Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread - page 221.

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Quote from: Xcode7 on September 23, 2024, 06:04:19 AM

Dortmund has not found its best performance and many people are talking too much about the positive results they achieved in several previous matches so that finally this week's defeat with a fairly big score occurred, there is no reason for this defeat because Dortmund deserved to lose, they played very badly.
Nuri Şahin must immediately improve, what he has done so far has not shown the best performance for the Dortmund team.

And for Stuttgart I think it also does not prove anything because of this victory, so far Stuttgart has indeed been a strong team but they have not been able to maintain the consistency of their performance.

It was a disappointing defeat for Dortmund at the hands of Stuttgart. Even though they would have lost the match on the basis of playing away, the number of goals they conceded does not speak of team that came to win the trophy. One would have thought that Dortmund would do very well base on their last season great outing at the Champions league. Just not encouraging how they allow Stuttgart and Bayern Leverkusen to pass them in ratings.

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Quote from: GiftedMAN on September 23, 2024, 11:43:55 AM

So far this season Bayern Munich is having a better performance unlike the last season where they were trashed by Bayer Leverkusen who ended their performance in the league and took the trophy out of their hands. Right now if we should pick the possible winner of the game between Bayern Munich and their rivals Bayer Leverkusen I think both teams are playing well but Munich team looks more solid than Leverkusen this season and their winning mentality has increased to the point that they keep increasing their performance and scoring goals in every match. Without sentiment Bayern Munich should win if they do not make mistakes because Bayer Leverkusen will always utilize any given opportunity to score goals even though they are given 50 seconds of extra time.

The winner will be decided by the team that is able to convert their chances since both teams are a goal scoring teams.

Last season the first leg of this fixture was full with drama with both team actually drawing the game and the reserve fixture was then won by Bayer Leverkusen, seriously that last season we all saw how superior Bayer Leverkusen was going into each match but that’s isn’t the case now, even with them been 3 points behind Bayern Munich I think they are still equal in terms of quality so far. I expect the game to even come way late than this like when like 15 matches would have been played as it will be intense then when the both clubs might have been close to each other and the season already ending its first phase.

But still it’s not bad having the contenders just this early to set the league tone, the pressure will be on Bayer Leverkusen after they dropped points earlier, losing and allowing Bayern going 6 points ahead will be a very big difference, so I expect them to play under pressure and that’s why I will be going for a Bayern Win or draw.

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This match will be the match that we will use to examine the quality of both teams and who is better than the other because they are both strong teams and rivals.

Leverkusen isn't a match for Bayern in their current form, so unless a miracle happens, I don't see the chances of them toppling the big steppers and taking their position. Bayern, the team of the top bundesliga table has much more goal difference than anyone else and that's point 1 proven.

Nevertheless, i see the coming match to be a tough one as everyone is prepared to win. We all know the capability of each of these teams but, who knows?

You cannot rule out Leverkusen in this matche because we haven't seen the best of Bayern Munich playing with strong teams. All the clubs that Bayern Munich have won are all weak clybs compared to the level at which Bayern Munich is in Bundesliga. Kompany managerial skills will be tested on that day.

Kompany was able to improve the team's performance when he took over as manager but that doesn't mean that it is a guarantee that Bayern Munich will win Leverkusen by weekend since Leverkusen is still in form. Don't underestimate Xabi Alonso.

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Quote from: Frankolala on September 23, 2024, 11:35:12 AM

This match will be the match that we will use to examine the quality of both teams and who is better than the other because they are both strong teams and rivals.

Leverkusen isn't a match for Bayern in their current form, so unless a miracle happens, I don't see the chances of them toppling the big steppers and taking their position. Bayern, the team of the top bundesliga table has much more goal difference than anyone else and that's point 1 proven.

Nevertheless, i see the coming match to be a tough one as everyone is prepared to win. We all know the capability of each of these teams but, who knows?

Quote from: GiftedMAN on September 23, 2024, 11:43:55 AM

So far this season Bayern Munich is having a better performance unlike the last season where they were trashed by Bayer Leverkusen who ended their performance in the league and took the trophy out of their hands.

They're trying so hard to not let that happen again this time around... The monopoly has been broken a few times, although breaking through isn't for any sub-divisional team.

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But I didn't find Leverkusen that strong in this match, but I had a misunderstanding. Leverkusen proved to be good and strong in this match and Bayern Munich are considered in this league but I will still put Leverkusen ahead because they scored 3 goals in the whole match and Bayern Munich didn't see a single goal.

At the moment I'm realistic, there are a lot of chances for both teams. Bayern Munich will try to win to stay at the top and Leverkusen I think will work hard. Bayern Munich's advantage is that they are at home, their mental condition is also good. Leverkusen I think it's the same, but the record of always winning has been broken. The current condition is quite different from last season. I'm a little more confident Munich can surprise. The facts of Munich players statistically look better. It was a big game and Kompany's first test for a big game. His ability will be seen from the results of this match.

So far this season Bayern Munich is having a better performance unlike the last season where they were trashed by Bayer Leverkusen who ended their performance in the league and took the trophy out of their hands. Right now if we should pick the possible winner of the game between Bayern Munich and their rivals Bayer Leverkusen I think both teams are playing well but Munich team looks more solid than Leverkusen this season and their winning mentality has increased to the point that they keep increasing their performance and scoring goals in every match. Without sentiment Bayern Munich should win if they do not make mistakes because Bayer Leverkusen will always utilize any given opportunity to score goals even though they are given 50 seconds of extra time.

The winner will be decided by the team that is able to convert their chances since both teams are a goal scoring teams.

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Quote from: tusandii on September 22, 2024, 10:58:44 PM

Two matches that thwarted my bets were the Dortmund vs Stuttgart and Leipzig vs St. Pauli matches, initially I was hesitant to bet on Dortmund because they were away to Stuttgart's home base but because I saw Stuttgart's recent inconsistent performance I thought Dortmund would beat them or at least get 1 point in this match but it turned out that Stuttgart performed extraordinarily by scoring more than 3 goals against Dortmund, which was beyond my prediction even though I knew Dortmund's defense was quite strong, I think they need to improve their careless defense.

And for Leipzig I thought they would be able to beat the promoted club but it turned out that Leipzig couldn't do anything and even failed to score a goal so there was nothing interesting in this match because both teams only got a goalless draw.

You are lucky in the sense that in one multi-bet you have exhausted 2 incorrect outcomes at once (maybe the pendulum will swing in the other direction). The only unexpected result here is the goalless draw between Leipzig and St. Pauli. Let's say I can believe that Leipzig can lose points even against obvious outsiders, but 0-0 for the Bundesliga against the backdrop of phenomenal average performance is nonsense.

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Yes this match will be a discussion next week a fight between 2 favorite teams to win the title, almost all of us agree that Bayern Munich has a greater chance of winning the match, apart from playing at home they are also very consistent since the beginning of the season instead Leverkusen cannot be called consistent because of their defeat against Leipzig. However, we have no reason to underestimate Leverkusen and we still remember Leverkusen was the winner of the league last season with a perfect record.

I really do not see Bayern Munich to be favorites over Bayer Leverkusen in this match considering what played out last season, moreover the Leverkusen side are not doing really badly this season except for the fact that they lost against leipzig and ever since they have been consistent in winning almost all their matches including their champions league match.

Bayern Munich on the other hand have been enjoying a winning streak so far this season and haven't lost yet and seem ready to contend for the title this season but would have to steal all 3 points from the Leverkusen side which also seem to be a very tedious task for Bayern Munich based on how resilient Xabi Alonso's side have been all the way from the previous season even up to this season.

This game will be among the most eagerly awaited by football fans, given both teams' performances this season. Bayern Munich has once again shown their might with a seamless game; in fact, they have gone back to being termed as a slaying team. Win after win placed them at the top of the table, all set to battle for the Bundesliga crown. However, Bayer Leverkusen is not to be underrated. While they had a lukewarm start to the season, they crept up surreptitiously and are now stationed at number two, a clear indicator that they mean business. This makes it difficult to predict whether either toughness or consistency prevails in Xabi Alonso's team; hence, making this game even harder than before! The victor in this game will consolidate his place at the top; therefore, competition in Bundesliga will be even more intense.

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Leverkusen are not as strong as last season but they have a chance to compete with Bayern Munich this season. The upcoming match will pit both of them against each other and I think it is difficult to predict who will win the match.

Agree.
Leverkusen's performance at the start of this season is still not up to expectations, Conceding nine goals after four games is too much.
But I'm sure Alonso can learn a lot, analyze it, and fix it, in time they will be ready for the top two games, against Bayern in the Bundesliga and Milan in the UCL.

BTW, Jonathan Tah and Edmond Tapsoba can't survive in aerial duels and Nathan Tella looks like he has to play against Bayern.

Last season Leverkusen performed very perfectly unbeaten and they were able to end the season as a team with a few concedes, but after being able to maintain a 35-game unbeaten run in the league but in begin this season they must to end that positive trend at the hands of Leipzig, although they failed to maintain an unbeaten record but I think Leverkusen is still the favorite team as a title contender this season.
The match against Bayern Munich next week will be a test of consistency for Leverkusen and also the first test for Kompany by facing a strong team in the Bundesliga, I think the match will be a game full of revenge from Munich after in the last few games Munich failed to beat Leverkusen, although the result of the match will not affect their chances of get trophy because a still long season, but of course victory will be very important in order to improve the mentality of the two teams later.

This match will be the match that we will use to examine the quality of both teams and who is better than the other because they are both strong teams and rivals.

So far, Bayern Munich have won all their four matches with 12 points, and Leverkusen only lost one match and won three making them to be on 9 points and second on the table. It will be a fierce match and if Munich wins the match they wil increase the point gap between them an Leverkusen. On the other hand, if Leverkusen wins they will be on the same point.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on September 23, 2024, 01:35:42 AM

Yes this match will be a discussion next week a fight between 2 favorite teams to win the title, almost all of us agree that Bayern Munich has a greater chance of winning the match, apart from playing at home they are also very consistent since the beginning of the season instead Leverkusen cannot be called consistent because of their defeat against Leipzig. However, we have no reason to underestimate Leverkusen and we still remember Leverkusen was the winner of the league last season with a perfect record.

I really do not see Bayern Munich to be favorites over Bayer Leverkusen in this match considering what played out last season, moreover the Leverkusen side are not doing really badly this season except for the fact that they lost against leipzig and ever since they have been consistent in winning almost all their matches including their champions league match.

Bayern Munich on the other hand have been enjoying a winning streak so far this season and haven't lost yet and seem ready to contend for the title this season but would have to steal all 3 points from the Leverkusen side which also seem to be a very tedious task for Bayern Munich based on how resilient Xabi Alonso's side have been all the way from the previous season even up to this season.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on September 22, 2024, 09:27:38 AM

As we know about how extraordinary Xabi Alonso's squad was last season, but now they are quite far behind in terms of points, but that doesn't mean Leverkusen will make the match easy for Bayern Munich, they are still a strong team in the competition, meaning I can't be sure who will get full points in this match, and the point is we will find out who is stronger. But overall the advantage is in Bayern Munich's camp because they will play at home in this match.

If Alonso had the squad like Manchester City or Real Madrid, he wouldn’t have faced any kind of problems and could have done much better.
With the squad that he had in the last season, nobody expected him to win the league But he still ended up winning the Bundesliga title, right?

Yes, I can't deny that the start of this season has not been the best. But it also has not been so bad that we need to start criticizing him already, right? We have to understand that his tactics are well-known by the other clubs and coaches already. So it is obviously going to be hard for him to replicate the same level of performance that he did in the last season.

After winning against Wolfsburg, Ex-Arsenal star Xhaka criticized "We can't concede 3 goals every game"
Xabi Alonso responded to Granit Xhaka's criticism that the squad must improve their defensive side following their 4-3 win over Wolfsburg.
So Alonso is confident enough to go against Bayern Munich, though Vincent Kompany won all of their 4 matches, I will pick Leverkusen in this match @3.95 odds.

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The surprise result of the day was Stuttgart beating Dortmund 5-1 at home. I don't think anyone expected such a difference, and after Stuttgart's loss to Real earlier in the week, we might have expected them to be in low spirits.

Stuttgart was one of the best teams in the German Bundesliga last season so it's understandable that they defeated Borussia Dortmund in their over the weekend but what was actually surprising about the result of the goal margin that Stuttgart used in beating the last season UCL finalists. MHP Arena has always been a fortress for Stuttgart and I don't think they'll ever want to allow themselves to beaten at home by other teams.

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But I didn't find Leverkusen that strong in this match, but I had a misunderstanding. Leverkusen proved to be good and strong in this match and Bayern Munich are considered in this league but I will still put Leverkusen ahead because they scored 3 goals in the whole match and Bayern Munich didn't see a single goal.

Considering the performance and results of Bayern Munich since the start of the season, I don't think it's actually ideal to compare them against Bayer Leverkusen using Bayern Munich's results of last season. Bayern Munich have easily been the best German team since the start of the season and that's why I think they'll get the better of Bayer Leverkusen when they meet each other this weekend.

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Quote from: Luzin on September 23, 2024, 09:47:10 AM

Quote from: Nanga Parbat on September 23, 2024, 09:35:07 AM

But I didn't find Leverkusen that strong in this match, but I had a misunderstanding. Leverkusen proved to be good and strong in this match and Bayern Munich are considered in this league but I will still put Leverkusen ahead because they scored 3 goals in the whole match and Bayern Munich didn't see a single goal.

At the moment I'm realistic, there are a lot of chances for both teams. Bayern Munich will try to win to stay at the top and Leverkusen I think will work hard. Bayern Munich's advantage is that they are at home, their mental condition is also good. Leverkusen I think it's the same, but the record of always winning has been broken. The current condition is quite different from last season. I'm a little more confident Munich can surprise. The facts of Munich players statistically look better. It was a big game and Kompany's first test for a big game. His ability will be seen from the results of this match.

Yes, I agree both teams have the same chance. Their first meeting this season is what we are waiting for, this will be a tactical battle for both coaches. And so far Munich looks more consistent and even their goal productivity is extraordinary in their last 2 matches, Kompany's troops are much more prepared in this match, on the other hand Alonso's team still has shortcomings in the defense line he has not been able to fix it they have conceded 9 goals Leverkusen must work harder in this match. Reflecting on all this I am more favoring Munich to win.

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Quote from: Jossque on September 22, 2024, 02:12:17 PM

The surprise result of the day was Stuttgart beating Dortmund 5-1 at home. I don't think anyone expected such a difference, and after Stuttgart's loss to Real earlier in the week, we might have expected them to be in low spirits.

Nothing surprised me from Stuttgart beating Dortmund 5-1. It's all Nuri's fault for experimenting with his squad. And i hate him. I hate the way he was experimenting with his squad. This was because he was playing his players not in their actual positions.

It's very weird to see him put Sclotterbeck at LB, Sabitzer at RW/RM with Beier, and Gittens on the bench. That's insane. It feels like he is trying to be "tactical geniuses" with his weird formation.

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Quote from: Inwestour on September 23, 2024, 04:47:13 AM

This is how Bayern's rivals are gradually losing points, and if Bayer loses at the Allianz Arena on Saturday, Bayern will be able to get a very good lead over all their main rivals, and rivals like Freiburg and Eintracht, I think, will eventually fall lower in the table. Bayer lost to Leipzig at home, barely beat Wolfsborg yesterday, it seems to me that Bayern should beat such a Bayer and continue their winning streak. Of course, even a draw would be quite an acceptable result for them, but it seems to me that Bayern is now capable of beating any rival.

It's been a whole lot of anticipations as to what we should be expecting from Saturday games, and that has been why the conversation about this has not persisted as everyone has been really discussing about this rivals because they have been of awesome performance this season but I still think that if Bayer loose that game, it's not all that will determine how well they are going to perform through our the season because beyond this game are other games they will be playing so they literally still have a chance and if like last session they loose only this and win every other games, they are most likely to stay ahead especially if Bayern Munich do not stay consistent with their winning and maintaining a win with other games.

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Quote from: ginsan on September 23, 2024, 09:04:51 AM

Stuttgart seems to want to tell that they will still surprise this season just like before and the decision to sell Guirassy to Dortmund who was one of the key players in Stuttgart last season does not make them a bad club in terms of productivity. I don't think anyone would have expected a score like this to happen even though I also didn't bet here because i knew that both situations were still tired after playing the Champions League but i also didn't feel that the score would be this big because my initial prediction was a draw or playing with a thin advantage but the opposite happened.

The first half of Dortmund was completely destroyed where they seemed to lose confidence in controlling the ball which in the end the Stuttgart players were quite free in developing the game including creating opportunities that could be converted into goals because of 2 quick goals in the 20 minutes of the first half.

What happened in the Dortmund match was a reflection of regression, being slaughtered by Stuttgart was far from what I expected. Although indeed Stuttgart seemed to vent their bad results in the UCL to Dortmund. Actually, even the first half was enough to explain that there was no need to continue to the second half. The mentality of the Dortmund players had fallen, the single goal that was created would not change anything so Stuttgart just played relaxed in the second half because they knew their lead would be difficult to catch by Dortmund.

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Quote from: Nanga Parbat on September 23, 2024, 09:35:07 AM

But I didn't find Leverkusen that strong in this match, but I had a misunderstanding. Leverkusen proved to be good and strong in this match and Bayern Munich are considered in this league but I will still put Leverkusen ahead because they scored 3 goals in the whole match and Bayern Munich didn't see a single goal.

At the moment I'm realistic, there are a lot of chances for both teams. Bayern Munich will try to win to stay at the top and Leverkusen I think will work hard. Bayern Munich's advantage is that they are at home, their mental condition is also good. Leverkusen I think it's the same, but the record of always winning has been broken. The current condition is quite different from last season. I'm a little more confident Munich can surprise. The facts of Munich players statistically look better. It was a big game and Kompany's first test for a big game. His ability will be seen from the results of this match.

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Quote from: Xcode7 on September 23, 2024, 06:04:19 AM

Dortmund has not found its best performance and many people are talking too much about the positive results they achieved in several previous matches so that finally this week's defeat with a fairly big score occurred, there is no reason for this defeat because Dortmund deserved to lose, they played very badly.
Nuri Şahin must immediately improve, what he has done so far has not shown the best performance for the Dortmund team.

And for Stuttgart I think it also does not prove anything because of this victory, so far Stuttgart has indeed been a strong team but they have not been able to maintain the consistency of their performance.

A team as big as Dortmund, even though they haven't found their best game, they shouldn't lose with a score like that, it's questionable why Dortmund is like that this season. I actually feel Dortmund is worse than last year, in this match they fired two shots on goal throughout the match. Even though Stuttgart is not the first ranked team, or even the top five ranked team, how will Dortmund be when they play against strong teams in the Bundesliga.

Nuri Sahin not only has to improve himself immediately but he also has to be given pressure from the club if he doesn't improve his team immediately he will be fired. Because Dortmund's biggest problem is that they can't handle the pressure, they don't have an answer and give up easily. Then they lose confidence and Dortmund's defense line is very bad in this match, they let the opposing players always have full freedom in the penalty area.

So I think Dortmund should give a warning to their coach to improve himself immediately if he doesn't change immediately he will be fired immediately. Because Dortmund needs a coach who dares to make decisions and can make his players not give up easily.

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Quote from: Docnaster on September 22, 2024, 05:51:53 PM

The Bayern Munich vs Bayer Leverkusen game that'll be played on Saturday will be a very interesting game to watch for fans if both clubs as well as neutrals. Last season, we saw how Bayer Leverkusen dominated the league and went on to win the league without conceding a defeat in the entire season - a record that no German club have ever matched while this season, Bayern Munich have been the best team in the league and have won all league games they've played so far. So the game will be a big test for both teams in their quest to know who's better than each other at the moment

This match was really very interesting and tough and it was difficult for both teams to win because both teams were strong at that time. It was their hard work and because of that they won this league. If any team works hard and plays with the intention of winning the match and puts all their effort into it, then that team definitely wins the match and that includes Leverkusen. were And in this match too, we got to see the same performance and hard work. Yes, I have seen and heard the performance of Bayern Munich, but they lost to Leverkusen in this league as well. But I didn't find Leverkusen that strong in this match, but I had a misunderstanding. Leverkusen proved to be good and strong in this match and Bayern Munich are considered in this league but I will still put Leverkusen ahead because they scored 3 goals in the whole match and Bayern Munich didn't see a single goal.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on September 23, 2024, 01:35:42 AM

By the way, I saw something surprising in yesterday's match when Stuttgart beat Dortmund with a score of 5-1 really this is beyond our expectations because we expect a fierce match, unfortunately Dortmund could not do anything until this embarrassing defeat happened. Usually Dortmund as one of the teams that has the best defense but a fast goal from Stuttgart in the 4th minute can disrupt Dortmund's defense also disrupts their concentration. Now Dortmund has to get out of the top 5 and they have to catch up in the near future.

Stuttgart seems to want to tell that they will still surprise this season just like before and the decision to sell Guirassy to Dortmund who was one of the key players in Stuttgart last season does not make them a bad club in terms of productivity. I don't think anyone would have expected a score like this to happen even though I also didn't bet here because i knew that both situations were still tired after playing the Champions League but i also didn't feel that the score would be this big because my initial prediction was a draw or playing with a thin advantage but the opposite happened.

The first half of Dortmund was completely destroyed where they seemed to lose confidence in controlling the ball which in the end the Stuttgart players were quite free in developing the game including creating opportunities that could be converted into goals because of 2 quick goals in the 20 minutes of the first half.

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Quote from: Obari on September 23, 2024, 07:02:28 AM

Stuttgart was prepared for everything and directed every atom of energy towards the visitors, .
It's still amazing to me, Borrusia Dortmund conceded 5 goals is definitely unacceptable and it's their first defeats of the 2024/2025 Bundesliga season.

I was smiling when i readed that with the atom of energy as it really describes it how that match was between Stuttgart against Dortmund.
Looks like that Stuttgart has done there homework and played very good and 5 Goals is a huge number.
There are no excuses for Dortmund , but hopefully they learned something from that defeat and making it better next weekend on friday against Bochum..

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