Topic: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Manufacturer Trustworthiness Guide [1st Feb 2016] - page 18. (Read 131506 times)

Interesting you equate my guide to a copy of your guide.

Laughable.

The biggest difference is I admit bias.

Caveat Emptor. Do your own reviews people and listen to past customers over this guide. You will be better off.

In general, I believe you're doing a decent job with the guide.
Regarding our score, we're currently selling from stock all our products line. It seems to me a bit unfair and last minute change of your scoring criteria.

We've been though this so many times... Show me an ethics score modifier that I can actually apply to BA.



Apart from they're delivering Apollo and Ares orders absolutely fine, and there are ZERO reports of the Zeus being 'dodgy'. If you're absolutely 100% sure its a scam, then I'll take you up on a 10 to 0 escrowed btc bet. If their Zeus boards are even remotely close to as they claim, I get 10btc. If not, you get an I told you so. ....Which will happen right, because you're 100% sure?

If you're not, then you shouldn't be flaming me for not marking a company a scam which has ZERO reports from CUSTOMERS about Zeus boards being bad.

You mean like you already did

One should always err on the side of the consumer given the issues. Unfortunately when people take coin for review purposes that puts in question the reliability of any guide. At this point if you promote more than just a few companies as reliable your rating system is a pure fantasy. Even with reputable sellers like Spondoolies, Bitmain and Asicminer there are concerns from customers. Although they unlike most others have made efforts to rectify issues. The others are just not worth your time or effort at this point. It is clear that the goal is not consumer education or support but rather to gather more "influence" and create a business around the guide and other threads. What started out as information has become a revenue stream. Maybe time to move these threads to a new paid advertorial Hardware area.

We all know the reality. There is little in mining for anyone with shallow pockets and if you ignore that fact willingly you are not helping educate the community you are helping sellers hawk wares that are never going to return on investment. Wrong focus for a guide it should be helping people make informed decisions. This one is not given the concerns of consumers and members of the community trying desperately to get this guide to work properly.

Someone should just copy paste his system and do a proper community based guide with a number of reviewers sampling community opinion. Make his version obsolete. My version is not a COPY of this because it doesn't as many others have the same rigor as say consumer reports. It is silly to think that the purpose of these reviews is anything other low level advertizing.

I've updated dogies guide rating from 5/10 down to 1/10

Why is BA 5/10 ethics even though they are several times more unethical than the current BFL? In fact I'd say they are the least ethical company still selling hardware.

It's clear as day that hashcoins is a scam.

Here's what you said in the avalon thread:


So you think it's impossible to double efficiency without changing chips, yet you don't even remotely question it when Hashcoins claims they can OVERCLOCK to unheard of levels and INCREASE efficiency?

Faking cgminer stats, threatening community with frivolous lawsuits, refusing to prove their super advanced hardware exists = ethics 10/10?

Delivering hardware to maybe 5 people max = Delivery 10/10?

PS, Black Arrow deleted my post in their moderated thread, the only company to do so.

I understand now, its okay. If you look at the abuse I get for simply updating the guide [being accused of being biased against / for every company, in both directions, simultaneously], you'll understand why updates don't always take top priority on the to do list.

Me commenting on how they were treated in a different thread has nothing to do with this thread, don't try and put words in my mouth. They have asked questions, HashCoins has replied and it will either turn out that they were falsifying x y z or they weren't. It shouldn't be up to us to persecute them as if they're guilty of some huge scam when all there is is conjecture. Neither of those two people have seen a Zeus board and so can not - to appropriate standards - provide its non existence.

As I said before, if there was a Zeus customer who turned up and said ".....fml I've been scammed" it would be a different story. But there hasn't been one, and they've been selling the Zeus for a while.

We all know your ratings are based on your own opinion, thank you for further clarifying such.  Con man and Mr. Teal are both proven experts in their respective fields.  They have both asked legitimate questions and presented convincing arguments.  Mr Teal even offered up a 100 coins (against their 100 obviously) if they could prove their claims.  The burden should be on Hashcoins to prove that Con man and Mr Teal are mistaken, not the other way around.

That would mean him sharing his bribes/payments/free mining hardware with you.....

Forget it.

what i mean is this is your project, you understand how it works, is it possible that someone could give you a hand on it?
and on that note, do you want a hand from me?

Yes, you read it wrong.