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October 24, 2023, 09:42:15 AM
I think it was a decision taken too late. For the first time in the league I have seen such a bad Ajax team and they are at the bottom of the league with one win.
The manager Steijn may be a good or bad manager, but we have seen that he has not been able to make things work with Ajax and he will try his luck with another team from now on. Especially after selling their star players one by one, Ajax will try to do their best to recover with a new manager.
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October 24, 2023, 09:24:29 AM
After losing the game against Utrecht and finishing second last in the table, the club finally took action and fired the coach. John van't Schip is being considered as the successor, and the coach is said to have a high standing and be popular with the fans?

I think this is the worst season ever for Ajax this year.

Ajax Amsterdam trennt sich von Trainer Steijn

Man is incredible to see how bad they are, seems like they are in a competition with Lyon to see who is the worst one. I cant believe how two HUGE teams can be so bad from one season to another having really good teams.

I hope to start to see Ajax coming back.
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October 24, 2023, 06:18:07 AM
After losing the game against Utrecht and finishing second last in the table, the club finally took action and fired the coach. John van't Schip is being considered as the successor, and the coach is said to have a high standing and be popular with the fans?

I think this is the worst season ever for Ajax this year.

Ajax Amsterdam trennt sich von Trainer Steijn
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October 24, 2023, 12:21:45 AM
after lose from Utrecht, Ajax is playing PSV, can't be harder for them
but Volendam, that is currently rock-bottom, is playing Excelsior, and in case they win, and Ajax don't win over PSV that has all wins so far, Ajax will be rock bottom in Ere, what a feat to make

if that happens, it will probably mark decision moment for them, can't get worst than that

but first Europa league for them, against Brighton, and they are solid there, two draws so far

Recording losing streaks in league games and they still have competitive opponents to face this season. For the season, crucial defeats have been the order of the day for de Godenzonen. It's not a good start for them. This devastating circumstances in which Ajax found themselves happens to all elite teams over the course of season; perhaps every team has a season where they tend to record poor performance but actually bounce back to good form, but in the case of Ajax, I believe it will take a long time for them to realize themselves and retest back to their former glory. They're 17th in the Eredivisie league, virtually in the relegation zone, an enormous punch in the face for such a prestigious club. The board has fired the existing coach, Maurice Steijn, and has temporarily replaced him with Hedwiges Maduro.
A nightmare start to the season for Ajax. They lost 4-3 to Utrecht in the last match, and these defeats make Ajax seem very far from the old, strong and fearful Ajax team. Their next match is against their arch-rivals PSV, and PSV is leading the league with 9/9 wins. The favorite in this match is of course PSV.
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October 24, 2023, 12:12:03 AM
after lose from Utrecht, Ajax is playing PSV, can't be harder for them
but Volendam, that is currently rock-bottom, is playing Excelsior, and in case they win, and Ajax don't win over PSV that has all wins so far, Ajax will be rock bottom in Ere, what a feat to make

if that happens, it will probably mark decision moment for them, can't get worst than that

but first Europa league for them, against Brighton, and they are solid there, two draws so far

Recording losing streaks in league games and they still have competitive opponents to face this season. For the season, crucial defeats have been the order of the day for de Godenzonen. It's not a good start for them. This devastating circumstances in which Ajax found themselves happens to all elite teams over the course of season; perhaps every team has a season where they tend to record poor performance but actually bounce back to good form, but in the case of Ajax, I believe it will take a long time for them to realize themselves and retest back to their former glory. They're 17th in the Eredivisie league, virtually in the relegation zone, an enormous punch in the face for such a prestigious club. The board has fired the existing coach, Maurice Steijn, and has temporarily replaced him with Hedwiges Maduro.
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October 23, 2023, 11:14:16 PM
after lose from Utrecht, Ajax is playing PSV, can't be harder for them
but Volendam, that is currently rock-bottom, is playing Excelsior, and in case they win, and Ajax don't win over PSV that has all wins so far, Ajax will be rock bottom in Ere, what a feat to make

if that happens, it will probably mark decision moment for them, can't get worst than that

but first Europa league for them, against Brighton, and they are solid there, two draws so far


Brighton in two days time can be well managed.  Whoever in charge will be pressured to win

Ajax won't be rock bottom when they go all out to face League leaders PSV. So far so good, Ahax has taken the decision best for the interest of the club and the fans. They have just parted ways with their coach. So many coaches jobless now, who will get to it first.

Brighton are not so hard to beat only if you control the game better than they do. They have a tactical coach.
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October 23, 2023, 02:59:43 PM
after lose from Utrecht, Ajax is playing PSV, can't be harder for them
but Volendam, that is currently rock-bottom, is playing Excelsior, and in case they win, and Ajax don't win over PSV that has all wins so far, Ajax will be rock bottom in Ere, what a feat to make

if that happens, it will probably mark decision moment for them, can't get worst than that

but first Europa league for them, against Brighton, and they are solid there, two draws so far
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October 23, 2023, 02:06:56 PM
The top teams have all won their games and you have to scroll down all the way to the bottom of the table to find Ajax Amsterdam there. There is still one game left for them to catch up and it would make it look slightly less dramatic if they win it, but doing the math and seeing that Ajax Amsterdam is 22 points behind PSV Eindhoven when about 25% of the season games have been played was unthinkable even in the worst of the worst case scenarios. There is no coming back this season and now it is all about performing damage control. All of the top teams are looking great and are constantly adding points, which really makes it impossible apparently for Ajax Amsterdam to win anything of value this season.
Top three teams are without any defeat in their first 9 games which is impressive and most chances as they are widening gape no other team could be challenge them for the these spots Twente losing his ground but still having some chance for the staying at this spot but right now miserable Ajax is talk of the soccer community as after playing seven games they are at the bottom of Eredivisie table just one win and four defeats are clearly indicating how things are going for them in this season.

They still have chance for the jump but this need some improvement and good motivation which will allow them to have better performance and bounce back from this situation in coming weeks they have no easy time but most chances we can expect good chance in November which will bring good chance for them to improve their rank and performance as well.

Yes but if I was a dreamer with a lot of fantasy, I still can't come up with a dream that has Ajax Amsterdam start a catch-up run and make up for this horrific start of the season. I remember some really wild turn of events when teams were able to find back to their old strength and win like 10 games in a row, but this would still not be enough to be in touch with the top of the table again. Ajax Amsterdam has 2 games in reserve and if they win them both, they are at 11 points and PSV is at 27 points. If Ajax were to win 10 games in a a row, PSV would have to lose 5 of those 10 games and have one draw and then they would be equal in points, but that's not going to happen as all three PSV, AZ and Feyenoord are performing like monsters.
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October 22, 2023, 03:23:43 PM
The top teams have all won their games and you have to scroll down all the way to the bottom of the table to find Ajax Amsterdam there. There is still one game left for them to catch up and it would make it look slightly less dramatic if they win it, but doing the math and seeing that Ajax Amsterdam is 22 points behind PSV Eindhoven when about 25% of the season games have been played was unthinkable even in the worst of the worst case scenarios. There is no coming back this season and now it is all about performing damage control. All of the top teams are looking great and are constantly adding points, which really makes it impossible apparently for Ajax Amsterdam to win anything of value this season.
Top three teams are without any defeat in their first 9 games which is impressive and most chances as they are widening gape no other team could be challenge them for the these spots Twente losing his ground but still having some chance for the staying at this spot but right now miserable Ajax is talk of the soccer community as after playing seven games they are at the bottom of Eredivisie table just one win and four defeats are clearly indicating how things are going for them in this season.

They still have chance for the jump but this need some improvement and good motivation which will allow them to have better performance and bounce back from this situation in coming weeks they have no easy time but most chances we can expect good chance in November which will bring good chance for them to improve their rank and performance as well.
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October 22, 2023, 03:14:53 PM
Too bad they just had their 4th defeat against a team that where at the bottom on the table and now they've allowed Utrecht to be ahead of them in the relegation zone, it's unbelievable to see that one of the biggest team in the Eredivisie league only has 5 points out of 9 matches, their performance is very poor this season and I doubt if they'll be able to finish in the top 10 this season, and if care is not taken they may be relegated it would be to shameful to the board if that happens.

I don't know whats wrong and why the team is failing to perform better but they need to act fast and work together as a team to start performing better and atleast go out of the relegation zone and finish in a more better position before they start the rebuilding process, I think alot of changes has to be made in the team.
This is the first time in a long time that Ajax are so far away from the title race.They need to find the reason for this as soon as possible or things will get worse for them. It doesn't make sense for Ajax to suffer their 4th defeat while their rivals continue undefeated.In the Utrecht match, I expected them to win, but we saw that they didn't play very well in the match.As you said as a team, it seems difficult for them to be among the top 10 teams at this rate.The management should take tough decisions and maybe call everyone in the team to a meeting and ask what is going on.

Damn, Ajax is hitting new bottom with every game they play. And loss against Utrecht probably can't be even called as surprise. Ajax didn't had any advantage today and when you concede 4th goal and lose game on 90th minute, that hurts even more. Next week they have EL game with Brighton and then away vs PSV and there is any good signs for them before these games.
Twente burned my bet. I already thought it will be easy after they got 2:0 lead, but in 2nd half Heracles made a comeback and took 2:2 draw.
In fact, they managed to turn the match around when they were down 2-0. Although they scored 3 goals in about 13 minutes and went 3-2 ahead, they could not protect the score and lost 4-3. Interestingly, the fact that they could not protect the score in the match in which they were ahead shows that there are big problems.
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October 22, 2023, 03:02:11 PM
Ajax's downward spiral continues. Having lost 4-3 away to Utrecht today, Ajax are crawling in the relegation zone. They need to take radical changes as soon as possible or this season will end badly for them. With 1 win in 7 games, I think Ajax hasn't performed this badly in a long time. Utrecht, on the other hand, managed to increase their points to 6 with this win and overtake their opponent with more than a game to spare. I don't know how they will recover, but if they don't, we might even see Ajax relegated. Losing 4-3 to perhaps the worst team in the league at the moment shows that things are not going well at all.
Damn, Ajax is hitting new bottom with every game they play. And loss against Utrecht probably can't be even called as surprise. Ajax didn't had any advantage today and when you concede 4th goal and lose game on 90th minute, that hurts even more. Next week they have EL game with Brighton and then away vs PSV and there is any good signs for them before these games.
Twente burned my bet. I already thought it will be easy after they got 2:0 lead, but in 2nd half Heracles made a comeback and took 2:2 draw.
Ajax surely having terrible time with now things are going more bad with as mentioned games against Brighton and PSV could be bringing more poor results with they have to stay at bottom for few more weeks and things are surely had not shortcut for them to improve and have positive results which bring them out of this jail in quick time.

Today as they have three quick goals I was expecting good chance, but suddenly we have no goals which kill all positive hopes for this legendary club but still I was able to secure my bet for the over3.5 because I was expecting rain of goals which happen in this match after this I also secure next with Twente over because on road their performance is not good so instead going for ML I try with over which also work and give me good profit in today business.
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October 22, 2023, 12:34:41 PM
Ajax's downward spiral continues. Having lost 4-3 away to Utrecht today, Ajax are crawling in the relegation zone. They need to take radical changes as soon as possible or this season will end badly for them. With 1 win in 7 games, I think Ajax hasn't performed this badly in a long time. Utrecht, on the other hand, managed to increase their points to 6 with this win and overtake their opponent with more than a game to spare. I don't know how they will recover, but if they don't, we might even see Ajax relegated. Losing 4-3 to perhaps the worst team in the league at the moment shows that things are not going well at all.
Damn, Ajax is hitting new bottom with every game they play. And loss against Utrecht probably can't be even called as surprise. Ajax didn't had any advantage today and when you concede 4th goal and lose game on 90th minute, that hurts even more. Next week they have EL game with Brighton and then away vs PSV and there is any good signs for them before these games.
Twente burned my bet. I already thought it will be easy after they got 2:0 lead, but in 2nd half Heracles made a comeback and took 2:2 draw.
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October 22, 2023, 12:15:18 PM
No way man, this have to be a joke, or a nightmare, how Ajax can perform this bad? I dont find any real explanation, now they not only lose, they also receive 4! goals from Utrech, i dont know what is really happening i know mental health is very important , but this is beyond compresion.
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October 22, 2023, 10:55:50 AM
Ajax's downward spiral continues. Having lost 4-3 away to Utrecht today, Ajax are crawling in the relegation zone. They need to take radical changes as soon as possible or this season will end badly for them. With 1 win in 7 games, I think Ajax hasn't performed this badly in a long time. Utrecht, on the other hand, managed to increase their points to 6 with this win and overtake their opponent with more than a game to spare. I don't know how they will recover, but if they don't, we might even see Ajax relegated. Losing 4-3 to perhaps the worst team in the league at the moment shows that things are not going well at all.
Too bad they just had their 4th defeat against a team that where at the bottom on the table and now they've allowed Utrecht to be ahead of them in the relegation zone, it's unbelievable to see that one of the biggest team in the Eredivisie league only has 5 points out of 9 matches, their performance is very poor this season and I doubt if they'll be able to finish in the top 10 this season, and if care is not taken they may be relegated it would be to shameful to the board if that happens.

 I don't know whats wrong and why the team is failing to perform better but they need to act fast and work together as a team to start performing better and atleast go out of the relegation zone and finish in a more better position before they start the rebuilding process, I think alot of changes has to be made in the team.
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October 22, 2023, 10:46:44 AM
Oh, oh, oh, Lucky Ajax just couldn't do anything right, could they? Fantastic comeback to get to 3-2, and then the inevitable happened, snatching a draw from the jaws of victory, and then they also kinda lost their heads in the end. And that wholly unnecessary conclusion truly didn't have to happen but are we even surprised anymore? Game suspended, I suspect we'll see even more punishment after this.

Bookies wisened up too so I haven't even found good odds lately against them... will they be value bets next game with a win though? Or should we just call the mortician early?

Ajax are in a huge crisis this season and I don't know whether they can find a way out soon. They have been able to collect only 5 points in 7 matches.  Sad  This is quite embarrassing statistics for a big team like Ajax. Since the end of the Erik ten Hag era they haven't even been able to maintain the same level.

Today against Utrecht that comeback should have helped Ajax win. I thought they really deserved it after watching that ambition. But they just couldn't do anything about Utrecht's doing the same against them.

Ajax must look for all their options about what they can do for their defense especially. 16 goals conceded so far...
I just hope ajax doesn't end up at the relegation this season because they are yet to look like they will get any better anytime soon, their performance has dropped so badly unlike their performance in the past season were they would win Several games in a roll but now they find it difficult at one they literally got all their points struggling to draw .

I'm still hoping by the end of the season thy would be able to avoid relegation and have improved much and hope to get back at their best form by next season because this season it will really be hard for them to get back on track fully, they would need to work on their tactics, make good use of the window by January to replace some players and probably get along with their new coach, but they should be more focused on avoiding relegation at this time
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October 22, 2023, 10:40:32 AM
Ajax's downward spiral continues. Having lost 4-3 away to Utrecht today, Ajax are crawling in the relegation zone. They need to take radical changes as soon as possible or this season will end badly for them. With 1 win in 7 games, I think Ajax hasn't performed this badly in a long time. Utrecht, on the other hand, managed to increase their points to 6 with this win and overtake their opponent with more than a game to spare. I don't know how they will recover, but if they don't, we might even see Ajax relegated. Losing 4-3 to perhaps the worst team in the league at the moment shows that things are not going well at all.
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October 22, 2023, 10:26:58 AM
Oh, oh, oh, Lucky Ajax just couldn't do anything right, could they? Fantastic comeback to get to 3-2, and then the inevitable happened, snatching a draw from the jaws of victory, and then they also kinda lost their heads in the end. And that wholly unnecessary conclusion truly didn't have to happen but are we even surprised anymore? Game suspended, I suspect we'll see even more punishment after this.

Bookies wisened up too so I haven't even found good odds lately against them... will they be value bets next game with a win though? Or should we just call the mortician early?

Ajax are in a huge crisis this season and I don't know whether they can find a way out soon. They have been able to collect only 5 points in 7 matches.  Sad  This is quite embarrassing statistics for a big team like Ajax. Since the end of the Erik ten Hag era they haven't even been able to maintain the same level.

Today against Utrecht that comeback should have helped Ajax win. I thought they really deserved it after watching that ambition. But they just couldn't do anything about Utrecht's doing the same against them.

Ajax must look for all their options about what they can do for their defense especially. 16 goals conceded so far...
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October 22, 2023, 07:33:27 AM
Oh, oh, oh, Lucky Ajax just couldn't do anything right, could they? Fantastic comeback to get to 3-2, and then the inevitable happened, snatching a draw from the jaws of victory, and then tey also kinda lost their heads in the end. And that wholly unnecessary conclusion truly didn't have to happen but are we even surprised anymore? Game suspended, I suspect we'll see even more punishment after this.

Bookies wisened up too so I haven't even found good odds lately against them... will they be value bets next game with a win though? Or should we just call the mortician early?
Ajax used to be the Champions of the league during Erik Ten Hag's era but since he left the club they've now become a shadow of themselves and are underperforming currently, I believe its because they've also sold most of their important players this summer without suitable replacement, therefore the club needs to restructure their team by recruiting the right manager and players if they want to start doing better again.

 Ajax are currently in the 16th position and have only got 6 points from 7 games that's a very poor record and they're even losing currently against Utrecht after having a comeback in the 65th minute they carelessly conceded 2 more goals, one at around 71mins and another before the extra mins, the match was binterrupted at the 3rd minutes of the extra time due to crowd distribance but the game is still on though it would soon come to an end, Utrecht are leading with 4-3
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October 22, 2023, 07:32:44 AM
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Game suspended, I suspect we'll see even more punishment after this.

Bookies wisened up too so I haven't even found good odds lately against them... will they be value bets next game with a win though? Or should we just call the mortician early?

and now another goal from Utrecht
what can be said about Ajax this season, was thinking about them as value bets, but they seem to be direct opposite, bookies see them as favorites, even today odds were below @2, but they obviously would not make, maybe a draw, but that is not likely at this position

what a shameful situation for them
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October 22, 2023, 07:14:53 AM
Oh, oh, oh, Lucky Ajax just couldn't do anything right, could they? Fantastic comeback to get to 3-2, and then the inevitable happened, snatching a draw from the jaws of victory, and then they also kinda lost their heads in the end. And that wholly unnecessary conclusion truly didn't have to happen but are we even surprised anymore? Game suspended, I suspect we'll see even more punishment after this.

Bookies wisened up too so I haven't even found good odds lately against them... will they be value bets next game with a win though? Or should we just call the mortician early?
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