawing cannot really be considered in my view as a problem or an abusive condition, since it is pretty much a standard legal requirement. Now, to be fair, the site is playing the user in the sense that it is easy to send funds and then difficult to take back. Legally, the site is holding funds of unknown origin, so my guess is that they are at that moment doing something illegal.
Nowadays people want to keep themselves as secure as much possible even there's a data privacy act regarding the information will use by gambling still you cannot deny there's a chance those data can be use in other things unless you really trust that particular casino, in my opinion, the player can make a level 1 security which is the requirements for the account of having an email and optional for the phone number, but regarding with the level 2 KYC with the use of the ID and other documentation just to make a withdrawal without a problem with your record seems like a red flag, some of the casinos tag their users once they won a large amount upon playing so still depends on the player.
The first rule to follow would be to only gamble in really big and well known casinos, with a huge user base and little complaints from them about withdrawing issues.
I would replace the "big and well known" with "trusted with good track record". There are some smaller sites out there with honest owners, who have been around for a while and have a clean record. And on the contrary, we've seen many cases when big brands were accused of shady practices. And the bigger you get, the less you can care about single, individual customers.
Yeah looks like it. But partly you should have also done the background research before investing money in such casinos. I would only send my casino after critical verification and my place of verification is Bitcointalk itself. You can gain a lot of knowledge about the casino you are going to invest in and thus be sure of not getting scammed.
If the casino name is not around the Bitcoin talk forum then say bye-bye to it and look for another. Anyways, I have already made my choice with various casinos for 3-4 years and not going away from them ever.
I think you should take this to next level and based on your country and the legality of the casino operation you can always file a suit against them. $8000 is not a small amount and sometimes they might just release it with a single notice considering they would want to keep legal away from them if you are true.
If the casino name is not around the Bitcoin talk forum then say bye-bye to it and look for another. Anyways, I have already made my choice with various casinos for 3-4 years and not going away from them ever.
I think you should take this to next level and based on your country and the legality of the casino operation you can always file a suit against them. $8000 is not a small amount and sometimes they might just release it with a single notice considering they would want to keep legal away from them if you are true.
The first rule to follow would be to only gamble in really big and well known casinos, with a huge user base and little complaints from them about withdrawing issues.
If your friend didn't follow this rule, and the casino fails to reimburse him by no legitimate reason, then he should sue them. But this may be costly and hard due to different jurisdictions, anonymous managers... so the first step I would make would be to gather other users who suffered the same issue, and only then file a joint lawsuit.
About the bonus, it seems like a minor issue to me.
If your friend didn't follow this rule, and the casino fails to reimburse him by no legitimate reason, then he should sue them. But this may be costly and hard due to different jurisdictions, anonymous managers... so the first step I would make would be to gather other users who suffered the same issue, and only then file a joint lawsuit.
About the bonus, it seems like a minor issue to me.
Hi friends, I have some questions for you guys about online casinos
What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?
Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?
I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.
Any other reasons?
What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?
Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?
I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.
Any other reasons?
May I ask how would you be able to solve it if the gambling site really do scam people. There are some possibilities why the gambling site didn't receive a bonus probably because he didn't meet the requirement of that first deposit bonus because some bonus have a minimum amount before they will be rewarded with the deposit bonus, but if he won big amount and submit kyc and decline it. I think you can consider that already as a scam particularly if they don't give good reason why they will reject your kyc.
Except for the experienced gamblers, any newbies is liable to no getting acquainted to how a casino can go tricky in some ways they make their offers or present them, there are so many reliable casinos that people trust and yet they also have their own reasons for that, but once you look into many parameters that gives you clue on how those casinos operates, you will definitely know which one is genuine and which is not from different perspective.
Just making use of your own common sense would be able to tell you that are dealing with the right place.It is really just that dumb that you wont really be able to notice out if ever there are casinos or platforms who do make out some shady acts or procedure which is totally different compared to those usual operation which would really be making out those questions in mind that you are really that trying out to notice.Therefore, you would really be acting accordingly into that and would be having those thoughts that you should avoid
and look for something else.
The key takeaway is that caution and vigilance are required wherever online gaming is involved. Slick con artists who would manipulate their own family for financial gain are a reality we have to face. But have no fear. We're going to rule the virtual gaming world with just a touch of intelligence and a whole lot of common sense. Let's thus keep our wits about us. Who knows what kind of sleight of hand online casinos have?
Except for the experienced gamblers, any newbies is liable to no getting acquainted to how a casino can go tricky in some ways they make their offers or present them, there are so many reliable casinos that people trust and yet they also have their own reasons for that, but once you look into many parameters that gives you clue on how those casinos operates, you will definitely know which one is genuine and which is not from different perspective.
Just making use of your own common sense would be able to tell you that are dealing with the right place.It is really just that dumb that you wont really be able to notice out if ever there are casinos or platforms who do make out some shady acts or procedure which is totally different compared to those usual operation which would really be making out those questions in mind that you are really that trying out to notice.Therefore, you would really be acting accordingly into that and would be having those thoughts that you should avoid
and look for something else.
What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?
If this were the case, this would be considered as a prima facie evidence that the casino is trying to withhold my profit. With this, they are intentionally delaying payments and this would require further action in order to satisfy my claim, which should be reported to their customer service representative or forum representative, if the latter is available.
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Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?
This depends on the casino you are depositing your money with. If it is a fairly new casino that offers relatively high bonuses to attract users, that would be considered as a red flag for me. But if it is a casino that has been ongoing for several years now, I would give them the benefit of the doubt. Of course, all problems should be directed to their CS representative for them to be alerted of this issue.
Except for the experienced gamblers, any newbies is liable to no getting acquainted to how a casino can go tricky in some ways they make their offers or present them, there are so many reliable casinos that people trust and yet they also have their own reasons for that, but once you look into many parameters that gives you clue on how those casinos operates, you will definitely know which one is genuine and which is not from different perspective.
I think if there is no good reason why they need you to submit KYC then you can think that they are just making excuse not to pay you, but usually they will tell to you that to comply with their terms and condition you need to submit KYC and of course you can read it as well in their ToS. If they don't accept your KYC after you win nor give you bonus in their promotion, I think those are some of the signs that the gambling site could not be trusted in my opiniont.
The OP said after his friends won $8k. Normally a casino won't ask a KYC right after a big win but some of them will, if the user is attempting to withdraw the money. That is due to regulations but the real problem here is his friends agree to submit a KYC and then the site denies it. There is something wrong there. Maybe the site is truly a scam?We can re-scan their TOS to see if we did not really qualify in the bonus or if there is a KYC upon hitting a certain amount. If not then I will start to worry because maybe my suspicions earlier are true that they are really a scam casino but to confirm this, we can search the feedback of other users towards this casino.
What I always tell gamblers on the issue of kyc is that, if you know you will be gambling with big amount of money and also expecting to win big, it is always much more comfortable and less stressful to apply for kyc verification upon your registration on the casino, at this time, at this time, you can still gamble while you wait for your kyc to be approved, but if you wait until you are making a big withdrawal and the casino themselves ask you to verify your account, there is the possibility that your account will be locked, together with your money, you cant gamble or withdraw until you have passed kyc.
And again, there is also the possibility that the kyc requirements, as well as process will be longer, and tougher, as some casinos will still ask for verification through video call, even after having submitted your documents for verification.
Why i always do that is because i will want to know if I will be able to pass the KYC process in the future. should be in case I win a big amount and I want to withdraw without any issues.
Knowing which website is it may definitely help
I’d look into their track record. It’s not enough to say one refused case is a reason not to trust them
Apart from that there’s the point other users mentioned. One should always check the website ToS BEFORE depositing
I’d look into their track record. It’s not enough to say one refused case is a reason not to trust them
Apart from that there’s the point other users mentioned. One should always check the website ToS BEFORE depositing
Hi friends, I have some questions for you guys about online casinos
What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?
Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?
I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.
Any other reasons?
About KYC. You need to read ToS. Usually the casino include KYC before withdraw in their ToS but until your withdrawals are small enough they can allow such withdrawals. If you withdraw such sum and there is KYC in ToS - you have to do it. You can try several times in different ways i think.What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?
Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?
I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.
Any other reasons?
About bonuses. You need some information when you made this deposit and when the bonus program was stopped. And it can be some more restrictions for getting bonus, read attentively.
A KYC before withdrawing cannot really be considered in my view as a problem or an abusive condition, since it is pretty much a standard legal requirement. Now, to be fair, the site is playing the user in the sense that it is easy to send funds and then difficult to take back. Legally, the site is holding funds of unknown origin, so my guess is that they are at that moment doing something illegal.
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Hi friends, I have some questions for you guys about online casinos
What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?
Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?
I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.
Any other reasons?
About KYC. You need to read ToS. Usually the casino include KYC before withdraw in their ToS but until your withdrawals are small enough they can allow such withdrawals. If you withdraw such sum and there is KYC in ToS - you have to do it. You can try several times in different ways i think.What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?
Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?
I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.
Any other reasons?
About bonuses. You need some information when you made this deposit and when the bonus program was stopped. And it can be some more restrictions for getting bonus, read attentively.
And again, there is also the possibility that the kyc requirements, as well as process will be longer, and tougher, as some casinos will still ask for verification through video call, even after having submitted your documents for verification.
Hi friends, I have some questions for you guys about online casinos
What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?
Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?
I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.
Any other reasons?
About KYC. You need to read ToS. Usually the casino include KYC before withdraw in their ToS but until your withdrawals are small enough they can allow such withdrawals. If you withdraw such sum and there is KYC in ToS - you have to do it. You can try several times in different ways i think.What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?
Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?
I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.
Any other reasons?
About bonuses. You need some information when you made this deposit and when the bonus program was stopped. And it can be some more restrictions for getting bonus, read attentively.
I think if there is no good reason why they need you to submit KYC then you can think that they are just making excuse not to pay you, but usually they will tell to you that to comply with their terms and condition you need to submit KYC and of course you can read it as well in their ToS. If they don't accept your KYC after you win nor give you bonus in their promotion, I think those are some of the signs that the gambling site could not be trusted in my opiniont.
The OP said after his friends won $8k. Normally a casino won't ask a KYC right after a big win but some of them will, if the user is attempting to withdraw the money. That is due to regulations but the real problem here is his friends agree to submit a KYC and then the site denies it. There is something wrong there. Maybe the site is truly a scam?We can re-scan their TOS to see if we did not really qualify in the bonus or if there is a KYC upon hitting a certain amount. If not then I will start to worry because maybe my suspicions earlier are true that they are really a scam casino but to confirm this, we can search the feedback of other users towards this casino.
Hi friends, I have some questions for you guys about online casinos
What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?
Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?
I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.
Any other reasons?
About KYC. You need to read ToS. Usually the casino include KYC before withdraw in their ToS but until your withdrawals are small enough they can allow such withdrawals. If you withdraw such sum and there is KYC in ToS - you have to do it. You can try several times in different ways i think.What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?
Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?
I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.
Any other reasons?
About bonuses. You need some information when you made this deposit and when the bonus program was stopped. And it can be some more restrictions for getting bonus, read attentively.
Kidding, kidding! But for real, KYC can be a royal pain. To sidestep it, try smaller, multiple withdrawals instead of one massive amount. It'll take longer, but bye-bye pesky verifications.
Bonuses? They're like unicorns - elusive, legendary beasts. Before you hunt for that bonus scheme, scrutinize the fine print. Who knows what limits or hidden fees might be lurking?
Hi friends, I have some questions for you guys about online casinos
I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.
Any other reasons?
so what about now? have you resolved your friends issue? wondering what is the true reason for this case .I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.
Any other reasons?
and what about the respond of that said site? it has been a week now but never that you bring single answer here , wondering what is the reason since you decide to create this thread?
well we are all hoping that you already solved the case or at least your friend already taken his funds out .
OP keeps logging into the forum every day to post normally but as we can see he completely forgot about this thread, which made me wonder why OP's friend didn't come personally to create a thread in the scam section of this forum and post all relevant information like the casino and everything that happened and evidence. and with that we would see if the casino has a thread in this forum, if it would have reason to leave negative feedback and support the flag or not.
but OP is not giving any relevant information, he didn't give any advice for his friend to create a scam accusation here in the forum, maybe OP doesn't want to expose the casino because it could be a reliable or old casino, anyway without relevant information this thread it's just a thread without much importance and OP's friend's problem may not be resolved due to lack of pressure from the casino side, but as OP's friend is ok with it, so we'll leave it at that
Hi friends, I have some questions for you guys about online casinos
What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?
Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?
I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.
Any other reasons?
About KYC. You need to read ToS. Usually the casino include KYC before withdraw in their ToS but until your withdrawals are small enough they can allow such withdrawals. If you withdraw such sum and there is KYC in ToS - you have to do it. You can try several times in different ways i think.What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?
Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?
I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.
Any other reasons?
About bonuses. You need some information when you made this deposit and when the bonus program was stopped. And it can be some more restrictions for getting bonus, read attentively.
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