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Topic: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Manufacturer Trustworthiness Guide [1st Feb 2016] - page 27. (Read 131506 times)

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Burn the wings off those bastards.
He won't answer that as he knows perfectly well he and other at BFL lied about burn-in.

Don't forget about FCC approval. Not sure what happened with the CE markings.

Is there evidence of statements that they were seeking FCC, CE and other marks?

Since there is no evidence they ever received any certification whatsoever on any of the products they sold.

FTC would possibly be interested in that as it goes to their credibility.
legendary
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He won't answer that as he knows perfectly well he and other at BFL lied about burn-in.

Don't forget about FCC approval. Not sure what happened with the CE markings.
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
Burn the wings off those bastards.
He won't answer that as he knows perfectly well he and others at BFL lied about burn-in.
legendary
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I don't believe in denial.

Did you lie to your customers about the burn-in of miners Josh Zerlan?

Since Josh is to busy insulting people and cannot answer questions from (former-) customers let me clarify that with some testimonial evidence:

[…]DECLARATION OF S. MARSH  PURSUANT TO 28 U.S.C. § 1746
(http://ia902308.us.archive.org/32/items/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531.42.14.pdf)
[...] During my time at Butterfly Labs, I observed Bruce Peterson [aka: bcp19], the employee who
was in charge of testing the machines in the trailer attached to our office […]
legendary
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Your posts are getting really boring since they all look alike. Please try to diversify. We got that you have word manipulating skills, but let's move on!
Yeah, it's so formulaic, predicable and boring now that I just stop reading after the first insult or ad hominem.

It's sad analyzing the psychology behind Josh and seeing his defense mechanisms starting to become more... unhinged.

There's no arguing with people like that. Just gotta sit back and shake your head in mock-sadness after taking in the show.

Crap. I'm out of popcorn...

Here,have some of mine,I've got plenty,my popper is working overtime.Holler if ya need more  Wink

legendary
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Christian Antkow
Your posts are getting really boring since they all look alike. Please try to diversify. We got that you have word manipulating skills, but let's move on!
Yeah, it's so formulaic, predicable and boring now that I just stop reading after the first insult or ad hominem.

It's sad analyzing the psychology behind Josh and seeing his defense mechanisms starting to become more... unhinged.

There's no arguing with people like that. Just gotta sit back and shake your head in mock-sadness after taking in the show.

Crap. I'm out of popcorn...
sr. member
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Merit: 250

Did you lie to your customers about the burn-in of miners Josh Zerlan?
Of course he didn't lie. Sure, they burned in some, but they weren't really burning in. They were just burning in what they had to burn in. They weren't burning in to actually burn in. So that makes you the liar, doesn't it? What are you, stupid?*

*Channeling my inner Zerlan. How'm I doing?
legendary
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Christian Antkow
Why would I delete that one post and not the others?  
Are you implying that you did not delete your post, and that a moderator or admin deleted your post ? If your post was in-fact deleted by a moderator, I believe you will have notification of such in a PM. Could you kindly provide that if so ?

Would appreciate any clarifications. It's important for one to have the facts straight, would you not agree ?

*hugs and cuddles*

Excellent, thanks for admitting it.  Now we can move on.  I have no reason to answer to you, a self professed liar.  You are scum and beneath my contempt.
member
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Burn the wings off those bastards.

Did you lie to your customers about the burn-in of miners Josh Zerlan?
legendary
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Merit: 1007
Why would I delete that one post and not the others?  FFS, can you display your complete lack of critical thinking more blatantly? Can you stop and think for one second before you hit that reply button, or do you just post a stream of consciousness as it occurs to you?  Is it a compulsion?  I'm seriously trying to understand why your posts are filled with so much stupid on a regular basis.  Do you seriously not realize how idiotic you sound 99% of the time?

Your posts are getting really boring since they all look alike. Please try to diversify. We got that you have word manipulating skills, but let's move on!
legendary
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Why would I delete that one post and not the others?  FFS, can you display your complete lack of critical thinking more blatantly? Can you stop and think for one second before you hit that reply button, or do you just post a stream of consciousness as it occurs to you?  Is it a compulsion?  I'm seriously trying to understand why your posts are filled with so much stupid on a regular basis.  Do you seriously not realize how idiotic you sound 99% of the time?
legendary
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Christian Antkow
You never admitted you lied, so we have nothing to discuss.  Once you admit you lied, we can move on... until then, you are just another liar, posting false information, so why bother trying to have a conversation with you?
Ok, I lied. Now, why did you lie on the Monarch web page?
Excellent, thanks for admitting it.  Now we can move on.  I have no reason to answer to you, a self professed liar.  You are scum and beneath my contempt.
Inabohu/Josh, you should go back to Policing your own forums, Here's a link incase you forgot where it is?
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/the-monarch-discussion/8863-federal-trade-commission-v-bf-labs-inc-5.html#post86494

Curious. Josh deleted this post (assuming a mod didn't remove it)
legendary
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dogiecoin.com
Well just an FYI for doggie...to watch KNC ....they are shipping out Titan's that plain ass don't work at their advertised rate300mh er by that I mean don't work at all
reboot every 3-4 min...they CLAIM they have a fix but you can not tell such from the knc forums on bitcoin talk and their site a real mess

so for 3 weeks guys have gotten units with no way to run them....and of course no refund or compensation....and of course the 90 warranty you have
from KNC starts the day they ship it..so for some guys 3 weeks of it sitting off cuts into that as well

they also can't work on multi-pool and the author of bfgminer has not been contacted on these issues in that multi-pool is
likely that..they just went with bfgminer and did their own thing....fast coins on blocks also don't work causes a real mess as well

anyway....shipping products that have to be shut off till a firmware patch is made etc and such is probably a no/no for the listing
here...claim we are a business and DIY stuff is perfectly acceptable in that it is experimental scyrpt miner etc sheesh

anyway have not gotten my NO ROI Titan yet...but don't look too good if they are not even contacting the author for advice
on bfgminer just doing their own thing

they no longer sell any product to consumers on their page they are all arctic cloud mining now...i expect a BFL epic f*c* over

anyway just saying

Agreed.
copper member
Activity: 2898
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Clueless!
Well just an FYI for doggie...to watch KNC ....they are shipping out Titan's that plain ass don't work at their advertised rate300mh er by that I mean don't work at all
reboot every 3-4 min...they CLAIM they have a fix but you can not tell such from the knc forums on bitcoin talk and their site a real mess

so for 3 weeks guys have gotten units with no way to run them....and of course no refund or compensation....and of course the 90 warranty you have
from KNC starts the day they ship it..so for some guys 3 weeks of it sitting off cuts into that as well

they also can't work on multi-pool and the author of bfgminer has not been contacted on these issues in that multi-pool is
likely that..they just went with bfgminer and did their own thing....fast coins on blocks also don't work causes a real mess as well

anyway....shipping products that have to be shut off till a firmware patch is made etc and such is probably a no/no for the listing
here...claim we are a business and DIY stuff is perfectly acceptable in that it is experimental scyrpt miner etc sheesh

anyway have not gotten my NO ROI Titan yet...but don't look too good if they are not even contacting the author for advice
on bfgminer just doing their own thing

they no longer sell any product to consumers on their page they are all arctic cloud mining now...i expect a BFL epic f*c* over

anyway just saying

legendary
Activity: 2492
Merit: 1473
LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
You never admitted you lied, so we have nothing to discuss.  Once you admit you lied, we can move on... until then, you are just another liar, posting false information, so why bother trying to have a conversation with you?

Ok, I lied. Now, why did you lie on the Monarch web page?

Excellent, thanks for admitting it.  Now we can move on.  I have no reason to answer to you, a self professed liar.  You are scum and beneath my contempt.



You are just like goat, once you get what you want you still can't address the pressing issues. Run pussy cat whoa oh whoa a oh! Lol


 Grin
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
Still waiting for a pdf of the logs.

And I'm waiting on the excuse for this:

Just admit you were wrong or that you lied to try and make your point and you got caught (again) and we can move on.

I never mentioned the tape-out issue. Now, on to the "28nm manufacturer" issue. Your answer?

Inaba ignores anything tough.

You never admitted you lied, so we have nothing to discuss.  Once you admit you lied, we can move on... until then, you are just another liar, posting false information, so why bother trying to have a conversation with you?


Translation: "I am not going to answer your other questions until you admit you were wrong."

What a fucking pussy lol
legendary
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Christian Antkow
Inabohu/Josh, you should go back to Policing your own forums, Here's a link incase you forgot where it is?
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/the-monarch-discussion/8863-federal-trade-commission-v-bf-labs-inc-5.html#post86494
Curious. Right on cue...



EDIT: For reference, curious, given;

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[10:37 PM]   Mouth-Full-O-Earth : Josh, I have the negative bal problem
...
[10:41 PM]   polrpaul : [11:38 PM] Mouth-Full-O-Earth : Ok, I've passed that along for the devs to look at it
[10:41 PM]   polrpaul : [11:40 PM] BFL_Josh : I've passed that along for the devs to look at it
...
[10:41 PM]   polrpaul : I just thought it was peculiarly same language
...
[10:42 PM]   BFL_Josh : I think I hit hte wrong key when I was replying and it sent as him... not sure how that's possible, but it also copied his order number into my text box.


Fake customer support... that's a new low
Your $4mil at work
hero member
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StayFocus and LIVE
You never admitted you lied, so we have nothing to discuss.  Once you admit you lied, we can move on... until then, you are just another liar, posting false information, so why bother trying to have a conversation with you?

Ok, I lied. Now, why did you lie on the Monarch web page?

Excellent, thanks for admitting it.  Now we can move on.  I have no reason to answer to you, a self professed liar.  You are scum and beneath my contempt.


Inabohu/Josh, you should go back to Policing your own forums, Here's a link incase you forgot where it is?

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/the-monarch-discussion/8863-federal-trade-commission-v-bf-labs-inc-5.html#post86494
legendary
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Goonies never say die.
You never admitted you lied, so we have nothing to discuss.  Once you admit you lied, we can move on... until then, you are just another liar, posting false information, so why bother trying to have a conversation with you?

Ok, I lied. Now, why did you lie on the Monarch web page?

Excellent, thanks for admitting it.  Now we can move on.  I have no reason to answer to you, a self professed liar.  You are scum and beneath my contempt.



The essence of who Josh/Inaba is. A man of his word.  Roll Eyes

DISCLAIMER: I am obviously being sarcastic in the 2nd sentence.
legendary
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dogiecoin.com
Still waiting for a pdf of the logs.

He just said he doesn't have the ones we want.

I just compared my hardcopy to what's contained in the link. They appear to be the same.  When you say missing pages, are you referring to the "Page X of 34" part or something else?  If you are talking about the "Page XX" at the bottom of every page, I don't have those, either.  You can rest assured that anything in there would not be helpful to their case, and since I conveniently can't access the records myself, I'm also in the dark.  But thanks for pointing that out, I'll see what I can do about obtaining those.

Yes I was referring to the Page XX, so the first set of missing pages is is from page 8 to 54, then again 58 to 82 etc etc. Here's the link regarding what happened to the hard drive images once they were copied in case you need the contact info: http://ia902308.us.archive.org/32/items/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531.42.11.pdf
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