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December 15, 2023, 03:31:45 AM

It's most likely ajax is back in form and may likely further ascend to be amongst the top four on the table as they are currently few points away, although the team at the top of the table have got 42 points and which will mean ajax will have to continually win all of their recent games if they will at any point be able to displace the team at top. Nijmegen is another team that has been doing well in recent times as compared to their form last season.

Last season NEC was in 12th position at the end of the season and currently they are in 10th position. That is not a great improvement when compared to last season. Because there could be a change in position in the second half of the season. I just heard about the NEC club and they are a mediocre team so I rarely hear news about them. Let's wait and see how they perform at the end of the season, whether they can enter the top 10 or not.
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December 14, 2023, 11:07:24 AM
It is a very significant difference in the league in general unless the team that is trying to make up for it is called Ajax Amsterdam. If it was the other way around, nobody here would say that it is not significant if Ajax Amsterdam was 9 points ahead. I think in this case it is how the table is set up and everyone knows what Ajax Amsterdam has been able to do in some of the seasons in the past. They can go on a winning streak of something like 8 games or so and then they would have probably caught up with Alkmaar and Twente.

It seems I missed some important points that escaped my attention. I know that Akax is a very extraordinary team but to be honest I rarely watch the Eredivise unless it's a top club match. It seems that what you say is true, it seems that the difference of 9 points is not too far for a team like Ajax in the League. If you look at the previous season's records, I think they will be able to place themselves in the top 3 in the Eredivise again this season.
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December 12, 2023, 01:02:02 PM
Nine points gap its not significant with more than a half tournament ahead, also that mid teams like AZ Alkmaar or Twente always lack some extra faith or force in final instance and they ended up crumbling against the pressure and start to lose some points against weak tams, so Ajax come back for me its quite possible until third position.

It could be true as you have said. But I think teams like Twente and AZ Alkmaar are no longer mediocre teams. I don't really follow developments in the Eredivise but what differentiates between the best and mediocre teams is whether they have good squad depth or not. If I look at the previous two seasons, I see that Twente and Alkmaar are quite strong teams. But still, as you said, a difference of 9 points is not a big difference in eredivise.

It is a very significant difference in the league in general unless the team that is trying to make up for it is called Ajax Amsterdam. If it was the other way around, nobody here would say that it is not significant if Ajax Amsterdam was 9 points ahead. I think in this case it is how the table is set up and everyone knows what Ajax Amsterdam has been able to do in some of the seasons in the past. They can go on a winning streak of something like 8 games or so and then they would have probably caught up with Alkmaar and Twente.
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December 11, 2023, 07:31:23 AM

I keep thinking about how a team's coach is the most important part and makes a big difference, Ajax has gone 7 consecutive games without losing in the Eredivisie, although in some games they have won thanks to penalties, like the last game and the game From yesterday, they are improving and I agree with you that they will need to sign good players if they want to have a squad capable of competing with teams like PSV, but the question here will be whether they have the funds to make signings or whether they will be lucky to get good players for a very low price, the market in recent times has turned towards the Saudi league, that is, players close to retirement and those who do not have much chance of being able to play for a big team move to Saudi Arabia



yesterday AZ played against almere, in a game that on paper AZ was seen as the favorite to win the game, this is because their opponents were not strong, with only 1 victory in the last 4 games, almere came into this game with 3 games without winning, while AZ came from 2 defeats in the last 4 games and needed to win in this game to remain at the top, with Ajax quickly approaching the top, some teams like AZ and Twente will not have rest, the pressure will become more strong as Ajax wins, so AZ needed a victory and they managed to win the game comfortably. they managed to score 4 goals and only conceded 1 goal

Ajax have not been at their best performances but they've definitely been winning games and have been consistent to it, definitely a coach has his own impact in a team, once the head is faulty, there'll always be loopholes. It means a lot for a team to get victorious consecutively in a row and for Ajax, that's caused a gradual improvement regardless not doubting that they still have to put in more work. They've got players no doubt but the squad needs to be better, Ajax is a team better than a narrow win, at the moment though, finding the right player who's top and ready in all areas to give that competitive capacity in both the domestic league and the European leagues will be hard.

 Every team won't want to loose their kept men and every player that's be free are the ones that weren't so solid for the team. It's quite expensive to get for a team a high valued player no doubt and Ajax management may not likely be up to the task and it's going to be unsafe to settle for a less standard player, their winning consistency is good but they just have to find a way to stop the wins from occuring through a narrow means. The coach is good at what he does but he has to improve himself and the team too, once all the necessary characteristics needed are in place, then it'll be an easy ride for Ajax.
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December 11, 2023, 12:11:03 AM
Nine points gap its not significant with more than a half tournament ahead, also that mid teams like AZ Alkmaar or Twente always lack some extra faith or force in final instance and they ended up crumbling against the pressure and start to lose some points against weak tams, so Ajax come back for me its quite possible until third position.

It could be true as you have said. But I think teams like Twente and AZ Alkmaar are no longer mediocre teams. I don't really follow developments in the Eredivise but what differentiates between the best and mediocre teams is whether they have good squad depth or not. If I look at the previous two seasons, I see that Twente and Alkmaar are quite strong teams. But still, as you said, a difference of 9 points is not a big difference in eredivise.
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December 10, 2023, 09:02:08 AM

They were lucky to have scored 2 goals when the game was close to ending, but when you look at their opponent, it doesn't really justify that Feyenoord had such a lack of skills to score many goals early. Anyway, the fact is that there is a difference of 10 points in relation to PSV, and I highly doubt that Feyenoord will be able to reverse the current scenario. especially as long as PSV is winning games consecutively, yesterday PSV had another comfortable victory, they are having an excellent campaign this season, last season was also good for them, although they only managed 2nd place, but this season They have everything to be champions

ajax managed to win in their game, but honestly they won with a lot of difficulty and luck, thanks to the penalty, and they were playing against a weak opponent who is fighting to get close to the relegation zone, but even so ajax had difficulties to win, even There are a lot of things to fix at Ajax and without new players it will be difficult to compete at the same level with the top teams, I'm wondering what the Ajax coach will propose to Ajax's management in terms of signings to reverse the current scenario. because this season there is no way for Ajax to do much in terms of fighting for the title, that is already a lost cause, now they need to focus on not being relegated and preparing the team for next season
Feyenoord won’t pose much of a threat to PSV they might try to come close but I don’t think PSV will let this title slip out their hands. You can see from the way PSV plays every game and try to win the match that shows how serious they’re gunning for this league and they’ll sure have it as their reward for hardwork. They’ve got the squad depth to challenge and also they’ve got the drive to pull some big surprise at Europe’s top stage, the UCL.

 Ajax who’re regaining form managed to get all 3 points from the spot kick, though it was surprising as many thought Ajax will trail comfortably but this shows that there’s quite much work for the coach and his crew in terms of the players and new recruits. The January window will soon be on and he’ll need to get in some key players else he’ll probably lose form and go down the log. Ajax needs a good squad so as to challenge to get an European spot next season.

Speaking of Ajax, yesterday they played against Sparta Rotterda and managed to win the game and with this victory Ajax moves to position number 5 and they are very close to being in the positions that guarantee a place for European competitions, a funny fact and that just a few months ago ajax was at the bottom of the table fighting to get out of the relegation zone and today when I look at this image:



I keep thinking about how a team's coach is the most important part and makes a big difference, Ajax has gone 7 consecutive games without losing in the Eredivisie, although in some games they have won thanks to penalties, like the last game and the game From yesterday, they are improving and I agree with you that they will need to sign good players if they want to have a squad capable of competing with teams like PSV, but the question here will be whether they have the funds to make signings or whether they will be lucky to get good players for a very low price, the market in recent times has turned towards the Saudi league, that is, players close to retirement and those who do not have much chance of being able to play for a big team move to Saudi Arabia



yesterday AZ played against almere, in a game that on paper AZ was seen as the favorite to win the game, this is because their opponents were not strong, with only 1 victory in the last 4 games, almere came into this game with 3 games without winning, while AZ came from 2 defeats in the last 4 games and needed to win in this game to remain at the top, with Ajax quickly approaching the top, some teams like AZ and Twente will not have rest, the pressure will become more strong as Ajax wins, so AZ needed a victory and they managed to win the game comfortably. they managed to score 4 goals and only conceded 1 goal


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December 10, 2023, 02:44:44 AM
Ajax have tried to capitalize on errors that have gotten them all 3 points and these points gathered could see them slowly climbing up the log. Now teams who aren’t that up to quality, when they play Ajax they tend to seem shaky and Ajax will sure capitalize on that, I think they'll try their possible best to atleast get to the top of the battle.

The next matches are against PEC Zwolle and Go Aheads. There we will be able to see whether Ajax has returned to their positive trend and is gradually winning. But honestly, Ajax is a team that has a winning mentality. They can return to the top of the fight. Although I'm not sure they will be able to get first place, at least Ajax will get a place to qualify for the Champions League next season.
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December 09, 2023, 04:25:28 PM

The possibility of Ajax making a comeback from nine-point gap is reasonable. Indeed, in a tournament with more than half remaining, a nine-point gap can be considered manageable, especially for a big team like Ajax who has a strong mentality. The dynamics of mediocre teams facing pressure in the final instances and potentially dropping points against weaker opponents is a common pattern in football.

Ajax's performance in their couple games and their ability to capitalize on situations make a comeback plausible, especially if they can maintain consistency and capitalize on any slip-ups from teams above them. The competitive nature of football often leads to unexpected outcomes, and your observation about mediocre teams experiencing challenges under pressure adds an interesting dimension to the title race.
Ajax could have a come back from their poor form especially as they’re once champions and know the inside out of how to achieve success in this league. With quite a huge number of games, I think they should be given an opportunity on a run to close in on the point gap, at least the league hasn't gone very far and they still have the January window to bluster their team with new signings.

 Ajax have tried to capitalize on errors that have gotten them all 3 points and these points gathered could see them slowly climbing up the log. Now teams who aren’t that up to quality, when they play Ajax they tend to seem shaky and Ajax will sure capitalize on that, I think they'll try their possible best to atleast get to the top of the battle.
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December 09, 2023, 04:18:38 PM
I consider today another good day for Ajax as they were able to secure victory again and have finally seen their self in the top five team with 24 points, all thanks to their recent series of wins back to back, I think this happens to be their third win in a row recently , it's been winning streak in recent times.

It's most likely ajax is back in form and may likely further ascend to be amongst the top four on the table as they are currently few points away, although the team at the top of the table have got 42 points and which will mean ajax will have to continually win all of their recent games if they will at any point be able to displace the team at top. Nijmegen is another team that has been doing well in recent times as compared to their form last season.
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December 09, 2023, 12:49:11 PM
The main atraction in this season is gonna be if Ajax can recover the gap between them and the third spot.
For me seems like they are already wake up, and AZ is droping a lot of points, so maybe in the 3/4 of the season we can see Ajax surprasing them.
AZ Alkmaar has 30 points and Ajax 21 points. That's quite a difference in my opinion. Although Ajax won 4 of the last 5 matches and AZ Alkmaar lost a lot of points but I think we have to see a few more matches if Ajax can be consistent with their game.
I think Twente is still very strong this season. They will probably secure third place at the end of the season. For Ajax I think fourth or fifth is a fairly realistic target for now.
Nine points gap its not significant with more than a half tournament ahead, also that mid teams like AZ Alkmaar or Twente always lack some extra faith or force in final instance and they ended up crumbling against the pressure and start to lose some points against weak tams, so Ajax come back for me its quite possible until third position.
The possibility of Ajax making a comeback from nine-point gap is reasonable. Indeed, in a tournament with more than half remaining, a nine-point gap can be considered manageable, especially for a big team like Ajax who has a strong mentality. The dynamics of mediocre teams facing pressure in the final instances and potentially dropping points against weaker opponents is a common pattern in football.

Ajax's performance in their couple games and their ability to capitalize on situations make a comeback plausible, especially if they can maintain consistency and capitalize on any slip-ups from teams above them. The competitive nature of football often leads to unexpected outcomes, and your observation about mediocre teams experiencing challenges under pressure adds an interesting dimension to the title race.
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December 09, 2023, 10:44:07 AM
The main atraction in this season is gonna be if Ajax can recover the gap between them and the third spot.
For me seems like they are already wake up, and AZ is droping a lot of points, so maybe in the 3/4 of the season we can see Ajax surprasing them.

AZ Alkmaar has 30 points and Ajax 21 points. That's quite a difference in my opinion. Although Ajax won 4 of the last 5 matches and AZ Alkmaar lost a lot of points but I think we have to see a few more matches if Ajax can be consistent with their game.
I think Twente is still very strong this season. They will probably secure third place at the end of the season. For Ajax I think fourth or fifth is a fairly realistic target for now.

Nine points gap its not significant with more than a half tournament ahead, also that mid teams like AZ Alkmaar or Twente always lack some extra faith or force in final instance and they ended up crumbling against the pressure and start to lose some points against weak tams, so Ajax come back for me its quite possible until third position.
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December 09, 2023, 09:49:03 AM
The main atraction in this season is gonna be if Ajax can recover the gap between them and the third spot.
For me seems like they are already wake up, and AZ is droping a lot of points, so maybe in the 3/4 of the season we can see Ajax surprasing them.

AZ Alkmaar has 30 points and Ajax 21 points. That's quite a difference in my opinion. Although Ajax won 4 of the last 5 matches and AZ Alkmaar lost a lot of points but I think we have to see a few more matches if Ajax can be consistent with their game.
I think Twente is still very strong this season. They will probably secure third place at the end of the season. For Ajax I think fourth or fifth is a fairly realistic target for now.
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December 08, 2023, 03:45:11 PM
The main atraction in this season is gonna be if Ajax can recover the gap between them and the third spot.

For me seems like they are already wake up, and AZ is droping a lot of points, so maybe in the 3/4 of the season we can see Ajax surprasing them.
I agreed about comeback of Ajax as they are doing impressive job and having 4 wins from their last five games which bring them to sixth spot with their strength and quality are impressive, and they can bring themselves to the better spot before end of this season but still this is going to be one of the worst time for them, and they have to learn from their mistakes in the future.
Currently, we have one match between Twente vs Excelsior situation is very interesting as visitors take early lead by two goals but sadly 26th minute red card bring them down but still they are doing best and holds Twente from taking full three points score is 2–2, and we are in 80th minutes can they hold them for few more minutes action packed match is going to be had good end.

Edit: 81st minute goal from the super sub van Wolfswinkel bring Twente to winning position as it's his second goal of tonight.
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December 08, 2023, 11:20:35 AM
The main atraction in this season is gonna be if Ajax can recover the gap between them and the third spot.

For me seems like they are already wake up, and AZ is droping a lot of points, so maybe in the 3/4 of the season we can see Ajax surprasing them.
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December 08, 2023, 08:24:51 AM

They were lucky to have scored 2 goals when the game was close to ending, but when you look at their opponent, it doesn't really justify that Feyenoord had such a lack of skills to score many goals early. Anyway, the fact is that there is a difference of 10 points in relation to PSV, and I highly doubt that Feyenoord will be able to reverse the current scenario. especially as long as PSV is winning games consecutively, yesterday PSV had another comfortable victory, they are having an excellent campaign this season, last season was also good for them, although they only managed 2nd place, but this season They have everything to be champions

ajax managed to win in their game, but honestly they won with a lot of difficulty and luck, thanks to the penalty, and they were playing against a weak opponent who is fighting to get close to the relegation zone, but even so ajax had difficulties to win, even There are a lot of things to fix at Ajax and without new players it will be difficult to compete at the same level with the top teams, I'm wondering what the Ajax coach will propose to Ajax's management in terms of signings to reverse the current scenario. because this season there is no way for Ajax to do much in terms of fighting for the title, that is already a lost cause, now they need to focus on not being relegated and preparing the team for next season
Feyenoord won’t pose much of a threat to PSV they might try to come close but I don’t think PSV will let this title slip out their hands. You can see from the way PSV plays every game and try to win the match that shows how serious they’re gunning for this league and they’ll sure have it as their reward for hardwork. They’ve got the squad depth to challenge and also they’ve got the drive to pull some big surprise at Europe’s top stage, the UCL.

 Ajax who’re regaining form managed to get all 3 points from the spot kick, though it was surprising as many thought Ajax will trail comfortably but this shows that there’s quite much work for the coach and his crew in terms of the players and new recruits. The January window will soon be on and he’ll need to get in some key players else he’ll probably lose form and go down the log. Ajax needs a good squad so as to challenge to get an European spot next season.
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December 07, 2023, 05:51:22 PM
Today Feyenoord played against Volendam, in that game Feyenoord was already seen as the favorite to win the game since Volendam is currently in the last position of the table and has gone 5 games without winning while Feyenoord is currently in second place and in the last 5 games there was only 1 defeat. But what seemed easy on paper turned out to be the opposite on the field, Feyenoord managed to score a goal very early, still in the 1st half, but Volendam scored a goal 20 minutes later and with that the game was tied and the 1st half ended. in the 2 half Feyenoord had difficulty scoring more goals, they only managed to score goals after 90 minutes, I must say that even with more than 80% of the ball possession that Feyenoord had, they were still very ineffective in attack.

They were lucky to have scored 2 goals when the game was close to ending, but when you look at their opponent, it doesn't really justify that Feyenoord had such a lack of skills to score many goals early. Anyway, the fact is that there is a difference of 10 points in relation to PSV, and I highly doubt that Feyenoord will be able to reverse the current scenario. especially as long as PSV is winning games consecutively, yesterday PSV had another comfortable victory, they are having an excellent campaign this season, last season was also good for them, although they only managed 2nd place, but this season They have everything to be champions

ajax managed to win in their game, but honestly they won with a lot of difficulty and luck, thanks to the penalty, and they were playing against a weak opponent who is fighting to get close to the relegation zone, but even so ajax had difficulties to win, even There are a lot of things to fix at Ajax and without new players it will be difficult to compete at the same level with the top teams, I'm wondering what the Ajax coach will propose to Ajax's management in terms of signings to reverse the current scenario. because this season there is no way for Ajax to do much in terms of fighting for the title, that is already a lost cause, now they need to focus on not being relegated and preparing the team for next season
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December 07, 2023, 03:19:03 PM
Anyone knows who owns and what is the record of points in the Eredivisie history?. Because if PSV still in this path maybe they can broke some records, and that can be a very interesting thing to follow and catch for the team, to keep the concetration high when you see the second team far below.
If Wiki don't lie, this record belongs to Ajax, in 71/72 season they got 93 points from 102. So, now it looks that this record is possible to reach. Still, I don't believe that they will end season without defeats.
Today they reached another easy win, beating Heerenveen 2:0. Meanwhile Feyenoord is leading vs Volendam 1:0 after 20 minutes.
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December 07, 2023, 01:16:51 PM
I see PSV as too superior and really strong in the League. They have a goal difference almost twice as big as second place. They are also the team that has conceded the fewest goals in the League, as well as scoring the most goals in the League. This is a crazy record. Will they end the season without defeat, and repeat what Arsenal did in the 2003/2004 premier league?

They are also quite good in the Champions League. I think they will be able to reach at least the quarterfinals or maybe the semifinals.

Ajax looks to be struggling this season. They also performed poorly in the UEFA European League by not achieving a single win. There is a huge difference between the two teams this season.
Ajax being sixth and even half the points the leader, it's clear that PSV is the best team in the league right now. I mean Ajax will not stay there for too long, we are talking about a team that played semi finals just a few years ago, they sold all their good players and made a lot of money, so they are going to keep on spending that money on finding cheap great future stars like they always do and that should be something that will take some time.

But during that time, PSV knows that they do not have too much left, they need to do the best they could do for the next few years, they have maybe max 5 years left, and they need to end up winning as much cups and titles as they could in order to get the best out of it.
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December 07, 2023, 10:59:14 AM
Anyone knows who owns and what is the record of points in the Eredivisie history?. Because if PSV still in this path maybe they can broke some records, and that can be a very interesting thing to follow and catch for the team, to keep the concetration high when you see the second team far below.
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December 07, 2023, 10:35:34 AM

I see PSV as too superior and really strong in the League. They have a goal difference almost twice as big as second place. They are also the team that has conceded the fewest goals in the League, as well as scoring the most goals in the League. This is a crazy record. Will they end the season without defeat, and repeat what Arsenal did in the 2003/2004 premier league?

They are also quite good in the Champions League. I think they will be able to reach at least the quarterfinals or maybe the semifinals.

Ajax looks to be struggling this season. They also performed poorly in the UEFA European League by not achieving a single win. There is a huge difference between the two teams this season.
This season, PSV's form is Excellent with 14 wins and no draw or lose. This performance currently places PSV at 1st out of 18 teams in the Eredivisie League. PSV's home form is excellent with the following results : 7 wins, 0 draws, and 0 losses. And their away form is considered excellent, as a result of 7 wins, 0 draws, and 0 losses.

 PSV has scored a total of 50 goals this season in Eredivisie. That’s quite massive, for them them to do the invincible of Arsenal well it’s very possible especially if they’ll get out of the UCL early and focus majorly on the league, they’re a surprise team this season in Europe. Their counterparts, Ajax are doing quite bad and poor but they’re already turning the situation around for their good.
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