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December 05, 2023, 10:11:40 AM
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They are through to the 16 of the UCL and yes, they could meet a top team but with their composure they could be one surprise team to watch out for in Europe.

PSV is playing great football in local Dutch league, but I clearly doubt that they can do anything serious in CL
all will depend on a draw, but you could see against Arsenal that difference in quality is simply to big to be ignored, and that they will easily drop-out on some of top European teams

but playing in R16 in CL is already a success for PSV, and Feyenoord didn't succeed to pass, but they will have better time in Europa league, where they have better chances to pass further
also, congrats to PSV on all wins so far, it is a rare event to see

But isn't PSV already qualified for the next round? I don't think they need a draw as they played their games against Lens and won one game 1-0 and tied the other game 1-1. No matter how this last game ends, nothing can change in that group anymore for Arsenal and PSV. The odds aren't great or anything, but if there was still something on the line for PSV I think a bet on PSV could have made sense. But this way both teams are playing for nothing.

However, I agree that next round I don't see them as a tough contender. But what they are doing in the Eredivisie is insane. That goal difference!  Shocked
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December 05, 2023, 05:54:18 AM
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They are through to the 16 of the UCL and yes, they could meet a top team but with their composure they could be one surprise team to watch out for in Europe.

PSV is playing great football in local Dutch league, but I clearly doubt that they can do anything serious in CL
all will depend on a draw, but you could see against Arsenal that difference in quality is simply to big to be ignored, and that they will easily drop-out on some of top European teams

but playing in R16 in CL is already a success for PSV, and Feyenoord didn't succeed to pass, but they will have better time in Europa league, where they have better chances to pass further
also, congrats to PSV on all wins so far, it is a rare event to see
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December 05, 2023, 05:39:18 AM
I totally agree that PSV are literally unstoppable. Because they have won all of their 14 games played in the league until now. They are incredible in offense and defense at the same time. It started to seem to me like they have changed roles with Ajax. Because Ajax also had this kind of solid seasons but I just don't know any of their starts was this huge.  Grin

PSV are really good at balancing the Eredivisie and Champions League at the same time also. Maybe they might not see more than last 16 in the Champions League but still it is a good success.

Thankfully Ajax are also on a great streak in the Eredivisie without a loss for many weeks. There is a huge point difference between the Champions League area and them though but they can at least join a competition by finishing in much better place.  Smiley
PSV are really showing us that they seriously want the title and are chasing it so well with very incredible stats as these stats maintained over time could bring the league home. I think they’ve replaced Ajax who were known for this domineering stats in the Netherland League. They are through to the 16 of the UCL and yes, they could meet a top team but with their composure they could be one surprise team to watch out for in Europe.

 Yea, Ajax had a poor start but they’ve quickly regained their foot and are bouncing back so fast, leaving no stone unturned and they can probably finish at a spot for an European competition next season, good for them the January transfer is fast approaching and then they'll strength their squad better to be able to finish in a better spot for the European competition.
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December 04, 2023, 12:57:45 PM
I totally agree that PSV are literally unstoppable. Because they have won all of their 14 games played in the league until now. They are incredible in offense and defense at the same time. It started to seem to me like they have changed roles with Ajax. Because Ajax also had this kind of solid seasons but I just don't know any of their starts was this huge.  Grin

PSV are really good at balancing the Eredivisie and Champions League at the same time also. Maybe they might not see more than last 16 in the Champions League but still it is a good success.

Thankfully Ajax are also on a great streak in the Eredivisie without a loss for many weeks. There is a huge point difference between the Champions League area and them though but they can at least join a competition by finishing in much better place.  Smiley
PSV have swept all their matches in the Eredivisie this season with a win. their statistics are impressive, with 50 goals scored in 14 matches. this is an incredible record, and shows that PSV is too tough for any team.

Last season, PSV finished as runners up behind Feyenoord. but this time, they look more than ready to win the title. on the other hand, it could be said that PSV have also confirmed their place in the round of 16 of the UCL, simply playing a draw when facing Sevilla. I think they will fight further than just the top 16.

Ajax have had a tough season so far, but they are starting to show improvement in form. Ajax still has a chance to improve their position in the points table. they need to continue to be consistent so they don't fall into the degradation zone again like yesterday.
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December 04, 2023, 10:20:36 AM
It feels like we are seeing that old and good PSV from the mid 2000 where they are very capable of reaching good stages in the Champions League, its good to see them back to that levels after son many years being one more team in Europa league or even worse than that.

The numers of their season in Eredivisie are beyond amazing. 14 played 14 wins, 50 goals scored and only 6 goals allowed!!!!!
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December 04, 2023, 09:41:42 AM
I totally agree that PSV are literally unstoppable. Because they have won all of their 14 games played in the league until now. They are incredible in offense and defense at the same time. It started to seem to me like they have changed roles with Ajax. Because Ajax also had this kind of solid seasons but I just don't know any of their starts was this huge.  Grin

PSV are really good at balancing the Eredivisie and Champions League at the same time also. Maybe they might not see more than last 16 in the Champions League but still it is a good success.

Thankfully Ajax are also on a great streak in the Eredivisie without a loss for many weeks. There is a huge point difference between the Champions League area and them though but they can at least join a competition by finishing in much better place.  Smiley
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December 04, 2023, 09:16:43 AM
Ajax suffer this season, it's pretty bad to watch these players having nothing to prove this season. Ajax can still make it up for the top 4 only if they're consistent in upcoming games. They can do it, I know they're capable but they just need a match or events to ginger the players and the coach to emphasize on good records this season. I've never for a second, consider Eredivisie league as a competitive one because mere watching their matches, doesn't prove any form interest actions, rather its boring and full with average teams that can't even stand the pressure form European clubs.
There's great improvement on their side currently, looking at the early part of the season when the season just begun, Ajax was so poor and it was even worse that they were almost consistent with loosing their games repeatedly and it was almost looking like they weren't getting any better soonest because they suffered loss even with a weak team.

Currently they have improved greatly, on paper they used to be and probably are amongst the biggest teams in the eredivisie, last season before the selling off of their players, their performance were one to be reckoned with but after the sales of their players the effects was evident on them by every passing match but they are currently bouncing back regardless and I'm sure they may even finish tops moreover eredivisie isn't so competitive as they are mostly average.
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December 04, 2023, 08:41:48 AM
PSV is unstoppable at the moment, they are simply destroying all opponents

Also two weeks later, very impressive, PSV are playing a perfect season so far. Second to fourth place is hotly contested but evenly matched, so anything is still possible.

Even though Ajax lost to Marseille in the Europa League and have now been eliminated from the Europa League, they have won again in the Eredivisie and seem to be getting back on track and are slowly closing the gap to 5th place, but it will still be very difficult.
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December 04, 2023, 06:19:04 AM
the results of today's games did not bring many surprises, the most important game of this round without a doubt was PSV's game against Feyenoord, in this game PSV is aware that it would be facing a very strong opponent, mainly because it is an opponent who also is fighting for the title, so it became an absolute priority for PSV to win this game to remove their opponent from the race for the title and fortunately for PSV they managed to score two goals in the 2nd half and were already well on their way to victory, the His opponent managed to score 1 goal but was unable to change the result of the game and with this defeat PSV begins to pave the way towards winning the title in a more relaxed way.

in another game involving a top team, twente managed to win very easily, and with this victory they are in position number 4 and with 30 points, the same points as AZ who are playing at the time of writing, in case AZ wins so they will have more than 30 points, but honestly the game is almost over so I doubt that AZ will win, so it will be counted as if they had drawn against utrecht. Leaving aside the results of the top teams, Ajax, who played against NEC, managed to win, it was an important victory for Ajax who are slowly approaching the top, they are still in position number 8

but I think that as there are still many games left for the league to finish, perhaps more than 20 games left, so there is still time for Ajax to at least be able to finish in a position to access European competitions, but this will depend on how Ajax will do when play against the current top teams. but I have no expectations that Ajax would be able to become champions, I think this is a mission that the team has no chance of, they should focus on 2nd and 3rd place
Since Ajax lost form and started this season with a slow pace, PSV has become the most feared team in the Eredivisie league, they've not lost any league game in about 14 matches and have won their last 5 games that's why I'm not surprised with their performance against Feyenoord cause I knew they'll either win or draw Feyenoord, however they really tried cause Feyenoord is another tough team with a good record this season, and beating the one of the best makes you the overall best, that's what PSV are currently (the overall best in the Eredivisie league).

 Ajax would had been above PSV or maybe in Feyenoord's position fighting to get past PSV but their slow start has hindered them from being in the top four, however all hope is not lost cause being in 8th position is not bad since there's still lots of games to be played all Ajax need currently is consistency especially against mediocre teams in the league.
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December 03, 2023, 03:23:33 PM
the results of today's games did not bring many surprises, the most important game of this round without a doubt was PSV's game against Feyenoord, in this game PSV is aware that it would be facing a very strong opponent, mainly because it is an opponent who also is fighting for the title, so it became an absolute priority for PSV to win this game to remove their opponent from the race for the title and fortunately for PSV they managed to score two goals in the 2nd half and were already well on their way to victory, the His opponent managed to score 1 goal but was unable to change the result of the game and with this defeat PSV begins to pave the way towards winning the title in a more relaxed way.

in another game involving a top team, twente managed to win very easily, and with this victory they are in position number 4 and with 30 points, the same points as AZ who are playing at the time of writing, in case AZ wins so they will have more than 30 points, but honestly the game is almost over so I doubt that AZ will win, so it will be counted as if they had drawn against utrecht. Leaving aside the results of the top teams, Ajax, who played against NEC, managed to win, it was an important victory for Ajax who are slowly approaching the top, they are still in position number 8

but I think that as there are still many games left for the league to finish, perhaps more than 20 games left, so there is still time for Ajax to at least be able to finish in a position to access European competitions, but this will depend on how Ajax will do when play against the current top teams. but I have no expectations that Ajax would be able to become champions, I think this is a mission that the team has no chance of, they should focus on 2nd and 3rd place
In 1st half PSV didn't looked impressive, but inn2nd half they were much better. With 2 goals in 2 minutes they basically knocked out Feyenoord. After 14 rounds PSV have perfect result with 14 wins and just 6 goals conceded. I doubt that's possible to maintain such form all season long, so, to early to award them title. Few draws and things may become interesting again.
Result in Utrecht - AZ didn't changed and ended 1:1. While Ajax after win is already in Conference league playoff spot. And they still can get direct spot. Now Ajax is 12 points behind Twente. Potentially 9 because Ajax is yet to play their rescheduled game.
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December 03, 2023, 12:39:23 PM
the results of today's games did not bring many surprises, the most important game of this round without a doubt was PSV's game against Feyenoord, in this game PSV is aware that it would be facing a very strong opponent, mainly because it is an opponent who also is fighting for the title, so it became an absolute priority for PSV to win this game to remove their opponent from the race for the title and fortunately for PSV they managed to score two goals in the 2nd half and were already well on their way to victory, the His opponent managed to score 1 goal but was unable to change the result of the game and with this defeat PSV begins to pave the way towards winning the title in a more relaxed way.

in another game involving a top team, twente managed to win very easily, and with this victory they are in position number 4 and with 30 points, the same points as AZ who are playing at the time of writing, in case AZ wins so they will have more than 30 points, but honestly the game is almost over so I doubt that AZ will win, so it will be counted as if they had drawn against utrecht. Leaving aside the results of the top teams, Ajax, who played against NEC, managed to win, it was an important victory for Ajax who are slowly approaching the top, they are still in position number 8

but I think that as there are still many games left for the league to finish, perhaps more than 20 games left, so there is still time for Ajax to at least be able to finish in a position to access European competitions, but this will depend on how Ajax will do when play against the current top teams. but I have no expectations that Ajax would be able to become champions, I think this is a mission that the team has no chance of, they should focus on 2nd and 3rd place
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December 03, 2023, 11:52:34 AM
Well guys, PSV opening a very big gap now after the win of today against Feyenoord, we have to be pure honest and yes, this PSV is by far the best team in the league and also they are doing good in europe, they sealed an amazing week after winning on Sevilla coming back from a 2-0 and now with this win.
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December 03, 2023, 07:37:51 AM
Is very fun to see Ajax already reach the european spots of the tournament after winning only a couples of games. That shows how weak are the other teams in this league, obviusly they still far away from the top 4 positions, but now they can start to play more calm.
Recently Ajax's has been showing some very tremendous improvement which I must say should be commended in their last five matches, they have been able to win one , this is much better as compared to their previous performance where they can losses five matches straight.

Moving out of relegation should be considered a great achievement for Ajax because at some point it was already looking like they may be relegated considering the facts they they were performing poorly in both the eredivisie and in the Europa where they were at the bottom of their group, if they can be able to make it back to the Europa spot in their domestic league table this quick enough then it's very possible they will finish top four before the end of the season.
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December 02, 2023, 06:40:49 PM
On Sunday we have one of key matches in Eredivisie this season - Feyenoord - PSV. If PSV will win it, they will have 10 points lead already. And yeah, we can't talk about winning league after 14 rounds, but 10 points would be very serious already. In tennis it would be called hidden championship point. While Feyenoord win would make everything very interesting again. Usually games between these teams is very high scoring, so, going with over 2.5 goals and BTTS looks like easy money, though odds aren't very attractive. Maybe worth to try going with over 3.5 @2.23? I just hope that this game won't be ruined by fans behaviour as it often happens in Eredivisie main games.
Other big teams have difficult away games - Twente vs G.A Eagles, AZ with Utrecht and Ajax against Nijmegen. So, we can expect that someone can drop points.
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Is very fun to see Ajax already reach the european spots of the tournament after winning only a couples of games. That shows how weak are the other teams in this league, obviusly they still far away from the top 4 positions, but now they can start to play more calm.
Ajax suffer this season, it's pretty bad to watch these players having nothing to prove this season. Ajax can still make it up for the top 4 only if they're consistent in upcoming games. They can do it, I know they're capable but they just need a match or events to ginger the players and the coach to emphasize on good records this season. I've never for a second, consider Eredivisie league as a competitive one because mere watching their matches, doesn't prove any form interest actions, rather its boring and full with average teams that can't even stand the pressure form European clubs.
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November 28, 2023, 02:12:07 PM
It's great to see that Ajax has a streak of 4 games without losing, although this result is thanks to having played against very weak teams, which is why it's difficult to know if they've really become strong again, or whether these latest victories are thanks to the luck they had of playing against weak teams, I see that in Ajax's next game against Olympique in the Europa League game it could give us an idea of how much Ajax has improved, and it is true that Olympique when they played against Ajax in the first leg , they drew 3 - 3 and it was in a period when ajax was going through bad performances, so at this moment ajax is going through a moment of improvement while olympique is declining in its local league, but like the league in which olympique plays is more superior in terms of quality compared to the league that ajax plays in

So Ajax beat Olympiqu in a comfortable way, that would give us an idea of what to expect from Ajax this season, I don't see Ajax having any luck to move on to another stage of the European League, but it's still not impossible for them, but at least they can do it. Victories in these 2 remaining games would clean up the image of Ajax, who have so far played 4 games in this group stage and have not won a single game. It's too humiliating, especially because it's a group that doesn't have any great teams, doesn't have any great teams fighting for the title in their local league. I hope Ajax wins the remaining 2 games in the Europa League. about the Eredivisie, unfortunately, even if Ajax recovers and wins, they will not be able to be champions

Ajax Is a top club as we have seen from previous seasons, where they were in the UCL and even reached the semi finals, Where they were knocked out by Tottenham, so it's a fact that they were a very good club, but since their former coach which led them to this 'success' Erik Ten hag left to Manchester united we've seen them struggle to even get to European competitions.

Ajax started this season quite poorly which saw their coach sacked now with the new coach it seems they have regained their form in their league, yes we can tag it so because when they were having poor run of form, no team was considered bad when beating Ajax, but it doesn't look the same in Europa as they still  didn't win their last game against Brighton and this makes it pretty hard for them to qualify to the knock out stages. This would be quite the test for their new coach and team, If they fail to qualify they can look to putting all effort into their league games and qualify for next year's European competitions.
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November 28, 2023, 08:17:34 AM
Is very fun to see Ajax already reach the european spots of the tournament after winning only a couples of games. That shows how weak are the other teams in this league, obviusly they still far away from the top 4 positions, but now they can start to play more calm.

Ajax have definitely made progress since the change of coach, winning three and drawing one of their last four games. But they are still 12 points off the European Cup places, four wins more than Twente at the moment. And the top four teams don't lose often either, so Ajax will need a very good and consistent performance to finish in the top four. The cup is the fifth place, if I'm not mistaken?

But if the Eredivisie manage to finish ahead of Portugal in the 5-year ranking, they will have 6 places and 2 Champions League participants? I can't see them finishing ahead of France.
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November 27, 2023, 12:17:47 PM
Is very fun to see Ajax already reach the european spots of the tournament after winning only a couples of games. That shows how weak are the other teams in this league, obviusly they still far away from the top 4 positions, but now they can start to play more calm.
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November 27, 2023, 09:47:49 AM
It's great to see that Ajax has a streak of 4 games without losing, although this result is thanks to having played against very weak teams, which is why it's difficult to know if they've really become strong again, or whether these latest victories are thanks to the luck they had of playing against weak teams, I see that in Ajax's next game against Olympique in the Europa League game it could give us an idea of how much Ajax has improved, and it is true that Olympique when they played against Ajax in the first leg , they drew 3 - 3 and it was in a period when ajax was going through bad performances, so at this moment ajax is going through a moment of improvement while olympique is declining in its local league, but like the league in which olympique plays is more superior in terms of quality compared to the league that ajax plays in

So Ajax beat Olympiqu in a comfortable way, that would give us an idea of what to expect from Ajax this season, I don't see Ajax having any luck to move on to another stage of the European League, but it's still not impossible for them, but at least they can do it. Victories in these 2 remaining games would clean up the image of Ajax, who have so far played 4 games in this group stage and have not won a single game. It's too humiliating, especially because it's a group that doesn't have any great teams, doesn't have any great teams fighting for the title in their local league. I hope Ajax wins the remaining 2 games in the Europa League. about the Eredivisie, unfortunately, even if Ajax recovers and wins, they will not be able to be champions

and will have gone 2 consecutive times without winning the Eredivisie, at this moment Ajax is struggling to get the luck of finishing in 3rd or 4th place, because I highly doubt that Jax will be able to catch up to Feyenoord and PSV. And talking about these two teams, they both won which means they are unstoppable, that is, as long as they are winning consecutively, the clearer it will become obvious that Ajax will not have a chance to finish in the first position and in the second position. and they will have to fight against AZ and Twente to be able to overcome them and have a place in European competitions, something that is not impossible to see AZ and Twente have many defeats to the point that Ajax catches them, but I think it will be difficult
A very interesting review, and it can be understood that Ajax chances of becoming Eredivisie champions have disappeared, and even before I thought that they could no longer be saved at the bottom of the standings, but I see that they have found a turning point in their performance so they can be consistent. We never know how long this form can last, but I don't think they will go into that red zone again.

On the other hand, in the European League, Ajax should also be able to spread their luck in the remaining two matches. It is true that if they continue to lose it would be very embarrassing and this incident would tarnish the club's history. The difference in points with PSV at the top of the standings has reached 24 points, it is impossible to wait for PSV to lose in their 8 matches, and this means Ajax must change their targets to be more realistic. Like 3rd or 4th position, other than that I think it's no longer possible.
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November 27, 2023, 05:24:34 AM
Ajax played their best game this season - they destroyed Vitesse 5:0 at home.
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agree, it was probably best game that Ajax played this season
and it is a sign that this international break did them good, I expect to see them climbing the leaderboard in following weeks, and eventually join play-off competition

PSV is unstoppable at the moment, they are simply destroying all opponents
Hopefully Ajax will return to winning for good this time. The last victory came with a lot of goals but it was against the last team in the standings. Same goes for Volendam. Almere isn't that top, yet they got a draw with them. A quite close opponent was Heerenveen and they knocked it with 4 goals to 1. Ajax scored 13 goals in these 4 matches which is equal to the number of goals scored in the first 8 matches. There is an improvement for sure and they should keep up that way!

It's great to see that Ajax has a streak of 4 games without losing, although this result is thanks to having played against very weak teams, which is why it's difficult to know if they've really become strong again, or whether these latest victories are thanks to the luck they had of playing against weak teams, I see that in Ajax's next game against Olympique in the Europa League game it could give us an idea of how much Ajax has improved, and it is true that Olympique when they played against Ajax in the first leg , they drew 3 - 3 and it was in a period when ajax was going through bad performances, so at this moment ajax is going through a moment of improvement while olympique is declining in its local league, but like the league in which olympique plays is more superior in terms of quality compared to the league that ajax plays in

So Ajax beat Olympiqu in a comfortable way, that would give us an idea of what to expect from Ajax this season, I don't see Ajax having any luck to move on to another stage of the European League, but it's still not impossible for them, but at least they can do it. Victories in these 2 remaining games would clean up the image of Ajax, who have so far played 4 games in this group stage and have not won a single game. It's too humiliating, especially because it's a group that doesn't have any great teams, doesn't have any great teams fighting for the title in their local league. I hope Ajax wins the remaining 2 games in the Europa League. about the Eredivisie, unfortunately, even if Ajax recovers and wins, they will not be able to be champions

and will have gone 2 consecutive times without winning the Eredivisie, at this moment Ajax is struggling to get the luck of finishing in 3rd or 4th place, because I highly doubt that Jax will be able to catch up to Feyenoord and PSV. And talking about these two teams, they both won which means they are unstoppable, that is, as long as they are winning consecutively, the clearer it will become obvious that Ajax will not have a chance to finish in the first position and in the second position. and they will have to fight against AZ and Twente to be able to overcome them and have a place in European competitions, something that is not impossible to see AZ and Twente have many defeats to the point that Ajax catches them, but I think it will be difficult
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