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I believe the move of these organizations are also influenced by the call of people worldwide.
So as part of joining the boycott for any Russian-related subjects, they suspend the Russian teams.
We all know that most of these Russian people are not pro-Putin, but people today have this "cancel" culture.
And unfortunately, the athletes are suffering because of the move of their leader towards Ukraine.
Now, I believe some of them will think of getting a different nationality, just for the love of sports.
Athletes won't be so easy for to move to another country because they will definitely find it very difficult to leave their families in their hometown

Besides that, the athletes must be equipped with an attitude of love for the homeland, not sports, so I predict that there will be no Russian athletes moving to another country
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FIFA must be consistent with regulations like this, if they don't want to include the names of countries attacking other countries because of political problems until a war occurs like Russia, then in the future they must do the same thing. It would be unfair if this was only done for Russia, considering that football should not be associated with politics. If I'm not mistaken, in the past when Israel and Palestine had political problems, FIFA did not take serious action against Israeli football. (CMIIW). So, if this is the first step from FIFA, and the same thing should be done in the future.
FIFA's decision was totally unfair on the side of Russian players because what was going on their country was never their own will, and in fact they were also very affected by the war. Hopefully, FIFA should be more firm and fair in their next decisions and should not end up discriminating the players. I firmly believe that they don't deserve the suspension. What the leader of the country has done has nothing to do with its own citizens.

I believe the move of these organizations are also influenced by the call of people worldwide.
So as part of joining the boycott for any Russian-related subjects, they suspend the Russian teams.
We all know that most of these Russian people are not pro-Putin, but people today have this "cancel" culture.
And unfortunately, the athletes are suffering because of the move of their leader towards Ukraine.
Now, I believe some of them will think of getting a different nationality, just for the love of sports.
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FIFA must be consistent with regulations like this, if they don't want to include the names of countries attacking other countries because of political problems until a war occurs like Russia, then in the future they must do the same thing. It would be unfair if this was only done for Russia, considering that football should not be associated with politics. If I'm not mistaken, in the past when Israel and Palestine had political problems, FIFA did not take serious action against Israeli football. (CMIIW). So, if this is the first step from FIFA, and the same thing should be done in the future.
FIFA's decision was totally unfair on the side of Russian players because what was going on their country was never their own will, and in fact they were also very affected by the war. Hopefully, FIFA should be more firm and fair in their next decisions and should not end up discriminating the players. I firmly believe that they don't deserve the suspension. What the leader of the country has done has nothing to do with its own citizens.
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Meaning that down the line the war against Ukraine could have effects that could last for decades in the ability of Russia as a nation to complete in international sport events, as their most talented athletes decide to move to other countries.
Maybe it's an alternative to the Russian altlets, but are they accepted to move countries? I didn't even get any new news when the war would end. Putin certainly knows the risks he will have. So Putin should have prepared a move to keep respecting the fate of the sportsmen who are there. Although I don't think it can replace the disappointment that sports athletes have been banned from participating in the world championships. If later the war stops they also need time to be readmitted to the world sports event.
I don't think he expected such a reaction. In general, apparently for russian elite this reaction was unexpected. It seemed that it would be like in 2014, when some sanctions were imposed, but locally. Neither the Russian elite nor the Russian oligarchs felt those "sanctions" in any way. The only one who felt it then was the people. And now Europe has taken it seriously, so athletes who, like most people, did not know anything about the future special operation also fell under this "skating rink" of sanctions. Now athletes have a choice - either to change their citizenship and country of residence, or wait for it all to end.
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Meaning that down the line the war against Ukraine could have effects that could last for decades in the ability of Russia as a nation to complete in international sport events, as their most talented athletes decide to move to other countries.
Maybe it's an alternative to the Russian altlets, but are they accepted to move countries? I didn't even get any new news when the war would end. Putin certainly knows the risks he will have. So Putin should have prepared a move to keep respecting the fate of the sportsmen who are there. Although I don't think it can replace the disappointment that sports athletes have been banned from participating in the world championships. If later the war stops they also need time to be readmitted to the world sports event.
not only time but also mental because of course athletes from other countries will exclude them as a support for Ukraine. Besides that, the quality of Russian athletes will definitely have a big impact and experience a drastic decline because they haven't competed in a long time. The impact of this sanction is really big.
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Meaning that down the line the war against Ukraine could have effects that could last for decades in the ability of Russia as a nation to complete in international sport events, as their most talented athletes decide to move to other countries.
Maybe it's an alternative to the Russian altlets, but are they accepted to move countries? I didn't even get any new news when the war would end. Putin certainly knows the risks he will have. So Putin should have prepared a move to keep respecting the fate of the sportsmen who are there. Although I don't think it can replace the disappointment that sports athletes have been banned from participating in the world championships. If later the war stops they also need time to be readmitted to the world sports event.
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The bad thing in this history is not that Russia is excluded from all international competitions not only in football, but in almost all other disciplines, but the bad thing is that athletes will lose their classification and experience because the level of play will drop a lot. The motivation for Russian players has always been lacking because they were paid a huge amount of money for any results. And now the quality of their game will decrease even more, because they will only play each other, where everyone has a bad level.
This is no something that I have thought but I think you are right, and not only that, the talented Russian athletes and coaches which disagree with the policies of Putin may have no other option but to leave their country, renounce their citizenship and represent other countries.

Meaning that down the line the war against Ukraine could have effects that could last for decades in the ability of Russia as a nation to complete in international sport events, as their most talented athletes decide to move to other countries.
I agree with both of you. The mental health and the active mind is the strength of an athlete and a sportsman. I am very sure it will go a very long. Most of the time we are unable to even think what are going to be after affect of the decision made today. War is a curse - it linger longer than the predicted time frame



The bad thing in this history is not that Russia is excluded from all international competitions not only in football, but in almost all other disciplines, but the bad thing is that athletes will lose their classification and experience because the level of play will drop a lot. The motivation for Russian players has always been lacking because they were paid a huge amount of money for any results. And now the quality of their game will decrease even more, because they will only play each other, where everyone has a bad level.
This is no something that I have thought but I think you are right, and not only that, the talented Russian athletes and coaches which disagree with the policies of Putin may have no other option but to leave their country, renounce their citizenship and represent other countries.

Meaning that down the line the war against Ukraine could have effects that could last for decades in the ability of Russia as a nation to complete in international sport events, as their most talented athletes decide to move to other countries.
A week before my local news channel broadcasted that many Russians flee from the country as they feel their future has been doomed. Tough time for both the side. Ukraine has been bombarded by the Russians. While Russians were bombarded by the world with the sanctions. The loss is unrepairable for both the parties.

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The bad thing in this history is not that Russia is excluded from all international competitions not only in football, but in almost all other disciplines, but the bad thing is that athletes will lose their classification and experience because the level of play will drop a lot. The motivation for Russian players has always been lacking because they were paid a huge amount of money for any results. And now the quality of their game will decrease even more, because they will only play each other, where everyone has a bad level.
This is no something that I have thought but I think you are right, and not only that, the talented Russian athletes and coaches which disagree with the policies of Putin may have no other option but to leave their country, renounce their citizenship and represent other countries.

Meaning that down the line the war against Ukraine could have effects that could last for decades in the ability of Russia as a nation to complete in international sport events, as their most talented athletes decide to move to other countries.
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here is a cartoon which shows very clearly that the whole football and its infrastructure built for the euro 2012 as well as the whole stadiums will be or were destroyed by the whole war Undecided Embarrassed

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOb4jh5WQAMfFAz?format=jpg&name=small
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Murdering innocent Ukrainians, including footballers, fans of @FCShakhtar or @DynamoKyiv - THIS IS NOT POLITICS!
These are Ukrainian clubs, not Russian. Destroying stadiums that were built only 10 years for the #EURO2012 is also killing football in this independent country.
https://twitter.com/11vs11art/status/1506164416907202565
In all possible way organisations and governments were showing their opposition to the war, but the agressive move of Putin is getting continued. Initially they weren't attacking any of the buildings, in between started to attack the infrastructure of the country. The latest being the kidnapping of children. This is completely unacceptable and against humanity. What does the child know, this will create hate over Russia in their minds and the same lasts forever.

More than 2,300 children ‘kidnapped’ by Russian forces, says Ukraine
In my opinion Russia is getting desperate, they thought they will be able to win the war in under a week and they were unable to do so, this created a whole set of problems they were not expecting that had to do with logistics, which is a key aspect on modern warfare, so they are hitting what the military call soft targets in order to try to diminish the moral of the Ukrainian soldiers and the volunteers, however this can also have the opposite effect and this means the Ukrainian army will  resist the advance of the Russian army in an even more determined way.
I have seen on instagram that Ukraine witches are making spells on Putin and Moscow is planning hackers attack and they will use the renowed to hack important URLs. Where this war is heading is a serious concern and everyone should be praying for the safety and security of everyone around. 
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here is a cartoon which shows very clearly that the whole football and its infrastructure built for the euro 2012 as well as the whole stadiums will be or were destroyed by the whole war Undecided Embarrassed

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOb4jh5WQAMfFAz?format=jpg&name=small
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Murdering innocent Ukrainians, including footballers, fans of @FCShakhtar or @DynamoKyiv - THIS IS NOT POLITICS!
These are Ukrainian clubs, not Russian. Destroying stadiums that were built only 10 years for the #EURO2012 is also killing football in this independent country.
https://twitter.com/11vs11art/status/1506164416907202565
In all possible way organisations and governments were showing their opposition to the war, but the agressive move of Putin is getting continued. Initially they weren't attacking any of the buildings, in between started to attack the infrastructure of the country. The latest being the kidnapping of children. This is completely unacceptable and against humanity. What does the child know, this will create hate over Russia in their minds and the same lasts forever.

More than 2,300 children ‘kidnapped’ by Russian forces, says Ukraine
In my opinion Russia is getting desperate, they thought they will be able to win the war in under a week and they were unable to do so, this created a whole set of problems they were not expecting that had to do with logistics, which is a key aspect on modern warfare, so they are hitting what the military call soft targets in order to try to diminish the moral of the Ukrainian soldiers and the volunteers, however this can also have the opposite effect and this means the Ukrainian army will  resist the advance of the Russian army in an even more determined way.
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One does not cancel the other. Now all sanctions will be applied, both fair and unfair, effective and ineffective. This is a signal to Russia and the world that such actions as Russia arranged by starting a war with Ukraine are unacceptable in the modern world.



By the way, I read local sports news (Russian) and watch a huge stream of players who, using the permission of FIFA and UEFA to terminate contracts with Russian clubs unilaterally, leave Russia en masse. It seems that club football in Russia in just one season will roll back 20-30 years and subsequently return to a normal level will be incredibly difficult.
But Russia will recover - I am sure all the section are temporary and they will end once the war is over. Russia is a super power. They are unstoppable and they know how to keep allies united. I am amazed how the world has reacted for the first time against war. Have that had happened earlier when other counties were calling for help. This horrible situation would have avoided.
I particularly think of something, I like the style of Russian football, and it also seems to me that training football in Russia is something of another level, because I imagine that they are used to doing it in the middle of the snow, and this is something that puts a lot of power on a physical level to a person, in this case the physical condition, also as it says that football can go back so many years, I hope that is not the case, as long as there is a generation of relief as+i in the streets, new promises can be generated, if not a clear example It's in Brazil, where the best players come out of the streets, like the case of Ronaldo, Roberto Carlos, I believe a lot in the Russian talent for soccer as well as I believe that everything related to the war will pass.
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here is a cartoon which shows very clearly that the whole football and its infrastructure built for the euro 2012 as well as the whole stadiums will be or were destroyed by the whole war Undecided Embarrassed

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOb4jh5WQAMfFAz?format=jpg&name=small
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Murdering innocent Ukrainians, including footballers, fans of @FCShakhtar or @DynamoKyiv - THIS IS NOT POLITICS!
These are Ukrainian clubs, not Russian. Destroying stadiums that were built only 10 years for the #EURO2012 is also killing football in this independent country.
https://twitter.com/11vs11art/status/1506164416907202565
In all possible way organisations and governments were showing their opposition to the war, but the agressive move of Putin is getting continued. Initially they weren't attacking any of the buildings, in between started to attack the infrastructure of the country. The latest being the kidnapping of children. This is completely unacceptable and against humanity. What does the child know, this will create hate over Russia in their minds and the same lasts forever.

More than 2,300 children ‘kidnapped’ by Russian forces, says Ukraine
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I'm not Russian, but I was still shocked by your generalization.

We cannot blame every Russian citizen for Putin's consequences, Russian people cannot change their country in the same way they change the football team they support.

Remember that many Russian people who protested against Putin were arrested, and this is the main reason many people remain neutral, but that doesn't mean they agree.

Being an Indian, I would say that it is wrong to blame Russia alone in this case. Russia did what any other country would do in self-defense. The endless expansion of NATO is the main trigger here. How would the Americans feel if Russia sets up missile bases across the border at Tijuana? From what I have seen, the vast majority of people in my country support Russia. Ukrainians made the mistake when they elected a clown as their president. Their soldiers are using civilians as human shield, and then complaining that the Russians are bombing residential areas.
EHUM _ Remember last time - when the incident of "fantastic tea" happened. There was a good chance that India and Pak will be difficult situation and Ik preferred talks over war. Saying that it's a power show where Human die on both the side of boarder - so war is never a solution -it only brings destruction and misery no matter how may good reasons a nation has.
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here is a cartoon which shows very clearly that the whole football and its infrastructure built for the euro 2012 as well as the whole stadiums will be or were destroyed by the whole war Undecided Embarrassed


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Murdering innocent Ukrainians, including footballers, fans of @FCShakhtar or @DynamoKyiv - THIS IS NOT POLITICS!
These are Ukrainian clubs, not Russian. Destroying stadiums that were built only 10 years for the #EURO2012 is also killing football in this independent country.
https://twitter.com/11vs11art/status/1506164416907202565
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The bad thing in this history is not that Russia is excluded from all international competitions not only in football, but in almost all other disciplines, but the bad thing is that athletes will lose their classification and experience because the level of play will drop a lot. The motivation for Russian players has always been lacking because they were paid a huge amount of money for any results. And now the quality of their game will decrease even more, because they will only play each other, where everyone has a bad level.
That is a sorry sight. The war is never a solution. I wish both the authorities sit and find a solution to save both the side from physical and psychological trauma.  
This war is surely affecting  sportsmen, athletes, gamblers businessmen and every citizen on both the sides also there will be global affects as well, I wish and hope this war ends soon.  
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The bad thing in this history is not that Russia is excluded from all international competitions not only in football, but in almost all other disciplines, but the bad thing is that athletes will lose their classification and experience because the level of play will drop a lot. The motivation for Russian players has always been lacking because they were paid a huge amount of money for any results. And now the quality of their game will decrease even more, because they will only play each other, where everyone has a bad level.
the mentality of the athletes will definitely be badly affected because of this sanction, they will not develop if they only play in the local football league

the latest news that I heard, the president of ukraine has been refused 3 times to make peace by russia, this shows that putin does not care about the economic and sports sanctions imposed by his countries. Putin is a dictator and his brain is messed up
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The bad thing in this history is not that Russia is excluded from all international competitions not only in football, but in almost all other disciplines, but the bad thing is that athletes will lose their classification and experience because the level of play will drop a lot. The motivation for Russian players has always been lacking because they were paid a huge amount of money for any results. And now the quality of their game will decrease even more, because they will only play each other, where everyone has a bad level.
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Of course I agree with this, but in fact only Russian citizens are now being punished. They have lost their purchasing power and cannot help themselves that Putin is implementing a hard and tight regime. The more sanctions you impose, the more Russia turns against the West, and the more it affects the Russian people. It will be the same with gambling, but there are still plenty of gambling sites that will accept Russian players.
This is what makes war so useless, innocent people end up paying the price because of the decisions politicians took at the very top while those politicians do not suffer at all.

After all do we think that Putin is suffering because of all the sanctions that have been imposed against his government? He does not care, because if he did then the war would not have happened at all as he would have known the US was not going to tolerate something like this, so right now the only ones suffering at Russia are the citizens.
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Many Russian citizens in other countries are already experiencing acts of harassment and bullying by some locals. It makes no difference to those who engage in it who the person is - a famous soccer player, a scientist or an oppositionist to the current government in Russia who has decided to run away from what is happening in the country. And this is very sad.
It is high time - that the world should should stand up against violence. But then I think  there will be no stopping- no matter how many sections are made against Russia. Russia will rise,it will remain a  powerful state and will keep imposing their powers on the weak counties. There will be the same kind of wars in coming days and innocent will suffer like always.

Of course I agree with this, but in fact only Russian citizens are now being punished. They have lost their purchasing power and cannot help themselves that Putin is implementing a hard and tight regime. The more sanctions you impose, the more Russia turns against the West, and the more it affects the Russian people. It will be the same with gambling, but there are still plenty of gambling sites that will accept Russian players.
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One does not cancel the other. Now all sanctions will be applied, both fair and unfair, effective and ineffective. This is a signal to Russia and the world that such actions as Russia arranged by starting a war with Ukraine are unacceptable in the modern world.



By the way, I read local sports news (Russian) and watch a huge stream of players who, using the permission of FIFA and UEFA to terminate contracts with Russian clubs unilaterally, leave Russia en masse. It seems that club football in Russia in just one season will roll back 20-30 years and subsequently return to a normal level will be incredibly difficult.
But Russia will recover - I am sure all the section are temporary and they will end once the war is over. Russia is a super power. They are unstoppable and they know how to keep allies united. I am amazed how the world has reacted for the first time against war. Have that had happened earlier when other counties were calling for help. This horrible situation would have avoided.
Even if the sanctions do not end automatically once the war ends their power will be limited, after all the world still needs oil and gas, so if the US and other countries do not want Russia as their provider there will always be someone interested in buying those two commodities regardless of what the US says, so even if Russia is not able to get the markets rates for their oil, the price has grown so much that they will still get way more money than what they did in the recent past before the war started.
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