[Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Manufacturer Trustworthiness Guide [1st Feb 2016] - page 35.

CrazyRabbi

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Quote from: Gleb Gamow on September 17, 2014, 04:26:09 AM

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Quote from: jimmothy on September 17, 2014, 12:25:38 AM

Quote from: Squeaker on September 16, 2014, 11:39:32 PM

C'mon, be above this kind of petty BS, please.

=squeak=

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=BFL

It's not BS, you getting upset about the definition of a word is BS.

That doesn't fly...

=squeak=

Flying quite well. Has wings carried around the globe.

It does more to validate my point than to negate it.

=squeak=

Do you have to reply to every god damn message with =squeak= ?

Google "I am FURRY, hear me squeak!"

Negative Rating Removed Roll Eyes

Quote from: Collider on September 17, 2014, 04:01:23 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

When you can stop typing =squeak= in every fucking message and bitching about things where people can understand the fucking rating I'll remove your negative rating. Until then you are by far one of the most annoying people I've ever seen.

Please don´t pay attention to him, he is most likely a paid BFL shill.

(Atleast that is the only real explenation as to why someone would say positive things about BFL I can come up with)

Figured it out, eh?

Ya I feel retarded sorry Squeak Cry

Gleb Gamow

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Quote from: CrazyRabbi on September 17, 2014, 04:23:19 AM

Quote from: Gleb Gamow on September 17, 2014, 04:20:36 AM

Quote from: CrazyRabbi on September 17, 2014, 01:16:02 AM

Quote from: Squeaker on September 17, 2014, 01:14:25 AM

Quote from: Bicknellski on September 17, 2014, 01:09:08 AM

Quote from: Squeaker on September 17, 2014, 01:05:47 AM

Quote from: jimmothy on September 17, 2014, 12:25:38 AM

Quote from: Squeaker on September 16, 2014, 11:39:32 PM

C'mon, be above this kind of petty BS, please.

=squeak=

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=BFL

It's not BS, you getting upset about the definition of a word is BS.

That doesn't fly...

=squeak=

Flying quite well. Has wings carried around the globe.

It does more to validate my point than to negate it.

=squeak=

Do you have to reply to every god damn message with =squeak= ?

Google "I am FURRY, hear me squeak!"

Negative Rating Removed Roll Eyes

Quote from: Collider on September 17, 2014, 04:01:23 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

When you can stop typing =squeak= in every fucking message and bitching about things where people can understand the fucking rating I'll remove your negative rating. Until then you are by far one of the most annoying people I've ever seen.

Please don´t pay attention to him, he is most likely a paid BFL shill.

(Atleast that is the only real explenation as to why someone would say positive things about BFL I can come up with)

Figured it out, eh?

CrazyRabbi

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Quote from: Gleb Gamow on September 17, 2014, 04:20:36 AM

Quote from: CrazyRabbi on September 17, 2014, 01:16:02 AM

Quote from: Squeaker on September 17, 2014, 01:14:25 AM

Quote from: Bicknellski on September 17, 2014, 01:09:08 AM

Quote from: Squeaker on September 17, 2014, 01:05:47 AM

Quote from: jimmothy on September 17, 2014, 12:25:38 AM

Quote from: Squeaker on September 16, 2014, 11:39:32 PM

C'mon, be above this kind of petty BS, please.

=squeak=

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=BFL

It's not BS, you getting upset about the definition of a word is BS.

That doesn't fly...

=squeak=

Flying quite well. Has wings carried around the globe.

It does more to validate my point than to negate it.

=squeak=

Do you have to reply to every god damn message with =squeak= ?

Google "I am FURRY, hear me squeak!"

Negative Rating Removed Roll Eyes

Gleb Gamow

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Quote from: CrazyRabbi on September 17, 2014, 01:16:02 AM

Quote from: Squeaker on September 17, 2014, 01:14:25 AM

Quote from: Bicknellski on September 17, 2014, 01:09:08 AM

Quote from: Squeaker on September 17, 2014, 01:05:47 AM

Quote from: jimmothy on September 17, 2014, 12:25:38 AM

Quote from: Squeaker on September 16, 2014, 11:39:32 PM

C'mon, be above this kind of petty BS, please.

=squeak=

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=BFL

It's not BS, you getting upset about the definition of a word is BS.

That doesn't fly...

=squeak=

Flying quite well. Has wings carried around the globe.

It does more to validate my point than to negate it.

=squeak=

Do you have to reply to every god damn message with =squeak= ?

Google "I am FURRY, hear me squeak!"

Bicknellski

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Glad I bought SP30s and S2s. Both have broken even or will give me return on my initial investment. Monarchs? Glad I respected the rating system that is in place here. Following it saved me the negative consequences of ordering from BFL. I bet there are 100s more people that have taken the rating here and done the same.

It works. You can argue the semantics all you like. We all know that using that BFL rating when making a decision to avoid BFL, and companies like BFL, is the right choice and has already saved people money and frustration. The only reason Inaba is here is to cause issue with that effectiveness to sow doubt and confusion and Squeak is certainly adding to the uncertainty and confusion shame on him. Fortunately, Dogie is really beyond reproach even if there are disagreements about his methodology it still works very well with regards to helping consumers AVOID BFL and those who use the BFL playbook of lies and deceit.

Collider

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Quote from: ?? on ??

When you can stop typing =squeak= in every fucking message and bitching about things where people can understand the fucking rating I'll remove your negative rating. Until then you are by far one of the most annoying people I've ever seen.

Please don´t pay attention to him, he is most likely a paid BFL shill.

(Atleast that is the only real explenation as to why someone would say positive things about BFL I can come up with)

Squeaker

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Quote from: jimmothy on September 17, 2014, 02:58:19 AM

It doesn't matter if we use the term "BFL" or completely write out "scammy companies that use shills, false advertising, fuck over customers, and generally act in bad faith"

It does matter.

=squeak=

Unacceptable

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Quote from: Squeaker on September 17, 2014, 01:59:39 AM

You guys have made it personal, to the point of even inventing a "word" so you can pretend it isn't personal.

You guys also keep pretending that I'm talking about BFL itself, and I'm not.

Using BFL in this way in the rating system, and creating a fake word to pretend to legitimize its use, is biased.

My standard for categorizing companies and rating them, is Consumer's Reports.

The way BFL is being used in the rating system is unethical, and just because the majority is going along with it, doesn't mean they're right. In this case, they absolutely aren't right. They are biased, and unethical.

=squeak=

They don't call you Squeaker for nuttin,do they Cheesy

I hear tiny violins when you talk Grin

BFL made their bed & they can sleep in it Tongue

Until ALL orders are filled or refunded,BFL's rating shouldn't change."We learned our lesson with the 65nm era".......hardly,they keep delayin over & over & over again Roll Eyes

So,whats next Inaba,16nm,14nm Huh

Hope you saved enough BTC to live on for the rest of your life,the BFL drama will follow you till the end Wink

Dogie!!!! Keep up the good work,you must be doin sumptin rite for Josh to come by to get you to sweeten his rating !!! Cheesy

.!.. BFL & Joshy boi !!!!! Grin

freedomno1

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Learning the troll avoidance button :)

BFL earned its ranking through taking so damn long for such a long period of time
It deserves the rank BFLING for a good reason
Besides its in a Bitcoiners lexicon its practically vocabulary by now.

jimmothy

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Quote from: Squeaker on September 17, 2014, 01:59:39 AM

You guys have made it personal, to the point of even inventing a "word" so you can pretend it isn't personal.

You guys also keep pretending that I'm talking about BFL itself, and I'm not.

Nobody is pretending anything.

It doesn't matter if we use the term "BFL" or completely write out "scammy companies that use shills, false advertising, fuck over customers, and generally act in bad faith"

BFL is free to stop BFLing and I fully expect dogie to boost their rating when/if the time comes.

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Using BFL in this way in the rating system, and creating a fake word to pretend to legitimize its use, is biased.

My standard for categorizing companies and rating them, is Consumer's Reports.

The "fake word" was created long before the rating system.

Never did he or anyone claim to be entirely free of bias.

You are free to have any imaginary standards you like and you can even create your own morally superior ratings system, but this is dogies thread and you may be the only person other than josh who has a problem with using BFL as a term.

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The way BFL is being used in the rating system is unethical, and just because the majority is going along with it, doesn't mean they're right. In this case, they absolutely aren't right. They are biased, and unethical.

Just because you declare it unethical/wrong doesn't mean it is. If everyone is happy with the current system besides you, what's the problem?

You have yet to even dispute the ratings BFL received. If dogie is being biased like you claim how about letting us know where?

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You guys have made it personal, to the point of even inventing a "word" so you can pretend it isn't personal.

You guys also keep pretending that I'm talking about BFL itself, and I'm not.

Using BFL in this way in the rating system, and creating a fake word to pretend to legitimize its use, is biased.

My standard for categorizing companies and rating them, is Consumer's Reports.

The way BFL is being used in the rating system is unethical, and just because the majority is going along with it, doesn't mean they're right. In this case, they absolutely aren't right. They are biased, and unethical.

=squeak=

Bicknellski

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Quote from: Squeaker on September 17, 2014, 01:14:25 AM

Quote from: Bicknellski on September 17, 2014, 01:09:08 AM

Quote from: Squeaker on September 17, 2014, 01:05:47 AM

Quote from: jimmothy on September 17, 2014, 12:25:38 AM

Quote from: Squeaker on September 16, 2014, 11:39:32 PM

C'mon, be above this kind of petty BS, please.

=squeak=

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=BFL

It's not BS, you getting upset about the definition of a word is BS.

That doesn't fly...

=squeak=

Flying quite well. Has wings carried around the globe.

It does more to validate my point than to negate it.

=squeak=

For you maybe and Josh.

For the majority we know the score.

Bitmaintech simple choice over BFL.

No one is buying BFL for a reason. That reason is they have yet to ever deliver on time, to specification or provide refunds according standard FTC practices.

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Quote from: Squeaker on September 17, 2014, 01:05:47 AM

Quote from: jimmothy on September 17, 2014, 12:25:38 AM

Quote from: Squeaker on September 16, 2014, 11:39:32 PM

C'mon, be above this kind of petty BS, please.

=squeak=

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=BFL

It's not BS, you getting upset about the definition of a word is BS.

That doesn't fly...

=squeak=

According to you?

People in this community use the term freely and it's understood by everyone.

You're the first person to complain about its use and even you clearly understand it's meaning.

Why should we as a community change the meaning of a word because you don't like it?

I think you might have a point if BFL stopped BFLing but I doubt that will ever happen.

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Quote from: Squeaker on September 17, 2014, 01:14:25 AM

Quote from: Bicknellski on September 17, 2014, 01:09:08 AM

Quote from: Squeaker on September 17, 2014, 01:05:47 AM

Quote from: jimmothy on September 17, 2014, 12:25:38 AM

Quote from: Squeaker on September 16, 2014, 11:39:32 PM

C'mon, be above this kind of petty BS, please.

=squeak=

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=BFL

It's not BS, you getting upset about the definition of a word is BS.

That doesn't fly...

=squeak=

Flying quite well. Has wings carried around the globe.

It does more to validate my point than to negate it.

=squeak=

Do you have to reply to every god damn message with =squeak= ?

Squeaker

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Quote from: Bicknellski on September 17, 2014, 01:09:08 AM

Quote from: Squeaker on September 17, 2014, 01:05:47 AM

Quote from: jimmothy on September 17, 2014, 12:25:38 AM

Quote from: Squeaker on September 16, 2014, 11:39:32 PM

C'mon, be above this kind of petty BS, please.

=squeak=

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=BFL

It's not BS, you getting upset about the definition of a word is BS.

That doesn't fly...

=squeak=

Flying quite well. Has wings carried around the globe.

It does more to validate my point than to negate it.

=squeak=

Bicknellski

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Quote from: Squeaker on September 17, 2014, 01:05:47 AM

Quote from: jimmothy on September 17, 2014, 12:25:38 AM

Quote from: Squeaker on September 16, 2014, 11:39:32 PM

C'mon, be above this kind of petty BS, please.

=squeak=

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=BFL

It's not BS, you getting upset about the definition of a word is BS.

That doesn't fly...

=squeak=

Flying quite well. Has wings carried around the globe.

Bitmaintech or BFL which would you recommend right now?

Squeaker

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Quote from: jimmothy on September 17, 2014, 12:25:38 AM

Quote from: Squeaker on September 16, 2014, 11:39:32 PM

C'mon, be above this kind of petty BS, please.

=squeak=

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=BFL

It's not BS, you getting upset about the definition of a word is BS.

That doesn't fly...

=squeak=

Gleb Gamow

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Quote from: bitsalame on September 16, 2014, 10:26:34 PM

Affected. And just in case, then =/= than.
It is funny that only Americans make these mistakes.
Besides that, I agree with everything.

Rarely have I made such mistakes, but this time I'll blame it on being in a hurry. Nice catch, and thanks, bud.

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Quote from: Squeaker on September 16, 2014, 11:39:32 PM

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Ethics?
All companies start with 10 points, and lose points for various infractions. The key is as follows:
F = Operates own mining farm = -2
FF = Operates own large mining farm = -4
P = Evidence of premining on preordered equipment = -2
BFL = BFL'ing = -9
B = Bankrupt = -9
O = Other generic unethical behaviour = -5

Alright, just to chime in a little again, having BFL here isn't useful.

Look at it from the perspective of someone who really hasn't been paying attention to BFL issues for the last few years... sure they probably heard a lot of back-handed BFL-hate comments here and there, but don't really know what it is about.

This won't help. List out specific ethics-related criteria in that list and apply them. People can look at that list and understand what the other metrics are, but "BFL'ing" isn't specific or clear at all... it is just more bashing.

C'mon, be above this kind of petty BS, please.

=squeak=

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=BFL

It's not BS, you getting upset about the definition of a word is BS.

Bicknellski

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on September 16, 2014, 11:10:52 AM

Quote from: Inaba on September 16, 2014, 10:46:09 AM

Ohhh ChuckBuck... I mean Bicknellski. Did you post with the wrong account? Oopsie! lol

Quick, pull a Garr255 and delete it and pretend it wasn't you, then accuse ME of having sock puppets!

Lol, sorry to disappoint you Inaba, but Bicknellski and me are two totally different people. You can check the join dates, post history, trust records etc. We don't write the same at all! Cheesy

I have nothing against you or your company on a personal level. I mean BFL's track record speaks for itself.

I am Chuck Bick not Chuck Buck.... simple mistake.

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