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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on August 06, 2022, 04:29:55 PM

Very moderate victory by Ajax. They eventually won 2-3, but after a few minutes they were already 1-0 behind and Fortuna Sittard also went into halftime with that 1-0 score. That could have turned out much worse for AJax. Yet another class from Ajax that they are already 1-3 in 12 minutes after the break. PSV won a lot easier, but they are in a difficult situation because they will also play the Champions League against Monaco next week, I was surprised that PSV started playing in their strongest line-up. The Champions League match against Monaco has bigger interests.

For me it was also surprising that Ajax won with effort, but Feyenoord and PSV won their games convincingly. Also as an Ajax fan I prefer that the league could be balanced again this year, and not only Ajax and PSV have a chance to win the title.

Ajax has the advantage over PSV that they don't have to play qualifiers, PSV will have a hard time against Monaco and my favourite is Monaco.

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Very moderate victory by Ajax. They eventually won 2-3, but after a few minutes they were already 1-0 behind and Fortuna Sittard also went into halftime with that 1-0 score. That could have turned out much worse for AJax. Yet another class from Ajax that they are already 1-3 in 12 minutes after the break. PSV won a lot easier, but they are in a difficult situation because they will also play the Champions League against Monaco next week, I was surprised that PSV started playing in their strongest line-up. The Champions League match against Monaco has bigger interests.

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Quote from: CLS63 on August 05, 2022, 12:28:34 PM

PSV were significantly close to Ajax last season indeed. It was one of the best shots they had for the championship but they failed still. For this season it is difficult to comment on this topic for now. Because we haven't watched PSV and Ajax both in any league match. After we leave some weeks behind we would have some clearer opinions. For now I can say that Ajax are once again the biggest candidate for becoming the champions. PSV will need to make a big difference to put an end to Ajax's streak.

Yes but when you have these two top teams in a league, even then when it seems to be close it sometimes doesn't even feel as if it was close. Take Man City as an example, when they are one point ahead and there are 10 games left and they already won 12 in a row, it often feels like they won't just lose another one. Same in Germany, when Bayern is ahead or Ajax in the Netherlands. Often times these teams don't throw points away. Of course we as fans hope for that to happen, but in many cases it is crazy how these teams dominate till the very last moment. Imagine Liverpool not winning the PL with 94 points, lol. That must feel awful. You literally play a perfect season, yet you lose it. As you said this season might be closer, Ajax has lost a few great players over the last couple of years. Perhaps a chance for PSV.

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Today Ajax and PSV will play for the first match, considering these two teams are two clubs that always dominate the league then I have no doubts about their victory for this match. Hopefully their head to head will still apply for this match, because then at least my pick at -1.5 would be an easy win. I think it's difficult to fight at odds like that, although anything can still happen like in the Liverpool match which only drew 2-2 but I think the competition in the Eredivisie is not that competitive. So yes, I hope my choice is not wrong, because if I consider the results on paper they will still be able to win this match.

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Quote from: casperBGD on August 05, 2022, 07:00:03 AM

will be probably a two-way, between Ajax and PSV, I do not see Feyenoord in that fight, but let us follow the season

Ajax certainly did not forget to score goals (they scored 3 against PSV), but needs to improve defense, since they conceived five

what was the last time to see two Super Cup matches finished 3:5 same weekend, as last weekend Netherlands and Germany, probably once in a life time

The defense was the gain last year, Ajax had gotten very few goals last year and also scored above average. But I still think Ajax had a very good defense, Pasveer was also injured for a very long time, maybe that will be better when he is back and integrated into the team again.

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Quote from: bering on August 06, 2022, 03:58:06 AM

Fortuna Sittard will play against strong team Ajax and seems away team Ajax under Alfred Schreuder still need more time to adapt because they had unstable performance and the latest is Ajax lose from PSV and draw against second division team Almere City but the good thing is Ajax still too strong for their current opponent Fortuna Sittard because since 2018 Ajax always win from this team and if Ajax can improved their performance and forget their lose from PSV i think 3 points will belongs to them

I think Fortuna will be dealt with mercilessly today because if there's anything Ajax excel at, it's to prey on clubs that are beneath them.
With the season being fresh, I think Ajax will want to quickly secure their place at the top, and what easier way to do that than win in today's game?

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Fortuna Sittard will play against strong team Ajax and seems away team Ajax under Alfred Schreuder still need more time to adapt because they had unstable performance and the latest is Ajax lose from PSV and draw against second division team Almere City but the good thing is Ajax still too strong for their current opponent Fortuna Sittard because since 2018 Ajax always win from this team and if Ajax can improved their performance and forget their lose from PSV i think 3 points will belongs to them

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PSV were significantly close to Ajax last season indeed. It was one of the best shots they had for the championship but they failed still. For this season it is difficult to comment on this topic for now. Because we haven't watched PSV and Ajax both in any league match. After we leave some weeks behind we would have some clearer opinions. For now I can say that Ajax are once again the biggest candidate for becoming the champions. PSV will need to make a big difference to put an end to Ajax's streak.

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Quote from: Distraction on August 05, 2022, 07:34:03 AM

The season is finally about to start. Ajax have dominated the league in the recent few years and we will see if there will be any change by this season. PSV have made a really good progress recently in fact. However they still need to become even more competitive against Ajax to have a more serious chance for the league title. Ajax have sold some important players maybe but I don't think this would affect them deeply though. They have new signings also and this can help them keep their strength.

Last time was the season 17/18 when PSV was able to mage 83 points. It is pretty safe to say that is the least number of points if you want to have a chance against Ajax. They have been scoring in the mid 80s range for years. I must admit though that I literally don't know about a single player that they now newly signed. It is most likely going to be another close season between the two clubs. Maybe Feyenoord and Alkmaar can keep up with them though. I am wondering that it is so often said that Götze is a big loss for PSV. He has hardly performed convincingly ever since he scored his goal at the 2014 World Cup...

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The season is finally about to start. Ajax have dominated the league in the recent few years and we will see if there will be any change by this season. PSV have made a really good progress recently in fact. However they still need to become even more competitive against Ajax to have a more serious chance for the league title. Ajax have sold some important players maybe but I don't think this would affect them deeply though. They have new signings also and this can help them keep their strength.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on August 05, 2022, 02:35:40 AM

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I think everyone hopes that at least 3 teams can compete for the title this year, but unfortunately it will probably be a fight between PSV and Ajax again, even though I wish Feyenoord can keep up, but it will be difficult.

will be probably a two-way, between Ajax and PSV, I do not see Feyenoord in that fight, but let us follow the season

Ajax certainly did not forget to score goals (they scored 3 against PSV), but needs to improve defense, since they conceived five

what was the last time to see two Super Cup matches finished 3:5 same weekend, as last weekend Netherlands and Germany, probably once in a life time

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Quote from: blue Snow on August 04, 2022, 11:40:48 PM

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This weekend the Eredivisie starts, my favourite is Ajax again this year, even after the departures, they have strengthened themselves well and will be favourites again when they are rehearsed. Ajax have no exhausting qualification matches in the Champions league at the moment because they qualified directly for the group stage and can concentrate fully.

Let's see them vs Fortuna Sittard, Ajax always wins 7 games in head to head, The last match, Ajax created a big winning 5 goals without reply. So I think, Ajax shouldn't have a problem winning the opening match when look on privious match.

The statistics are clearly in favour of Ajax, normally it should be no problem for Ajax to win away at Fortuna Sittard. But let's wait and see, Ajax might have a hard time, but they don't seem to have forgotten how to score goals.

Quote from: blue Snow on August 04, 2022, 11:40:48 PM

I hope also, not PSV only but another club might have consistently broken Ajax domination and make Eredivisie more competitive than before.

I think everyone hopes that at least 3 teams can compete for the title this year, but unfortunately it will probably be a fight between PSV and Ajax again, even though I wish Feyenoord can keep up, but it will be difficult.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on August 04, 2022, 05:59:35 AM

This weekend the Eredivisie starts, my favourite is Ajax again this year, even after the departures, they have strengthened themselves well and will be favourites again when they are rehearsed. Ajax have no exhausting qualification matches in the Champions league at the moment because they qualified directly for the group stage and can concentrate fully.

Let's see them vs Fortuna Sittard, Ajax always wins 7 games in head to head, The last match, Ajax created a big winning 5 goals without reply. So I think, Ajax shouldn't have a problem winning the opening match when look on privious match.

Quote from: posi on August 04, 2022, 07:30:53 AM

I consider PSV as favorites to win the Eredivisie title next season. Ajax is a strong and renowned team. But they have lost a lot this season. They lost almost all the key players on the team. This season they will have to rely on new players. And so we might not get a consistent performance from Ajax this season. If PSV can perform somewhat consistently, PSV's title win is almost certain.

I hope also, not PSV only but another club might have consistently broken Ajax domination and make Eredivisie more competitive than before.

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Quote from: blue Snow on August 02, 2022, 07:09:00 AM

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This will not feel good for Ajax, not just a price loss, but with a new trainer you want to start the football season optimally and not lose 3-5 to your biggest competitor. Still, I think Ajax is still the big favorite to win the title in the competition.

Ajax lost many players and a brilliant coach for this session which I think hard to get back the tittle. Maybe they will continue it to Martinez, and make their defenns more weaker. Beside that, PSV is look more stronger and confidence with the squad now, they have Guus Til, a player who create a first hat trick which I thing he will continue to make trouble the opponent, especially Ajax. So, I will choose PSV again and hope I'm not wrong club again for this time.

I consider PSV as favorites to win the Eredivisie title next season. Ajax is a strong and renowned team. But they have lost a lot this season. They lost almost all the key players on the team. This season they will have to rely on new players. And so we might not get a consistent performance from Ajax this season. If PSV can perform somewhat consistently, PSV's title win is almost certain.

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Quote from: blue Snow on August 02, 2022, 07:09:00 AM

Ajax lost many players and a brilliant coach for this session which I think hard to get back the tittle. Maybe they will continue it to Martinez, and make their defenns more weaker. Beside that, PSV is look more stronger and confidence with the squad now, they have Guus Til, a player who create a first hat trick which I thing he will continue to make trouble the opponent, especially Ajax. So, I will choose PSV again and hope I'm not wrong club again for this time.

It's true that Ajax had big departures and now have to get back on track, but that can't be an excuse, plus the game was closer than the result suggests, but congratulations to PSV.

This weekend the Eredivisie starts, my favourite is Ajax again this year, even after the departures, they have strengthened themselves well and will be favourites again when they are rehearsed. Ajax have no exhausting qualification matches in the Champions league at the moment because they qualified directly for the group stage and can concentrate fully.

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on July 31, 2022, 02:43:16 PM

Ajax was also favorite to win the match.
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agree that Ajax was favorite to win this one, but match got out of control, and PSV scored almost all shots on target (5 in from 7 shots)

sure, this one hurts them, and could even push them back for first part of the season, but they seem as favorites to win the title, no matter this

PSV got one trophy already, congrats

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on July 31, 2022, 02:43:16 PM

This will not feel good for Ajax, not just a price loss, but with a new trainer you want to start the football season optimally and not lose 3-5 to your biggest competitor. Still, I think Ajax is still the big favorite to win the title in the competition.

Ajax lost many players and a brilliant coach for this session which I think hard to get back the tittle. Maybe they will continue it to Martinez, and make their defenns more weaker. Beside that, PSV is look more stronger and confidence with the squad now, they have Guus Til, a player who create a first hat trick which I thing he will continue to make trouble the opponent, especially Ajax. So, I will choose PSV again and hope I'm not wrong club again for this time.

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Ajax was also favorite to win the match. It ended up being 3-5, in fairness it must be said that Ajax completely outplayed PSV in the first half hour but failed to score any goals. PSV scored 2 goals from kind of dead game moments. PSV was much more effective with the opportunities they got. This will not feel good for Ajax, not just a price loss, but with a new trainer you want to start the football season optimally and not lose 3-5 to your biggest competitor. Still, I think Ajax is still the big favorite to win the title in the competition.

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Quote from: Joca97 on July 30, 2022, 04:34:15 PM

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Today was the match of the Johan Cruyf scale between national champion Ajax and cup winner PSV. Ajax quickly scored the 1-0, but after that it became 1-1 and before half-time it was still 1-2 ahead of PSV. In the end, the match ended in 3-5 and that is a major setback for Ajax, who had expected to win this match. But that is not a harbinger for the competition, because last year PSV won 0-4 and Ajax became champion.

Really an amazing derby and super cup. The match was just lit,too bad for the Ajax goalkeeper that made so many mistakes in the match but we will have an intresting league and maybe PSV can surprise and win the league aswell this season.

that result is very surprised me because Ajax is very favorite for Johan Cruyff's title. Guus Til is enough to overwhelm Ajax, I don't know how they are is very underestimated him?, Besides that player, my eye also focused on a bench, where I see Ex Mu and Madrid players, the top scorer in Champions League, Ruud van Nistelrooy, I just know him as PSV coach for this session which I think is suitable for PSV.

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on July 30, 2022, 03:16:10 PM

Today was the match of the Johan Cruyf scale between national champion Ajax and cup winner PSV. Ajax quickly scored the 1-0, but after that it became 1-1 and before half-time it was still 1-2 ahead of PSV. In the end, the match ended in 3-5 and that is a major setback for Ajax, who had expected to win this match. But that is not a harbinger for the competition, because last year PSV won 0-4 and Ajax became champion.

Really an amazing derby and super cup. The match was just lit,too bad for the Ajax goalkeeper that made so many mistakes in the match but we will have an intresting league and maybe PSV can surprise and win the league aswell this season.

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