Topic: FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams. (Read 1751 times)
Banning Russia from international sports competition doesn't really mean anything. Why not? Russia is in international sports competition with the war. Why would they even want to play games?
Russians are also suffering from what they did and what they are doing, a lot of countries and organizations has banned Russia from from having affairs with them. Because of the war they are fighting against Ukraine. The funniest part is that Russians are not ready to put a stop to the war despite what they are losing day by day. Russians would face a lot of difficulties when they try to go out or have business with other country, because almost everyone has seen them as bad side.
It is difficult to go against the current, when there is an almost "World" government where other countries are complicit in its actions, it is very difficult and it is obvious that there are always political systems and they have a great influence regardless of where they come from. , if you are against them then you have no choice, as I said before I am against any war, but it is remarkable to think that the athletes did not ask their opinion about the invasion because I am sure that their response would be a resounding No, the mistake is to think that the sanctions are going to hurt the rulers, because the sanctions are received by people who have nothing to do with it, so until that is understood it will be very difficult for the world to be different.
Let FIFA and UEFA move their headquarters into Russia, and see if anything changes.
You don't need to be popular in the eyes of the world to hold a competition. Russia has all kinds of sports going on within its borders. The only reason we might not know about it is that the media is simply against Russia, right now, and won't show it.
It is difficult to go against the current, when there is an almost "World" government where other countries are complicit in its actions, it is very difficult and it is obvious that there are always political systems and they have a great influence regardless of where they come from. , if you are against them then you have no choice, as I said before I am against any war, but it is remarkable to think that the athletes did not ask their opinion about the invasion because I am sure that their response would be a resounding No, the mistake is to think that the sanctions are going to hurt the rulers, because the sanctions are received by people who have nothing to do with it, so until that is understood it will be very difficult for the world to be different.
Russia made a completely unjustified invasion of a sovereign country like Ukraine on baseless accusations,it is only normal that they will be a completely isolated state and isolated not only from sport but from economy,technology and everything else.
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OK.. agreed. Russia's invasion of Ukraine is not justified and they need to be punished for their actions. But now please tell me what sort of actions were taken against the United States, after they invaded almost a dozen sovereign nations (Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya.etc) during the last two decades? Perhaps these invasions are "good" invasions and only the Russian invasions are "bad"? The law needs to be equal for everyone and we will be making a mistake if we give different treatment for different sides doing the same thing.
Only the Iraq invasion was wrong and the US apologized for it although that means nothing after many innocent civilians were killed.The difference with Russia though is that US was only there to find the chemical weapons and once they didn't find them they immediately withdrew their troops,not claiming any territory of the country.They tried their best to not kill 5 months old babies like Russia is doing on a daily basis and they did not shoot down entire cities to ashes like Russia is doing.It is clear who the terrorist country is who live in their absurd reality,only Russia and it is normal to ban every single Russian,athlete,team,singer,actor and any person of any category to take place in International competitions.
Russia made a completely unjustified invasion of a sovereign country like Ukraine on baseless accusations,it is only normal that they will be a completely isolated state and isolated not only from sport but from economy,technology and everything else.
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OK.. agreed. Russia's invasion of Ukraine is not justified and they need to be punished for their actions. But now please tell me what sort of actions were taken against the United States, after they invaded almost a dozen sovereign nations (Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya.etc) during the last two decades? Perhaps these invasions are "good" invasions and only the Russian invasions are "bad"? The law needs to be equal for everyone and we will be making a mistake if we give different treatment for different sides doing the same thing.
Isn't your question an obvious offtopic and whataboutism? In addition, maybe you will remind what territories the United States captured during these wars? While Russia is constantly stealing everything it can from its neighbors - Moldova, Georgia, Ukraine. The fact that the world is not isolating itself from the US is probably a sign that it agrees with their actions (and you forget that in most of these wars the US had many allies who fought alongside them).
Russia made a completely unjustified invasion of a sovereign country like Ukraine on baseless accusations,it is only normal that they will be a completely isolated state and isolated not only from sport but from economy,technology and everything else.
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OK.. agreed. Russia's invasion of Ukraine is not justified and they need to be punished for their actions. But now please tell me what sort of actions were taken against the United States, after they invaded almost a dozen sovereign nations (Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya.etc) during the last two decades? Perhaps these invasions are "good" invasions and only the Russian invasions are "bad"? The law needs to be equal for everyone and we will be making a mistake if we give different treatment for different sides doing the same thing.
The war makes no sense, hurts both people I agree and its only going to benefit a few for money reasons is the main incentive I think. Money and power and the only way to try and prevent further deaths and a war lasting years is constant discouragement which means these people in sport are losing out but its not without reason they make a sacrifice that in some small part contributes to the pressure to stop this pointless war. I hope this occurs soon, its a loss for all at present.
This topic has seemed very interesting to me, because there is something that should be highlighted, the Russian athletes, specifically the soccer players have very good technique, they have improved it remarkably over the years, and although it is not a style as defined as the Germans, Brazilians, I think they were on a very good path despite the whole system of government by which they live. I always like to recognize people's efforts, and I see that Russian soccer players shouldn't stop playing, I don't know if the solution is for them to be nationalized with other countries, but it is preferable so that they don't lose that talent to offer it to the world and At the same time, do not let all the effort that has been made since childhood be wasted.
But the sanctioners didn't think that way, they tried to get Vladimir Putin to stop the war in a way that made it seem as if all Russians were guilty of the invasion of Ukraine.
It's also sad to see a situation like this that brings political affairs into the realm of sport.
Seeing how things are going and the statements of those who are living in Russia or have relatives living in this situation, if it makes me sad, because they are killing a style of football that had been growing, I am sure that in Russia as in Ukraine There are many promises of football that can give us pleasant moments, but with this war, their future has been truncated, it may be that in order to save themselves, some players will be required to renounce their nationality, some Ukrainian players, the safest thing is that they have lost part of their relatives, and this is something very sad, somehow the war has ended the most beautiful sport in the world.
The suspension of Ukrainian football, is very unfortunate and will definitely harm the Ukrainian national team, because there are so many talented players in Ukraine who are playing in Europe, if the country continues to suspend the Russian football team, they are slowly killing the talent of the Russian players and clubs, because can no longer play in European competitions, I hope that FIFA and UEFA immediately lift the suspension, sport is an athlete to unite the nation.Do you think FIFA and UEFA will lift the ban and allow Russians to participate in big tournaments only because they care about the Russian athletes? Everything is happening about the agenda proposed by the US and they will be happy to keep Russians out of the sports too.
We usually say that politics and sports should remain separate but how often do we see that politics has a great influence on sports.
Russia made a completely unjustified invasion of a sovereign country like Ukraine on baseless accusations,it is only normal that they will be a completely isolated state and isolated not only from sport but from economy,technology and everything else.If they don't come to their sense and continue to be absurd and delusional living in their imaginary kingdom where only them are the good guys and all the whole world are bad then this is not going to change.With the passing of years they will stay behind in every major field of life,the only true persons which are suffering already the consequences are the civilians but their government does not care much.
The Russian government made the decision to attack Ukraine but this does not mean that every civilian is agree with this act of terrorism. I am sure none of the Russian football players wanted this war and hence now they are facing the ban and other consequences.
I wish this war come to a peaceful conclusion and everything is back to normal.
Seeing how things are going and the statements of those who are living in Russia or have relatives living in this situation, if it makes me sad, because they are killing a style of football that had been growing, I am sure that in Russia as in Ukraine There are many promises of football that can give us pleasant moments, but with this war, their future has been truncated, it may be that in order to save themselves, some players will be required to renounce their nationality, some Ukrainian players, the safest thing is that they have lost part of their relatives, and this is something very sad, somehow the war has ended the most beautiful sport in the world.
The suspension of Ukrainian football, is very unfortunate and will definitely harm the Ukrainian national team, because there are so many talented players in Ukraine who are playing in Europe, if the country continues to suspend the Russian football team, they are slowly killing the talent of the Russian players and clubs, because can no longer play in European competitions, I hope that FIFA and UEFA immediately lift the suspension, sport is an athlete to unite the nation.Do you think FIFA and UEFA will lift the ban and allow Russians to participate in big tournaments only because they care about the Russian athletes? Everything is happening about the agenda proposed by the US and they will be happy to keep Russians out of the sports too.
We usually say that politics and sports should remain separate but how often do we see that politics has a great influence on sports.
Russia made a completely unjustified invasion of a sovereign country like Ukraine on baseless accusations,it is only normal that they will be a completely isolated state and isolated not only from sport but from economy,technology and everything else.If they don't come to their sense and continue to be absurd and delusional living in their imaginary kingdom where only them are the good guys and all the whole world are bad then this is not going to change.With the passing of years they will stay behind in every major field of life,the only true persons which are suffering already the consequences are the civilians but their government does not care much.
all possible field that they could really be dealing with.Its all been affected and there's no such thing we could do but do abide on what the majority is really taking action off. We wont really see any changes
until this war would stop and hopefully we would really be seeing for it to happen and completely stop the suffering of those innocent people who had been caught with this crisis which i dont see for it to be
that beneficial in both sides.
Seeing how things are going and the statements of those who are living in Russia or have relatives living in this situation, if it makes me sad, because they are killing a style of football that had been growing, I am sure that in Russia as in Ukraine There are many promises of football that can give us pleasant moments, but with this war, their future has been truncated, it may be that in order to save themselves, some players will be required to renounce their nationality, some Ukrainian players, the safest thing is that they have lost part of their relatives, and this is something very sad, somehow the war has ended the most beautiful sport in the world.
The suspension of Ukrainian football, is very unfortunate and will definitely harm the Ukrainian national team, because there are so many talented players in Ukraine who are playing in Europe, if the country continues to suspend the Russian football team, they are slowly killing the talent of the Russian players and clubs, because can no longer play in European competitions, I hope that FIFA and UEFA immediately lift the suspension, sport is an athlete to unite the nation.Do you think FIFA and UEFA will lift the ban and allow Russians to participate in big tournaments only because they care about the Russian athletes? Everything is happening about the agenda proposed by the US and they will be happy to keep Russians out of the sports too.
We usually say that politics and sports should remain separate but how often do we see that politics has a great influence on sports.
Russia made a completely unjustified invasion of a sovereign country like Ukraine on baseless accusations,it is only normal that they will be a completely isolated state and isolated not only from sport but from economy,technology and everything else.If they don't come to their sense and continue to be absurd and delusional living in their imaginary kingdom where only them are the good guys and all the whole world are bad then this is not going to change.With the passing of years they will stay behind in every major field of life,the only true persons which are suffering already the consequences are the civilians but their government does not care much.
Seeing how things are going and the statements of those who are living in Russia or have relatives living in this situation, if it makes me sad, because they are killing a style of football that had been growing, I am sure that in Russia as in Ukraine There are many promises of football that can give us pleasant moments, but with this war, their future has been truncated, it may be that in order to save themselves, some players will be required to renounce their nationality, some Ukrainian players, the safest thing is that they have lost part of their relatives, and this is something very sad, somehow the war has ended the most beautiful sport in the world.
The suspension of Ukrainian football, is very unfortunate and will definitely harm the Ukrainian national team, because there are so many talented players in Ukraine who are playing in Europe, if the country continues to suspend the Russian football team, they are slowly killing the talent of the Russian players and clubs, because can no longer play in European competitions, I hope that FIFA and UEFA immediately lift the suspension, sport is an athlete to unite the nation.Do you think FIFA and UEFA will lift the ban and allow Russians to participate in big tournaments only because they care about the Russian athletes? Everything is happening about the agenda proposed by the US and they will be happy to keep Russians out of the sports too.
We usually say that politics and sports should remain separate but how often do we see that politics has a great influence on sports.
So much has been lost to this on going Russia, Ukraine invasion. Russia could have made this game beautiful and inturn benefit a lot lot getting to host the UCL finals, generate revenue from tourism and ticket sales amongst other but, the on going war between with the sanctions place on them jus dished all that. It called for a reschedule althoygj all that wasn't of recent but still, we are getting a delayed game following fans arrival and sales of ticket.
I want to be seeing some actions already, my adren :-Xaline is all up as all patience and tension has held up to this moment. I guess other nations would learn from all this and avoid conflict when they can.
I want to be seeing some actions already, my adren :-Xaline is all up as all patience and tension has held up to this moment. I guess other nations would learn from all this and avoid conflict when they can.
Seeing how things are going and the statements of those who are living in Russia or have relatives living in this situation, if it makes me sad, because they are killing a style of football that had been growing, I am sure that in Russia as in Ukraine There are many promises of football that can give us pleasant moments, but with this war, their future has been truncated, it may be that in order to save themselves, some players will be required to renounce their nationality, some Ukrainian players, the safest thing is that they have lost part of their relatives, and this is something very sad, somehow the war has ended the most beautiful sport in the world.
The suspension of Ukrainian football, is very unfortunate and will definitely harm the Ukrainian national team, because there are so many talented players in Ukraine who are playing in Europe, if the country continues to suspend the Russian football team, they are slowly killing the talent of the Russian players and clubs, because can no longer play in European competitions, I hope that FIFA and UEFA immediately lift the suspension, sport is an athlete to unite the nation.
Seeing how things are going and the statements of those who are living in Russia or have relatives living in this situation, if it makes me sad, because they are killing a style of football that had been growing, I am sure that in Russia as in Ukraine There are many promises of football that can give us pleasant moments, but with this war, their future has been truncated, it may be that in order to save themselves, some players will be required to renounce their nationality, some Ukrainian players, the safest thing is that they have lost part of their relatives, and this is something very sad, somehow the war has ended the most beautiful sport in the world.
One way or another, but UEFA and FIFA made a decision and excluded the clubs from Russia and the national team from all international competitions. At the moment, the richest Russian clubs (like Zenit) have no problems with the composition of the team, but in some others, I heard half the team has already fled because UEFA allowed foreign players to terminate the current contract unilaterally. I think in the summer the rest of the foreign football players (if they are worth anything) will also run away and the local championship will turn into some kind of phenomenal swamp.
reality for me of the Russian people, although I am not there, is that the majority must be against the war and the invasion, because they know that sooner or later if they attack Russia the ones who will suffer are its inhabitants, the rulers and politicians, it is very easy to leave the country and settle in another, because they have the resources to do so.
The truth of the matter is, no one likes war, not even Putin himself who is in the fore front of it. It's not a very enjoyable activity and even the soldiers that were trained for this, they don't find it fun and often wish it could just halt and end. You can tell from the many passionate reunions with there families after spending long weeks or months away from them. The problem is, when people see a reason to fight, they go headlock in for it and its a very bad situation, very bad.Having to live in your home, not knowing where the next bomb will hight or shooting would start and even, getting to live forcefully to see refuge elsewhere is something very disturbing.
I think they were on a very good path despite the whole system of government by which they live. I always like to recognize people's efforts, and I see that Russian soccer players shouldn't stop playing, I don't know if the solution is for them to be nationalized with other countries, but it is preferable so that they don't lose that talent to offer it to the world and At the same time, do not let all the effort that has been made since childhood be wasted.
It's one thing I noted of them in and after the world cup. I saw a different Russia that did put I there best to represent the country and tried to go far in the cup. I also saw how they expressed there emotions when they got eliminated. The war is taking a lot fro these athletes by keeping them at home, away from a part of there lives that they both love and earn there livelihood. So unfair!
This topic has seemed very interesting to me, because there is something that should be highlighted, the Russian athletes, specifically the soccer players have very good technique, they have improved it remarkably over the years, and although it is not a style as defined as the Germans, Brazilians, I think they were on a very good path despite the whole system of government by which they live. I always like to recognize people's efforts, and I see that Russian soccer players shouldn't stop playing, I don't know if the solution is for them to be nationalized with other countries, but it is preferable so that they don't lose that talent to offer it to the world and At the same time, do not let all the effort that has been made since childhood be wasted.
The Russian athletes are now starting to suffer the sanctions caused by their very own Putin and they're not allowed anymore to play with other countries. So Putin should be responsible enough to find solutions for this. Otherwise, the athletes will always feel discrimination, and has no choice but to wait for the next sporting event where the sanctions may be lifted by that time. It will be better if they can still play even in local events so that their skills will always be exercised.
The only adequate (and morally correct option in my opinion) is to go to another country and become its citizen or act as an independent athlete. Professional athletes in demand have no problems with this, and if I were such an athlete, I would have left a long time ago
Waiting for some event (normalization of the situation) that does not depend on you is always a bad choice.
These are the consequences of something that the world does not see, but what are they doing with their attitudes, I know that it is Putin who is acting badly, it is not the athletes, the Russian people are not entirely like him, I do not know, but if they told me that I had to renounce my citizenship no matter how bad my country is, I think I would not do it, just for national identity and not to please the tastes of people who are mostly promoting Xenophobia at a high level, no I am Russian, I only have one friend from my own country who is in Russia, and he tells me that the majority of people there are against this invasion, we and the international organizations have tried to put the Russians very badly, both boycott everything that has to do with them, and I think that is not the way, of course it is my simple opinion, no conflict of any kind is good.
There is a big problem with the Russian population which the latest polls (although most probably cheated by Russian state media) tell that 82% of the Russians back what Putin is doing in Ukraine.I don't know about the athletes but most people seem to like him,they are completely devastated the civilians (not the Russian government) by the sanctions yet no one is bold enough to stand up for their rights.I guess Russia is an oppressing country.
Yes,. I have seen that news, but you also have to start from the fact that the Russian State maintains control over everything, and that is clearly a manipulation that they can do in the media or on social networks, it is like looking for news in North Korea, or in Venezuela, the local news entities and all their organizations will make people see that everything is fine and that they are happy, the reality for me of the Russian people, although I am not there, is that the majority must be against the war and the invasion, because they know that sooner or later if they attack Russia the ones who will suffer are its inhabitants, the rulers and politicians, it is very easy to leave the country and settle in another, because they have the resources to do so.
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