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October 27, 2022, 02:05:56 PM
Ajax wouldn't care about winning the Europa League title also I guess. They would fully focus on the Eredivisie championship then. They are already 4 points ahead of PSV and this duel vs PSV is going to be very important for them.
Seem, Ajax will not face any problem next when we look at PSV's performance in the last match. Cody Gakpo who has a top score and assists can't show his best performance when got a ball from the center, In fact, PSV has better ball possession, but can't stop the counterattack from Groningen. this weakness can be used by Ajax to widen different points.

Saying that there is a decision yet is way too early I think, but as I mentioned before you can't lose games easily without getting punished hard by your contenders in the Eredivisie at the top of the table. Losing a game means a lot as the probability is quite low that Ajax Amsterdam will also lose some games. They might drop a point every couple of weeks, but they usually win their games.

PSV still has all chances though. It is not like everyday will go perfect for Ajax. But for now PSV can certainly not afford anymore losses against opponents that are not from the upper third of the table.
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October 26, 2022, 01:35:59 AM
Ajax wouldn't care about winning the Europa League title also I guess. They would fully focus on the Eredivisie championship then. They are already 4 points ahead of PSV and this duel vs PSV is going to be very important for them.
Seem, Ajax will not face any problem next when we look at PSV's performance in the last match. Cody Gakpo who has a top score and assists can't show his best performance when got a ball from the center, In fact, PSV has better ball possession, but can't stop the counterattack from Groningen. this weakness can be used by Ajax to widen different points.
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October 24, 2022, 03:59:09 PM
Correct this round was Ajax's round, but PSV can make up the points in Ajax's next league game, only they have to win against Ajax for once. Only Ajax now have 2 very difficult Champions League games they have to win, is that the reason why Ajax don't play or postpone the next league game?

ajax will play the two champions league games and only after playing the 2 champions league games will they play against PSV, but I believe that ajax will beat PSV, I just wouldn't bet on them in the champions league games, maybe they can even have a chance to win against the ranger and they can get a draw against liverpool that is not well in the premier league

PSV will definitely find it difficult to beat ajax in the follow-up match next month, but ajax performance in the UCL is what I'm really worried about. ajax is currently in third place in group A, their chance to qualify for the next round is impossible, they have to face Liverpool (my prediction is that ajax will lose by a narrow score) and face rangers (this is definitely a match that can be won by ajax). In the UCL this season, ajax is not a strong team, but in the national league, they are still very strong.

These games between the top three teams will be really important showdowns, and I don't expect Ajax to win those games like they do in many other games. The clash between PSV and Ajax is probably a quite close one. Not to mention how important it might potentially be when Ajax can even manage to extend their lead in the table by a bit. If they then meet each other it is almost like a first little final in the Eredivisie. Having a significant lead is so valuable especially in leagues where it is hardly expected that top teams lose games and that is definitely the case for this league.
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October 24, 2022, 09:34:54 AM
Ajax are just not like in the previous season when it comes to the Champions League. There is an obvious lack of concentration among the players and they are most likely to join the Europa League. I expect them to care about the Liverpool match actually because it is their last chance. They have to win that match. If they don't then I assume the manager would rotate the squad in the Rangers match. Hence they would be ready for facing PSV then because they wouldn't deal with any fatigue problem.

Ajax wouldn't care about winning the Europa League title also I guess. They would fully focus on the Eredivisie championship then. They are already 4 points ahead of PSV and this duel vs PSV is going to be very important for them.
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October 24, 2022, 09:20:44 AM
Correct this round was Ajax's round, but PSV can make up the points in Ajax's next league game, only they have to win against Ajax for once. Only Ajax now have 2 very difficult Champions League games they have to win, is that the reason why Ajax don't play or postpone the next league game?

ajax will play the two champions league games and only after playing the 2 champions league games will they play against PSV, but I believe that ajax will beat PSV, I just wouldn't bet on them in the champions league games, maybe they can even have a chance to win against the ranger and they can get a draw against liverpool that is not well in the premier league

PSV will definitely find it difficult to beat ajax in the follow-up match next month, but ajax performance in the UCL is what I'm really worried about. ajax is currently in third place in group A, their chance to qualify for the next round is impossible, they have to face Liverpool (my prediction is that ajax will lose by a narrow score) and face rangers (this is definitely a match that can be won by ajax). In the UCL this season, ajax is not a strong team, but in the national league, they are still very strong.
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October 24, 2022, 09:01:46 AM
these are CL games, but Ajax is almost certain for Europa league, so they will probably lack motivation for matches against Liverpool and Rangers
it would be highly unpredictable for them to win both, and for Liverpool to lose both matches in last two rounds

and Rangers showed nothing so far, so I do not think they can overcome Ajax

nevertheless, great round for them in Dutch league, all other contenders failed to win

That's true as you write but you shouldn't take the two games lightly, a qualification for the Champions League I also think is out of the question, but Rangers can still play themselves into 3rd place with a lucky run, it's not impossible. Just wait and see how motivated Liverpool are in the Champions League game, they have a game against Leeds 3 days later and they are as good as qualified for the Champions League, so nothing will go wrong.
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October 24, 2022, 08:50:57 AM
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Ajax now have 3 very difficult games ahead of them, first 2 Champions League games and then the game against PSV.

these are CL games, but Ajax is almost certain for Europa league, so they will probably lack motivation for matches against Liverpool and Rangers
it would be highly unpredictable for them to win both, and for Liverpool to lose both matches in last two rounds

and Rangers showed nothing so far, so I do not think they can overcome Ajax

nevertheless, great round for them in Dutch league, all other contenders failed to win
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October 24, 2022, 08:45:46 AM
We will see the race between them, of course, if Ajax is still unstable with coordination.
ajax has already recovered, look at their results from the last 2 games. they won and are at the top, of course they will be champions
Seem yes, I just compare Ajax with team on Champions League that got a big lost with the same team, Napoli.
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one simply cannot compare Ajax in Dutch league and Ajax in CL, CL competition is fierce and Napoli would easily win Dutch championship, probably without a draw
nevertheless, AZ proved they do not have what it takes to be within top3, and Feyenoord seems as obvious choice for third spot, while PSV will chase Ajax till the end, doubtfully, Ajax will probably reach the finish line as first and take the title

the results of the last games show how sure I was that ajax will be champions without having many difficulties, PSV lost against groningen, honestly it even made me laugh a lot because groningen is a team that came to this game with consecutive defeats, but at the same time playing against PSV they won and still managed to score 4 goals, when you look at these numbers of goals and the position of groningen I can't stop laughing at PSV, honestly this PSV has no chance of being champion, they are a joke. about AZ, another team that made me laugh a lot, because they also lost against a team that wasn't very strong, ajax will be champions even if they don't try very hard

Correct this round was Ajax's round, but PSV can make up the points in Ajax's next league game, only they have to win against Ajax for once. Only Ajax now have 2 very difficult Champions League games they have to win, is that the reason why Ajax don't play or postpone the next league game?

ajax will play the two champions league games and only after playing the 2 champions league games will they play against PSV, but I believe that ajax will beat PSV, I just wouldn't bet on them in the champions league games, maybe they can even have a chance to win against the ranger and they can get a draw against liverpool that is not well in the premier league
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October 24, 2022, 06:51:31 AM
Ajax is the big winner this weekend. All competitors have suffered a significant loss of points and Ajax a simple victory. The PSV match in particular was bizarre. Of the 90 minutes, I think PSV was the better match for 85 minutes and should have scored a goal or 7 for sure. That's not how it went and Groningen was 3-0 in 5 minutes and 3-1 1 minute later. When they went into halftime with that score, there was still hope for PSV. The 3-2 fell in minute 75, then you also have time on the 3-3 or even 3-4. PSV wasted one chance after another and then you get the bill after 90 minutes. Feyenoord played weak and was unable to beat Fortuna Sittard at home, which is doing very well with their new trainer and striker Yilmaz.

Correct this round was Ajax's round, but PSV can make up the points in Ajax's next league game, only they have to win against Ajax for once. Only Ajax now have 2 very difficult Champions League games they have to win, is that the reason why Ajax don't play or postpone the next league game?



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October 24, 2022, 12:14:03 AM
Very successful weekend for Ajax Amsterdam without a doubt. They themselves brought home three points solidly and all the closest three contenders failed with Alkmaar closing that race for the weekend with a loss also.
An important round for Ajax, all other leaders have bounced this round only Ajax won their game confidently. PSV and AZ lost, but Feyenoord saved a draw.

Ajax now have 3 very difficult games ahead of them, first 2 Champions League games and then the game against PSV.
Ajax widening gape from second spot team PSV and now have lead of four points which is good after winning their match on road against Waalwijk and PSV have their third defeat of this season and all happening on road matches and with lost against Arsenal in UEFA Europa Cup this is fourth defeat which is not good indication for them because there are aiming for having spot in Champions League for this they have to improve performance and quality which give them better results in all conditions.

Feyenoord ended in a draw at home against Sittard which is also playing good and able to steal points against team like Feyenoord which is not third in league table with some points of PSV but goals difference is bringing them down hopefully they could be also better in coming days and AZ Alkmaar now dropped from top to fourth after losing second match in a row.
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October 23, 2022, 03:11:14 PM
Ajax is the big winner this weekend. All competitors have suffered a significant loss of points and Ajax a simple victory. The PSV match in particular was bizarre. Of the 90 minutes, I think PSV was the better match for 85 minutes and should have scored a goal or 7 for sure. That's not how it went and Groningen was 3-0 in 5 minutes and 3-1 1 minute later. When they went into halftime with that score, there was still hope for PSV. The 3-2 fell in minute 75, then you also have time on the 3-3 or even 3-4. PSV wasted one chance after another and then you get the bill after 90 minutes. Feyenoord played weak and was unable to beat Fortuna Sittard at home, which is doing very well with their new trainer and striker Yilmaz.
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October 23, 2022, 12:56:01 PM
Very successful weekend for Ajax Amsterdam without a doubt. They themselves brought home three points solidly and all the closest three contenders failed with Alkmaar closing that race for the weekend with a loss also.


An important round for Ajax, all other leaders have bounced this round only Ajax won their game confidently. PSV and AZ lost, but Feyenoord saved a draw.

Ajax now have 3 very difficult games ahead of them, first 2 Champions League games and then the game against PSV.
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October 23, 2022, 11:26:35 AM
Very successful weekend for Ajax Amsterdam without a doubt. They themselves brought home three points solidly and all the closest three contenders failed with Alkmaar closing that race for the weekend with a loss also.

Now there is a gap for the first time this season between the second and the first I believe and gaps in Eredivisie mean something. Ajax Amsterdam being ahead with four points can also play within a certain comfort zone as they can even afford to lose a game or perhaps two. Not to forget that PSV gave the game away against Groningen, which is a rather weak team and a must win game. Certainly a bit of a tipping point here in the Eredivisie for now. Everyone knows that they shouldn't let this snowball over the coming weeks and allow Ajax to distance themselves significantly. That would almost be decisive for the rest of the season.
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October 22, 2022, 07:34:54 AM
Feyenoord is facing Fortuna today, and Ajax is playing away match against RKC
everything except their wins will be a big surprise, but odds for betting are way to small, even for goals, and those should not be taken for granted, since RKC is a tough team, and Feyenoord is not scoring more then 3 to often at home

Vittesse has a shitty season, fighting to avoid relegation at the moment, but win over Emmen should be a value pick
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October 21, 2022, 07:19:43 AM
one simply cannot compare Ajax in Dutch league and Ajax in CL, CL competition is fierce and Napoli would easily win Dutch championship, probably without a draw
nevertheless, AZ proved they do not have what it takes to be within top3, and Feyenoord seems as obvious choice for third spot, while PSV will chase Ajax till the end, doubtfully, Ajax will probably reach the finish line as first and take the title

ajax may still be a great team, hopefully with ten hag leaving the team, they will still dominate the dutch league. schreuder doesn't really have a good strategy for ajax, unlike ten hag, it's also proven in UCL, ajax performs badly. I personally still doubt whether ajax this season will defend its title in the Dutch league or even PSV or Feyenoord which again shifts the dominance of ajax. tomorrow ajax will face waalwijk, this is an opportunity for them to increase points.

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October 20, 2022, 03:06:14 PM
We will see the race between them, of course, if Ajax is still unstable with coordination.
ajax has already recovered, look at their results from the last 2 games. they won and are at the top, of course they will be champions
Seem yes, I just compare Ajax with team on Champions League that got a big lost with the same team, Napoli.
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one simply cannot compare Ajax in Dutch league and Ajax in CL, CL competition is fierce and Napoli would easily win Dutch championship, probably without a draw
nevertheless, AZ proved they do not have what it takes to be within top3, and Feyenoord seems as obvious choice for third spot, while PSV will chase Ajax till the end, doubtfully, Ajax will probably reach the finish line as first and take the title
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October 20, 2022, 03:00:06 PM
We will see the race between them, of course, if Ajax is still unstable with coordination.
ajax has already recovered, look at their results from the last 2 games. they won and are at the top, of course they will be champions
Seem yes, I just compare Ajax with team on Champions League that got a big lost with the same team, Napoli. I don't know why they seemed just give up, like helpless and doesn't have the power to rise. This is different when Ajax fight with Eredivisie team, I'm not sure if they changed the focus right now and have a different target, but when they focusing in eredivise only, of course the title is on their hand.
Now this season is going to be difficult for them as they already sold their few top quality players for big amount and coach is also new with this all they already have the worst results in Champions League but here in Eredivisie they have chance even it's also not easy because we are watching few good things in this season with Feyenoord, AZ Alkmaar and PSV all are in good shape and have enough strength for giving them challenge.

Ajax are still superiors in Eredivisie, but this season is going to be difficult for them, and they have to done tough work if they want to win and hold their control on this league which is in trouble with the improved quality of few other teams and most chances now their main focus could be here instead of going into Europa Cup which is also not easy.

The last round showed how crazy the league is. They hunt each other with these absurd results week after week, but at least they are showing some weaknesses from time to time and make it a close race at the top.

It will still mostly be about the showdowns like we have seen between AZ and Feyenoord. It does happen that they give away points agains the weaker teams, but the games between the top four are tremendously important whereas in a number of other leagues it is quite a bit more balanced in that teams from the top more frequently lose points against teams from the ranks five and onwards.

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October 20, 2022, 10:39:31 AM
We will see the race between them, of course, if Ajax is still unstable with coordination.
ajax has already recovered, look at their results from the last 2 games. they won and are at the top, of course they will be champions
Seem yes, I just compare Ajax with team on Champions League that got a big lost with the same team, Napoli. I don't know why they seemed just give up, like helpless and doesn't have the power to rise. This is different when Ajax fight with Eredivisie team, I'm not sure if they changed the focus right now and have a different target, but when they focusing in eredivise only, of course the title is on their hand.
Now this season is going to be difficult for them as they already sold their few top quality players for big amount and coach is also new with this all they already have the worst results in Champions League but here in Eredivisie they have chance even it's also not easy because we are watching few good things in this season with Feyenoord, AZ Alkmaar and PSV all are in good shape and have enough strength for giving them challenge.

Ajax are still superiors in Eredivisie, but this season is going to be difficult for them, and they have to done tough work if they want to win and hold their control on this league which is in trouble with the improved quality of few other teams and most chances now their main focus could be here instead of going into Europa Cup which is also not easy.
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October 19, 2022, 11:19:59 PM
We will see the race between them, of course, if Ajax is still unstable with coordination.
ajax has already recovered, look at their results from the last 2 games. they won and are at the top, of course they will be champions
Seem yes, I just compare Ajax with team on Champions League that got a big lost with the same team, Napoli. I don't know why they seemed just give up, like helpless and doesn't have the power to rise. This is different when Ajax fight with Eredivisie team, I'm not sure if they changed the focus right now and have a different target, but when they focusing in eredivise only, of course the title is on their hand.
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October 19, 2022, 04:12:13 PM
Yesterday and today there were cup matches in the Dutch league. Few to no surprises seen, except for 1 game. Vitesse lost on penalties to De Treffers, an amateur team. That's the fun of such tournaments. But in the competition Vitesse is also doing very poorly and is even almost at the bottom. We might see a long battle for the championship at the top, which is of course great for the neutral football supporter. Ajax really has an enormous wealth on the field and has spent 110 million euros, but that is not yet reflected on the field. Antony is sorely missed, but they got 100 million for that. That was a choice.
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