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Just another Dennis the Menace time. Schroder deserves to be the Tissot MVP for this FIBA world cup finals. A lot of history has been made for this FIBA world cup. Another one is with Canada by their very first title for the FIBA world cup. Going back to Dennis, could this have an impact to his potential offers in the NBA? Possible right but he has already signed with the Raptors right for this upcoming season?
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Dennis Schroder - Tissot FIBA 2023 MVP

He deserved this; he can really be trusted. He was their best player, and he didn't fail the team in the Finals game. It's the great interior defense of Germany that made the Serbians focus their offense outside, and when the shots aren't falling, it's easy for Germany to capitalize on it. I was a bit happy with Serbia's run; they were able to trim the lead of Germany to 3 points only in the 4th quarter. But Germany did not panic; they remained composed and were really eager to bring home the trophy.

Franz Wagner was instrumental to the success of Germany.

Well, what can I say? Schroder literally deserved the award as he was a team player and not just a star player who cannot make an impact to make a positive outcome from the games they had and even up to this point, he didn't made huge mistakes to make the team suffer.

In fact, he was the one who helped the team to remain their composure because they know the Serbian's weakness and made those weaknesses as their strength. So in the end, Germany took home the gold. What a nice game to end the night, congratulations to all bettors out there who wagered with Germany.
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Germany definitely deserved it more. They played very well, Serbia had a little extra push on the last quarter but it wasn't enough, they couldn't handle the end of the game. Its definitely a shocking result, I never expected Germany to be the world champion, that isn't regarding just USA, they may end up losing and that happens sometimes and that's understandable but that doesn't mean that other teams would make sense, there were many other good teams that could have won it, including Serbia. Canada also beat USA on the third place game as well, USA definitely needs to bring in much better players they have and need to convince them somehow, this isn't working for the past two tournaments.
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What an epic final between Germany and Serbia. Germany ends as only team undefeated in whole tournament. In final game they showed that they have elite defence too. They stopped Bogdanovic that he wasn't even on court on decidive minutes. They let Serbia to score just 10 points in 3rd quarter. Schroder, Wagner bros, what a team. Serbia was close, but sometimes it looked that they lose head and rush too much. And how Guduric should feel now - missed open 3 pointer, then he was so close from making 2+1 and he makes turnover in another crucial attack. Feel sorry for him. Congrats to Germany, very well deserved.


What to say about 3rd place game. 3 quarters it looked like awful regular season game, but 4th quarter was awesome. Bridges moment was one of epic things in international basketball. Missed free throw, takes rebound and makes buzzer beater. But in general Canada were better and proved it overtime and it's first World Cup medal for them.
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Dennis Schroder - Tissot FIBA 2023 MVP

He deserved this; he can really be trusted. He was their best player, and he didn't fail the team in the Finals game. It's the great interior defense of Germany that made the Serbians focus their offense outside, and when the shots aren't falling, it's easy for Germany to capitalize on it. I was a bit happy with Serbia's run; they were able to trim the lead of Germany to 3 points only in the 4th quarter. But Germany did not panic; they remained composed and were really eager to bring home the trophy.

Franz Wagner was instrumental to the success of Germany.
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the game is quite tight. game fixing, hmm. we won't really know if this actually is happening even on this event.  the odds are like 50-50. at least we are watching a very nice game from both teams.
germans are watching this final game as they have nationwide broadcast of this game. so i don't think they will deal with fixing here. and for sure, serbians are also glued on their screens right now.
This is a professional league so I doubt about game fixing, as we can see Germany is doing their best to get their first championship and with this let's give them the benefit of their hard work. They are both eager to get the win and tonight, the way they are playing right now I believe this is the time for Germany to shine though of course there's still time for Serbia to rise as well. Anyway, I'm quiet shock about the result of the game between USA and Canada, it looks like USA losses their composure after losing to Germany, too bad I lose my bet again with USA.  Cheesy

There’s match fixing even on professional league but I doubt too that there’s a match fixing on game that they represent country while this tournament is not yearly to happened. Germany is  such so good during the crucial times specially on protecting their lead to close their game. Germany did the same against USA during the semi fnals match.

Dennis schroder is very good on this world cup. He is the most valuable player for me since he play a lot of crucial role on all their run just to maintain the lead. This is the most balance world cup I ever see though since the expected dominant team doesn't finish as predicted by many.
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And Germany conquered the FIBA Basketball Tournament 2023. All respect for their hard work, the greatness of their talents, and the will to win everything. Congratulations to them and to every German who makes them proud. Schroder was damn fast. Cheesy

Serbia on the other hand, I saw no panic with them until the last 2 minutes of the 4th quarter. That's where a lot of mistakes happened. Bogdan made a good steal and I thought that would be the one-stop that could get them so near against Germany but the play didn't go in. Then, the supposed to be 3-point play layup, that's when I saw panic in Serbia after that was the bad pass.

But all in all, I love how these guys put all their heart into the game. Those tears are the proof of that. They won't cry if this doesn't mean everything to them. I love the competitive spirit and I love how close the game is that Serbia made me think they can really win that game. They even made me cheer for them in the end.  Cheesy

Dennis Schroder - Tissot FIBA 2023 MVP
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I doubt there is a game fixing in the battle for the bronze. At the very least, it could be that some American players aren't that interested in the 3rd place and will lose the fire in them. But I am pretty sure that their coach Steve Kerr wants to win the 3rd place. This is a challenge to him and he will do everything to enlighten his team in getting a win. The same with Canada, they want this 3rd place and then come back stronger next year in the Paris Olympics with their experience.

Less than an hour already before it starts. I actually have ML bets on Canada and Serbia.

We can't be sure whether they did it or not but we don't know what happened behind the scenes we know that USA is always the champion so it's a bit strange if they are fighting for 3rd/4th place imo. Regardless of our opinion, we should just wait and see how this ends this match will start in a few minutes and I will ignore it by not placing a bet, our focus is on Quarter 1 and Quarter 2 if USA points are less than 50 points in the first half then it could be suspected  Cheesy

But it's not what happened a few hours ago because I think most of us here witnessed how close and tight their scores are, so I think that we can already ease ourselves by thinking that there is a chance of a game fixing in FIBA games mainly in this phase. Doesn't matter what I think because that's not important at this point because we already saw how the game goes and ended fair and square.

the game is quite tight. game fixing, hmm. we won't really know if this actually is happening even on this event.  the odds are like 50-50. at least we are watching a very nice game from both teams.
germans are watching this final game as they have nationwide broadcast of this game. so i don't think they will deal with fixing here. and for sure, serbians are also glued on their screens right now.

Nah! I don't think that there is a game fixing in this kind of competition, I mean sure there are some chances but that is only doable in small leagues where they can get away without some smoke and certainly not the ones like FIBA that are watched around the world round now.

And for some latest updates, Germany has done it! They are the FIBA champions and the Gold medalist (GER 83-77 SER), it was a tough game for sure because the Serbians didn't cut them some slack but they still made it to the end.
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the game is quite tight. game fixing, hmm. we won't really know if this actually is happening even on this event.  the odds are like 50-50. at least we are watching a very nice game from both teams.
germans are watching this final game as they have nationwide broadcast of this game. so i don't think they will deal with fixing here. and for sure, serbians are also glued on their screens right now.
This is a professional league so I doubt about game fixing, as we can see Germany is doing their best to get their first championship and with this let's give them the benefit of their hard work. They are both eager to get the win and tonight, the way they are playing right now I believe this is the time for Germany to shine though of course there's still time for Serbia to rise as well. Anyway, I'm quiet shock about the result of the game between USA and Canada, it looks like USA losses their composure after losing to Germany, too bad I lose my bet again with USA.  Cheesy
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I doubt there is a game fixing in the battle for the bronze. At the very least, it could be that some American players aren't that interested in the 3rd place and will lose the fire in them. But I am pretty sure that their coach Steve Kerr wants to win the 3rd place. This is a challenge to him and he will do everything to enlighten his team in getting a win. The same with Canada, they want this 3rd place and then come back stronger next year in the Paris Olympics with their experience.

Less than an hour already before it starts. I actually have ML bets on Canada and Serbia.

We can't be sure whether they did it or not but we don't know what happened behind the scenes we know that USA is always the champion so it's a bit strange if they are fighting for 3rd/4th place imo. Regardless of our opinion, we should just wait and see how this ends this match will start in a few minutes and I will ignore it by not placing a bet, our focus is on Quarter 1 and Quarter 2 if USA points are less than 50 points in the first half then it could be suspected  Cheesy

But it's not what happened a few hours ago because I think most of us here witnessed how close and tight their scores are, so I think that we can already ease ourselves by thinking that there is a chance of a game fixing in FIBA games mainly in this phase. Doesn't matter what I think because that's not important at this point because we already saw how the game goes and ended fair and square.

the game is quite tight. game fixing, hmm. we won't really know if this actually is happening even on this event.  the odds are like 50-50. at least we are watching a very nice game from both teams.
germans are watching this final game as they have nationwide broadcast of this game. so i don't think they will deal with fixing here. and for sure, serbians are also glued on their screens right now.
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What team are you rooting for? Are you supporting Germany? Smiley
I was rooting for Germany but some members made a decent argument that Serbia has a high chance if they could lock down Dennis. We know they're one of the best defensive teams in this tournament.
Germany is composed of good 3-point shooters. If Serbia wants to lock down Schröder, that means they will focus their defense on him, probably putting two defenders on him. However, the risk is that it will open up opportunities for the shooters, who won't hesitate to take their shots. There has been a slight odds movement, and I believe the reason is that bettors are slightly shifting toward Germany. If I recall correctly, when the line opened, Serbia was the slight favorite, but now it's in favor of Germany.

Still, it's hard to predict because both teams have equal skills. It's now about how well their coaches can devise a game plan and make adjustments during the game. These four-quarter games should never be boring; one team might have a big run, but I'm sure the other will come back.

This is going to be interesting, just a few minutes to go before the Finals clash between Germany and Serbia. In my sports bookies, the line changed again in just a matter of minutes before the game commences and Serbia is now the favorite.

It seems to me that the crowd is divided here as some are saying that Serbia got an upper hand because even if most of their players aren't from NBA, they can't still be underestimated as they managed to get in this position and being a defensive team is not easy to oppose. But I'd say, Germany is the same too, if they focus too much on Dennis, it will be their loss because the other players in the same roster cannot be left unguarded.

So far, it's a close game. The first half has ended with a tied score of 47 all. It has been proven that Dennis cannot be stopped; Serbia may have done a great job on him in the first quarter, but Dennis adjusted in the 2nd quarter.

As of now, both teams' NBA stars are the top performers.

Schröder has 14 points, while Bogdanović has 15 points. I'm sure there will be more adjustments in the 2nd half, but in terms of the flow of offense, I see that Germany has the better one. They limit their 3-point shooting and instead are aggressive in attacking the paint, giving them more free-throw attempts compared to Serbia. By the way, Franz Wagner is also doing great; he attacks the paint well and is tied with Dennis in terms of points.
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I doubt there is a game fixing in the battle for the bronze. At the very least, it could be that some American players aren't that interested in the 3rd place and will lose the fire in them. But I am pretty sure that their coach Steve Kerr wants to win the 3rd place. This is a challenge to him and he will do everything to enlighten his team in getting a win. The same with Canada, they want this 3rd place and then come back stronger next year in the Paris Olympics with their experience.

Less than an hour already before it starts. I actually have ML bets on Canada and Serbia.

We can't be sure whether they did it or not but we don't know what happened behind the scenes we know that USA is always the champion so it's a bit strange if they are fighting for 3rd/4th place imo. Regardless of our opinion, we should just wait and see how this ends this match will start in a few minutes and I will ignore it by not placing a bet, our focus is on Quarter 1 and Quarter 2 if USA points are less than 50 points in the first half then it could be suspected  Cheesy

But it's not what happened a few hours ago because I think most of us here witnessed how close and tight their scores are, so I think that we can already ease ourselves by thinking that there is a chance of a game fixing in FIBA games mainly in this phase. Doesn't matter what I think because that's not important at this point because we already saw how the game goes and ended fair and square.
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What team are you rooting for? Are you supporting Germany? Smiley
I was rooting for Germany but some members made a decent argument that Serbia has a high chance if they could lock down Dennis. We know they're one of the best defensive teams in this tournament.
Germany is composed of good 3-point shooters. If Serbia wants to lock down Schröder, that means they will focus their defense on him, probably putting two defenders on him. However, the risk is that it will open up opportunities for the shooters, who won't hesitate to take their shots. There has been a slight odds movement, and I believe the reason is that bettors are slightly shifting toward Germany. If I recall correctly, when the line opened, Serbia was the slight favorite, but now it's in favor of Germany.

Still, it's hard to predict because both teams have equal skills. It's now about how well their coaches can devise a game plan and make adjustments during the game. These four-quarter games should never be boring; one team might have a big run, but I'm sure the other will come back.

This is going to be interesting, just a few minutes to go before the Finals clash between Germany and Serbia. In my sports bookies, the line changed again in just a matter of minutes before the game commences and Serbia is now the favorite.

It seems to me that the crowd is divided here as some are saying that Serbia got an upper hand because even if most of their players aren't from NBA, they can't still be underestimated as they managed to get in this position and being a defensive team is not easy to oppose. But I'd say, Germany is the same too, if they focus too much on Dennis, it will be their loss because the other players in the same roster cannot be left unguarded.
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What team are you rooting for? Are you supporting Germany? Smiley
I was rooting for Germany but some members made a decent argument that Serbia has a high chance if they could lock down Dennis. We know they're one of the best defensive teams in this tournament.
Germany is composed of good 3-point shooters. If Serbia wants to lock down Schröder, that means they will focus their defense on him, probably putting two defenders on him. However, the risk is that it will open up opportunities for the shooters, who won't hesitate to take their shots. There has been a slight odds movement, and I believe the reason is that bettors are slightly shifting toward Germany. If I recall correctly, when the line opened, Serbia was the slight favorite, but now it's in favor of Germany.

Still, it's hard to predict because both teams have equal skills. It's now about how well their coaches can devise a game plan and make adjustments during the game. These four-quarter games should never be boring; one team might have a big run, but I'm sure the other will come back.
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The team that forces OT by some miracle ( I think 4 point comeback with 5 seconds to go qualifies for a small mircale) often take the momentum into OT and wins the game.
If there's an award for being the shot of the tournament then that should be up there. There was luck involve but his awareness to collect his own miss and make the game-tying shot was just amazing to watch.

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What team are you rooting for? Are you supporting Germany? Smiley
I was rooting for Germany but some members made a decent argument that Serbia has a high chance if they could lock down Dennis. We know they're one of the best defensive teams in this tournament.
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Good money on Canada - the 3:1 underdog was just too good to pass up hehe. The match was still intense as I've anticipated since both teams have a lot of NBA players and there's the bragging rights to whoever comes out on top.

That was an insane play by Mikal Bridges which sent the game to OT. I thought they were going to complete the comeback since they have momentum.

Yeah that's normally how it goes. The team that forces OT by some miracle ( I think 4 point comeback with 5 seconds to go qualifies for a small mircale) often take the momentum into OT and wins the game.

Glad they didn't and Shai took over with a strong start in OT to seal the deal.

D.Brooks with a big game, I guess he feels like an allstar now. He called himself the best defender in the world some days ago, maybe now he is the best on offense as well.  Grin

1 more hour until the final game, heart beat is getting faster. Finally German TV also decided to show the world cup, haha. They ignored the tournament the whole 2 weeks.  Cry
This doesn't change anything for me though, we will watch it on Japanese TV.  Wink

What team are you rooting for? Are you supporting Germany? Smiley

For me, this game is going to go down to the wire. Both teams are not in a familiar place as they have not reached the Finals before, if I'm not mistaken, so they will both be eager to win. While the Canada vs. USA game was high-scoring, I expect this one to be the opposite, as defense will definitely be the priority here.

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Less than an hour already before it starts. I actually have ML bets on Canada and Serbia.

Congrats on your win on Canada bro, that's awesome. Team USA almost catch-up but they fell short. On the Final's game, i have in my mind on betting for Germany but upon seeing your post, I changed my mind and bet for Serbia hehe hope I won't be the reason why Serbia lost this game if ever. Odds are almost even so this is just a guessing game for us whose teams got eliminated early hehe.
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Good money on Canada - the 3:1 underdog was just too good to pass up hehe. The match was still intense as I've anticipated since both teams have a lot of NBA players and there's the bragging rights to whoever comes out on top.

That was an insane play by Mikal Bridges which sent the game to OT. I thought they were going to complete the comeback since they have momentum.

Yeah that's normally how it goes. The team that forces OT by some miracle ( I think 4 point comeback with 5 seconds to go qualifies for a small mircale) often take the momentum into OT and wins the game.

Glad they didn't and Shai took over with a strong start in OT to seal the deal.

D.Brooks with a big game, I guess he feels like an allstar now. He called himself the best defender in the world some days ago, maybe now he is the best on offense as well.  Grin

1 more hour until the final game, heart beat is getting faster. Finally German TV also decided to show the world cup, haha. They ignored the tournament the whole 2 weeks.  Cry
This doesn't change anything for me though, we will watch it on Japanese TV.  Wink
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Good money on Canada - the 3:1 underdog was just too good to pass up hehe. The match was still intense as I've anticipated since both teams have a lot of NBA players and there's the bragging rights to whoever comes out on top.

That was an insane play by Mikal Bridges which sent the game to OT. I thought they were going to complete the comeback since they have momentum.
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The USA didn't play well against Canada. The third quarter is over, and Canada is leading by 9 points. We know that the USA won't give up, but they are in a precarious situation. Hopefully, they will be able to come back so I won't lose my bet on the moneyline. I'm also placing an extra bet on the USA moneyline with 3.40 odds. Good luck!
A few minutes have passed and the USA managed to tie the game...
I confess that I also bet on the US team, well, I believe if they maintain this performance, probably they will beat Canada (I hope so)
The last shot by Mikal Bridges brought the game to overtime. Unfortunately, the USA struggled in the extra period, and it appears they won't be getting the Bronze. It was the worst performance by the USA, and they need to be evaluated to prevent such occurrences in the future. I would like to congratulate Canada; they performed well tonight and beat the USA. Another seemed to be unsportsmanlike foul was called on Portis before the game ended; they were clearly frustrated.

There is a lot of work for them to do in the near future, but to be honest I think Canada and Germany have played very well against them with an extremely good hit rate from all distances.
The USA had big comebacks in the 4th quarter in both games but still ended up losing in the end. Against Germany, they only lost by 2 points, while against Canada, they had a chance to win in overtime after an unbelievable shot from Bridges. It's just that their execution wasn't consistent.

I was wondering if the score is normal like that. In four quarters scoring 111:111 for the two teams before overtime started, isn't that a hell lot of points?  Each quarter is just 10 minutes and this is a score average that I thought would be way above of what is normally to be expected.
They are playing at a high pace, and their three-point shooting percentage is high. Canada was able to keep up with the USA as their starters are also from the NBA, so the NBA system was used; it's just that Canada played better than the USA. By the way, Brooks scored 39 points; that's how valuable he is, and I think the Rockets weren't wrong in signing him to a decent contract.

But USA was the big favorite and I think they had a hard time to motivate themselves to play for 3rd as good as they would play as if it was for the title. This was a disappointing tournament for them.
They can't even win the Bronze; they need to carefully study what's wrong and make sure to correct it for the Olympics. They can't afford to let what happened here occur again. They used to dominate this competition, but now they are just a big hype.
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