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Quote from: Koal-84 on October 11, 2023, 08:29:22 AM

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Has there ever been a season where Ajax was so bad and didn't win 5 games in a row in the Eredivisie and is now even at the relegation place?

not sure, but can't remember Ajax being so bad recently
they are just bad, AZ and Feyenoord easy wins on their pitch are almost hard to call derbies, Ajax looked as relegation fighting team trying to save bare life against them, and playing at home turf

all being said, Stein is still in position, with 2 wins from 10 matches played, probably worst debut in Ajax history

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Quote from: casperBGD on October 08, 2023, 01:48:05 PM

AZ left Ajax in relegation zone
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Ajax has three loses in a row, and it really does seem their crisis is big, and international break is on right time for them to consolidate

all other favorites took easy wins, it was just PSV that needed more than half-time to broke their opponent, but scored most goals in the end

Has there ever been a season where Ajax was so bad and didn't win 5 games in a row in the Eredivisie and is now even at the relegation place? Ajax almost have to win the next game against the last team in the table, but it will be difficult with the Europa Cup places for next season.

The top four are playing through their games and currently have a four-way race for the top of the table.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on September 24, 2023, 11:40:45 AM

Quote from: LTU_btc on September 24, 2023, 09:34:23 AM

I don't know what is more shameful - how Ajax is playing or how their fans is behaving. 0:3 after 45 minutes and soon in 2nd half fans started throwing flares into pitch. As I understand, game is abandoned and won't be resumed.
https://twitter.com/TheEuropeanLad/status/1705946868880904224
It's not just about Ajax, but in general, similar things happens in almost every big game involved by Ajax, Feyenoord, PSV or Twente. What's wrong with this league? I hope that league finally will take serious actions because such things can't continue.

I dont want to be that annoying guy who said " I said it" , but if anyone relook the thread i said in the beginning of the season this Ajax not start well and also can be very bad if they dont wake up fast, but asides of that thinking i dont expect this bad, they have a very good team in names, i dont really kinow what its happen.

Ajax is now so poor with their performance as compared to their form last season, this season they have recorded one of the worse of their performance, they conceed goals so much that is almost frequent with all their matches in recent times, they struggle to win matches unlike last season where they had steaks of winnings back to back.

Their fans on the other hand are becoming more aggressive than they used to be, probably because they are not used to so much defeat coming at them serially, this season they have recorded two or more games been abandoned due to the reaction of the fans after some minutes into losses and they feel there's no hope for a comeback and of course the players play in a style that doesn't seem as if they could possibly get a comeback. The decline in ajax is jus so bad I just hope they don't get relegated or sanctioned before the season ends because the players are underperforming and the fans are worse with coordinating themselves especially when suffering a loss.

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This is really a call for help by Ajax this season. They have changed 3 managers in a really short time period. But this hasn't ended up well for them at all. They are even in worse condition now. Maurice Steijn would be the next manager to get sacked soon which wouldn't be surprising to be honest.

Since Erik ten Hag left this team they haven't been able to do a good work for real. But it has taken them a really long time to see some progress and there is still none. I wonder whether there are managerial issues with the whole team. I have heard that Louis van Gaal was appointed as advisor a week ago but I don't know whether this will change anything.

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Quote from: snipie on October 09, 2023, 06:23:47 PM

Quote from: Volgastallion on October 08, 2023, 08:38:39 PM

How many people can guess after 8 rounds Ajax was gonna be in relegation zone? I answer 0, impossible, this mark how bad this crisis is.

What was the last time Ajax was in this places? Asides of Eredivisie, i dont remember a similar crisis in a team in big leagues, only Chelsea last season being bad but not this bad.

It is hard to say top teams in Ligue 1 since old and recent ones are fluctuating a lot from a season to another but Lyon are doing horrible with 0 victory and they are obviously sitting in the relegation zone. Lens, ended among top 4 last season and they are hovering around the relegation zone this season. Manchester United in the beginning of the last season were doing very bad in the end of the table but they woke up after Ten Hag joined them. For Ajax, I believe they have to figure out a way to fix their successive failures. It is sad to see a team like them performing like that. Management but also players should wake up and work hard to being the team to a competitive spot since with 15 - 19 goals difference, I doubt they could fight for the first spot or even top 4 ones..

Yeah men i forgot about that one, Lyon is doing very poorly and i also dont know why. But Lyon is not so historical big than Ajax for his own league.

Now we have 4 teams in top positions with a gap of only 4 points and 3 of them without losing a game.

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Quote from: snipie on October 09, 2023, 06:23:47 PM

Quote from: Volgastallion on October 08, 2023, 08:38:39 PM

How many people can guess after 8 rounds Ajax was gonna be in relegation zone? I answer 0, impossible, this mark how bad this crisis is.

What was the last time Ajax was in this places? Asides of Eredivisie, i dont remember a similar crisis in a team in big leagues, only Chelsea last season being bad but not this bad.

It is hard to say top teams in Ligue 1 since old and recent ones are fluctuating a lot from a season to another but Lyon are doing horrible with 0 victory and they are obviously sitting in the relegation zone. Lens, ended among top 4 last season and they are hovering around the relegation zone this season. Manchester United in the beginning of the last season were doing very bad in the end of the table but they woke up after Ten Hag joined them. For Ajax, I believe they have to figure out a way to fix their successive failures. It is sad to see a team like them performing like that. Management but also players should wake up and work hard to being the team to a competitive spot since with 15 - 19 goals difference, I doubt they could fight for the first spot or even top 4 ones..

But this downfall of Ajax Amsterdam is more like Manchester City dropping to relegation zone in two years from now. Ajax Amsterdam has been this far outstanding team next to PSV in the Eredivisie. Ajax Amsterdam and PSV have for very long been in a very unique position in the league and usually the title could not have been won by any other team except when these two teams had severe issues during a season. Ajax has been the champions from 2019 - 2022 for yours years in a row. Now it is pretty crazy because it doesn't look like they just have some minor problems and they will be solved in just a few weeks time. It looks like they might be struggling like never before this season.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on October 08, 2023, 08:38:39 PM

How many people can guess after 8 rounds Ajax was gonna be in relegation zone? I answer 0, impossible, this mark how bad this crisis is.

What was the last time Ajax was in this places? Asides of Eredivisie, i dont remember a similar crisis in a team in big leagues, only Chelsea last season being bad but not this bad.

It is hard to say top teams in Ligue 1 since old and recent ones are fluctuating a lot from a season to another but Lyon are doing horrible with 0 victory and they are obviously sitting in the relegation zone. Lens, ended among top 4 last season and they are hovering around the relegation zone this season. Manchester United in the beginning of the last season were doing very bad in the end of the table but they woke up after Ten Hag joined them. For Ajax, I believe they have to figure out a way to fix their successive failures. It is sad to see a team like them performing like that. Management but also players should wake up and work hard to being the team to a competitive spot since with 15 - 19 goals difference, I doubt they could fight for the first spot or even top 4 ones..

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How many people can guess after 8 rounds Ajax was gonna be in relegation zone? I answer 0, impossible, this mark how bad this crisis is.

What was the last time Ajax was in this places? Asides of Eredivisie, i dont remember a similar crisis in a team in big leagues, only Chelsea last season being bad but not this bad.

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Quote from: casperBGD on October 08, 2023, 01:48:05 PM

AZ left Ajax in relegation zone
at least your bet passed
Ajax has three loses in a row, and it really does seem their crisis is big, and international break is on right time for them to consolidate

all other favorites took easy wins, it was just PSV that needed more than half-time to broke their opponent, but scored most goals in the end

It's just painful to watch Ajax this season and I'm not even Ajax fan, how they should feel now... It's true that international break came at right time because otherwise they could fall even deeper. I would be surprised if they won't sack their coach in next few days. But with squad that they have, I'm not sure who would be able to save their season.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on October 08, 2023, 05:03:57 AM

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Ajax - AZ, that moment when Ajax is so bad that even playing at home they're not favorites. Difficult to predict something here, so, I got with BTTS @2.40.

AZ left Ajax in relegation zone
at least your bet passed
Ajax has three loses in a row, and it really does seem their crisis is big, and international break is on right time for them to consolidate

all other favorites took easy wins, it was just PSV that needed more than half-time to broke their opponent, but scored most goals in the end

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Quote from: Webetcoins on October 08, 2023, 04:22:00 AM

Today we are having all top teams in action with early action for the defending champions Feyenoord against Zwolle as they are coming from tough challenging match against Atlético Madrid even they lost, but their performance was really impressive now they are going to keep their fight at good level for the top spot.

Ajax which is currently at the bottom in relegation zone after having five games with just one win and two draw having AZ Alkmaar even things are looking not good for the Ajax which is surely having troubling time, but we can expect good performance from the both sides and AZ Alkmaar will try to keep themselves at the second spot with the win.

Current league leaders are going to visit Sparta Rotterdam for eight win in this season as right now they are having best run without any lost and concede only two goals from their last seven games in league this could be one-sided affair for them.

It's going to be interesting day in Eredivisie. It looks that Feyenoord have easiest opponent and I doubt that they will have problems against Zwolle.
Ajax - AZ, that moment when Ajax is so bad that even playing at home they're not favorites. Difficult to predict something here, so, I got with BTTS @2.40.
Twente have difficult away game with Fortuna Sittard and 1.90 odds for their wins looks attractive.
I'm not so confident that Sparta - PSV will be one sided game. Sparta is good team, especially playing at home.

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Today we are having all top teams in action with early action for the defending champions Feyenoord against Zwolle as they are coming from tough challenging match against Atlético Madrid even they lost, but their performance was really impressive now they are going to keep their fight at good level for the top spot.

Ajax which is currently at the bottom in relegation zone after having five games with just one win and two draw having AZ Alkmaar even things are looking not good for the Ajax which is surely having troubling time, but we can expect good performance from the both sides and AZ Alkmaar will try to keep themselves at the second spot with the win.

Current league leaders are going to visit Sparta Rotterdam for eight win in this season as right now they are having best run without any lost and concede only two goals from their last seven games in league this could be one-sided affair for them.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on September 25, 2023, 07:37:23 AM

Another dark game in the history and current situation of Ajax Amsterdam, 3 goals down despite having much more possession, then the fan riots, the interruption and finally the abandonment of the game.

Mislintat has now also been fired, I can't assess it 100% but I think it's good that he's leaving Ajax, allegedly he ignored the talent scouts and with the transfer of Borna Sosa not everything went right.

Ajax has been a shadow of themselves since the start of the season and doesn't look like that Ajax that was destroying teams in both the Dutch league and in the UEFA Champions League competition in the past.
After they're were beaten at home against Feyenoord last weekend, I think they're gonna find a way to defeat AZ Alkmaar tomorrow in other to keep their title hopes alive.

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Go ahead eagle won Heracles to cing the Sixth position on the tables with thirteen points, Heracles was able to secure no goal as go ahead eagles was at home and made sure to take full advantage of their home over Heracles. Go ahead eagles had the most of goal attempts but Heracles possessed the ball the most but then the most important was get the full points which was what Go ahead eagles did with a broad margin.

Heerenveen drew against Nijmegen, heerenveen played from home but sti had to share to points with Nijmegen, although they didn't loose they so didn't perform well enough, a they were dispossessed of the ball and had multiple shots on target which they could possibly convert to a goal but didn't, they are at thirteenth position while nijimegen is at tenth position on the table.

The last game in the eredivise was between vitesse and excelsior which ended a goalless draw so both teams again had to share one point each and staying on the 5rh position for excelsior and 12th position for vitesse.

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they have three games to play, one this round, and their position will eventually change, but Ajax will spend this evening in relegation zone

that is probably least expected ever to see from their fans, and things have to change and change quickly

AZ game tomorrow is all but easy, and odds @2.35 for Ajax home win is something that wasn't seen even in derbies against PSV and Feyenoord
interesting season

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Ufff man , i just see this, yesterday when i see in the app the game was suspended i was thinking to myself "oh again incidents in the grades" but i didnt imagine this, really sad. I hope he can recover and he can comeback to play.

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Quote from: Joca97 on September 30, 2023, 04:18:12 PM

Ouch just seen this,hope he is okay but things like this keep on happening in modern football and i think some serious things need to be taken so things like this stop happening. Football in second plan once this happen and hopefully he will be okay and to hear some positive news.

That was really scary accident, goalkeeper got serious knockout. https://twitter.com/9jafutballnews/status/1708229328448655564 Good to hear that he is feeling ok. But I'm not really sure what can be done to protect goalkeepers in such situations. Fortunately, such collisions doesn't happens that often.
Any news when game will be resumed? There isstill about 10 minutes to play and it should be very interesting. Again Ajax were playing with fire and didn't looked like a team which can fight for title. Considering that they're playing in Europe, it can be a bit difficult to find new date for rest part of game.

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AZ Alkmaar, one of this year's champion candidates, defeated Fortuna Sittard 4-0 at home. They are one of the teams that are doing well in the league and have no problem scoring goals. When we look at the top 4 teams in the league, almost all of them are teams that score a lot of goals and concede few goals and I am very curious about the matches that these teams will play against each other. We can easily say that the matches that these 4 teams will play between them will be the matches that will determine the fate of the league.

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Quote from: Joca97 on September 30, 2023, 04:18:12 PM

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Football in second plan once this happen and hopefully he will be okay and to hear some positive news.

didn't watch the match, and when heard that it is interrupted, first taught was that it it another incident by Ajax fans
but this is really sad, there is no news up to now, about his recovery, hope that he will be well and overcome situation

first time that I see goalkeeper feel down, usual players are under stress, it is really sad to see it

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Quote from: CLS63 on September 30, 2023, 04:13:07 PM

Have you seen the sad incident happened in the Waalwijk-Ajax match? Football can really be dangerous sometimes. They are saying that the Waalwijk goalkeeper Vaessen's condition is critical and he has a risk of death as well. However there hasn't been any official statement made yet. I hope that he can regain his health by recovering as soon as possible.

Ouch just seen this,hope he is okay but things like this keep on happening in modern football and i think some serious things need to be taken so things like this stop happening. Football in second plan once this happen and hopefully he will be okay and to hear some positive news.

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