[Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Manufacturer Trustworthiness Guide [1st Feb 2016] - page 33.

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Quote from: RoadStress on September 23, 2014, 12:33:35 PM

Quote from: hdbuck on September 23, 2014, 12:28:46 PM

Quote from: RoadStress on September 23, 2014, 12:27:13 PM

Quote from: hdbuck on September 23, 2014, 09:22:55 AM

edit: oops didnt saw the prvious link but i guess we can pile them up uh? ^^

Just don't pile a lot up so that dogie misses my question again!

what question? Tongue

You only had to scroll up a bit to see it but here it goes: When will dogie update his Guide?

When its sensible. I don't like updating for one company otherwise everyone would demand immediate updates as soon as anything happens. The guide isn't designed to be that responsible.

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Quote from: hdbuck on September 23, 2014, 12:28:46 PM

Quote from: RoadStress on September 23, 2014, 12:27:13 PM

Quote from: hdbuck on September 23, 2014, 09:22:55 AM

edit: oops didnt saw the prvious link but i guess we can pile them up uh? ^^

Just don't pile a lot up so that dogie misses my question again!

what question? Tongue

You only had to scroll up a bit to see it but here it goes: When will dogie update his Guide?

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Quote from: RoadStress on September 23, 2014, 12:27:13 PM

Quote from: hdbuck on September 23, 2014, 09:22:55 AM

edit: oops didnt saw the prvious link but i guess we can pile them up uh? ^^

Just don't pile a lot up so that dogie misses my question again!

what question? Tongue

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Quote from: hdbuck on September 23, 2014, 09:22:55 AM

edit: oops didnt saw the prvious link but i guess we can pile them up uh? ^^

Just don't pile a lot up so that dogie misses my question again!

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hellooooo BFL.. aka SYSTEMATIC DECEPTION (you should create a special ranking for this title.. -1 maybe?) Grin

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/09/feds-label-bitcoin-miner-maker-butterfly-labs-as-systematic-deception/

edit: oops didnt saw the prvious link but i guess we can pile them up uh? ^^

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Quote from: Squeaker on September 16, 2014, 09:10:28 AM

Quote from: Bicknellski on September 16, 2014, 09:05:06 AM

LOL.

No debate as I said.

Enjoy the thread.

A thread that RATES EACH COMPANY INTO A LIST TOP TO BOTTOM.

Hahaha. Oh boy.

Better than wasting more time than is deserved on an unreasonable dolt with a personal axe to grind.

Enjoy your rage. o/

=squeak=

Dolt? Axe to grind?

Ya... ok buddy we can clearly just let the FTC end the debate here ok?

http://www.thewestwire.com/feds-label-bitcoin-miner-maker-butterfly-labs-as-systematic-deception/

Have you read the FTC complaint filed?

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1303730-2-main.html

Ya I was out of line. Just a personal grudge nothing to the claims at all. Read it and weep you fucking shill.

0 is the rating that is deserved. In fact, I would for the sake of those injured, just delete BFL completely. Keep the "BFL LEVEL" though as it is clear now they are deserving of the title worst in show. It doesn't surprise anyone here this has happened.

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At FTC’s Request, Court Halts Bogus Bitcoin Mining Operation

Butterfly Labs Allegedly Delayed Shipment or Failed to Deliver Paid-For Bitcoin Mining Computers, Costing Consumers Tens of Millions

FOR RELEASE

September 23, 2014

TAGS: deceptive/misleading conduct Finance Technology Bureau of Consumer Protection Consumer Protection Credit and Finance

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Quote from: dogie on September 22, 2014, 04:16:02 PM

Quote from: RoadStress on September 22, 2014, 08:40:54 AM

Quote from: friedcat on September 21, 2014, 10:56:37 PM

ASICMiner Prisma is based on a proprietary X48 design for BE200. It greatly reduces power
consumption of the device per GH/s compared to the X24 design.

Shipping date: 8th October, 2014 to 27th October, 2014

The Guide is out of date. When are you updating it?

Don't quote bits of the ratings. You're complaining that the guide is out of date, citing a post that was made 9 hours ago....

Fair enough, but you haven't answered me. When will you update the Guide?

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Quote from: jimmothy on September 23, 2014, 01:55:13 AM

Good point. 7/10 seems fair.

Although RMAs appear to be going relatively smoothly (minus a few cases), there's really no excuse for not having a ticket system. Seems it's not the norm for Chinese manufacturers.

Its their standard way of doing things, they like personal selling and personal support. So when you buy a house, you want to deal with ONE person and you have to really like that person. Doesn't matter if you like the house if you don't like the salesperson, they won't but.

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Quote from: dogie on September 23, 2014, 01:29:55 AM

Quote from: jimmothy on September 22, 2014, 11:49:08 PM

Quote from: dogie on September 22, 2014, 11:37:39 PM

Quote from: jimmothy on September 22, 2014, 11:34:16 PM

In the next update you also might want to consider changing AM's rating for communication to 10/10

From what I can tell FC/team seem pretty active resolving issues and what not.

That category is relative, and at the moment no one is getting close to ST's CEO manning the forums for 4 hours a day, and their lead software guy sitting on here as well to sort problems remotely as soon as they appear. 7/10 is actually a very good score.

I suppose if there can only be one 10/10 then SPtech would take the cake, but according to your criteria it does qualify for 10/10 IMO.

Even without ST I'd say no. There is no ticket system, there are no native english agents, support is still on CN/HK time and RMAs have to go back directly to CN/HK (sort of falls into this category). There is huge amount AM could do to improve. Plus people were complaining about not getting trackings or replies to emails for a week.

Good point. 7/10 seems fair.

Although RMAs appear to be going relatively smoothly (minus a few cases), there's really no excuse for not having a ticket system. Seems it's not the norm for Chinese manufacturers.

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Quote from: jimmothy on September 22, 2014, 11:49:08 PM

Quote from: dogie on September 22, 2014, 11:37:39 PM

Quote from: jimmothy on September 22, 2014, 11:34:16 PM

In the next update you also might want to consider changing AM's rating for communication to 10/10

From what I can tell FC/team seem pretty active resolving issues and what not.

That category is relative, and at the moment no one is getting close to ST's CEO manning the forums for 4 hours a day, and their lead software guy sitting on here as well to sort problems remotely as soon as they appear. 7/10 is actually a very good score.

I suppose if there can only be one 10/10 then SPtech would take the cake, but according to your criteria it does qualify for 10/10 IMO.

Even without ST I'd say no. There is no ticket system, there are no native english agents, support is still on CN/HK time and RMAs have to go back directly to CN/HK (sort of falls into this category). There is huge amount AM could do to improve. Plus people were complaining about not getting trackings or replies to emails for a week.

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No they are not.
They just give lame silence when anyone asks about getting the buggy stratum implementation fixed on their controller.
They should get about a 7/10 to possibly an 8/10 as they do reply on anything else asked of them.

Quote from: jimmothy on September 22, 2014, 11:34:16 PM

In the next update you also might want to consider changing AM's rating for communication to 10/10

From what I can tell FC/team seem pretty active resolving issues and what not.

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Quote from: dogie on September 22, 2014, 11:37:39 PM

Quote from: jimmothy on September 22, 2014, 11:34:16 PM

In the next update you also might want to consider changing AM's rating for communication to 10/10

From what I can tell FC/team seem pretty active resolving issues and what not.

That category is relative, and at the moment no one is getting close to ST's CEO manning the forums for 4 hours a day, and their lead software guy sitting on here as well to sort problems remotely as soon as they appear. 7/10 is actually a very good score.

I suppose if there can only be one 10/10 then SPtech would take the cake, but according to your criteria it does qualify for 10/10 IMO.

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Quote from: jimmothy on September 22, 2014, 11:34:16 PM

In the next update you also might want to consider changing AM's rating for communication to 10/10

From what I can tell FC/team seem pretty active resolving issues and what not.

That category is relative, and at the moment no one is getting close to ST's CEO manning the forums for 4 hours a day, and their lead software guy sitting on here as well to sort problems remotely as soon as they appear. 7/10 is actually a very good score.

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In the next update you also might want to consider changing AM's rating for communication to 10/10

From what I can tell FC/team seem pretty active resolving issues and what not.

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Quote from: RoadStress on September 22, 2014, 08:40:54 AM

Quote from: friedcat on September 21, 2014, 10:56:37 PM

ASICMiner Prisma is based on a proprietary X48 design for BE200. It greatly reduces power
consumption of the device per GH/s compared to the X24 design.

Shipping date: 8th October, 2014 to 27th October, 2014

The Guide is out of date. When are you updating it?

Don't quote bits of the ratings. You're complaining that the guide is out of date, citing a post that was made 9 hours ago....

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What about gawminers and zeusminer? scrypt companies should be there too.

altcoin stuff is in a different section of the forum

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Unacceptable

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Quote from: Searing on September 20, 2014, 01:33:41 AM

Quote from: dogie on September 20, 2014, 12:54:20 AM

Quote from: Inaba on September 20, 2014, 12:21:27 AM

You should check the definition of hissy fit. That's the kind of tantrum you usually throw.

Morning. Your presence is required here, and pretty much everywhere else on the internet its spread to seeing as no one at BFL actually wants to comment: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/butterfly-labs-bfl-raided-today-by-us-marshalls-91914-788886

gee thanks doggie ship him over to me....your very very mean you are! I thought we were friends doggie...(sigh)

Hi Josh miss me?

(doubtful)

Don't worry Searing,Joshy boi can't do anything to you,since you got your refund from BFL Grin

I'm just waiting to read confirmation of the "raid" somewhere,before I jump for ABSOLUTE freakin JOY!!!!!!!!!!!! I wish you ALL the bad luck in the world Joshy boi !!!!!!!! Cheesy

Here's a song for ya Josh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXysRO11Xi8

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Clueless!

Quote from: dogie on September 20, 2014, 12:54:20 AM

Quote from: Inaba on September 20, 2014, 12:21:27 AM

You should check the definition of hissy fit. That's the kind of tantrum you usually throw.

Morning. Your presence is required here, and pretty much everywhere else on the internet its spread to seeing as no one at BFL actually wants to comment: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/butterfly-labs-bfl-raided-today-by-us-marshalls-91914-788886

gee thanks doggie ship him over to me....your very very mean you are! I thought we were friends doggie...(sigh)

Hi Josh miss me?

(doubtful)

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Quote from: Inaba on September 20, 2014, 12:21:27 AM

You should check the definition of hissy fit. That's the kind of tantrum you usually throw.

Morning. Your presence is required here, and pretty much everywhere else on the internet its spread to seeing as no one at BFL actually wants to comment: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/butterfly-labs-bfl-raided-today-by-us-marshalls-91914-788886

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