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But in GG, even if he goes aggressive, his support is always there on the right place to back him up. And it is working for them for quite some time now. Even on this new patch, they quite adopted very quickly and maintained their dominance in DOTA 2.
That and having an active squad hunting in different parts of the map is much needed during this patch since kills are more rewarding and their drafts are too good.
Seleri and Tofu are really a good tandem, no offense to other pos 4 and 5 support tandems but them, they're noticeable and have brought the team very well.

Are there Old G fans here? Remember when they've been defaulted because there's no resolution and kitrak to play for them since the two played stand in in the Berlin major?

They're forfeited for their division 2 slot and has to go through with the qualifiers.

Old G disqualified from DPC WEU 2023 Tour 3 Closed Qualifiers
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Apeks have been one of the really impressive teams in Major Challenger Stage so far. First they beat Liquid by 16-12. Liquid are the team in the 7th place on HLTV right now and they are really strong. After that Apeks put on an amazing show by a 16-0 victory over Grayhound. You know Grayhound are normally a team that don't have much different placement than Apeks. There are going to be 8 teams joining Legends Stage from this one. Thus it is important to make your best effort here in this stage.

I think there will be one or two good teams making a surprise by being eliminated in this stage. I wouldn't like to see one of them being Liquid. It has a really good roster actually and YEKINDAR is my favourite fragger there. It would be sad not to see him in Legends Stage.
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I've been enthusiastic that they'll be the ones to stop GG. Yes, they did win but just one time to them, and then the rest is history and another victory for GG.
You're right and you're feeling exactly was the outcome of this match and they did win the grand finals making this tournament another easy tournament for them since all of those past majors.
Who do you think can stop GG from the next tournaments? While, it's already announced that the next TI12 will be in Seattle, USA.

I also thought that Team Liquid will be able to win against GG, especially after pulling that pocket strat against 9Pandas in the Lower Bracket Finals. I thought they will have another pocket strat specifically tailored for the Gaimin Gladiator but GG is just too strong for Team Liquid right now. I guess with the game play that they have, GG will continue to be dominant this year.
GG is just unstoppable and they need to be stopped or should I say that they are unlikely to be stopped by whomever. But just another good news for Sumail, he's been taken as a loan by Team Aster as their mid lane until the TI12.
This is actually good for him that he's got a better team now, he'll not do good with Nigma Galaxy because they're just now a weak team and have been falling shortly and barely manages to get to the lan tournaments.
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In LOL at MSI we have now EU vs Korea and China vs USA so we can expect Korea and China to advance. It played out so bad for EU this time around but we can expect some suprises from them.



EU vs Korea isn't going to be easy at all. G2 are going to face Gen.g and MAD Lions are going to compete against T1. Both of these European teams can have serious difficulties in these series. Because Korean teams are still playing at an incredible level. Normally T1 are the team at top in Korea in my opinion. But Gen.g proved themselves very strong once again by beating T1 in LCK. So both of these Korean teams can be a big challenge for the Europeans.

If one of these European teams make a surprise maybe it might be MAD Lions as I like their effort more than G2 recently. There are other series like C9 - BLG and JDG - GG. My favourites are BLG and JDG here. As far as I know BLG don't have any MSI experience but there is still a big difference in game between them and C9 now. GG look very weak against JDG which are the LPL champions.
I like MAD more too but I think in international stage the G2 team has higher peak and they are more hungry. Now will they be able to perform we will see. I think LEC has good read on meta at the moment but will that be enough to beat Korea I don't think so.
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But in GG, even if he goes aggressive, his support is always there on the right place to back him up. And it is working for them for quite some time now. Even on this new patch, they quite adopted very quickly and maintained their dominance in DOTA 2.
That and having an active squad hunting in different parts of the map is much needed during this patch since kills are more rewarding and their drafts are too good.

Congratulations to Gaimin Gladiator for winning the Berlin Major. It is their second major win for this year. They continue to dominate DOTA 2 and this might continue until the TI. Hopefully, they will not be like OG before the TI win, winning major after major and dropping the most important tournament of the year, TI.
And it's their third tournament win since there's also the DreamLeague just before this major. Maintaining their form will be tough but I think they can hold it throughout as long as every member of the team can keep up with the squad.

When Team Liquid dropped a map against 9Pandas during the lower bracket finals that was more than enough for me to expect another convincing win from Gaimin Gladiators.
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Another looking easy win for GG.

Well, there's still some 1 win from Team Liquid and from all of those matches that they've got, this is the only one win from them against the Gaimin Gladiators.

The rest, they're all losses and that means a lot to them and also for GG. We can say that they're the strongest team right now and hopefully they won't choke on the TI.

I feel the Vibes of Tundra last year on them. The only difference was they are very consistent when Quinn added on their roster. Quinn is carrying more the team compared to Dyrachyo because he always dominate the mid lane on the lane stage while still have a strong finish on late game.

So far he is the best mid laner that even Nisha is having a hard time to match him. I think they will not choke because they can easily adapt on the new patches. Maybe having an incomplete roster is the only way for them to choke assuming they will continue to play like this.

Quinn was a good addition to Gaimin Gladiator and he really fits to their gameplay. In his previous team, Quincy Crew, Quinn is quite aggressive and sometimes getting in an island of enemies without his crew. But in GG, even if he goes aggressive, his support is always there on the right place to back him up. And it is working for them for quite some time now. Even on this new patch, they quite adopted very quickly and maintained their dominance in DOTA 2.

Congratulations to Gaimin Gladiator for winning the Berlin Major. It is their second major win for this year. They continue to dominate DOTA 2 and this might continue until the TI. Hopefully, they will not be like OG before the TI win, winning major after major and dropping the most important tournament of the year, TI.

I've been enthusiastic that they'll be the ones to stop GG. Yes, they did win but just one time to them, and then the rest is history and another victory for GG.
You're right and you're feeling exactly was the outcome of this match and they did win the grand finals making this tournament another easy tournament for them since all of those past majors.
Who do you think can stop GG from the next tournaments? While, it's already announced that the next TI12 will be in Seattle, USA.

I also thought that Team Liquid will be able to win against GG, especially after pulling that pocket strat against 9Pandas in the Lower Bracket Finals. I thought they will have another pocket strat specifically tailored for the Gaimin Gladiator but GG is just too strong for Team Liquid right now. I guess with the game play that they have, GG will continue to be dominant this year.
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Another looking easy win for GG.

Well, there's still some 1 win from Team Liquid and from all of those matches that they've got, this is the only one win from them against the Gaimin Gladiators.

The rest, they're all losses and that means a lot to them and also for GG. We can say that they're the strongest team right now and hopefully they won't choke on the TI.

I feel the Vibes of Tundra last year on them. The only difference was they are very consistent when Quinn added on their roster. Quinn is carrying more the team compared to Dyrachyo because he always dominate the mid lane on the lane stage while still have a strong finish on late game.

So far he is the best mid laner that even Nisha is having a hard time to match him. I think they will not choke because they can easily adapt on the new patches. Maybe having an incomplete roster is the only way for them to choke assuming they will continue to play like this.
I wouldn't compare the role of Quinn and Drachyo but it's true that the impact of Quinn really is visible and can't be ignore when he's with the team.

They're winning major after a major and then is now near to securing a slot in the next The International. Team Liquid secures TI slot and GG is the 2nd of the dpc ranking so this will still make them secure the slot even if there will be another team that shall be in there.

Not that much points to cover those that are at the bottom so this means a lot for GG, whether they participate another major which will be the last one or the other DPC tour, that won't matter anymore as points will be lacking for most teams securing them that slot soon.
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Where's the hype on this thread guys? Berlin Major is now in the grand finals. The two teams are:
  • Team Liquid
  • Gaimin Gladiators
With the history of these two teams, Team Liquid didn't beat them from the last major that they faced together and that was during the Lima majors.
For the first map, there's Pudge + Alche + DS for Team Liquid while for Gaimin Gladiators, they've got typical heroes and with a Terrorblade as carry.
Team Liquid looked a bit off this tournament and still they were able to make it to grand final. That being said Gaimin Gladiators looked good in all matched and I don't see a way for Liquid to win today. I took GG @1.6 after few minutes of the first map, don't know what were the odds before it started but I fell like realistic odds should have been something like 1.4.
I've been enthusiastic that they'll be the ones to stop GG. Yes, they did win but just one time to them, and then the rest is history and another victory for GG.
You're right and you're feeling exactly was the outcome of this match and they did win the grand finals making this tournament another easy tournament for them since all of those past majors.
Who do you think can stop GG from the next tournaments? While, it's already announced that the next TI12 will be in Seattle, USA.
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Another looking easy win for GG.

Well, there's still some 1 win from Team Liquid and from all of those matches that they've got, this is the only one win from them against the Gaimin Gladiators.

The rest, they're all losses and that means a lot to them and also for GG. We can say that they're the strongest team right now and hopefully they won't choke on the TI.

I feel the Vibes of Tundra last year on them. The only difference was they are very consistent when Quinn added on their roster. Quinn is carrying more the team compared to Dyrachyo because he always dominate the mid lane on the lane stage while still have a strong finish on late game.

So far he is the best mid laner that even Nisha is having a hard time to match him. I think they will not choke because they can easily adapt on the new patches. Maybe having an incomplete roster is the only way for them to choke assuming they will continue to play like this.
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GG wins on Dota2 ESL Major. Liquid doesn’t have a chance to win game 4 to tie the score. I can’t believe that they let GG pick all the global presence hero like Wisp and Underlord while they doesn’t have one even a sustain heroes. They only have frost armor and that’s all. They can’t take down easily even the support of GG because of wisp sustainability.

Still Team Liquid do a nice job here from close to early elimination to grand finals. GG is just much better overall and very consistent. Quinn is very strong on this team. Supports works well with his aggressiveness.
Another looking easy win for GG.

Well, there's still some 1 win from Team Liquid and from all of those matches that they've got, this is the only one win from them against the Gaimin Gladiators.

The rest, they're all losses and that means a lot to them and also for GG. We can say that they're the strongest team right now and hopefully they won't choke on the TI.
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GG wins on Dota2 ESL Major. Liquid doesn’t have a chance to win game 4 to tie the score. I can’t believe that they let GG pick all the global presence hero like Wisp and Underlord while they doesn’t have one even a sustain heroes. They only have frost armor and that’s all. They can’t take down easily even the support of GG because of wisp sustainability.

Still Team Liquid do a nice job here from close to early elimination to grand finals. GG is just much better overall and very consistent. Quinn is very strong on this team. Supports works well with his aggressiveness.
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In LOL at MSI we have now EU vs Korea and China vs USA so we can expect Korea and China to advance. It played out so bad for EU this time around but we can expect some suprises from them.



EU vs Korea isn't going to be easy at all. G2 are going to face Gen.g and MAD Lions are going to compete against T1. Both of these European teams can have serious difficulties in these series. Because Korean teams are still playing at an incredible level. Normally T1 are the team at top in Korea in my opinion. But Gen.g proved themselves very strong once again by beating T1 in LCK. So both of these Korean teams can be a big challenge for the Europeans.

If one of these European teams make a surprise maybe it might be MAD Lions as I like their effort more than G2 recently. There are other series like C9 - BLG and JDG - GG. My favourites are BLG and JDG here. As far as I know BLG don't have any MSI experience but there is still a big difference in game between them and C9 now. GG look very weak against JDG which are the LPL champions.
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In LOL at MSI we have now EU vs Korea and China vs USA so we can expect Korea and China to advance. It played out so bad for EU this time around but we can expect some suprises from them.
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Team Liquid looked a bit off this tournament and still they were able to make it to grand final. That being said Gaimin Gladiators looked good in all matched and I don't see a way for Liquid to win today. I took GG @1.6 after few minutes of the first map, don't know what were the odds before it started but I fell like realistic odds should have been something like 1.4.

Yeah, Team Liquid game play is very inconsistent due to the new patch but they have a pretty good run on their low bracket journey after the group stage. I think they already adjusted and in momentum right now even if GG is already ahead by 1 game to them. The fight duration of both team decreases each round. I believe they really know well each other for them to have a quick adjustment against enemy team.

I don’t feel that GG will choke here but I believe on momentum so I abstain on this match and just enjoy watching. GL to your bet.
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Where's the hype on this thread guys? Berlin Major is now in the grand finals. The two teams are:
  • Team Liquid
  • Gaimin Gladiators
With the history of these two teams, Team Liquid didn't beat them from the last major that they faced together and that was during the Lima majors.
For the first map, there's Pudge + Alche + DS for Team Liquid while for Gaimin Gladiators, they've got typical heroes and with a Terrorblade as carry.
Team Liquid looked a bit off this tournament and still they were able to make it to grand final. That being said Gaimin Gladiators looked good in all matched and I don't see a way for Liquid to win today. I took GG @1.6 after few minutes of the first map, don't know what were the odds before it started but I fell like realistic odds should have been something like 1.4.
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Where's the hype on this thread guys? Berlin Major is now in the grand finals. The two teams are:
  • Team Liquid
  • Gaimin Gladiators
With the history of these two teams, Team Liquid didn't beat them from the last major that they faced together and that was during the Lima majors.
For the first map, there's Pudge + Alche + DS for Team Liquid while for Gaimin Gladiators, they've got typical heroes and with a Terrorblade as carry.

Even South America is now a strong region. SEA is now the weakest.
Reality hurts but that's the truth.
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Talon does not perform the same way as its the era of 23savage and kuku, in this bet I make an all in with the EG after they destroy the old EG which is the Shopify in this series their drafts are really in favor with the Talon in the first game because they have a sustains and initiator but in this game, they got countered with the Underlord and the void chorono they got scared to initiate even though they have the magnus, the reason why they lose the game, in the second game, their drafts are for the early game even kotl are in their side but Storm of C.smile get dominated in the early game losses the series of talon for a 2-0.


Do you mean T1 because Kuku never joined Talon since they announced this organization on Dota2. I agree have a better run to represent SEA than Talon. In general, SEA Dota decreases a lot quality because we can’t use the patches properly. SEA is always late on adapting to the patches because teams here are all on the same low level. I really missed watching SEA teams competing international team on equal grounds. So far all SEA teams are inferior to international team. Even South America is now a strong region. SEA is now the weakest.

On the EG vs Talon. It’s understandable that Talon got swept since EG is on different level. They are out drafted and outplayed many times.
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I won my multi, all the major teams win and not a day for underdogs.

Good for you, meanwhile I lost all of my betslip since yesterday Roll Eyes. I guess I have been having bad day after all and its not even limited to esports, I lost on every other sports that I bet on

Fun fact, I have been so much in love with high odds parlay for a few days therefore yeah my betslip consist of those illogical bet that I put in because of the high odds then somehow backfire to me

Guess I'll just stick with usual bet instead



Yeah EG is a slight favourites but watching how Talon actually kicked PSG.LGD out of The Major, I think they have slightly better chance to win

Talon does not perform the same way as its the era of 23savage and kuku, in this bet I make an all in with the EG after they destroy the old EG which is the Shopify in this series their drafts are really in favor with the Talon in the first game because they have a sustains and initiator but in this game, they got countered with the Underlord and the void chorono they got scared to initiate even though they have the magnus, the reason why they lose the game, in the second game, their drafts are for the early game even kotl are in their side but Storm of C.smile get dominated in the early game losses the series of talon for a 2-0.
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We've been playing games like this and that position 5 medusa should have just built as a carry as well when he's able to gather some items and gold during the mid-late game. That will give OG the help that Ursa(OG) needs against Naga(EG) and AM(EG) that are too tough and tanky.
Shifting position 5 to a hard carry is very hard to do even on late game. OG will be lacking support utilities to sustain carries. This is only possible if position 1 and 2 is capable to sustain of their own which is not on OG case. They just use Medusa Split shot to determine the real Naga instead of using it as the real carry of the game.

I didn’t watch the game but wth with this pos 5 Medusa. The split shot is really a good counter but the sustain is what they are lacking on this game. AM is a hard counter for Medusa which means her mana shield is useless especially on late game when AM has an items.

I’m surprised OG managed to extend this game to almost 1hr match without a sustain and pure damage. EG doesn’t have sustain but they Song for a complete reset or reposition.
That's what I'm saying and there's no split shot on that Medusa and there's really no help in damage because the items on that medusa were all for help and support.
Well, the game is done and it's managed to reach game 3 but that game 3 was a joke for OG. They looked like little children playing against veterans.
Well done for EG and they're going to advance to face Team Liquid for the top 4 and moving forward to top 3. Now, the game is 9pandas and Gaimin Gladiators.
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We've been playing games like this and that position 5 medusa should have just built as a carry as well when he's able to gather some items and gold during the mid-late game. That will give OG the help that Ursa(OG) needs against Naga(EG) and AM(EG) that are too tough and tanky.
Shifting position 5 to a hard carry is very hard to do even on late game. OG will be lacking support utilities to sustain carries. This is only possible if position 1 and 2 is capable to sustain of their own which is not on OG case. They just use Medusa Split shot to determine the real Naga instead of using it as the real carry of the game.

I didn’t watch the game but wth with this pos 5 Medusa. The split shot is really a good counter but the sustain is what they are lacking on this game. AM is a hard counter for Medusa which means her mana shield is useless especially on late game when AM has an items.

I’m surprised OG managed to extend this game to almost 1hr match without a sustain and pure damage. EG doesn’t have sustain but they Song for a complete reset or reposition.
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