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Quote from: CLS63 on August 27, 2022, 04:07:39 PM

The only attracting part of this league to me is to watch the competition between Ajax and PSV for the league title. We have been accustomed to seeing this very often in the recent years because there has been no other team to put up a big fight against any of them. But maybe this season might be different. The reason is that I see Feyenoord having started strongly and having the lead in the standings after four weeks. If they also join the race to be the champions this can make the season a little more interesting. In the end people get bored to see the same teams fighting for a title after a point.

In last few years, we are watching some improvements are happening in this Dutch League as few teams are trying their best for development and increasing quality which is not easy because this need good investments and better structure for players.

Right now Ajax is dominating with good financial position as they are selling good number of players to other big clubs in Europe and having good profit from them all clubs are not able to compete with them in terms of finances which is the biggest gape but as PSV and Feyenoord are improving quality we can expect good things will happen here in this league and teams could be in better shape with some good strategy by their management for having better chance of win in Dutch League and in European Leagues as well.

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Feyenoord on top eredivisie after beat 4 - 0 Emmen on home. What is interesting is all the goals happened in the second half which means the strategy's success changed. But if a coach can read on 1st half, maybe a goal party happens like side. I just look at Santiago Gimenez a person who creates 1 goal and assists, maybe not too late to make him a starter next because he was a motivator in 2nd half.

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The only attracting part of this league to me is to watch the competition between Ajax and PSV for the league title. We have been accustomed to seeing this very often in the recent years because there has been no other team to put up a big fight against any of them. But maybe this season might be different. The reason is that I see Feyenoord having started strongly and having the lead in the standings after four weeks. If they also join the race to be the champions this can make the season a little more interesting. In the end people get bored to see the same teams fighting for a title after a point.

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Quote from: Bhig Daddy on August 27, 2022, 11:42:00 AM

I know most of us don't get to get to watch the Netherlands league but it a very interesting league, the competition there isn't that tough with Ajax dominating the league but dammn they play a very good football, like they create alot of chances and posses well too, most of us that engage in betting will see that even their over 2.5 don't have much odd because they create alot of chances.

Right now, we have good entertaining competitions only in top three leagues of UEFA like Premier League, La Liga and Italian Serie A all others are have not good enough entertainment and tough competitions so just because of this we have not good communities about these leagues but good thing happening in last few years we have too many members those are involved in these leagues are giving good updates about them, and we can talk about the leagues good.

Right now in Eredivisie, we have three top class teams which are having good record in European Competitions even Ajax is leading this table with quality and much better environment, but now quality is also improving in other teams as well as we have PSV and Feyenoord which done good job in last season in European competitions.

Now, we have on match which is playing between Vitesse vs Waalwijk here Vitesse is hot favorite but after 60 minutes game they are trailing by 0 - 2 and another match is going to start between Feyenoord vs FC Emmen here also home team is clearly favorite to win this match.

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Quote from: Bhig Daddy on August 27, 2022, 11:42:00 AM

I know most of us don't get to get to watch the Netherlands league but it a very interesting league, the competition there isn't that tough with Ajax dominating the league but dammn they play a very good football, like they create alot of chances and posses well too, most of us that engage in betting will see that even their over 2.5 don't have much odd because they create alot of chances.

There is nothing exciting in the Eredivisie apart from matches between teams like Feyenoord, AZ, Twente, Ajax Amsterdam and PSV Eindhoven. That's why this topic is very quiet, unlike the topic of other major European leagues, which are more competitive in the league. I personally see the Eredivisie only as a place to bet, there is no interest at all to follow developments or updates regarding this league. We'll only see PSV or Ajax winning the Eredivisie from season to season. Talking about betting, who do you think will win in the Vitesse Vs Waalwijk match? now the match has started and will enter the 22nd minute. I have placed a bet on this match for the victory of Waalwijk.

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I know most of us don't get to get to watch the Netherlands league but it a very interesting league, the competition there isn't that tough with Ajax dominating the league but dammn they play a very good football, like they create alot of chances and posses well too, most of us that engage in betting will see that even their over 2.5 don't have much odd because they create alot of chances.

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Quote from: Distraction on August 24, 2022, 02:37:43 PM

Turkish teams have big difficulties in convincing their young talents to stay and play in the Turkish Super League and the Ahmetcan Kaplan transfer was a very good example for that.

We all know how much teams like Ajax love to search and find this kind of talents to fill the team with them. Of course they have a great academy also as some of you said. But they like to do research like e.g. Dortmund do also. These teams are characteristically the same actually. The difference between them is Ajax are becoming the champions of their league while Dortmund are in Bayern Munich's shadow in the Bundesliga. But I know that the priority of these teams is to help the young talents reach their potential rather than building a team that can become the champions every season.

Ajax has a reputation that is similar to that of Borussia Dortmund. Both teams are able to sign a lot of very strong and young talents, but after a good season or two they almost always have to let those players go. It is still a decent business model I think. Dortmund has positive numbers exactly because of their policy to watch out for young talented players, raise them and then sell them. Of course they would prefer to keep players like Sancho, Haaland or Dembele, but there is no way to do that when Barcelona, Real Madrid or Manchester City knock on the players' doors.

Ajax frequently has great talents as well and they have shown how far they can make it in the champions league with their model. They have always been a team that is uncomfortable to play again. I expect the same this season.

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This week could really kind of turn into a nightmare for PSV Eindhoven. The game against the Rangers was so close and eventually has been decided by a huge mistake in the defense. The best cure to get over that one is to beat Excelsior right now, but they had a good start into the season as well.

In a home game a lot could be possible for Excelsior as well. Not to mention that the qualification for the Champions League would have meant a lot to the PSV players and it also upgrades a whole season in terms of motivation when you play on the highest international level besides your national league. Now it remains to be seen whether EXcelsior can exploit the momentum and put PSV under pressure and also force them into making unnecessary mistakes.

I think the game is more even than many would think. There is a window of opportunity here. My guess is that it is going to be a close game.

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Turkish teams have big difficulties in convincing their young talents to stay and play in the Turkish Super League and the Ahmetcan Kaplan transfer was a very good example for that.

We all know how much teams like Ajax love to search and find this kind of talents to fill the team with them. Of course they have a great academy also as some of you said. But they like to do research like e.g. Dortmund do also. These teams are characteristically the same actually. The difference between them is Ajax are becoming the champions of their league while Dortmund are in Bayern Munich's shadow in the Bundesliga. But I know that the priority of these teams is to help the young talents reach their potential rather than building a team that can become the champions every season.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on August 24, 2022, 02:58:49 AM

Ajax has been a very good training club since they won the Champions League and with the academy they built from it, they buy young talents, tie them down with long contracts and then sell them on very profitably. That's their current line, for the Eredivisie it's usually 90% enough to win the title.

After the departures in central defence, Ajax has bought another TOP talent for 9.5 million euros, Ahmetcan Kaplan from Trabzonspor.

https://www.transfermarkt.at/ahmetcan-kaplan/profil/spieler/662131

No doubt Ajax is dominating club in the Netherlands, and they have all sources for this with they already won Champions League and still have very good squad even in this season they sell their few best players for big amount but as their agents most of the time are busy around for having young talented players this is good business for many clubs in Europe just buy youngsters and give them some training after this sell them for higher prices.

But, now their opponents in local league are also doing their best as we can watch PSV and Feyenoord are also had quality players and staying at top with Ajax for title race with these teams we can expect some challenge from Twente and AZ Alkmaar as they are also going regularly in UEFA and can do some develop their teams which could be better for Dutch league as well because this will surely increase quality which could be brought more investment for better results.

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Quote from: vennali on August 22, 2022, 11:16:52 AM

This chart is about how much an Eredivisie club has spent in this transfer window.

Ajax were able to spend more than other clubs combined since they lost most of their squad for good price(another season, another sale for big clubs to look into Ajax). Net Spend wouldn't be half as significant though. Ajax might also lose another player in Anthony, with Manchester United reportedly increasing their bid to have his services and Anthony keen on joining them.

Ajax has been a very good training club since they won the Champions League and with the academy they built from it, they buy young talents, tie them down with long contracts and then sell them on very profitably. That's their current line, for the Eredivisie it's usually 90% enough to win the title.

After the departures in central defence, Ajax has bought another TOP talent for 9.5 million euros, Ahmetcan Kaplan from Trabzonspor.

https://www.transfermarkt.at/ahmetcan-kaplan/profil/spieler/662131

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Quote from: wiss19 on August 23, 2022, 02:20:43 PM

Even they are not ruling like Germans because they have few tough opponents in this league which are surely challenger for them like PSV and Feyenoord both are also having good quality and skilled players but still Ajax is going to be at top with their finances and all other sources which are giving them best edge from other clubs in this country.

Ajax is very dominant but when we look at last year the difference point is not much (2 points) from 2nd rank PSV. this means, the opponent is fighting hard and not just giving away the winning, and Of course, the financial is a very important thing, that the dominance of champions is the biggest factor Ajax always keeps hold it until 2021, and 4x time champion in a row is great

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Quote from: posi on August 23, 2022, 06:10:31 AM

A number of players have been sold by Ajax. I thought their performance would be weaker this season. But Ajax has performed well in all three matches. Ajax now has enough money. But I don't think Ajax will spend too much money on new players. I think Ajax will look for young talented players. And will recruit them for very little money. After a few years, Ajax will sell these players at high prices. Let's see what steps Ajax take to strengthen their squad.

I am not agreed with you about their performance because they are selling their best players and their agent is already in working, and they are going to buy few players before end of this transfer window, and they already have few players those are capable of giving them good result because Ajax is one of the best club in the Netherlands, and they have enough sources like Bayern Munich in Germany for having their strong hold on this league and title race.

Even they are not ruling like Germans because they have few tough opponents in this league which are surely challenger for them like PSV and Feyenoord both are also having good quality and skilled players but still Ajax is going to be at top with their finances and all other sources which are giving them best edge from other clubs in this country.

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Quote from: monineklutak on August 23, 2022, 12:08:26 PM

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Quote from: vennali on August 22, 2022, 11:16:52 AM

Ajax were able to spend more than other clubs combined since they lost most of their squad for good price(another season, another sale for big clubs to look into Ajax). Net Spend wouldn't be half as significant though. Ajax might also lose another player in Anthony, with Manchester United reportedly increasing their bid to have his services and Anthony keen on joining them.

They have sold a lot of players, Of course, they will be easy to buy for more players. They have a good Agent who can search and replace with a better player, so I don't doubt it. But, adaptation is the most crucial problem with this scheme. Maybe they don't have a problem with Eredivise (9 points is proof) but they will get it in the Champions League like last year.

in Eredvise Ajax is unbreakable, it's been proven that Ajax has been coached by Eric Ten Hag for 4 years and has always won the title.
of course even though their players always leave in the transfer market, they can still compete,
because they are not an individual, but a team, this is why Ajax is a place for young players to develop

The bond between Ajax team players is very good. They are able to play well as a team. I would say their main strength is that they don't base their match strategy on any particular player. And this is the reason why their performance has not deteriorated even after selling some of their key players this season. Maybe their performance in the Champions League will be a little weak. But Ajax is still favorites to win the Eredivisie league title.

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Quote from: blue Snow on August 23, 2022, 01:31:42 AM

Quote from: vennali on August 22, 2022, 11:16:52 AM

Ajax were able to spend more than other clubs combined since they lost most of their squad for good price(another season, another sale for big clubs to look into Ajax). Net Spend wouldn't be half as significant though. Ajax might also lose another player in Anthony, with Manchester United reportedly increasing their bid to have his services and Anthony keen on joining them.

They have sold a lot of players, Of course, they will be easy to buy for more players. They have a good Agent who can search and replace with a better player, so I don't doubt it. But, adaptation is the most crucial problem with this scheme. Maybe they don't have a problem with Eredivise (9 points is proof) but they will get it in the Champions League like last year.

in Eredvise Ajax is unbreakable, it's been proven that Ajax has been coached by Eric Ten Hag for 4 years and has always won the title.
of course even though their players always leave in the transfer market, they can still compete,
because they are not an individual, but a team, this is why Ajax is a place for young players to develop

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Quote from: blue Snow on August 23, 2022, 01:31:42 AM

Quote from: vennali on August 22, 2022, 11:16:52 AM

Ajax were able to spend more than other clubs combined since they lost most of their squad for good price(another season, another sale for big clubs to look into Ajax). Net Spend wouldn't be half as significant though. Ajax might also lose another player in Anthony, with Manchester United reportedly increasing their bid to have his services and Anthony keen on joining them.

They have sold a lot of players, Of course, they will be easy to buy for more players. They have a good Agent who can search and replace with a better player, so I don't doubt it. But, adaptation is the most crucial problem with this scheme. Maybe they don't have a problem with Eredivise (9 points is proof) but they will get it in the Champions League like last year.

A number of players have been sold by Ajax. I thought their performance would be weaker this season. But Ajax has performed well in all three matches. Ajax now has enough money. But I don't think Ajax will spend too much money on new players. I think Ajax will look for young talented players. And will recruit them for very little money. After a few years, Ajax will sell these players at high prices. Let's see what steps Ajax take to strengthen their squad.

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Quote from: vennali on August 22, 2022, 11:16:52 AM

Ajax were able to spend more than other clubs combined since they lost most of their squad for good price(another season, another sale for big clubs to look into Ajax). Net Spend wouldn't be half as significant though. Ajax might also lose another player in Anthony, with Manchester United reportedly increasing their bid to have his services and Anthony keen on joining them.

They have sold a lot of players, Of course, they will be easy to buy for more players. They have a good Agent who can search and replace with a better player, so I don't doubt it. But, adaptation is the most crucial problem with this scheme. Maybe they don't have a problem with Eredivise (9 points is proof) but they will get it in the Champions League like last year.

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I feel like 100 goals was easier to do last year compared to this year. Yes, they still have great players but we should also remember that they sold some of their players as well. Martinez, Haller, Ryan, Onana these were all amazingly important players for them and they all left within span of just one summer.

I do not think that they would be really happy with the current situation if you asked them. This is of course just a guess and I do not know how they will be like this year, maybe they will reach to 100 goals even with this roster but I feel like they are worse compared to last season and even worst team in a few years if you ask me as well.

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Quote from: vennali on August 22, 2022, 11:16:52 AM

This chart is about how much an Eredivisie club has spent in this transfer window.

Ajax were able to spend more than other clubs combined since they lost most of their squad for good price(another season, another sale for big clubs to look into Ajax). Net Spend wouldn't be half as significant though. Ajax might also lose another player in Anthony, with Manchester United reportedly increasing their bid to have his services and Anthony keen on joining them.

one of the biggest problems that many teams currently have is that they sell their best players and cannot buy other best players to fill that vacant place, in the case of ajax I have no doubt that this season they will be champions, but I have doubts that the their performance in the champions league will not be good, anyway they won in their last game. I expected them to score more goals, but in the end the most important thing is that they won

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This chart is about how much an Eredivisie club has spent in this transfer window.

Ajax were able to spend more than other clubs combined since they lost most of their squad for good price(another season, another sale for big clubs to look into Ajax). Net Spend wouldn't be half as significant though. Ajax might also lose another player in Anthony, with Manchester United reportedly increasing their bid to have his services and Anthony keen on joining them.

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