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September 26, 2023, 02:45:25 PM
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It's not just about Ajax, but in general, similar things happens in almost every big game involved by Ajax, Feyenoord, PSV or Twente. What's wrong with this league? I hope that league finally will take serious actions because such things can't continue.

agree here, that is not even happening in our local league anymore, and Ere should be much more serious league than those
and after having several incidents last season (you missed Groningen in the list, they had also interrupted match last season, if I am not mistaken), this is really embarrassing for Ajax

nevertheless, with match continuing tomorrow, without any punishment for Ajax so far, I think we will see more of those in the future
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September 26, 2023, 11:20:47 AM
I don't know what is more shameful - how Ajax is playing or how their fans is behaving. 0:3 after 45 minutes and soon in 2nd half fans started throwing flares into pitch. As I understand, game is abandoned and won't be resumed.
https://twitter.com/TheEuropeanLad/status/1705946868880904224
It's not just about Ajax, but in general, similar things happens in almost every big game involved by Ajax, Feyenoord, PSV or Twente. What's wrong with this league? I hope that league finally will take serious actions because such things can't continue.

There is nothing shameful about Ajax loosing to neighbors Feyenoord by 3 goals; its a game of football; Sheffield United were defeated at home by Newcastle United with 8 goals and there was no fans intrusion or game disruption either and there was no attack on players or properties.

On the other hand; it is shameful what the Ajax fans did to the game, the stadium and the Eredivisie league; and it is more shameful that after 12 hours there has not been any report detailing arrest of those thugs who vandalized the stadium. I really hope Eredivisie hits Ajax with strong sanctions and point deductions; to ensure that such is not allowed to repeat itself anymore.

Eredivisie has to separate football from fan violence and thugs!

I can see your point, but asides of that it is a shamefull to lose a derby in the first half for 3-0, its not the same a normal game of the league or a national derby, you have to know that.

And the risk to ended up losing by a big margin its very big.
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September 25, 2023, 12:47:28 PM
I don't know what is more shameful - how Ajax is playing or how their fans is behaving. 0:3 after 45 minutes and soon in 2nd half fans started throwing flares into pitch. As I understand, game is abandoned and won't be resumed.
https://twitter.com/TheEuropeanLad/status/1705946868880904224
It's not just about Ajax, but in general, similar things happens in almost every big game involved by Ajax, Feyenoord, PSV or Twente. What's wrong with this league? I hope that league finally will take serious actions because such things can't continue.

There is nothing shameful about Ajax loosing to neighbors Feyenoord by 3 goals; its a game of football; Sheffield United were defeated at home by Newcastle United with 8 goals and there was no fans intrusion or game disruption either and there was no attack on players or properties.

On the other hand; it is shameful what the Ajax fans did to the game, the stadium and the Eredivisie league; and it is more shameful that after 12 hours there has not been any report detailing arrest of those thugs who vandalized the stadium. I really hope Eredivisie hits Ajax with strong sanctions and point deductions; to ensure that such is not allowed to repeat itself anymore.

Eredivisie has to separate football from fan violence and thugs!
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September 25, 2023, 11:54:30 AM
Yesterday we missed the fall of another team, we are all seeing the shit game of Ajax but also Twente make a bad game, and eded up losing against Waaljvik, very bad for them losing the wagon of up front. If they want to fight for anything important you cant lose this matches.
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September 25, 2023, 07:37:23 AM
Another dark game in the history and current situation of Ajax Amsterdam, 3 goals down despite having much more possession, then the fan riots, the interruption and finally the abandonment of the game.

Mislintat has now also been fired, I can't assess it 100% but I think it's good that he's leaving Ajax, allegedly he ignored the talent scouts and with the transfer of Borna Sosa not everything went right.
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September 24, 2023, 11:40:45 AM
I don't know what is more shameful - how Ajax is playing or how their fans is behaving. 0:3 after 45 minutes and soon in 2nd half fans started throwing flares into pitch. As I understand, game is abandoned and won't be resumed.
https://twitter.com/TheEuropeanLad/status/1705946868880904224
It's not just about Ajax, but in general, similar things happens in almost every big game involved by Ajax, Feyenoord, PSV or Twente. What's wrong with this league? I hope that league finally will take serious actions because such things can't continue.

I dont want to be that annoying guy who said " I said it" , but if anyone relook the thread i said in the beginning of the season this Ajax not start well and also can be very bad if they dont wake up fast, but asides of that thinking i dont expect this bad, they have a very good team in names, i dont really kinow what its happen.
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September 24, 2023, 11:31:34 AM
I don't know what is more shameful - how Ajax is playing or how their fans is behaving. 0:3 after 45 minutes and soon in 2nd half fans started throwing flares into pitch. As I understand, game is abandoned and won't be resumed.
https://twitter.com/TheEuropeanLad/status/1705946868880904224
It's not just about Ajax, but in general, similar things happens in almost every big game involved by Ajax, Feyenoord, PSV or Twente. What's wrong with this league? I hope that league finally will take serious actions because such things can't continue.

From what I heard on TV, in the next few days KNVB will make a decision on what punishment to apply for what happened in this game. but the TV commentators who saw this news said that it is more likely that the KNVB will decide that the game is over and will give victory to Feyenoord. Now in my opinion they should ban people from bringing things that cause any danger during games and as punishment Ajax should be banned from having fans watching the game on the field for many games. because if the KNVB imposed a fine it would only bankrupt the teams, something that in my opinion would not put an end to this type of shameful behavior.



Yesterday PSV played against Amere in a game in which PSV was being seen as the favorite to win the game and as expected PSV won the game very easily, they managed to score 4 goals and did not concede any goals, with this victory convincingly PSV shows that this season they are fighting and I had already commented on this months ago that this season PSV and Feyenoord will be competing with each other for the title and that Ajax would be bad like last season, that's because I didn't see Ajax signing a good coach and their squad isn't the best either and they didn't convince me that they could fight for the title. I believe that most Ajax fans will have already realized that this season Ajax will not win the Eredivisie either.

although there have only been 4 games in which ajax has played and with 4 games we could think that it is still too early to think that ajax will not be able to win the title, in the 4 games they only won in just 1 game and today in the game against Feyenoord, if the game had reached the 90th minute, it was clear that Ajax would lose the game and knowing that Feyenoord are the current champions and candidates to win the Eredivisie again, this meant that Ajax fans were unable to contain their frustration and did what we saw, a very reprehensible attitude that must be punished. but it is clear that feyenoord and psv and az and twente so far are the 4 teams that are doing well and that feyenoord and psv one of them will be champion
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September 24, 2023, 09:34:23 AM
I don't know what is more shameful - how Ajax is playing or how their fans is behaving. 0:3 after 45 minutes and soon in 2nd half fans started throwing flares into pitch. As I understand, game is abandoned and won't be resumed.
https://twitter.com/TheEuropeanLad/status/1705946868880904224
It's not just about Ajax, but in general, similar things happens in almost every big game involved by Ajax, Feyenoord, PSV or Twente. What's wrong with this league? I hope that league finally will take serious actions because such things can't continue.
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September 23, 2023, 03:17:38 AM
They need to wake up NOW.

In any case, Ajax now has a great need for action, but coach Maurice Steijn has only been in office for a short time, so he still has to improve a lot, otherwise he will soon no longer be a coach at Ajax Amsterdam.

In the previous season, Ajax had many departures and almost no additions, and that's when the dilemma started, when they saved up to the last, but probably the biggest mistake was to let Erik ten Hag go, but against Manchester United it's hard to keep the coach.
Looking at Ajax's performance in the first four matches of this season, I don't think Ajax will challenge for the title this year. So I think they created quite good chemistry between the coach and the game tactics. I hope Ajax can at least qualify for the Champions League next season but it seems UEFA is the most realistic. This is a tough job for Maurice Steijn because currently he has to rebuild the Ajax squad. So giving a little time to the coach is a good option I think.
legendary
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September 20, 2023, 09:38:36 AM
They need to wake up NOW.

In any case, Ajax now has a great need for action, but coach Maurice Steijn has only been in office for a short time, so he still has to improve a lot, otherwise he will soon no longer be a coach at Ajax Amsterdam.

In the previous season, Ajax had many departures and almost no additions, and that's when the dilemma started, when they saved up to the last, but probably the biggest mistake was to let Erik ten Hag go, but against Manchester United it's hard to keep the coach.
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September 18, 2023, 08:10:26 AM
I was a bit sceptical reading comments few weeks ago that Ajax isn't title contender this season, but after watching their game with Twente, it's difficult to believe in them. Now they doesn't looks like a team which have something to fight for title. It's just 4 rounds, but all their main rivals is looking strong and they're already far away. Chair of Ajax coach is getting hot and I'm not sure how much time he will get, though, he isn't main problem.

So Ajax with this budget and possibilities in the Netherlands must always be a title contender, but you mention it, if there is not a quick improvement at Ajax, the coach will no longer be sitting in the chair at the end of October, I think the responsible people at Ajax will already be looking for a suitable candidate.

I was one of the guys who said that, and man, i still think that, but i cant understand why they are playing so bad, its a non sense, when you see the players they have they have a very good squad, i dont know what its happening, but its not looking good.

They need to wake up NOW.
legendary
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September 18, 2023, 07:30:25 AM
I was a bit sceptical reading comments few weeks ago that Ajax isn't title contender this season, but after watching their game with Twente, it's difficult to believe in them. Now they doesn't looks like a team which have something to fight for title. It's just 4 rounds, but all their main rivals is looking strong and they're already far away. Chair of Ajax coach is getting hot and I'm not sure how much time he will get, though, he isn't main problem.

So Ajax with this budget and possibilities in the Netherlands must always be a title contender, but you mention it, if there is not a quick improvement at Ajax, the coach will no longer be sitting in the chair at the end of October, I think the responsible people at Ajax will already be looking for a suitable candidate.
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September 17, 2023, 06:36:09 PM
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The two big teams that are at the top, I'm talking about Feyenoord and PSV, will have easy games in the league, but the problem is that a few days later there will be games in the European Champions League, I'm wondering if the coaches will choose not to put their best players on the field in the next league game or will save players for the European champions league games



it does seem logical to have best player rest before important matches, but these first matches in CL, and except if Feyenoord and PSV do prefer CL over Ere, I don't expect to see much players rested before first round
maybe later during the season this could be an issue, but at this point, player should be good enough to play two times a week

with all said, how do you estimate their chances in CL groups, will any of them pass group?

In my opinion, PSV has a good chance of moving on to another stage in the Champions League, I say this because Sevilla, despite being a team in a big league like La Liga and last season having won the European League, in this season Sevilla is not doing well, yesterday they won in their first game, they had already come from 3 consecutive defeats when they played against opponents that are not strong, and even yesterday they only managed to score just 1 goal when playing against one of the weakest opponents in the league who in 5 games he did not win in any and only scored 1 goal in 5 games, he was an extremely easy opponent for Sevilla

Lens is another team that is also not doing well in Ligue1, despite Ligue1 being a better league than the Eredivisie in terms of money spent and attraction, but even so, Lens in 4 games did not win in any game, only managing to score 2 goals. we could say that they played against two strong teams like PSG and Monaco so they lost points, but PSG is weak and in this last game they played against Metz which is not a strong team but they defeated Lens, that's why I see PSV having chances of being able to beat Sevilla and Lens and may be able to draw against Arsenal



well, the numbers don't lie, twente scored 3 goals and ajax only scored 1 goal and lost the game. Before this season started I said that Ajax would be a disaster, that's because I didn't see any big signings, but they made big sales of players, so without a great squad they wouldn't perform well, for this season I see PSV and Feyenoord once again competing to become champions, Feyenoord won convincingly in their game against Heerenveem, Feyenoord managed to score 6 goals and only conceded 1 goal. while PSV scored 4 goals and did not concede a goal in their game against NEC. I don't see Ajax achieving good results this season if they don't make big changes
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September 17, 2023, 02:32:24 PM
Feyenoord, PSV and also AZ have and AZ will win their game, also Twente won sovereign against Ajax, the bad season continues at Ajax, think the coach will no longer sit on the bench until winter, Ajax almost have to act before they lose the connection completely. Twente are also very confident so far and it looks like it's going to be a four-way fight without Ajax at the moment.
I was a bit sceptical reading comments few weeks ago that Ajax isn't title contender this season, but after watching their game with Twente, it's difficult to believe in them. Now they doesn't looks like a team which have something to fight for title. It's just 4 rounds, but all their main rivals is looking strong and they're already far away. Chair of Ajax coach is getting hot and I'm not sure how much time he will get, though, he isn't main problem.
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September 17, 2023, 10:56:46 AM
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Twente won sovereign against Ajax

it was a great game by Twente, and they won over Ajax 3:1
didn't expected that, but this could be a really harsh season for Ajax, judging on their results and play so far, 4 matches, 5 points, sitting on position 12 is all but usual for Ajax

PSV and Feyenoord look good
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September 17, 2023, 10:49:10 AM
Feyenoord, PSV and also AZ have and AZ will win their game, also Twente won sovereign against Ajax, the bad season continues at Ajax, think the coach will no longer sit on the bench until winter, Ajax almost have to act before they lose the connection completely. Twente are also very confident so far and it looks like it's going to be a four-way fight without Ajax at the moment.
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September 16, 2023, 01:57:52 PM
After drawing in the first 2 weeks, Feyenoord managed to move back to the top by winning 3 weeks in a row.With this win, they moved to 2nd place with 11 points.It is worth mentioning that they have more matches.We see that they have always scored plenty of goals in the last 3 matches they have won.The 2 matches played at home ended 6-1, while the match won away ended with a 5-1 victory. We should not underestimate their opponents because the opponents they beat are the mid-level teams in this league.In the last 3 matches, they scored 17 goals and conceded 3 goals in total.They put forward a good statistic.Of course, we can easily say that they are one of the biggest candidates for the championship this year.They will face Ajax next week and we can think that this match will be a decisive match for them.
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September 15, 2023, 01:14:23 PM
interesting enough, no match in Ere on Friday as usual, probably due to International break

weekend will be good, Feyenoord and PSV playing easy home matches, Feyenoord will have a bit more to play against Heerenveen, but should win, PSV should have no trouble to win over Nijmegen

Ajax plays Twente, away match, and odds @2.6 for Ajax to win suggest that this could be a difficult season for them, but if one thinks they are better than that, it is a good moment to pick some bets on good odds
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September 15, 2023, 11:19:36 AM
So Ajax its gonna comeback after this break? Or they are gonna still strugling?

Ajax is not really in form, has little self-confidence and is not well-rehearsed. Twente, on the other hand, started the season well, won the last three games and therefore also has self-confidence. But if Ajax only manage a draw or even lose this game, it will be a very difficult season for Ajax and the coach will probably be replaced soon.



Yes, im in the same line as you. Self confidence is key in every aspect of life and more in sports, a player with confidence can have a very good strike and make him worth millions, but without confidence are nothing, and this its what its happening right now on Ajax team, they have very good players but they seem really unhappy or unmotivated.
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September 15, 2023, 03:10:32 AM
So Ajax its gonna comeback after this break? Or they are gonna still strugling?

Ajax is not really in form, has little self-confidence and is not well-rehearsed. Twente, on the other hand, started the season well, won the last three games and therefore also has self-confidence. But if Ajax only manage a draw or even lose this game, it will be a very difficult season for Ajax and the coach will probably be replaced soon.

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