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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on October 11, 2024, 11:44:27 PM

I'm always keeping an eye on all the details of the Ligue 1 teams , but what really catches my attention is that Marseille is gaining a lot of popularity. I haven't seen a full Marseille game until now, but what I have seen convinces me quite a bit , not to mention Lille because Lille surprised me in the UCL. Now, I don't know if the teams are also different in the UCL, but it's something that I like because I see Marseille with more desire, and I also see them well because it is no longer the same dominance of a PSG, that PSG that was scary when Mbappé and that terrible trident were there , well , now the teams are believing it and the level of this Ligue 1 is rising.

A few weeks ago I didn't even know why Marseille had such a great improvement and another member here told me that Marseille had a new player with an amazing performance and that was Greenwood. After that I was curious to see how Greenwood would perform and it turned out that his contribution was very good with the speed of play that made the competition very interesting.
Even so, it doesn't mean that PSG's dominance has been broken by other teams. But it's just that right now PSG is having a hard time because the competition in league 1 has become more competitive after Marseille and other teams have had a huge improvement.

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Well, if we look at the whole thing, there is actually nothing special about Paris Saint Germain's game, but even so, they are still the best in Ligue 1. This is because of the inability of other teams to play well consistently, so they easily decline after they have been able to occupy the top of the standings for some time. There are many moments that we can see where Paris Saint Germain was not at the top of the standings at first, but they had inconsistent competitors so it didn't take long for them to return to their usual place. Even though at the beginning of the season there were actually several teams that could play well, when we expect them to continue to perform like that, at the same time they will decline.

The beginning of the season is when all teams want to show what they can do, without any burden, so they can play optimally. So it is not surprising to see even the less favored teams can have good performances at the beginning of the season. But now everything is gone, slowly we can see which teams are consistent & which teams are not.

Even though Paris Saint-Germain is not playing very well, they have good financial strength, so they will easily improve their squad if something happens that the manager does not want, that is why we see Paris Saint-Germain being at the bottom and suddenly being at the top of the standings.

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But, it seems that so far Reims can maximize good results when Reims plays against teams that are basically not part of the top teams in Ligue 1, so Reims managed to get full points in the match. Meanwhile, when Reims played against top teams like PSG and Marseille in fact Reims only got a draw, although at the beginning of this season Reims lost against Lille but these results did not make Reims desperate. Because with the defeat at the beginning of the season it seems to make Reims get better but even though so far Reims has good results, I personally don't believe Reims will finish in the top four,because in reality Reims is a team that more often finishes in the middle of the standings.

By my judgment, Reims, is gradually becoming some sort of reliable with their performance as they are now doing much better than i have seen and known them to be last season and if they can maintain this form, though they may not be able to win the league title they will be able to finish well such that they will be amongst top teams and be bale to make it to playing in other to leagues next season, this I'm saying because they were able to hold PSG and Marseille who happens to be to teams tin their league now to a draw and didn't loose the game.

Reims have shown quite good improvement so far and if they continue to perform like that it is not impossible that Reims will finish in the top 5 this season even though they have always finished in the middle of the table, every club definitely wants progress not forever Reims will stay in the middle of the table without any target, the most important thing for them right now is that they can maintain their consistency when facing clubs below them, they have passed 3 quite tough tests when they had to face strong candidates for League 1 such as PSG, Marseille and Lille after that at the end of the year they faced another strong candidate against Monaco if Reims get another draw again that is a good result for a team like Reims.

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Quote from: indah rezqi on October 11, 2024, 04:55:29 PM

Marseille are much better this season, they started the season impressively, they definitely have the potential to compete for the top of the standings. We certainly don't ignore PSG dominance, but I think Marseille are at least able to put pressure on and make the competition for the Ligue 1 trophy more exciting. Marseille are currently 5 points behind AS Monaco who are currently at the top of the standings, there is still a chance to reduce the points gap in the next matches.

Marseille are stronger and more competitive while PSG are weaker after losing Mbappe and changing their development strategy since in two latest summer transfer seasons. Decreasing quality of PSG at least in this season, will help some clubs in Ligue 1 like Marseille to have better opportunities of competing the league title.

Lille won Ligue 1 title some years ago as a big surprise but if Marseille or any club win Ligue 1 title in this season, it will not be a big shock. Because with strategic changes in PSG, it's expected that their club will have a transitional phase that makes them weaker and can lose Ligue 1 title to other clubs.

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With full focus on domestic competition, De Zerbi seems to be able to make Marseille finish in the Champions League zone, expectations have increased since he took over as manager. If Marseille manages to recruit Pogba in the January transfer window, as is rumored, their strength to become a trophy challenger will be even more taken into account.

A high position in Ligue 1 for joining Champions League next season is important for Marseille. It's their first target in this season, and if possible winning Ligue 1 title will be a very good achievement for their club and De Zebri. Success in Marseille will help De Zebri receiving some good offers in big clubs and improving his coach career.

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Quote from: Pandorak on October 10, 2024, 10:01:06 PM

By the way, it seems we haven't paid enough attention to Marseille, they are currently in top form, with Greenwood as the top scorer of the team.

I'm always keeping an eye on all the details of the Ligue 1 teams , but what really catches my attention is that Marseille is gaining a lot of popularity. I haven't seen a full Marseille game until now, but what I have seen convinces me quite a bit , not to mention Lille because Lille surprised me in the UCL. Now, I don't know if the teams are also different in the UCL, but it's something that I like because I see Marseille with more desire, and I also see them well because it is no longer the same dominance of a PSG, that PSG that was scary when Mbappé and that terrible trident were there , well , now the teams are believing it and the level of this Ligue 1 is rising.

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Quote from: hahay on October 11, 2024, 03:32:14 PM

But, it seems that so far Reims can maximize good results when Reims plays against teams that are basically not part of the top teams in Ligue 1, so Reims managed to get full points in the match. Meanwhile, when Reims played against top teams like PSG and Marseille in fact Reims only got a draw, although at the beginning of this season Reims lost against Lille but these results did not make Reims desperate. Because with the defeat at the beginning of the season it seems to make Reims get better but even though so far Reims has good results, I personally don't believe Reims will finish in the top four,because in reality Reims is a team that more often finishes in the middle of the standings.

By my judgment, Reims, is gradually becoming some sort of reliable with their performance as they are now doing much better than i have seen and known them to be last season and if they can maintain this form, though they may not be able to win the league title they will be able to finish well such that they will be amongst top teams and be bale to make it to playing in other to leagues next season, this I'm saying because they were able to hold PSG and Marseille who happens to be to teams tin their league now to a draw and didn't loose the game.

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Quote from: Juse14 on October 11, 2024, 03:55:16 PM

It is too early to judge that Marseille has performed poorly this season. Currently, they sit in third place in the standings with 14 points, which shows they are capable of fighting for the top spot. Great expectations, but still plenty of time for them to show that huge investment was not made in vain.

With a number of games yet to be played, Marseille should take every match as a chance to up their game. If they can keep up with the rhythm, coming in at the second spot does not seem to escape their chances as well; as a matter of fact, catching up to the top is within sight. A better judgment can be made later—let’s see how they manage the rest of the season.

Marseille are much better this season, they started the season impressively, they definitely have the potential to compete for the top of the standings. We certainly don't ignore PSG dominance, but I think Marseille are at least able to put pressure on and make the competition for the Ligue 1 trophy more exciting. Marseille are currently 5 points behind AS Monaco who are currently at the top of the standings, there is still a chance to reduce the points gap in the next matches. With full focus on domestic competition, De Zerbi seems to be able to make Marseille finish in the Champions League zone, expectations have increased since he took over as manager. If Marseille manages to recruit Pogba in the January transfer window, as is rumored, their strength to become a trophy challenger will be even more taken into account.

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Quote from: wmaurik on October 11, 2024, 10:09:02 AM

This season Marseille can still be relied on and are expected to be a title contender because Marseille still has enough strength to make that happen so I also don't think Marseille will have any trouble when playing at Montpellier's home in the upcoming match. Besides that Montpellier themselves are also not strong enough this season and that has been clearly seen when Montpellier were defeated by Reims and now Montpellier are in a very bad position in the Ligue 1 standings.

Marseille gets a low ranked opponent in the next match where Montpellier is not a strong team because they are in the relegation zone. To bet on this match I think we can choose Marseille to be the winner because in terms of strength of course Marseille is stronger. Even so, predictions are not always right because I am sure Montpellier will try hard to win in front of their supporters.

For Marseille where they in the last two matches also did not go well because they were held to a draw by Angers and defeated by Strasbourg. So in the next match De Zerbi must be able to stop their bad streak by winning, he must be able to revive the team to the winning track if he wants to bring the team to compete closely with PSG and Monaco who are above their ranking.

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This season Marseille can still be relied on and are expected to be a title contender because Marseille still has enough strength to make that happen so I also don't think Marseille will have any trouble when playing at Montpellier's home in the upcoming match. Besides that Montpellier themselves are also not strong enough this season and that has been clearly seen when Montpellier were defeated by Reims and now Montpellier are in a very bad position in the Ligue 1 standings.

Compared to Marseille, I think Monaco is more worthy of being called a title contender. PSG realizes that, but also does not underestimate Marseille's abilities this season. Marseille is currently behind PSG with a gap of 3 points, while Marseille has a gap of 5 points with Monaco who is currently at the top of the standings.

In the first 7 matches, Monaco proved to us that they are a good team. Their defense is strong with only conceding 4 goals in 7 matches, while they also have pretty good goal statistics. Monaco scored an average of 2 goals in 7 Ligue 1 matches so far, meaning they have scored 14 goals in Ligue 1 until week 7. Compared to PSG, Monaco's defense is stronger so far.

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Marseille last end ended against Angers in a draw that shouldn't be so as Marseille dominated the game and they were supposed to win. The had a possession of over 70% while Angers were just defending and that was what saved them in that game. Marseille has been decent this season and they're now third on the table, just behind Monaco and PSG. They still have a chance to close the gap by winning their game against Montpellier after the international break. That game isn't going to be tough for Marseille as they have very good record against Montpellier. The season is just beginning so I can't say for sure if Marseille is going to be in the title race but they're playing as a team that wants to win.

They have won 4 times, drawn 2 times and lost 1 time from the 7 matches they have played, in my opinion that is not a bad record, but they should have achieved more than that, especially when facing teams that are on paper weaker than them, one of which was when they faced Angers. They have collected 14 points at the moment, 3 points behind Paris Saint Germain and 5 points behind the leaders, Monaco. I think that is not too far away, as long as they can get 3 points consistently. Marseille has the capital to do that, it's just that they have to execute it well. They also have a long history in Ligue 1, they have to be able to return to how they used to be, that should be a motivation for them.

When expectations are high, even those results are terrible to fans, Marseille spent way too much money for these results and they were promising much better season than last season which they ended up not showing so far, and this is a problem they are facing at the moment.

I believe they are going to get better with time but we are not going to have any easy time neither, we are going to face some issues without a doubt. So Marseille needs to finish at least second, there is no other position in the league which would be acceptable, not after spending this much money and promising so much. If they fail then they are going to have some financial issues, French teams are not as rich as people think, they may bankrupt like Lyon.

It is too early to judge that Marseille has performed poorly this season. Currently, they sit in third place in the standings with 14 points, which shows they are capable of fighting for the top spot. Great expectations, but still plenty of time for them to show that huge investment was not made in vain.

With a number of games yet to be played, Marseille should take every match as a chance to up their game. If they can keep up with the rhythm, coming in at the second spot does not seem to escape their chances as well; as a matter of fact, catching up to the top is within sight. A better judgment can be made later—let’s see how they manage the rest of the season.

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Oh, I have just noticed Reims in the standings. Grin

They are at the fourth place? I didn't even know they were performing that good so far. Maybe they will be this season's Brest. Tongue

The thing I remember about them was the Will Still era. He was doing pretty good at first for a person who didn't have any manager experience before. You know his story related to Football Manager and so on.

But things started to go sideways and he left his job. However it seems like they have put things on the right track again. But they seem horrible in defense. Conceding 10 goals... It can cause them to lose their form easily. Do you think we would see them in top four at the end?

But, it seems that so far Reims can maximize good results when Reims plays against teams that are basically not part of the top teams in Ligue 1, so Reims managed to get full points in the match. Meanwhile, when Reims played against top teams like PSG and Marseille in fact Reims only got a draw, although at the beginning of this season Reims lost against Lille but these results did not make Reims desperate. Because with the defeat at the beginning of the season it seems to make Reims get better but even though so far Reims has good results, I personally don't believe Reims will finish in the top four,because in reality Reims is a team that more often finishes in the middle of the standings.

Reims could have performed better if they had improved their defense. In the 7 matches that Reims have played, all of their opponents have managed to score. Reims have scored 14 goals but conceded 10.
Reims do tend to be unstable. But in these early matches, they have performed quite well. It's just that if they can improve their performance, especially in defense. Maybe Reims has a chance to finish in the top 4 of the standings this season.

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Marseille last end ended against Angers in a draw that shouldn't be so as Marseille dominated the game and they were supposed to win. The had a possession of over 70% while Angers were just defending and that was what saved them in that game. Marseille has been decent this season and they're now third on the table, just behind Monaco and PSG. They still have a chance to close the gap by winning their game against Montpellier after the international break. That game isn't going to be tough for Marseille as they have very good record against Montpellier. The season is just beginning so I can't say for sure if Marseille is going to be in the title race but they're playing as a team that wants to win.

They have won 4 times, drawn 2 times and lost 1 time from the 7 matches they have played, in my opinion that is not a bad record, but they should have achieved more than that, especially when facing teams that are on paper weaker than them, one of which was when they faced Angers. They have collected 14 points at the moment, 3 points behind Paris Saint Germain and 5 points behind the leaders, Monaco. I think that is not too far away, as long as they can get 3 points consistently. Marseille has the capital to do that, it's just that they have to execute it well. They also have a long history in Ligue 1, they have to be able to return to how they used to be, that should be a motivation for them.

When expectations are high, even those results are terrible to fans, Marseille spent way too much money for these results and they were promising much better season than last season which they ended up not showing so far, and this is a problem they are facing at the moment.

I believe they are going to get better with time but we are not going to have any easy time neither, we are going to face some issues without a doubt. So Marseille needs to finish at least second, there is no other position in the league which would be acceptable, not after spending this much money and promising so much. If they fail then they are going to have some financial issues, French teams are not as rich as people think, they may bankrupt like Lyon.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on October 11, 2024, 12:23:31 PM

Oh, I have just noticed Reims in the standings. Grin

They are at the fourth place? I didn't even know they were performing that good so far. Maybe they will be this season's Brest. Tongue

The thing I remember about them was the Will Still era. He was doing pretty good at first for a person who didn't have any manager experience before. You know his story related to Football Manager and so on.

But things started to go sideways and he left his job. However it seems like they have put things on the right track again. But they seem horrible in defense. Conceding 10 goals... It can cause them to lose their form easily. Do you think we would see them in top four at the end?

But, it seems that so far Reims can maximize good results when Reims plays against teams that are basically not part of the top teams in Ligue 1, so Reims managed to get full points in the match. Meanwhile, when Reims played against top teams like PSG and Marseille in fact Reims only got a draw, although at the beginning of this season Reims lost against Lille but these results did not make Reims desperate. Because with the defeat at the beginning of the season it seems to make Reims get better but even though so far Reims has good results, I personally don't believe Reims will finish in the top four,because in reality Reims is a team that more often finishes in the middle of the standings.

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This season Marseille can still be relied on and are expected to be a title contender because Marseille still has enough strength to make that happen so I also don't think Marseille will have any trouble when playing at Montpellier's home in the upcoming match. Besides that Montpellier themselves are also not strong enough this season and that has been clearly seen when Montpellier were defeated by Reims and now Montpellier are in a very bad position in the Ligue 1 standings.

IMO, it is still not enough for Marseille to be a title contender to overthrow Paris Saint-Germain's dominance. De Zerbi still needs some ammunition to deepen and strengthen his team, especially in Marsille's attack line. So far, Marseille does not have a striker who is consistent in terms of scoring goals. As for their young striker, Elye Wahi has not shown good performance in his 6 matches and has only scored 1 goal. Neal Maupay, a striker on loan from Everton has only been able to score 1 goal in his 5 matches. These two pure strikers are less impressive than Greenwood with 5 goals, Luis Hendrique with 3 goals. Both of these players, play on the wings. The match against Montpellier, theoretically Marseille should be able to do their job well, getting full points even though it is an away game. Moreover, as we know, Montpellier is the second team in the relegation zone and they are the team that has conceded the most goals throughout Montpellier's 7 matches in this competition.

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They have won 4 times, drawn 2 times and lost 1 time from the 7 matches they have played, in my opinion that is not a bad record, but they should have achieved more than that, especially when facing teams that are on paper weaker than them, one of which was when they faced Angers. They have collected 14 points at the moment, 3 points behind Paris Saint Germain and 5 points behind the leaders, Monaco. I think that is not too far away, as long as they can get 3 points consistently. Marseille has the capital to do that, it's just that they have to execute it well. They also have a long history in Ligue 1, they have to be able to return to how they used to be, that should be a motivation for them.

Marseille might be overvalued. Now this doesn't mean they shouldn't have won their last game, but it means that Marseille from today is not what they once used to be. The last title they won was in 2010! I know that back then they have been taken more seriously, but since then a lot has changed due to the rise of PSG. Yes at times there is an exceptional situation and someone else wins it, but usually it is all about PSG. Then you have got Monaco and then a few positions further down there is Marseille. But it is a huge difference if there are teams that are worth three times as much as all other teams. But if you take a team with say 300m in value and they play against teams that are around 200m in value, that is not as much a difference. I see Marseille as a top four team, but not as a title contender.

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Marseille isn't really a great team to begin with, look at where they finished last season and I believe we are going to end up with a ton more trouble than reality and we should consider what we can do for the long term. I believe the best thing we can do with this right now would be making sure we bet carefully with them, because we can bet on them to win against a simpler team and they could still disappoint, seems like this is the case so far this season. They won 4 games, but failed to win three games, and this means even if you bet on all their games, those four wins wouldn't cover for the other three fails.

PSG on the other hand looks even worse, if you bet on all their games, we would be in even bigger trouble, in fact you would probably be in profit if you bet against PSG so far, this is a trouble and I believe PSG needs to do a lot better if they want to win, or at least they need to do better so I can win my bets and get some money thanks to them Cheesy

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Oh, I have just noticed Reims in the standings. Grin

They are at the fourth place? I didn't even know they were performing that good so far. Maybe they will be this season's Brest. Tongue

Reims have been of the most outstanding teams in the French league this season and that has been surprising to many because very few persons would've predicted that after 7 games, they'll be having 14 points and occupy the 4th position in the league table. The problem now is you ask me is if they'll continue with their impressive form till the end of the season or they'll later start to struggle to win matches

Reims this season has played against two strong teams in league 1, PSG and Marseille. As a result, they were able to hold a draw, it can be said that it is very positive as a mid-table club they can be a barrier to strong clubs and the league looks more competitive. It's just that their defense needs improvement which has so far conceded 10 goals from 7 matches. In the standings they have the same points as Marseille to be able to shift that position they can, the most important thing is as you said to maintain consistency. And because this is still early in the season all changes will happen in front of us, just enjoy their performance until the end of the season and where they will be at that time.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on October 11, 2024, 04:46:52 AM

Marseille is one the oldest teams in France and they are usually on the top side of the table even in the past years. I remember when Lyon was stronger in French Leageu one we had two teams racing for the title Marseille and Lyon and the game between these two teams was interesting to watch for people. Now Lyon is not strong anymore and they are not in the good form but still, Marseille has the good form they had before and they are having a good performance.
I think Marseille can easily beat Montpellier and if they do that, they can keep themself at the top of the table yet.

Honestly, every season, Marseille have always been in good form, despite some seasons where they don't make it to the top four and qualify for the Champions League. However, people always notice their good form almost every season. This season again, they have started well, because out of the seven matches played in the Ligue competition, they have managed to win four, draw two, and lose one. That shows they are in good form, and with this current performance, if they can continue, it is very possible for Marseille to end the season in the top four.

For the upcoming match of Marseille against Montpellier, I expect the match to be easy for Marseille, and for them to win the full three points because Montpellier's performance this season has been weak. Montpellier have only managed to win one match and have lost five. That is really poor form, and I can't say I'm expecting much from them against Marseille. Marseille have everything needed to win the game, and I expect that from them.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on October 11, 2024, 12:23:31 PM

Oh, I have just noticed Reims in the standings. Grin

They are at the fourth place? I didn't even know they were performing that good so far. Maybe they will be this season's Brest. Tongue

Reims have been of the most outstanding teams in the French league this season and that has been surprising to many because very few persons would've predicted that after 7 games, they'll be having 14 points and occupy the 4th position in the league table. The problem now is you ask me is if they'll continue with their impressive form till the end of the season or they'll later start to struggle to win matches

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Oh, I have just noticed Reims in the standings. Grin

They are at the fourth place? I didn't even know they were performing that good so far. Maybe they will be this season's Brest. Tongue

The thing I remember about them was the Will Still era. He was doing pretty good at first for a person who didn't have any manager experience before. You know his story related to Football Manager and so on.

But things started to go sideways and he left his job. However it seems like they have put things on the right track again. But they seem horrible in defense. Conceding 10 goals... It can cause them to lose their form easily. Do you think we would see them in top four at the end?

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