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We don't know what is the reality happening within the country or it is the media that is making news out of these two countries. Came across a news in which it is mentioned that more than 65% of the people surveyed have stood in support of Putin.

So many Russians say they support the war in Ukraine.

We can't rely on the survey results, because it'll be based on small sample. If this is the representation of the entire population then it needs to be taken into consideration and analysed. Why such a big number is supporting the war which has been causing economic, and life destruction.
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You are absolutely right, sport can also be a tool that can bring this countries together. Other sanctions giving to Russia is enough but I don't support the sport sanction,  I don't support any that will affect the innocent citezen of Russia.  They should face the sanctions directly to the government and not sport men.
Although football is not the most popular sport in Russia (popular sports in Russia are hockey and boxing) these sanctions have a very hard impact on talented Russian athletes. based on my conscience, I also don't agree with this sanction and think it shouldn't be experienced by athletes because so far any sanctions imposed on russia have no impact on changing the war between russia and ukraine.
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Football or sports it a tool for friendship and peace. The Olympics was established after the world war to promote peace and unity among nations. Banning Russia from FIFA competition is very wrong. A match between Ukraine and Russia can promote peace between this nations. The players would be seen hugging each other and exchanging jerseys which would be nice. Also FIFA should be an unbaised organization. Some other countries have even more worst things than Russia and they were not sanctioned.
 

You are absolutely right, sport can also be a tool that can bring this countries together. Other sanctions giving to Russia is enough but I don't support the sport sanction,  I don't support any that will affect the innocent citezen of Russia.  They should face the sanctions directly to the government and not sport men.
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Yes, it is very strange not to understand that crimes of this magnitude cannot be carried out without the direct participation of hundreds, thousands and even millions of people. And now, while the war is going on, there is no point in determining who is to blame and who is not - the state of Russia is isolated until the war is stopped and the most high-ranking criminals are put in jail. After that, it will be possible to move on to more detailed assessments of the actions of individuals.

I believe football game shouldn't be biased or place under ethnicity segmentation, one thing I know for sure is that football game bring people together from different parts of the globe under the atmosphere of sport and this challenges that is happening to Russia should be a consequence in which their president should bear responsible and not the citizens or it sport organizations, this can happen to any country but when it comes to sport, i see no reason why they should be excluded afterall they are not the perpetrators of the ongoing war.

If we use your logic, then absolutely all sanctions against Russia must be lifted - after all, people who suffer, including people who have nothing to do with what is happening, right? As a result, this will lead to the strengthening of Russia and an increase in victims (at least for me this is obvious). Are these your proposals, or have I misunderstood you and do you have some other way for Putin to bear responsibility and no one else?
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Football or sports it a tool for friendship and peace. The Olympics was established after the world war to promote peace and unity among nations. Banning Russia from FIFA competition is very wrong. A match between Ukraine and Russia can promote peace between this nations. The players would be seen hugging each other and exchanging jerseys which would be nice. Also FIFA should be an unbaised organization. Some other countries have even more worst things than Russia and they were not sanctioned.
 
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This seems unfair to Russia.  They said FIFA and UEFA, political or governance issues are not brought into football.  Even if it's about humanity, why is Russian football being sanctioned?  while not for the state of Israel which invaded Palestine.  and the USA which occupied conflict countries.  I hate war and in the name of humanity, I denounce it.  what the Russians is doing is cruel and barbaric?  What is being done by the USA and Israel is not a noble act?  Why is only Russia is to blame? And why is there always justification for the state of Israel and the USA?

Do you have any arguments besides whataboutism? Russian football is under sanctions because it is part of a criminal country. Maybe in peacetime there will be a more thorough division into those involved and those not involved, but at a time when there is a war, the measures taken are absolutely correct.
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I believe football game shouldn't be biased or place under ethnicity segmentation, one thing I know for sure is that football game bring people together from different parts of the globe under the atmosphere of sport and this challenges that is happening to Russia should be a consequence in which their president should bear responsible and not the citizens or it sport organizations, this can happen to any country but when it comes to sport, i see no reason why they should be excluded afterall they are not the perpetrators of the ongoing war.

This seems unfair to Russia.  They said FIFA and UEFA, political or governance issues are not brought into football.  Even if it's about humanity, why is Russian football being sanctioned?  while not for the state of Israel which invaded Palestine.  and the USA which occupied conflict countries.  I hate war and in the name of humanity, I denounce it.  what the Russians is doing is cruel and barbaric?  What is being done by the USA and Israel is not a noble act?  Why is only Russia is to blame? And why is there always justification for the state of Israel and the USA?
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Wow. One man committed so many crimes! Whose hands are at war? Whose hands are committing crimes against the civilian population of Ukraine (as in Bucha and other settlements)? Was it all done by Putin alone? I am sure that when all this is over, the propagandists (who are now saying on TV around the clock that the Ukrainians are Nazis and that they must be destroyed) will say so. But adequate people understand that it's not just about Putin alone.

Add in his cronies and those who wants to benefit from this war. There's a lot involved behind the scenes and they just don't want to be where everyone else's attention is. The one to blame will always be Putin, because he's the face of the Russian government for a long time, but I'm sure that he's not alone when he began plotting for the invasion of Ukraine. I'm sure China and NoKor has their hands on deck too, with the support they've been giving Russia on everything except military might.

It's just sad that Russia's athletes are suffering from this war that is the result of the animosity between the West and Russia. Lots of wasted potentials and talents, as they will surely be singled out and isolated from world sporting events that should have been a platform for them to showcase what they can do to the sporting world.

Yes, it is very strange not to understand that crimes of this magnitude cannot be carried out without the direct participation of hundreds, thousands and even millions of people. And now, while the war is going on, there is no point in determining who is to blame and who is not - the state of Russia is isolated until the war is stopped and the most high-ranking criminals are put in jail. After that, it will be possible to move on to more detailed assessments of the actions of individuals.

I believe football game shouldn't be biased or place under ethnicity segmentation, one thing I know for sure is that football game bring people together from different parts of the globe under the atmosphere of sport and this challenges that is happening to Russia should be a consequence in which their president should bear responsible and not the citizens or it sport organizations, this can happen to any country but when it comes to sport, i see no reason why they should be excluded afterall they are not the perpetrators of the ongoing war.
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The Russian athletes are now starting to suffer the sanctions caused by their very own Putin and they're not allowed anymore to play with other countries. So Putin should be responsible enough to find solutions for this. Otherwise, the athletes will always feel discrimination, and has no choice but to wait for the next sporting event where the sanctions may be lifted by that time. It will be better if they can still play even in local events so that their skills will always be exercised.

The only adequate (and morally correct option in my opinion) is to go to another country and become its citizen or act as an independent athlete. Professional athletes in demand have no problems with this, and if I were such an athlete, I would have left a long time ago  Smiley
Waiting for some event (normalization of the situation) that does not depend on you is always a bad choice.

These are the consequences of something that the world does not see, but what are they doing with their attitudes, I know that it is Putin who is acting badly, it is not the athletes, the Russian people are not entirely like him, I do not know, but if they told me that I had to renounce my citizenship no matter how bad my country is, I think I would not do it, just for national identity and not to please the tastes of people who are mostly promoting Xenophobia at a high level, no I am Russian, I only have one friend from my own country who is in Russia, and he tells me that the majority of people there are against this invasion, we and the international organizations have tried to put the Russians very badly, both boycott everything that has to do with them, and I think that is not the way, of course it is my simple opinion, no conflict of any kind is good.


There is a big problem with the Russian population which the latest polls (although most probably cheated by Russian state media) tell that 82% of the Russians back what Putin is doing in Ukraine.I don't know about the athletes but most people seem to like him,they are completely devastated the civilians (not the Russian government) by the sanctions yet no one is bold enough to stand up for their rights.I guess Russia is an oppressing country.
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The Russian Federation has suffered negatively from the action of just one man Russian President has refused to back down from the war and this is affecting the entire economy of the country now athletes and sportspeople are are being ban from the international community the FIFA ban will cut short the ambition of many players who could have loved to showcase the talent in the world cup.


the war that occurred between the two countries had such a great impact that it also affected sports, especially Russian football where the Russian national team and were also prohibited from appearing in European competitions and the world cup, of course everyone did not want to leave the country to fight but we also regret the decision taken by the FIFA with the imposition of sanctions on the Russian national team and also several clubs from the country, thus making them absent from competitions under the auspices of FIFA and also UEFA, although this is very unfortunate but the decisions that have been taken by FIFA cannot be reversed
I think the global sport and other financial institutions should consider the citizens of Russia as most of them are not in support of the war and are in solidarity with the Ukrainians, if the FIFA organizers should ban Rusia from this year round of the world cup it will affect the players more than the president or Russian government.

So in the spirit of humanity and the innocent civilians let global institutions and individuals be linen on the citizens

It seems Russia have already been suspended from all European competitions and from the World Cup, having cancelled qualifying matches with Poland. I don't know how long such sanctions will last, but I don't think it's fair to the whole country. Russia is not Putin! The whole country regrets what happened and suffers because of one crazy dictator.
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What is Russia president don't care about the fifa ban and will even order it citizens not to participate in any global game since their economy is under sanction, I know this is a though time for the world as the Russian invasion of Ukraine comtinues.
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I am quite sure that some countries will be willing to adopt Russian athletes as their own, in fact this is not uncommon and unlike some sports even if they had represented Russia before in official events most athletes are still allowed to represent another country due to their own particular circumstances.

And I think that being affected by a war they did not wanted qualifies as one of the circumstances that will allow them to try to represent another country instead of representing Russia as they have being doing so far.
They will because those players are innocent. We should not put the blame to the people in Ukraine other than Putin and his team that attacks the Ukraine but the only problem is if they will be allowed to play for other teams because their country was still under the sanctions. Even if we don't want to, I think the idea behind sanctions is to make everybody struggle on that particular country.

The war can end end soon but I don't think the sanctions are also going to wear off so it's still not possible for the Russian athletes to go back in the game. I guess the only way for them to play is to wait again for the next sporting event.
The Russian athletes are now starting to suffer the sanctions caused by their very own Putin and they're not allowed anymore to play with other countries. So Putin should be responsible enough to find solutions for this. Otherwise, the athletes will always feel discrimination, and has no choice but to wait for the next sporting event where the sanctions may be lifted by that time. It will be better if they can still play even in local events so that their skills will always be exercised.
Will the other sports federation ban the powerful countries which are killing innocent lives all over the world.  I doubt that - there are other factors which are involved in it. I think - most of the sections are coming from USA to weaken Russia and make it an isolated country.
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The Russian Federation has suffered negatively from the action of just one man Russian President has refused to back down from the war and this is affecting the entire economy of the country now athletes and sportspeople are are being ban from the international community the FIFA ban will cut short the ambition of many players who could have loved to showcase the talent in the world cup.


the war that occurred between the two countries had such a great impact that it also affected sports, especially Russian football where the Russian national team and were also prohibited from appearing in European competitions and the world cup, of course everyone did not want to leave the country to fight but we also regret the decision taken by the FIFA with the imposition of sanctions on the Russian national team and also several clubs from the country, thus making them absent from competitions under the auspices of FIFA and also UEFA, although this is very unfortunate but the decisions that have been taken by FIFA cannot be reversed
I think the global sport and other financial institutions should consider the citizens of Russia as most of them are not in support of the war and are in solidarity with the Ukrainians, if the FIFA organizers should ban Rusia from this year round of the world cup it will affect the players more than the president or Russian government.

So in the spirit of humanity and the innocent civilians let global institutions and individuals be linen on the citizens
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The Russian Federation has suffered negatively from the action of just one man Russian President has refused to back down from the war and this is affecting the entire economy of the country now athletes and sportspeople are are being ban from the international community the FIFA ban will cut short the ambition of many players who could have loved to showcase the talent in the world cup.


the war that occurred between the two countries had such a great impact that it also affected sports, especially Russian football where the Russian national team and were also prohibited from appearing in European competitions and the world cup, of course everyone did not want to leave the country to fight but we also regret the decision taken by the FIFA with the imposition of sanctions on the Russian national team and also several clubs from the country, thus making them absent from competitions under the auspices of FIFA and also UEFA, although this is very unfortunate but the decisions that have been taken by FIFA cannot be reversed
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What do you guys think of this development? How will this affect the players and athletes as well as workers in/for the team, how about the forth coming world cup?

In practice, this decision will not affect the organization of the tournament almost at all. Russia wasn't sure if would qualify to the World Cup anyway, so in practice it will look like they just didn't get in.
i don't agree with Russia invading Ukraine or any other country invading another, but they used to always say that they need to keep politics out of sports but show the opposite every time, it's not even the fault of Russian players anyways, why ban their whole team ? the correct thing was to keep politics out of sports, play enjoy and let fans watch and enjoy, politics affect everything in the world now.
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What do you guys think of this development? How will this affect the players and athletes as well as workers in/for the team, how about the forth coming world cup?

In practice, this decision will not affect the organization of the tournament almost at all. Russia wasn't sure if would qualify to the World Cup anyway, so in practice it will look like they just didn't get in.
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Wow. One man committed so many crimes! Whose hands are at war? Whose hands are committing crimes against the civilian population of Ukraine (as in Bucha and other settlements)? Was it all done by Putin alone? I am sure that when all this is over, the propagandists (who are now saying on TV around the clock that the Ukrainians are Nazis and that they must be destroyed) will say so. But adequate people understand that it's not just about Putin alone.

Add in his cronies and those who wants to benefit from this war. There's a lot involved behind the scenes and they just don't want to be where everyone else's attention is. The one to blame will always be Putin, because he's the face of the Russian government for a long time, but I'm sure that he's not alone when he began plotting for the invasion of Ukraine. I'm sure China and NoKor has their hands on deck too, with the support they've been giving Russia on everything except military might.

It's just sad that Russia's athletes are suffering from this war that is the result of the animosity between the West and Russia. Lots of wasted potentials and talents, as they will surely be singled out and isolated from world sporting events that should have been a platform for them to showcase what they can do to the sporting world.

Yes, it is very strange not to understand that crimes of this magnitude cannot be carried out without the direct participation of hundreds, thousands and even millions of people. And now, while the war is going on, there is no point in determining who is to blame and who is not - the state of Russia is isolated until the war is stopped and the most high-ranking criminals are put in jail. After that, it will be possible to move on to more detailed assessments of the actions of individuals.
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The Russian Federation has suffered negatively from the action of just one man Russian President has refused to back down from the war and this is affecting the entire economy of the country now athletes and sportspeople are are being ban from the international community the FIFA ban will cut short the ambition of many players who could have loved to showcase the talent in the world cup.

Wow. One man committed so many crimes! Whose hands are at war? Whose hands are committing crimes against the civilian population of Ukraine (as in Bucha and other settlements)? Was it all done by Putin alone? I am sure that when all this is over, the propagandists (who are now saying on TV around the clock that the Ukrainians are Nazis and that they must be destroyed) will say so. But adequate people understand that it's not just about Putin alone.
Today I was watching the news and saw Isarlis attacking people of Palastininen.
Here Russians are killing Ukraninens. What will this ban do when powerful will keep suppressing the weakest. I wish if the powerful leaders show some mercy towards other.
This is International politics and the powerful will always oppress the weak and that is how the power play has always been right from the time when the global peace and unity were divided after the world war and the cold war, but with sanctions from other global members the powerful nation's can easily be forced to stop their oppressions.

Fifa have done well in my opinion and the sanction will have a strong effect on the Russian nation.
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The Russian Federation has suffered negatively from the action of just one man Russian President has refused to back down from the war and this is affecting the entire economy of the country now athletes and sportspeople are are being ban from the international community the FIFA ban will cut short the ambition of many players who could have loved to showcase the talent in the world cup.

Wow. One man committed so many crimes! Whose hands are at war? Whose hands are committing crimes against the civilian population of Ukraine (as in Bucha and other settlements)? Was it all done by Putin alone? I am sure that when all this is over, the propagandists (who are now saying on TV around the clock that the Ukrainians are Nazis and that they must be destroyed) will say so. But adequate people understand that it's not just about Putin alone.
Today I was watching the news and saw Isarlis attacking people of Palastininen.
Here Russians are killing Ukraninens. What will this ban do when powerful will keep suppressing the weakest. I wish if the powerful leaders show some mercy towards other.
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The Russian Federation has suffered negatively from the action of just one man Russian President has refused to back down from the war and this is affecting the entire economy of the country now athletes and sportspeople are are being ban from the international community the FIFA ban will cut short the ambition of many players who could have loved to showcase the talent in the world cup.

Wow. One man committed so many crimes! Whose hands are at war? Whose hands are committing crimes against the civilian population of Ukraine (as in Bucha and other settlements)? Was it all done by Putin alone? I am sure that when all this is over, the propagandists (who are now saying on TV around the clock that the Ukrainians are Nazis and that they must be destroyed) will say so. But adequate people understand that it's not just about Putin alone.

Add in his cronies and those who wants to benefit from this war. There's a lot involved behind the scenes and they just don't want to be where everyone else's attention is. The one to blame will always be Putin, because he's the face of the Russian government for a long time, but I'm sure that he's not alone when he began plotting for the invasion of Ukraine. I'm sure China and NoKor has their hands on deck too, with the support they've been giving Russia on everything except military might.

It's just sad that Russia's athletes are suffering from this war that is the result of the animosity between the West and Russia. Lots of wasted potentials and talents, as they will surely be singled out and isolated from world sporting events that should have been a platform for them to showcase what they can do to the sporting world.
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