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legendary
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November 26, 2019, 10:14:10 PM
^^^ Seriously, have you considered that you're gullible, you know being spoon fed plausible sounding stories?

Once species has never been shown to give birth to another. Adaptation to the environment certainly doesn't prove this nor are there any intermediate fossils to back up this claim.

Your entire paradigm of big bang to cheeky monkey is a farce and you're being played the fool.
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November 26, 2019, 09:25:29 PM
If evolution isn't true, how do bacteria develop resistance to antibiotics? Do new genes just magically appear?

Why do we have so many different types of flu? Why is there a new strain every year?


If all you saw was the corner pocket of the pool table, you might ask how that ball got into the corner pocket. It's similar with all kinds of questions about biology and physics, and everything else.

Just because we don't know the cause and effect processes that cause bacteria to become resistant to diseases, certainly doesn't mean it's evolution. Why there are new strains of flu, has to do with adaptation and cause and effect, both of which are very complex operations.

Random has two basic meanings:
1. We don't know;
2. Pure spontaneity.
Evolution theory says that there has to be random. Which kind is it? The random of us not knowing, or something purely spontaneous in the universe? If it's us not knowing, then why say evolution has anything to do with it? Good guessing?

Everybody knows that there are tons of things that we don't know. But nobody has proof for even one spontaneous happening where something new just came about for no reason. In fact, pure spontaneity is something that doesn't even make sense in our universe.

Regarding your questions, let me add to them the question of all the forces that cause a leaf to sway in the breeze. We can't track even one molecule of air that hits the leaf. We may never be able to so track a molecule.

Your questions don't have answers because we aren't smart enough, or capable enough, yet. Evolution isn't an answer except to the ignorant. And the smart evolutionists know this.

Evolution is a hoax.

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Manuka honey found to eliminate deadly drug-resistant bacteria in cystic fibrosis (CF) infections



When modern medicine can’t solve a health issue, nature often comes to the rescue. Although many people believe that the latest cutting-edge medical developments surely must outperform anything that can be found in nature given the research and money that goes into development, studies like a recent one on cystic fibrosis patients prove that nature still has a valuable place in treating illnesses.

Researchers from Swansea University found that Manuka honey can help treat antimicrobial-resistant respiratory infections, especially the deadly kind that can strike people with cystic fibrosis.

One of the biggest problems that cystic fibrosis patients face are long-lasting respiratory infections. These infections are often deadly because they contain bacteria that resists antibiotics. Although lung transplants can sometimes help in these cases, it’s not a foolproof approach as there are lots of potential side effects and the possibility of re-infection.

For some patients, the type of bacteria infecting them can damage the lungs significantly and even prevent them from being lung transplant candidates. That’s why an effective way to kill these types of bacteria is so desperately needed.

Manuka honey has been shown to kill antibiotic-resistant bacteria in surface wounds, so the researchers decided to look into using it as an alternative to antibiotics in cystic fibrosis patients.

They treated grown bacterial infections in lung tissue from pigs with Manuka honey to see how well it performed. They compared it to the action of three antibiotics sometimes used for such infections: ciprofloxacin, tobramycin, and ceftazidime.

We actually do know the answer, and it's evolution.

When bacteria multiply, some of them get mutations. Most of them make the bacteria die (just like how genetic diseases and cancer, also caused by mutations, are bad for people), but considering that there are trillions of bacteria and that they reproduce literally every day, some of them are bound to get mutations that help them against antibiotics. When you use antibiotics, the normal bacteria all die, while some of the bacteria with "helpful" mutations survive. What's left is all the resistant bacteria, which quickly reproduce (that's why you have to take antibiotics even after you feel better). After that, you end up with mostly resistant bacteria. That's basically how evolution works.

I don't understand why this is hard for scientifically illiterate evolution deniers to understand. Humans have been causing evolution for quite a while, just look at corn before and after we started farming. How did we turn wolves into dogs? How did we turn horses into donkeys? Horses and donkeys (along with wolves and dogs) are different species now, they can reproduce, but the offspring is infertile (as they have different numbers of chromosomes), meaning that they effectively can't pass their genes on if they mate. See, humans were able to make different species through evolution, so evolution is real.
legendary
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November 26, 2019, 06:50:18 PM
If evolution isn't true, how do bacteria develop resistance to antibiotics? Do new genes just magically appear?

Why do we have so many different types of flu? Why is there a new strain every year?


If all you saw was the corner pocket of the pool table, you might ask how that ball got into the corner pocket. It's similar with all kinds of questions about biology and physics, and everything else.

Just because we don't know the cause and effect processes that cause bacteria to become resistant to diseases, certainly doesn't mean it's evolution. Why there are new strains of flu, has to do with adaptation and cause and effect, both of which are very complex operations.

Random has two basic meanings:
1. We don't know;
2. Pure spontaneity.
Evolution theory says that there has to be random. Which kind is it? The random of us not knowing, or something purely spontaneous in the universe? If it's us not knowing, then why say evolution has anything to do with it? Good guessing?

Everybody knows that there are tons of things that we don't know. But nobody has proof for even one spontaneous happening where something new just came about for no reason. In fact, pure spontaneity is something that doesn't even make sense in our universe.

Regarding your questions, let me add to them the question of all the forces that cause a leaf to sway in the breeze. We can't track even one molecule of air that hits the leaf. We may never be able to so track a molecule.

Your questions don't have answers because we aren't smart enough, or capable enough, yet. Evolution isn't an answer except to the ignorant. And the smart evolutionists know this.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool


BONUS: Read more at the site.



Manuka honey found to eliminate deadly drug-resistant bacteria in cystic fibrosis (CF) infections



When modern medicine can’t solve a health issue, nature often comes to the rescue. Although many people believe that the latest cutting-edge medical developments surely must outperform anything that can be found in nature given the research and money that goes into development, studies like a recent one on cystic fibrosis patients prove that nature still has a valuable place in treating illnesses.

Researchers from Swansea University found that Manuka honey can help treat antimicrobial-resistant respiratory infections, especially the deadly kind that can strike people with cystic fibrosis.

One of the biggest problems that cystic fibrosis patients face are long-lasting respiratory infections. These infections are often deadly because they contain bacteria that resists antibiotics. Although lung transplants can sometimes help in these cases, it’s not a foolproof approach as there are lots of potential side effects and the possibility of re-infection.

For some patients, the type of bacteria infecting them can damage the lungs significantly and even prevent them from being lung transplant candidates. That’s why an effective way to kill these types of bacteria is so desperately needed.

Manuka honey has been shown to kill antibiotic-resistant bacteria in surface wounds, so the researchers decided to look into using it as an alternative to antibiotics in cystic fibrosis patients.

They treated grown bacterial infections in lung tissue from pigs with Manuka honey to see how well it performed. They compared it to the action of three antibiotics sometimes used for such infections: ciprofloxacin, tobramycin, and ceftazidime.
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November 26, 2019, 04:31:20 PM
If evolution isn't true, how do bacteria develop resistance to antibiotics? Do new genes just magically appear?

Why do we have so many different types of flu? Why is there a new strain every year?
legendary
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November 23, 2019, 09:55:38 AM
If evolution were scientific, you might have some evidence for it.

I'm interested in your opinion about the manatee flipper image I posted on the last page. Is that by itself not evidence that its ancestors once walked on land?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53134470

Godwin's Law: As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving vestigial toenails approaches 1.

All by itself it might be evidence for lots of things. Mostly it is evidence that there was something like a camera to take the picture, and all the electronics that make the picture visible.

Just the picture alone doesn't provide evidence for any more than existence. The further we go into the background for the animal that is portrayed by the picture, the more we see like-begets-like. But one can twist everything around a bit to make it appear that there is evidence for evolution in it. So, it is desire to see what wants to see as evidence... not what really is evidence.

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November 23, 2019, 01:37:04 AM
If evolution were scientific, you might have some evidence for it.

I'm interested in your opinion about the manatee flipper image I posted on the last page. Is that by itself not evidence that its ancestors once walked on land?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53134470

Godwin's Law: As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving vestigial toenails approaches 1.
legendary
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November 22, 2019, 09:14:47 PM


Free thinking doesn't produce any orderly results. Freedom to walk on a railroad track when the train is coming, isn't really freedom at all. Step out of your self-induced ignorance into full realization and knowledge.


9 Scientific Facts Prove the "Theory of Evolution" is False



Many different types of dogs can be developed this way, but they can never develop a cat by selectively breeding dogs. Natural selection can never extend outside of the DNA limit. DNA cannot be changed into a new species by natural selection. The same process of selective breeding is done with flowers, fruits, and vegetables.


Sadly Darwin's great effort was based on MEMEs of the nineteenth century drawn upon a small fraction of the data available to us now.   Needless to say, specific examples are now available that show just how crude the Theory itself happens to be.

Let me make all this a lot clearer.  We are third tier matter entities fabricated and progressively improved upon by second tier matter spirit bodies that in fact provide the life of our third tier matter bodies.  Real creation and evolution actually happens in this matrix like world that floods our Galaxy and is still specific to local need.   That really means that a life form can be transitioned to a new life form  by choice from the second Tier using constructs having orders of magnitude greater information density.

All such transition is directed by choices made by your own spirit body and surely in consensus with the whole biome of spirit bodies.  This is obviously gradual because those changes have to be bred out through a sufficient population to become self sustaining.

T[h]row away the old propaganda as it keeps you in ignorance and confuses spirit and science both.


This article will prove that the Theory of Evolution fails many challenges, not simply one..

The Theory of Evolution will never become a law of science because it is wrought with errors. This is why it is still called a theory, instead of a law. The process of natural selection is not an evolutionary process.


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These are not proofs, these are claims made by someone who does not understand how life on Earth evolved.


But there isn't anyone on Earth who could understand how life evolved, since evolution is against science.

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legendary
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November 22, 2019, 07:18:34 PM

Changing your mind based on reliable evidence is a sign of intelligence, IMHO.

In the case of Popes, they are CEOs and they need to react to the changing market conditions or risk further erosion of their revenues.


Still nor proof for evolution, or are you saying that you are changing your mind.

Evolution is a hoax.

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Of course.  All the time, that is why I am a humanist, atheist and freethinker.


Free thinking doesn't produce any orderly results. Freedom to walk on a railroad track when the train is coming, isn't really freedom at all. Step out of your self-induced ignorance into full realization and knowledge.


9 Scientific Facts Prove the "Theory of Evolution" is False



Many different types of dogs can be developed this way, but they can never develop a cat by selectively breeding dogs. Natural selection can never extend outside of the DNA limit. DNA cannot be changed into a new species by natural selection. The same process of selective breeding is done with flowers, fruits, and vegetables.


Sadly Darwin's great effort was based on MEMEs of the nineteenth century drawn upon a small fraction of the data available to us now.   Needless to say, specific examples are now available that show just how crude the Theory itself happens to be.

Let me make all this a lot clearer.  We are third tier matter entities fabricated and progressively improved upon by second tier matter spirit bodies that in fact provide the life of our third tier matter bodies.  Real creation and evolution actually happens in this matrix like world that floods our Galaxy and is still specific to local need.   That really means that a life form can be transitioned to a new life form  by choice from the second Tier using constructs having orders of magnitude greater information density.

All such transition is directed by choices made by your own spirit body and surely in consensus with the whole biome of spirit bodies.  This is obviously gradual because those changes have to be bred out through a sufficient population to become self sustaining.

T[h]row away the old propaganda as it keeps you in ignorance and confuses spirit and science both.


This article will prove that the Theory of Evolution fails many challenges, not simply one..

The Theory of Evolution will never become a law of science because it is wrought with errors. This is why it is still called a theory, instead of a law. The process of natural selection is not an evolutionary process.


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legendary
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November 22, 2019, 03:37:47 PM

Changing your mind based on reliable evidence is a sign of intelligence, IMHO.

In the case of Popes, they are CEOs and they need to react to the changing market conditions or risk further erosion of their revenues.


Still nor proof for evolution, or are you saying that you are changing your mind.

Evolution is a hoax.

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legendary
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November 21, 2019, 12:03:57 PM
^^^ I know. That's all you have left.

If evolution were scientific, you might have some evidence for it. But since it isn't scientific in its own right, all you have left to promote your evolution religion is, talk in the form of political science.

Why would anyone use political science? Because political science is the science of getting what you want through any means you can, honest or dishonest, true or false, right or wrong. But if you have no other way, then talk, talk, talk. Since evolution has no science of its own, all that's left for it is political science.

Why does God leave this opening for dishonest people? Because He is hoping that they will change and become truthful... find Jesus-salvation, and be saved. The destruction of the soul is no little matter. It's a loss that is dynamically felt in the way that God would feel if He were destroyed.

But, God won the fight against destruction. He won it in Jesus, with the hopes that people would win it as well. Continual talking against God - especially in the face of proof for God - is pushing one's self towards destruction.

So, I guess if you don't change, and continue to look to believe in things false, I will have been part of your greater destruction. Greater because if you had never heard of the proof that God exists, and had never had it explained to you, and simply lived a rather hum-drum evolution-faith life, rather than adamantly believing in a direction against God, your destruction would have been much less. But now that you directly fight God, when the time comes, He will directly fight you.

You still have time. Change while you can. Start by recognizing that evolution is a complete hoax.

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Even Pope conceded that evolution and the Big Bang are real observable facts.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/pope-francis-declares-evolution-and-big-bang-theory-are-right-and-god-isnt-a-magician-with-a-magic-9822514.html

He just put a spin on it that God is behind it. LOL.

If you check through all the Papal Bulls over the whole time of the Catholic Church, you find that Popes are constantly changing their minds (or the Chrch's mind) about all kinds of things. A Pope is a person who has the right to maintain a religion of his choice for himself. And being the leader of a church, he does exactly that. This doesn't make what he says true.

Since you are stating the Pope's ideology, you must believe it to some extent. Still no proof for evolution. Only faith. Evolution is a religion.

Evolution is a hoax.

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legendary
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November 21, 2019, 09:36:37 AM
^^^ I know. That's all you have left.

If evolution were scientific, you might have some evidence for it. But since it isn't scientific in its own right, all you have left to promote your evolution religion is, talk in the form of political science.

Why would anyone use political science? Because political science is the science of getting what you want through any means you can, honest or dishonest, true or false, right or wrong. But if you have no other way, then talk, talk, talk. Since evolution has no science of its own, all that's left for it is political science.

Why does God leave this opening for dishonest people? Because He is hoping that they will change and become truthful... find Jesus-salvation, and be saved. The destruction of the soul is no little matter. It's a loss that is dynamically felt in the way that God would feel if He were destroyed.

But, God won the fight against destruction. He won it in Jesus, with the hopes that people would win it as well. Continual talking against God - especially in the face of proof for God - is pushing one's self towards destruction.

So, I guess if you don't change, and continue to look to believe in things false, I will have been part of your greater destruction. Greater because if you had never heard of the proof that God exists, and had never had it explained to you, and simply lived a rather hum-drum evolution-faith life, rather than adamantly believing in a direction against God, your destruction would have been much less. But now that you directly fight God, when the time comes, He will directly fight you.

You still have time. Change while you can. Start by recognizing that evolution is a complete hoax.

Cool
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November 21, 2019, 07:17:00 AM
You are so close, you believe almost every part of evolution except the random mutations.
The random/pseudorandom/decided by physics aspect is a technicality, it's not relevant.

It's not just that there is one positive mutation every few generations. There are loads of minor mutations all the time, most detrimental to survival, but a very few are beneficial. It is therefore these few that get selected via survival of the fittest.
legendary
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November 21, 2019, 01:19:43 AM
The mountain of evidence for evolution, fits other things better. Anybody can make up a science fiction story like evolution that might fit the evidence.
Since there is no proof for evolution, all we can say is maybe. But since the evidence fits God-creation better, the "maybe" dwindles to nothing.

The evidence for evolution is just that - evidence for evolution. Fossil records. Radiocarbon dating. You can for example trace the evolution of legs in animals, from long-ago primitive proto-limbs that allowed animals to scrabble about a bit, to the powerful limbs today, adapted for strength (elephants) or speed (cheetahs) etc. You can even see human-directed evolution, such as dog breeds, or how our modern fruit and vegetables can differ wildly from their 'natural' ancestors. You can see it in how you look similar to your parents and siblings, how you look less similar (but still fairly similar) to your cousins, how you look very different to strangers.
It's literally everywhere, both in the past and here right now.

'God' I still contend is just a word for the science that people either don't understand or aren't willing to accept.


Here is a manatee flipper. Manatees live in the sea. The flipper has toenails, it has hairs, it looks very much like an elephant's foot. This is because manatees and elephants share a common ancestor, about 50 million years ago.

https://wp-assets.futurism.com/2013/11/Trichechus_manatus_fg01.jpg

Evolution is everywhere!

All these things you talk about, have no proof that they are evolution. So far we don't have a clue that they are evolution. But we absolutely DO know that they might be some form of simple change some of the time. And we have all kinds of non-evolution adaptation. And we are loaded with examples - essentially the whole world - of like begetting like.

Everything you say fits one of these three without fitting evolution. However, if anybody is unsure, all he has to do is see that there are countless forms of cause and effect, but absolutely no known form of spontaneous, pure random. C&E is programming. There is no way to program the complexity of life without a highly intelligent programmer. And the intelligence that formed life working the way it does on Earth, fits our definition of God.

Evolution is a half-wit hoax.

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November 21, 2019, 01:07:50 AM
I believe that evolution is a hoax. Not all things can be explained by science. We are created by God and no one else. If we are from monkeys or gorilla or any other animals as like the scientists said, then who created these animals? Isn't it our God?

We aren't descended from gorillas, we aren't descended from modern-day animals. We have a common ancestor with gorillas. Everything is evolving, all the time. Humans are evolving. Gorillas are evolving. The creature that both humans and gorillas evolved from no longer exists. If you could trace my family tree back for hundreds of thousands of years, and you could do the same with a gorilla, you'd reach a point where our ancestors are the same species.

If you trace my family tree back through however many millions of years, my great-times-whatever-grandfather is a fish. So is yours. It sounds absurd because we humans have no concept of the truly vast timescales involved.

Who created the first animal? Chemistry did. Simple organic molecules combining in some water somewhere. Scientists have recreated RNA generation in the lab, as I've linked to previously. Evolution is awe-inspiring. Have a read on how multi-cellular life evolved.

Evolution is real.

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November 21, 2019, 12:21:07 AM
The mountain of evidence for evolution, fits other things better. Anybody can make up a science fiction story like evolution that might fit the evidence.
Since there is no proof for evolution, all we can say is maybe. But since the evidence fits God-creation better, the "maybe" dwindles to nothing.

The evidence for evolution is just that - evidence for evolution. Fossil records. Radiocarbon dating. You can for example trace the evolution of legs in animals, from long-ago primitive proto-limbs that allowed animals to scrabble about a bit, to the powerful limbs today, adapted for strength (elephants) or speed (cheetahs) etc. You can even see human-directed evolution, such as dog breeds, or how our modern fruit and vegetables can differ wildly from their 'natural' ancestors. You can see it in how you look similar to your parents and siblings, how you look less similar (but still fairly similar) to your cousins, how you look very different to strangers.
It's literally everywhere, both in the past and here right now.

'God' I still contend is just a word for the science that people either don't understand or aren't willing to accept.


Here is a manatee flipper. Manatees live in the sea. The flipper has toenails, it has hairs, it looks very much like an elephant's foot. This is because manatees and elephants share a common ancestor, about 50 million years ago.



Evolution is everywhere!
legendary
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November 20, 2019, 06:47:45 PM

I and others have answered. But, just for you, one more time.

God is love. But the kind of love He is, is perfect love. Scientifically or other, nobody understands it. So, nobody knows what God is. We could add things like Father, Creator, Eternal Life... and if you look it up via an Internet search, you can find all kinds of other things that God is. What more do you need?

Are you hiring someone to do your own Net search for you?

How do you know emotions don't start universes? Yours might simply be too weak.

God has no beginning or end. God doesn't have a creator.

If this isn't satisfactory for you, you will need to explain your questions in better detail. And you can do it, because God loves your soul.

Btw, you still haven't shown any proof for evolution. Evolution is a hoax.

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If nobody knows what God is, why are you saying that God is love?

If nobody knows what God is, then why are you believing in something that you cannot even define.

Do you see a problem with your position?  You think you believe in something called God but you don't know what it is.

It is funny that people assign names to things they cannot even describe.  Linguistic failure.

BTW, if God is love, then this God of yours only exists in human brains.  That is where human emotions reside.

Scientifically speaking, nobody really knows what love is.

Defining something doesn't have anything to do with knowing it exists, or believing attributes about it.

Science and the Bible show that God exists. So, I believe the things God says through His Word.

It's funny that some people want to deny the existence of some things that they can't explain. Do you deny the existence of gravity? Welcome to notbatman's world.

Love isn't only emotion in humans. God's love is proven in that He gave up His only Son, Jesus, into death to save as many of the rest of us as are willing to believe.

Why do you enjoy being off-topic all the time? God's love never evolved. It always existed.

Evolution is a hoax.

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legendary
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November 20, 2019, 04:14:35 PM
I believe that evolution is a hoax. Not all things can be explained by science. We are created by God and no one else. If we are from monkeys or gorilla or any other animals as like the scientists said, then who created these animals? Isn't it our God?

What is God and how was it created?

Is this a test? You keep on asking it after people keep on answering you. Maybe you should start a thread. Maybe you should go the PM route.

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Maybe you should buy a clue and answer the question. Instead of saying it is 'love'.

Emotions don't start universes.

I and others have answered. But, just for you, one more time.

God is love. But the kind of love He is, is perfect love. Scientifically or other, nobody understands it. So, nobody knows what God is. We could add things like Father, Creator, Eternal Life... and if you look it up via an Internet search, you can find all kinds of other things that God is. What more do you need?

Are you hiring someone to do your own Net search for you?

How do you know emotions don't start universes? Yours might simply be too weak.

God has no beginning or end. God doesn't have a creator.

If this isn't satisfactory for you, you will need to explain your questions in better detail. And you can do it, because God loves your soul.

Btw, you still haven't shown any proof for evolution. Evolution is a hoax.

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November 19, 2019, 10:11:26 PM
Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0gFarCfBE

It's a hoax, there was no definite evidence to prove such. It remains a theory at all.
legendary
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November 19, 2019, 09:21:52 PM
I believe that evolution is a hoax. Not all things can be explained by science. We are created by God and no one else. If we are from monkeys or gorilla or any other animals as like the scientists said, then who created these animals? Isn't it our God?

What is God and how was it created?

Is this a test? You keep on asking it after people keep on answering you. Maybe you should start a thread. Maybe you should go the PM route.

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November 19, 2019, 07:26:08 PM
I believe that evolution is a hoax. Not all things can be explained by science. We are created by God and no one else. If we are from monkeys or gorilla or any other animals as like the scientists said, then who created these animals? Isn't it our God?
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