Topic: He Committed Suicide After Losing School fees, And That Of Friend To Betting.. - page 4. (Read 2247 times)

Suicide isn't based on religion because everyone knows that suicide is not the best option to any situation that you find yourself. The problem lies on the person in particular that is facing depression or a situation that he feels that the world has come to an end. If he can be able to contain the situation on ground or see someone to counsel him and give him  advice to make him see that he shouldn't commit suicide but take courage and have hope that everything will be alright. Religion is only a guide on how best we can practice a healthy life in Christ. It is the individual mindset to listen or not listen to what he has been taught. After all the church tells us not to commit crime because they are not good but people going to church still commits crime.

Well.. let's not mix religion here. You are claiming that Catholicism preaches against violence. And yet, among the top-10 countries with highest murder rate, a majority are Catholic (El Salvador, Honduras, Venezuela, Jamaica.etc). And if we take a look at countries with the highest suicide rate, then again Catholic nations top the list. On the other hand, lowest murder rates are found in countries such as Japan and Singapore, which are mostly non-religious. All I am saying is that religion played no part here. The victim committed suicide because there was no one to help him.

This could be due to how parents upbringing had influenced the kid to be suicidal. There are catholic teachings about killing yourself is like murder which is a sin that could bring him to eternal hell. If the kid is taught this way, he may not have suicidal tendencies but then of course this is a Christian faith.  It can be attributed if parents believe this as well.

Somehow one could only say the kid has poor judgment and is pressured by how the parents will react once they found out the money intended for schooling was spent elsewhere.

There is nothing more important than your life to everyone around you, people should realize this. You could be alone in your life and can have nobody, no family, no friends, and your life is still worth more, should worth more to you at least.

Sure you could have made a huge mistake, there are a lot of people who made huge mistakes, and yes that could result with you having one of the worst financial situations you can think of and take as much as a decade or two in order to fix it, but by the time you are 40, you are done and then you can work to be a retired old man one day. Taking your life is NEVER the solution, there is no need to put this much emotions on money, life could be terrible, it will pass and you will be better.

However, to be fair we also need to admit there are parents who are rather a bad influence to the future of their children, stead of supporting them and encourage them to seek for success. And it can be seen in many contexts, some of them involve gambling.

Keeping in mind this young man was going to study and had a fund to do so, I am leaning to the possibility of their parents being very strict and he could not imagine what would happen if they realized what he had done to their money.

I have a friend whose mother is very bad, she tries to get money out of him and forces him to adquire debt and she ends up with the money. It is just an example of bad parenthood, unfortunately one of many there are out there.

this type of problem arises when at home people tend to behave maliciously, repress others, are violent with others. there are houses where the mother and father cannot resolve problems peacefully and are always resorting to blackmail and threats when the children do something and can't help themselves they start to resort to physical aggression, the parents beat the children and threaten them to send them away from home, as children suffer this type of serious violence, they are afraid to tell their parents when they do something bad. for example, parents choose the course that their son should take in college, something like being a doctor, but the son chooses to be an engineer because he likes engineering

it turns out that since the son lives at home with his parents and his parents are violent and they are the ones who pay for college, then the son has no choice, he accepts the course that the father chose, after that the parents start demanding good grades and the son can't get good grades, how he can't get a job to leave his parents' house the son sees gambling as an alternative to earn a lot of money quickly and leave his parents' house and follow the course and things he likes, but how gambling is not a secure source of income, so he loses money and prefers to kill himself because he has no other choice. cases like these have been very frequent, although many of them do not involve gambling, but other addictions such as drugs and alcohol

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I read this article:


source: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyt.2022.980303/full

It is a very good article, although it is common for research to exaggerate a lot because they are done with ulterior motives, always looking for political gains, which is why you should not rely too much on this data from the article or from other articles, even so, it is necessary that all people, don't gamble excessively, look very carefully at the financial conditions you are in, don't use gambling as a way to forget real life problems, don't do that. the fact that games of chance are a form of entertainment, they are not a therapy to overcome real world problems. those who have problems should see a doctor, financial manager, relatives and friends or lawyers depending on the nature of the problem

Parental attention is what children want most. At least we have to take the time to listen to children's complaints and the problems they face, don't just let them go. And don't let us pay attention to children only when they make mistakes.

The anger of his parents, in my opinion, is what he imagined before he decided to end his life. Maybe before that happened the child had done something wrong and his parents scolded him so that the child was traumatized if he had to be scolded a second time.

But I agree that a parent's love for their child is unlimited. Parents are oceans of forgiveness for their children who are full of mistakes they will always forgive them. They are angry doesn't mean they don't love, it's just that they want the best for their child's life before the child is old enough to determine the best way for his life.

For me, obligations stop the moment they can go and survive on their own. But what doesn't and shouldn't stop is the guidance given to them. Fully grown and abled adults can do anything on their own. They know the do's and don'ts and they can act based on their observations and their moral compass. But sometimes, people get lost too, no matter what age, there are times that people will make wrong judgment and decisions in life.

And that's where the lifetime role of being a parent kicks in. As a parent, you have to reach out to your child to ask how he's doing and catch up once in a while. This is to ensure that they are still in the right path and not being led into a miserable one. The moment you knew there's something off, you can offer help and give support, just so they can feel that they are not alone and will not resort to vices such as gambling that could lead to numerous problems such as addiction and financial constraints. Which could also lead to more serious problems such as resorting to self-harm and the likes.

Maybe those who fail need to get more attention and still be given a second chance to correct their mistakes and don't judge them as having failed and can't get up again. They are still human and feel they can get a second chance but unfortunately, often, the environment doesn't want to give it. How hard life is in their environment and once the individual fails, it will be difficult for him to get up and will get worse and worse in his mistakes. People like that should be given the opportunity to correct their mistakes and the people around them need to accompany them and encourage them to get up and fix everything. I think it will reduce the number of suicides in many cases and make someone who makes a mistake wiser in his attitude. Psychiatric problems can also be handled properly because of the support from the environment and the people around them.

Yeah right, the obligations doesn't stop even how old our kid was, we still need to monitor what are the things they are involved and keep our distance close and not just because of the changing lifestyle means that we will follow that trend, better yet, we should take that responsibilities to continue guiding them even in the times that they think they already know enough.

We can't change what happened, but learning from that kind of situation maybe we can adjust and start taking things seriously.

We never know what will be waiting in the future, especially for us who already have children that we need to take care,
this situation can be a good basis not to repeat it with anyone.

Keeping an eye on kids is crucial since the dangers they confront are ever-evolving, especially in light of technological developments. Indeed, parental vigilance is essential. Even if they have other chores and responsibilities, parents must still make time for their offspring. The border between guidance and control is occasionally blurred.

This once-a-week open forum that you propose is an intriguing concept, but it may not be sufficient to resolve the issues. How about taking into account additional factors, such as their peer group, school environment, etc.? Moreover, keep in mind that not everything can be monitored or controlled to that extent, but you must still make that effort.

There are no guarantees that good guidance will result in better-behaved children, but it is possible. Still, it is crucial that we endeavor to be the best parents we can.

I agree that the world is changing and becoming more difficult and people are getting selfish, those who fail will get a very narrow space to be able to correct their mistakes and the worst thing is that the people closest to them who should give themselves to help judge, but suicide is not a solution of every failure achieved and I think he will commit suicide for other reasons, I mean if he doesn't kill himself because of gambling then he will suicide because of other problems that can damage his mind, people like that have a very weak soul so they will choose shortcuts to end the problem.
so think gambling can be destructive and people will think of suicide because of addiction then addiction to anything else will give the same result.

The world has changed for sure. But your arguments are not right. Even hundreds of years ago, people hardly had any room for failure (unless they are born with a silver spoon in their mouth). What has changed is that social interaction has moved to the online space. Friends and relatives are no longer considered as trusted resources who can be contacted in case of an emergency. In this case also, if the victim had contacted his close relatives or friends prior to taking this drastic step, then there was a good chance that this tragic outcome could have been avoided.

The world changing into a bitter place, no room for failures and if one happens to failed, he might face condemnation from the same people who are saying he shouldn't have committed suicide, and if he eventually asked for help, absolutely no one would tender that or give him listening ear, we are human, and every single one of us have flaws which is public or discreet. Committing suicide is never an option, a problem shared is half solved. I think he was depressed because he would face actual blames from his parents and his friends, so he needed to avoid all these obstacles, besides he had alot on his mind.

I do not think "embarrassing" is the correct way to talk about this case, it is rather sad, but we should not understimate what goes through the mind of a person who even consider to end their existence.

Since nobody knew about his gambling habits, I assume he felt ashamed of it but still wanted to earn money, once all they money was gone the feeling of guilty and shame was so big that he probably could not picture a world where his parents and friend could love him anymore because what he did (which was an extrem way of thinking).

Loving parents would forgive their son and help him to recover, not matter he lost much money in sportbetting, I would have loved if he realized it before taking such choice...

No matter how busy we are in our works or other chores or something that in line with living or making income, we shouldn't really forget on one of our responsibilities on monitoring out our kids on which it is really that
part of parenting. You shouldn't really that let everything to be seen or checked out by your maid or other guardian because we us parents are the ones that really needs on doing that. It is really that vital or really that important if we do speak about your children involvement into something or whatever they've been doing. Try to be open as much as possible even having that once a week kind of session or open forum or on how things been doing and you shouldnt really that always focus on your work because this is where usually family problems do rise up but its true that not all would really be that a guarantee that your children wont really become that a gambling addict and due to the current era or tech and accessibility then it would really be that so prone into those possible things that might be encounter but there's always a difference into those childrens
who had been guided up well compared to those who had none. They would really be able to avoid since they have remembered on what their parents had been told about.

Children under the age of 20 are still the responsibility of their parents to provide formal education and monitor their activities at all times so as to avoid negative problems that are not appropriate for the age of the children. However, the news of the case above has absolutely nothing to do with the age of the child, he is 22 years old and he is addicted to gambling but no one knows about it, he is very quiet and his best friend does not know he is very addicted to gambling, his best friend trusts him to provide an account PIN for withdrawal of funds sent from his parents and he also stole funds from his best friend.

Sad story, he shouldn't have killed himself just for that reason, even though the problem could have been solved if he was willing to pay off his friend's funds and apologize to his parents, but unfortunately he has ended his life in an embarrassing way.

It's hard to monitor the children for all the time.Because they are exposure to the social media,So they come to know about the gambling at the earlier age.Taking care of the children is most important one,because gambling alone not give loss.They should have a capacity to accept the loss,the main reason for the children to keep away from the gambling is they will not have a capacity to handle the big loss.So keep the children in the eye of  us will help the people to keep the children from the gambling.The gambling had enough support from the people from the adult people,the big business man are enough for the gambling.They only know the worth of the gambling and handle both the profit and loss balanced.

Yes, and nothing can be change it happened and the best way or the best thing here is to capture that idea whereas parents we need to make sure that we still monitoring our children even when they are already in a certain age, we should always be their shining armour when they needed us, don't allow your child to stay away from you keep your distance close to make sure that you will not regret things like this as you know that your children will entrust you if ever they've got some issue or problem like this.

Well, you know that children do grow, and they grow to an extent where the parents are now sure that their children can handle some things on their own, but that doesn't mean that they (the parents) still don't show concern for the child's affairs. Kids can at times do the unimaginable, and the parents cannot be aware of everything with the child all the time. What if it's when they are in school? Do their parents go along with them to school? Sometimes, it's not usually the fault of the parents, but just because the child is also immature, that's why they will consider suicide as the only way to end their guilt.