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Quote from: STT on May 20, 2023, 09:03:39 AM

Vitality should be near now to a win in their own country surely, its about time though its not a French team as such its their closest shot in awhile.

Facing GamerLegion in the grand final with the home crowd fully supporting them, it's hard to see Vitality losing this one. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if it's not even a close game. My prediction is another dominant 2-0 victory for Vitality in this match.

Good prediction. It was a dominant 2-0 win by Vitality over GamerLegion. In the first map, Overpass, Vitality dominated GamerLegion with a 16-6 win. In the second map, Nuke, GamerLegion had an early lead with 10-5. But Vitality was able to turn everything around in the second half and tied the game 13-13. Then they were able to win crucial rounds and ended the game with 16-13 record.

With this, Vitality won their first and last ever CS:GO Major. Counter Strike 2 is scheduled to replace CS:GO this year and there will be no more competitive CS:GO competition. The next major will be Counter Strike 2 next year. Hopefully, we will still see some of our favorite professional players play on CS2.

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As I expected yesterday, Vitality had a bit of a hard time against Apeks, but they came out on the winning side.There is only 1 obstacle left for them to become champions in the last major of CS:GO and I think it is an easy opponent for them.GL may have eliminated strong opponents while coming this far, but the fact that they do not have as much major experience as Vitality's players is a disadvantage for them. They are a team that has the potential to make a panicked mistake and lose round after round when a sudden decision needs to be made.Since they are all young players, it is a great achievement for them to get this far again, but of course they will want to be champions in the last CS:GO major.With the tournament taking place in France, it would be more pleasant for Vitality to win.

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The Gaimin Gladiators managed again to win a 2x major. This team never fails us to make a good performance. For me, they made a perfect analyzation with the new updates of dota 2; in the summarize of game one, the Team secret managed to win because of their excellent rotation and sustain with the combo of axe, puck and blood seek. This cant manage any core to escape because of the silence and slow they have, additional with the support of Lich that gives a tremendous amount of armour, game 2 GG get their win because of the medusa strategy we know this patch the medusa draft never been lost because of its damage and new mana shield. In game three, GG got this because of the meta of carrying Beast master and Magnus with the new item of Harpoon. They can easily initiation without a doubt because of the pickup and kills. Congrats to the people who bet on GG.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on May 20, 2023, 10:54:03 AM

T1 and Gen.G teams have been a big disappointment to me during the MSI. In fact, T1's losing to JDG by 3-2 was still okay as we watched great effort from both teams. However I wasn't expecting T1 to give up this easy against BLG by 3-1. I didn't like Faker the most about T1 honestly. Gumayusi also struggled seriously against Ruler and Elk from time to time.

But I get that T1 are a very young team right now and they need time to reach their potential. JDG and BLG are going to be facing each other tomorrow in the final series by the way. JDG already beat them once in the LPL 2023 Spring Playoffs by 3-1. Here in the MSI I will be expecting another victory by JDG.

It is indeed very surprising to see both Korea teams to be out this early. They were bulldozed by China teams hard really. Peyz and Gumayusi both weren't able to play in the way they actually wanted against Elk and Ruler during this tournament. Ruler is already the best bottom laner among them in my opinion and Elk also impressed me a lot here also. There are only 15 minutes to go for the final series to start. It has been a big joy to watch China teams until now and hopefully this series will also be delightful.

Maybe the LPL finale ended like that but here I will wait for a more competitive series. But still JDG are the favourite team at a serious rate right now and I also expect them to be the winner.

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Quote from: STT on May 20, 2023, 09:03:39 AM

Very big surprise considering all the big names, it feels like people are distracted or off their best game for many reasons. I'm watching GL do very well vs Heroic right now on the first map and leading for large patches of the game however Heroic could take both maps without a push to stop them. I didnt want to bet on Heroic on poor odds considering the challenge to them is real, so I bet 3 maps.
Im not sure I will bet the Vitality game later as the odds are quite low even for a precise score prediction, watching it for the grand final might be more important.

Another upset. GamerLegion beat Heroic 2-1. The first two maps were close but Heroic didn't show up at all on the third map.

Quote from: STT on May 20, 2023, 09:03:39 AM

Vitality should be near now to a win in their own country surely, its about time though its not a French team as such its their closest shot in awhile.

Facing GamerLegion in the grand final with the home crowd fully supporting them, it's hard to see Vitality losing this one. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if it's not even a close game. My prediction is another dominant 2-0 victory for Vitality in this match.

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I really have to congratulate Gamerlegion.I didn't expect them to make it this far and I think most people will agree with me.I never expected them to beat a team like Heroic.IM, who really has players, was the difference maker for them. He showed an incredible performance in the team and we can say that he played a leading role in winning the match.Heroic, on the other hand, were not very good as a team against the GL team.iM covered Keoz's bad play with a clear difference.Heroic lost the map of their choice, inferno, with a close score.If they had won that map, we could have seen them in the final, but it didn't happen.
Now we are watching the Vitality-Apeks match.I don't expect any surprises in this match.Vitality is the only team left from the hosts and I think there is no big obstacle for them to reach the championship.I expect Apeks to eliminate the team and beat GL in the final.

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T1 and Gen.G teams have been a big disappointment to me during the MSI. In fact, T1's losing to JDG by 3-2 was still okay as we watched great effort from both teams. However I wasn't expecting T1 to give up this easy against BLG by 3-1. I didn't like Faker the most about T1 honestly. Gumayusi also struggled seriously against Ruler and Elk from time to time.

But I get that T1 are a very young team right now and they need time to reach their potential. JDG and BLG are going to be facing each other tomorrow in the final series by the way. JDG already beat them once in the LPL 2023 Spring Playoffs by 3-1. Here in the MSI I will be expecting another victory by JDG.

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Vitality should be near now to a win in their own country surely, its about time though its not a French team as such its their closest shot in awhile. However depending on the odds I was waiting to bet Heroic perhaps because they seem a hybrid of all aspects required to win a CSGO match.

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The big surprise was rather to see Apeks and GamerLegion to reach the Semis.

Very big surprise considering all the big names, it feels like people are distracted or off their best game for many reasons. I'm watching GL do very well vs Heroic right now on the first map and leading for large patches of the game however Heroic could take both maps without a push to stop them. I didnt want to bet on Heroic on poor odds considering the challenge to them is real, so I bet 3 maps.
Im not sure I will bet the Vitality game later as the odds are quite low even for a precise score prediction, watching it for the grand final might be more important.

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Quote from: Mauser on May 20, 2023, 01:49:05 AM

The big surprise was rather to see Apeks and GamerLegion to reach the Semis.

Monte played so badly yesterday I can't believe NaVi lost to them. For most Monte players it was their first time on a big stage and without a coach behind them, I think it affect their performance.

Quote from: Mauser on May 20, 2023, 01:49:05 AM

The first match will be Heroic vs GamerLegion and should be won easily by Heroic, they won all the matches this tournament and should have no issue reaching the Grand Final. The same goes for the Vitality vs Apeks match, Vitality won all their matches and is the much stronger team. I am sure we are going to see a remake of the IEM Rio Finals with Heroic facing Vitality. Which is going to be an exciting match that will be quite close, but I think that Vitality is going to prevail a second time over Heroic and remain #1 team in CSGO.

Betting 2-0 for both semifinal matches. Although Apeks look really strong again Liquid yesterday and they came prepared, Jkaem stated they were anti-stratting Liquid. But Vitality in their home arena with the crowd should be unbeatable. This is their major to win.

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Quote from: dimonstration on May 19, 2023, 11:48:44 AM

Tundra is the most inconsistent during the time when they are still the heavily favored.

GG is like the new Tundra. I saw how Tundra has been at the top and they're like on GG's shoes now.

Quote from: dimonstration on May 19, 2023, 11:48:44 AM

GG somehow still very consistent but I will not consider betting always a sweep match for them since we saw them multi times being swept by the weakest team in their bracket despite they are still the number on their group by beating other strong team.

If it's about sweeping a match, you can count them on like in semis or finals. They're always dominating on those times of the tournament because they're playing safe and making sure that each move they do is always accurate and will execute their strategies properly.

Even if their opponent focuses on Quinn in the mid, the other 4 are just unstoppable and yeah they've always been too consistent and irresistible.

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The Semi Finals of the Blast.tv Paris Major 2023 are happening today and the Grand Final will be played tomorrow. The tournament passed by quite quickly as I didn't have much time to watch all of the games the last week. With only 3 matches left I definitely want to bet on them. With Heroic and Vitality reaching the semis it wasn't a big surprise, the two teams faced each other in the last big tournament and are ranked 1st and 2nd strongest team in the world. The big surprise was rather to see Apeks and GamerLegion to reach the Semis. The first match will be Heroic vs GamerLegion and should be won easily by Heroic, they won all the matches this tournament and should have no issue reaching the Grand Final. The same goes for the Vitality vs Apeks match, Vitality won all their matches and is the much stronger team. I am sure we are going to see a remake of the IEM Rio Finals with Heroic facing Vitality. Which is going to be an exciting match that will be quite close, but I think that Vitality is going to prevail a second time over Heroic and remain #1 team in CSGO.

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The last major of CS:GO continues to have interesting results.Of course, this is my opinion.I don't know if anyone will participate or not, but I think it's a fact that there are surprise results among the teams that made it to the end.In the Monte-GL match played today, I expected monte to win in the pick'em and I picked them, but GL managed to win with a good game.As a team that eliminated NaVi, I honestly didn't think they would perform so badly.
In the other match, I didn't expect Liquid to lose to a team like Apeks after a good group stage and I also expected Liquid to make the round, but I was surprised here too.Liquid was terrible as a team.

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After T1's defeat against JDG by 3-2 I thought that we wouldn't have seen a bigger defeat in the remaining time of the MSI tournament. But today Gen.G were literally destroyed by BLG. Chinese teams have been showing spectacular performances until this point. But still I would have liked to see some resistance from Gen.G as they are the LCK winner as you know. I even expected a win from Gen.G after a tough fight.

In this disappointing table I didn't like especially Doran's performance after watching him in one of the games in the series. I don't know why but he seems like he is lost these days. He is quite prone to make simple mistakes.

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Yeah it was pretty close and I ended up losing again because of that. You know what, I feel stupid betting constantly on Dota and I have been losing ever since the last Major. Well its not actually that much but losing bets like that makes me feel dumb especially when I already have a good pick then somehow parlay them up therefore I decided to bet on Blast Major which ended up winning it without actually doing much research on it Roll Eyes

It's the same for me i'd have that one good betting day, then the next few days would all be losses.

I got baited by GG thinking they'll sweep Team Secret, but Team Secret surprised GG with a solid draft to win the first game then the next two weren't even close. Pre-live betting sucks right now, and watching the draft first might be the best move or skip. Tongue

This is why I never bet on prematch even in all sports.I don’t care about the difference on odds because that odds difference doesn’t matter if your bet loss. Dota2 is one of the game that has a very inconsistent result especially on group stage because most of the team is experimenting and doesn’t have clear strategy that will works on a short matches.

Tundra is the most inconsistent during the time when they are still the heavily favored. GG somehow still very consistent but I will not consider betting always a sweep match for them since we saw them multi times being swept by the weakest team in their bracket despite they are still the number on their group by beating other strong team.

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Quote from: ralle14 on May 19, 2023, 11:14:41 AM

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While for their 2nd map, having a Windranger again for their mid. It seems that they want Stormstormer to have it mastered and be tested. Well, I remember Bulba wanting Abed to keep on playing with Storm Spirit for five times straight IIRC.

Or it might've been one of the best picks in scrims because Team Liquid picked it once in one of their series, but they couldn't make it work.

Yeah possible.

I've heard it from other players that those crazy picks that we've been seeing from them were successfully tested during their scrims and it's even a surprise to them that it wasn't effective during the actual tournament matches.

But that's how it goes and they never stop practicing and improving on this path. It's gonna be harder when most of them adjusted already while some of these teams haven't adjusted yet.

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Quote from: arallmuus on May 18, 2023, 04:30:14 PM

Yeah it was pretty close and I ended up losing again because of that. You know what, I feel stupid betting constantly on Dota and I have been losing ever since the last Major. Well its not actually that much but losing bets like that makes me feel dumb especially when I already have a good pick then somehow parlay them up therefore I decided to bet on Blast Major which ended up winning it without actually doing much research on it Roll Eyes

It's the same for me i'd have that one good betting day, then the next few days would all be losses.

I got baited by GG thinking they'll sweep Team Secret, but Team Secret surprised GG with a solid draft to win the first game then the next two weren't even close. Pre-live betting sucks right now, and watching the draft first might be the best move or skip. Tongue

Quote from: boyptc on May 18, 2023, 04:35:05 PM

While for their 2nd map, having a Windranger again for their mid. It seems that they want Stormstormer to have it mastered and be tested. Well, I remember Bulba wanting Abed to keep on playing with Storm Spirit for five times straight IIRC.

Or it might've been one of the best picks in scrims because Team Liquid picked it once in one of their series, but they couldn't make it work.

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Quote from: ralle14 on May 17, 2023, 08:33:04 PM

I feel so dumb taking Entity as well because they killed their draft instantly by going with Windranger twice, and they included an unusual Magnus pick in the second game that only made their team fight execution much harder.

That game was too easy for Tundra against Entity. I guess they're still on the testing phase with these adjustments as it's becoming a new meta of having Windranger as their carry.

The first game goes for Stormstormer's Windranger and it didn't do a lot. I like this Tundra's pick as it's exotic and this is the scary line up that a team couldn't beat easily.

While for their 2nd map, having a Windranger again for their mid. It seems that they want Stormstormer to have it mastered and be tested. Well, I remember Bulba wanting Abed to keep on playing with Storm Spirit for five times straight IIRC.

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OG almost made the Windranger carry work to get the 2-0, but they got punished by their unnecessary buybacks in the late game.

Yeah it was pretty close and I ended up losing again because of that. You know what, I feel stupid betting constantly on Dota and I have been losing ever since the last Major. Well its not actually that much but losing bets like that makes me feel dumb especially when I already have a good pick then somehow parlay them up therefore I decided to bet on Blast Major which ended up winning it without actually doing much research on it Roll Eyes

Feels so weird but hey atleast its a start for me

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Quote from: arallmuus on May 17, 2023, 01:20:24 PM

Yeah the odds was great and my only regret was parlaying that with Entity +1.5. If only I hadn't do that then I would have racked in decent amount. I've done this numerous time, getting some good pick then somehow think that the odds was not enough therefore parlaying it onto another bet then somehow lose the ticket FFS Roll Eyes

Im starting to think getting OG-1.5 should be a good option to recoup what I've loss today

I feel so dumb taking Entity as well because they killed their draft instantly by going with Windranger twice, and they included an unusual Magnus pick in the second game that only made their team fight execution much harder.

OG almost made the Windranger carry work to get the 2-0, but they got punished by their unnecessary buybacks in the late game.

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Quote from: ralle14 on May 16, 2023, 08:16:42 PM

Blacklist is performing better with kpii now in the offlane but their 2-0 win against BOOM wasn't as impressive compared to what Talon had to go through against SMG.

Having Kpii is truly a boost for them but after watching their match against Talon. It's certain that they're still far from beating them. In retrospect, there's a problem with their drafts and I don't know if they're all agreeing with the picks but mostly they do and Ninjaboogie is involved in it. I think that Kpii's help and experience will also help them learn from this match against Talon. And can't argue with anyone that SEA's strongest now is them, Talon and those that are saying that it's the weakest region up til' now - is true.

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