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January 05, 2014, 03:28:31 AM

It's 0.0001 RPC. You have to verify email after registering though.
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January 05, 2014, 03:10:30 AM
http://rpc.pooljunkie.nl hit another block!

Do you help getting the network diff down faster and make some good money?

Join us today and help the community out!!

0,0001 tx fee and fast payout!
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January 05, 2014, 01:43:07 AM
I figured I'd condense this into one message so I could just repost whenever necessary.

We need RPC on multiple exchanges so that the low volume @ coinedup stops giving this coin a false value.

Here's a list of the exchanges and what you can do for each one of them to get this coin listed. If you know of additional ways you can PM me and I'll list it under each exchange (or if you know of other exchanges, but I think I've covered the big ones).

In the words of Arnold from Predator....DO IT!!! DO IT NAAOOOWWW!!

listed in no specific order

Cryptsy

1. Go to the support thread and LIKE/upvote as well as comment.

Registration is here if you need to REGISTER

Support thread is HERE be sure to LIKE and comment.

2. Go to Cryptsy Main Site and click the 'support' tab on the left hand side of the page and send a message requesting Ron Paul Coin to be added.

CoinEx

1. Go to CoinEx and click the 'get support' at the bottom left hand side of the page.....send a message requesting Ron Paul Coin to be added.


Coins-E

1. Go to Coins-e Contact Page and request Ron Paul Coin to be added.


Bter

1. Email [email protected] requesting Ron Paul Coin to be added to their exchange.


Vircurex

1. Email [email protected] request Ron Paul Coin to be added to their exchange.

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January 05, 2014, 01:11:04 AM
82 people have liked this https://cryptsy.freshdesk.com/support/discussions/topics/62074/page/1
out of the 100(+++) needed to get it on Cryptsy. No time for lazyness; register.

+100

Then tweet @RPCoin for free .01 RPC!
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January 05, 2014, 12:52:48 AM
82 people have liked this https://cryptsy.freshdesk.com/support/discussions/topics/62074/page/1
out of the 100(+++) needed to get it on Cryptsy. No time for lazyness; register.
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January 05, 2014, 12:35:55 AM
Voted to add RPC on Cryptsy
My nick name is "Ottobene"
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January 05, 2014, 12:01:39 AM
If you think this coin needs to be forked go mine/ buy/ sell something else.

Its setup the way it is for a reason.

For everyone else, go vote up the cryptsy, and if you have tweeted us for some free RPC its gonna be heading your way soon!

I agree.

I think the longer wait times between blocks (that doesn't happen all the time) gets rid of the pump-and-dumpers as it was intended to do. Or at least I think so.

Notice the hash rate going stratospheric last night? 1.5ghs at the peak I think.

When the giga-hashers prowl for a low diff-to-profit ratio on alts they don't stay long. They may be back, who knows. All I know is that EAC went berzerk just as RPC was dropping. Coincidence? No. EAC has a Cryptsy listing coming soon and the dumpers are getting primed for a sure thing...
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January 04, 2014, 11:34:00 PM
If you think this coin needs to be forked go mine/ buy/ sell something else.

Its setup the way it is for a reason.

For everyone else, go vote up the cryptsy, and if you have tweeted us for some free RPC its gonna be heading your way soon!
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January 04, 2014, 11:24:41 PM
That's all fine and good leewilson...    until it isn't.      

Will you still defend against dev interference when the coin is sitting at difficulty 50 and you can't even get any connections because everyone has abandoned it and moved on to greener pastures?  Ie, the market decided it didn't care for the existing code/law enforcing the loooooong difficulty retarget.   If so, well I guess you at least get some points for consistency in the face of hardship.

Others simply view this as a minor technical problem to be fixed, and then move on, without worrying so much about temporary drops in hashpower.

Hey, maybe we get lucky and the hash power never drops too much to recover from.  I'd rather not depend on luck though.

Anyway, it is for the dev to decide.  I've said my piece.

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"any ronpaul supporters reading this" do grasp the fact that the market will correct itself and that any interference by the dev hardforking is the same as governmental law and/or regulation...so quite the opposite of your theory.

You are correct and thank you.  I will always have a card pointed at this coin just because.  I believe what is being misunderstood is that the vast majority of RonPaul coin miners and future miners are not in it for the quick money or really any money (there are many many other alts for that) in general as much as they are for the principal alone.  In the long run this coin is for the truly dedicated.  I know I am not alone in this.
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January 04, 2014, 11:17:08 PM
What the hell is up with coinedup.com requiring some bs Google acct or "open id" to create an acct or login to the site? Like I trust Google or any major US tech company to keep my data private, much less what crypto coins I'm buying or trading. Why can't you just create a coinedup acct without all that baggage? Maybe I'm missing something?

I'm in the same boat.
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January 04, 2014, 11:16:07 PM
That's all fine and good leewilson...    until it isn't.      

Will you still defend against dev interference when the coin is sitting at difficulty 50 and you can't even get any connections because everyone has abandoned it and moved on to greener pastures?  Ie, the market decided it didn't care for the existing code/law enforcing the loooooong difficulty retarget.   If so, well I guess you at least get some points for consistency in the face of hardship.

Others simply view this as a minor technical problem to be fixed, and then move on, without worrying so much about temporary drops in hashpower.

Hey, maybe we get lucky and the hash power never drops too much to recover from.  I'd rather not depend on luck though.

Anyway, it is for the dev to decide.  I've said my piece.

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"any ronpaul supporters reading this" do grasp the fact that the market will correct itself and that any interference by the dev hardforking is the same as governmental law and/or regulation...so quite the opposite of your theory.
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January 04, 2014, 11:07:21 PM
What the hell is up with coinedup.com requiring some bs Google acct or "open id" to create an acct or login to the site? Like I trust Google or any major US tech company to keep my data private, much less what crypto coins I'm buying or trading. Why can't you just create a coinedup acct without all that baggage? Maybe I'm missing something?
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January 04, 2014, 11:04:44 PM
for reference, here are some of the latest block times.   I notice that block 8989 took 27 minutes.   I haven't done an average though.

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Block 8975    at 2014-01-04 17:31:21
 Block 8976    at 2014-01-04 17:33:26
 Block 8977    at 2014-01-04 17:34:05
 Block 8978    at 2014-01-04 17:35:16
 Block 8979    at 2014-01-04 17:52:53
 Block 8980    at 2014-01-04 18:05:26
 Block 8981    at 2014-01-04 18:08:09
 Block 8982    at 2014-01-04 18:08:56
 Block 8983    at 2014-01-04 18:09:21
 Block 8984    at 2014-01-04 18:11:01
 Block 8985    at 2014-01-04 18:17:22
 Block 8986    at 2014-01-04 18:28:14
 Block 8987    at 2014-01-04 18:29:21
 Block 8988    at 2014-01-04 18:30:51
 Block 8989    at 2014-01-04 18:57:51
 Block 8990    at 2014-01-04 19:03:00
 Block 8991    at 2014-01-04 19:23:46
 Block 8992    at 2014-01-04 19:23:49
 Block 8993    at 2014-01-04 19:26:44
 Block 8994    at 2014-01-04 19:31:17
 Block 8995    at 2014-01-04 19:36:57
 Block 8996    at 2014-01-04 19:40:03
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January 04, 2014, 11:01:08 PM
Let me see if I understand this.  

RonPaul Coin has 1/10th the total volume of Cat coin.
1 RonPaul Coin is 42x more than 1 Cat coin.

And those for a hardfork want to make it more like Cat coin?

What is really going on here!?
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January 04, 2014, 10:57:15 PM
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January 04, 2014, 10:53:35 PM
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January 04, 2014, 10:52:56 PM
bsd,

Have you solo mined any Diamond coin? If so, was it easier or more difficult than RPC?

Nah. This site is useful:
http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency

He's got jokes.  Shocked
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January 04, 2014, 10:49:57 PM
If the coin has a goal of 2 minute transaction times, then to me it seems logical that the code should attempt to achieve 2 minute transaction times as regularly as possible.

IMO a 720 block retarget is too long to achieve that goal in an environment where the coin is competing with many others for hash power, and large miners and pools can retarget hashpower at will.

I don't believe it benefits anyone when a coin gets stuck at a high difficulty and it subsequently takes days, weeks, or months to mine through all the remaining blocks.   This can and has killed coins, or forced them to hard-fork.    It also has the tendency to kill the coins value because it takes a very long time for transactions to get processed and because miners stop seeing any profit from mining it.    

Essentially the high difficulty is NOT responding to market forces due to an artificially long retarget time.  This is an imbalance in the market, much like a governmental law or regulation that gets in the way of market efficiency.  I would think that any ronpaul supporters reading this should grasp this intuitively.

So to my mind, the coin will be best served if the code is modified to use a faster retarget, something like 10 blocks.  Or even every block for immediate feedback.   Well, I am not an expert.... does anyone know if there is a problem with retargeting immediately?  

You can't do that like this, you have to add more blocks to the formula to avoid totally random difficulty changes.
Don't forget, block target is a goal only achieved once you average hundreds of block at a given difficulty/hashrate.
Each block still has a lot of variance in their resolution time when compared one to another : you can wait 10mn for a block, and then just after only wait for 10s, without changing the hashrate.
Fedoracoin has a 10 blocks retarget time, but when you have a stream of 10 lucky block found, difficulty can triple, and you have to wait sometime 30mn before having a more appropriate difficulty, when in an ideal configuration you should only wait 10mn.

720 blocks is too long, right, but you have to take into account at least 100 blocks to have a more stable difficulty. Independently, you can recalculate it more often, even every block. You just have to at least calculate an average over a sufficient amount of previous blocks.

But I'll say it again, it's far too soon to think of a fork, when this coin is only on one single very low volume exchange.

+1 and Thank you.
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January 04, 2014, 10:48:23 PM
If the coin has a goal of 2 minute transaction times, then to me it seems logical that the code should attempt to achieve 2 minute transaction times as regularly as possible.

IMO a 720 block retarget is too long to achieve that goal in an environment where the coin is competing with many others for hash power, and large miners and pools can retarget hashpower at will.

I don't believe it benefits anyone when a coin gets stuck at a high difficulty and it subsequently takes days, weeks, or months to mine through all the remaining blocks.   This can and has killed coins, or forced them to hard-fork.    It also has the tendency to kill the coins value because it takes a very long time for transactions to get processed and because miners stop seeing any profit from mining it.    

Essentially the high difficulty is NOT responding to market forces due to an artificially long retarget time.  This is an imbalance in the market, much like a governmental law or regulation that gets in the way of market efficiency.  I would think that any ronpaul supporters reading this should grasp this intuitively.

So to my mind, the coin will be best served if the code is modified to use a faster retarget, something like 10 blocks.  Or even every block for immediate feedback.   Well, I am not an expert.... does anyone know if there is a problem with retargeting immediately?  

"any ronpaul supporters reading this" do grasp the fact that the market will correct itself and that any interference by the dev hardforking is the same as governmental law and/or regulation...so quite the opposite of your theory.
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January 04, 2014, 10:45:53 PM
Sure, I agree it should be averaged over some number, but what is that number?    100 seems kind of high to me, and 720 definitely too high.  How about 25?   Anyway, the moving average could be adjusted every block -- is there any technical problem with doing that?

As to when to do it, the earlier the better sounds right to me.  The longer we wait, the more people it will bite if/when it becomes a real problem.

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