in my country, horse racing is a recognized sport (animal sport) and starting from the age of 2, the horses can take part in a special race for young horses
As for the death rate of horses due to racing, the cases in my country are almost unheard of. This is the reason why I don't really care about horse racing, maybe it's just a sudden illness that can make the horse's death while racing
Topic: Horse Racing and Gambling on it should be banned - page 10. (Read 1650 times)
I doubt it'll get banned since there's so much money being made from it I understand that it sucks but there's not much you can do when money is one of the main factors that keeps things going.
That's the sad truth. Money controls everything. Money is more important to those greedy people and not the lives of the poor animals. The government can't do anything because they are also being paid to continue this kind of business.Forcing is not right if the horse are in a bad condition but it's fine to use them on races as long as they are healthy. That's not what you called "forcing" but it was their own job. The company bought them and feed them properly for that purpose but it would be better if they can take extra care of the horses like always checking their health before they race them and I believe they have other horses which that they can use as a replacement.
What the creator of the thread explains reminded me of bullfighting, which many have idealized, when the truth is that when the bull goes to the bullring, it is in terrible conditions.
When I was young, the boss of my father was into this. He's petting a lot of bull dogs and I've just heard it that he's into it. It's like a game of the rich and I was too innocent on that when I've heard until I grew up and realized and understood the reality that this is a cruel way of gambling. It's better to just do the usual way of gambling like sports betting and other casino games.
We may have often seen animals used as a bet and that's hard to stop because humans enjoy such entertainment. But there should be some kind of ban from the government that starts banning animals as bets because the times are different now than they were some time ago. Horses, dogs, chickens, and other animals are used only for the satisfaction of humans to gamble, which should be stopped. But we're still dealing with traditional bets that use animals, so I think it's still going to take some time to really stop and make people aware.
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What the creator of the thread explains reminded me of bullfighting, which many have idealized, when the truth is that when the bull goes to the bullring, it is in terrible conditions.
'The odds are already stacked against bulls many days before the fight begins. Selected for their “athletic” appearance, they endure physical and mental torment for at least two days before a fight.
Their nostrils and ears are blocked, petroleum jelly is rubbed into their eyes, needles are stuck into their genitals, and a strong caustic is rubbed on their legs in order to throw them off balance and prevent them from lying down. They’re drugged with sedatives and/or stimulants and then laxatives in order to weaken and incapacitate them.'
https://www.peta.org.au/issues/entertainment/bullfighting-torture-not-culture/
I believe that all this type of animal torture should be prohibited, no matter how much tradition supports it.
'The odds are already stacked against bulls many days before the fight begins. Selected for their “athletic” appearance, they endure physical and mental torment for at least two days before a fight.
Their nostrils and ears are blocked, petroleum jelly is rubbed into their eyes, needles are stuck into their genitals, and a strong caustic is rubbed on their legs in order to throw them off balance and prevent them from lying down. They’re drugged with sedatives and/or stimulants and then laxatives in order to weaken and incapacitate them.'
https://www.peta.org.au/issues/entertainment/bullfighting-torture-not-culture/
I believe that all this type of animal torture should be prohibited, no matter how much tradition supports it.
This is a very ancient sport/game. It is not going to get banned. Probably never. Lots of football players die of heart attack every year. They run like horses too. The are many similarities between a horse race and a soccer game. Just because footballers die sometimes, do we need to ban football/soccer? This logic don't make any sense to me.
I should note that after covid vaccination there is a significant increase in heart attacks among athletes, including football players. I won't develop any conspiracy theories around this, but it has attracted a lot of attention.
As for comparisons with human sports, I agree with you, but there is a nuance: everywhere there is some acceptable percentage of deaths after which sport becomes unacceptable. For example, it was great in boxing before, and after the legislators ordered the boxing federation to fix it or close it, doping requirements and some rules were changed in favor of athletes. This greatly reduced the number of deaths in the ring (and out of it).
Now the important question is what is the actual mortality rate among racehorses and whether we can consider it acceptable to require a change in the format of the competition or something else to reduce it.
We have to accept that some animals are being used to make money. Some of them function that way not just because its necessary but tradition. Horse raising will always be a traditional game and it will never be banned because there will be lots of gamblers that will disagree. There are really unacceptable animals being used in gambling but we have to deal with it.
Exactly. Animal abuse has been a part of the mankind history. Horses, chickens, elephants, lions… Without them we simply wouldn’t exist now. Billions of chickens are manufactured and killed every year. Yes manufactured. So you can have your KFC bucket. Nobody talks about that. That’s what humans are. We will consume this planet until nothing is left behind unless somebody stops us.
For me, cruelty on the horses are being subjective. Maybe in some cases but we can't generalize it as " it always happened". How these horses will be fit for horse racing if they will treat badly? There are even owners who treat their horses as part of their family and will do anything just to make them fully healthy and condition on a racing day.
We should not open up a topic here and then tell everyone that they need to stop horse racing. That should be done in an official petition. Don't just look at the negative sides as there are advantages that horse racing brings to people too.
Simple as it is, if you are against it, then don't support it. That's already a big contribution on your part.
According the this site: https://www.horsedeathwatch.com/background.php they have seen more than 2000 deaths in around 5500 days. Most of the horses die during the match as well, they also have instances where they are exploited using drugs (doping).
Are you aware that most of the horses go through slaughter as well? Some of them have very bad injuries making them not even the least bit useful for the business therefore they are killed without second thought. I do hope people would get more aware and try and steer away from *horse racing*.
Are you aware that most of the horses go through slaughter as well? Some of them have very bad injuries making them not even the least bit useful for the business therefore they are killed without second thought. I do hope people would get more aware and try and steer away from *horse racing*.
I had no idea about any of this, and I am saddened to find out. I do not agree with those who downplay the importance of the issue, because we have evolved to societies where animal abuse is minimal, unlike what happened a few hundred years ago. The problem is that, as has been commented, since it is such a deeply rooted custom and around which there are so many economic interests, I do not see it being banned in the near future.
I am not a supporter of using animals for betting or gambling purposes. Not only do they die in their matches, they also undergo training, diet, supplement, and overall lifestyle that are not only severe but also unnatural to them.
It is wrong to compare horses and other animals to humans also dying in their chosen sports. These animals didn't choose their fate as racing horses or fighting dogs. Human athletes on the other hand have complete free will in doing what they love doing. These horses, do you think they are happy running very hard even if they are already in the brink of a heart attack? They are only running because they're getting terribly whipped and induced with all kinds of drugs.
It is wrong to compare horses and other animals to humans also dying in their chosen sports. These animals didn't choose their fate as racing horses or fighting dogs. Human athletes on the other hand have complete free will in doing what they love doing. These horses, do you think they are happy running very hard even if they are already in the brink of a heart attack? They are only running because they're getting terribly whipped and induced with all kinds of drugs.
I doubt it'll get banned since there's so much money being made from it I understand that it sucks but there's not much you can do when money is one of the main factors that keeps things going.
Those horses are well maintained or maybe got an overdose and the result is really bad. I rarely see horses died during the race, I follow some of the site that offers a horse racing and watch it online, as I can see they are all good.
Even if horses rarely die during these races it's still not right to force them to race. Imagine if you're in the shoes of the horse and forced to race by the owner anytime which is similar to working yourself to death since you don't know how much resting time you'll get before the next race and have no other choice but to follow them.it's hard to ban horse racing because this is one of the old types of bets that have fans who are usually rich people. Apart from horse racing, there are also some other races that I feel need to be banned such as dog races, sad to see when dogs are made into racing animals and their bodies are tortured because only the skinny and very hungry will surely win the race.
It is very difficult to prohibit events that cause many large -scale money movements, although horse races are always there, in order to combat the issue of animal use or abuse is that organizations that have to do with animals and their Protection, enter these organisms to avoid disproportionate abuse of animals in the name of sports and do something, this can range from different rules or health controls of animals and that this should apply for both horses and dogs, and Everything that has to do with animals.
Currently the rights of animals have increased and anyone who is discovered to be used or mistreat them should receive punishment, it does not seem badly, because in what other way can they defend themselves? They cannot. With this, all abuse would be ending and the horsepower would not have to eliimate or suffer different types of ban, at the same time the entertainment and fun of people with bets would be maintained.
And this is the reason why there are certain rules when it comes to this kind of animal racing.
They have protocols on how to handle their horses before the race.
However, some owners are opting to utilize drugs and other enhancement methods for their horses.
Now, this is out of control of the governing body because they mostly found out such cases after the race, once one of them died after the event.
But banning this kind of racing, won't go nowhere. Because a lot of people are already involved in this kind of racing as it has been part of the culture already.
it's hard to ban horse racing because this is one of the old types of bets that have fans who are usually rich people. Apart from horse racing, there are also some other races that I feel need to be banned such as dog races, sad to see when dogs are made into racing animals and their bodies are tortured because only the skinny and very hungry will surely win the race.
It is very difficult to prohibit events that cause many large -scale money movements, although horse races are always there, in order to combat the issue of animal use or abuse is that organizations that have to do with animals and their Protection, enter these organisms to avoid disproportionate abuse of animals in the name of sports and do something, this can range from different rules or health controls of animals and that this should apply for both horses and dogs, and Everything that has to do with animals.
Currently the rights of animals have increased and anyone who is discovered to be used or mistreat them should receive punishment, it does not seem badly, because in what other way can they defend themselves? They cannot. With this, all abuse would be ending and the horsepower would not have to eliimate or suffer different types of ban, at the same time the entertainment and fun of people with bets would be maintained.
Those horses are well maintained or maybe got an overdose and the result is really bad. I rarely see horses died during the race, I follow some of the site that offers a horse racing and watch it online, as I can see they are all good. Horse racing is legal, this is why no one is willing to oppose this and become a normal way of gambling. If you really care about the horse, don’t try to place a bet because if you do, you are just supporting it after all.
it's hard to ban horse racing because this is one of the old types of bets that have fans who are usually rich people. Apart from horse racing, there are also some other races that I feel need to be banned such as dog races, sad to see when dogs are made into racing animals and their bodies are tortured because only the skinny and very hungry will surely win the race.
Even humans do have heart attack. Horses are not giving medical care like humans.
You want horse race to be banned? Then you should want human 100 meter, others short distance and marathon races to be banned too.
If you want it to be banned, I mean hourse race, you want many other races to be banned, such as dog race. If you want that, you need to have political power. Even if you have political power, there are many chances that your proposal may not be accepted.
Cruelty as it is, but there's no way you can ban a game that has already existed some decades ago. Heart attack usually happened whenever a race is going on, so i think its always inevitable regardless of how fit the horse seemed before the race starts. If you consider also banning some other games that is prone to heart attack, i guess we'll be left with nothing to gamble, since most of the games should be exerted with force and body speed that will make the heartbeat function abnormally. So banning will definitely be a hard thing to do, no matter how high your political position is. You want horse race to be banned? Then you should want human 100 meter, others short distance and marathon races to be banned too.
If you want it to be banned, I mean hourse race, you want many other races to be banned, such as dog race. If you want that, you need to have political power. Even if you have political power, there are many chances that your proposal may not be accepted.
If horses die during the horse racing means the horse is maybe not healthy enough for the race. I think you can be saying the horses needs to be taken care of before they are used for the race. Horce racing is an old game both online and real life and they have been dying just like human beings. In soccer and other human games people die in the act. Horse race is not the only race, others are existing and will get continue.
Stroke are still happening even if you are healthy, I know horses that are into racing are being taking care of because there’s a lot of money involve on this and the owner of the horse will not put his horse in a race if he knows it is not fit for that, this is just an unfortunate event and of course this will continue even if we saw a lot of horses died during the race every year. This has become a tradition, and looks like even the government has no control over this, but if you are really concern about the animals that are into this kind of gambling, you can boycott it and don’t ever place a bet on a horse racing. 
Horse feeling heart attack and dying happens during the race. Compared to the heart attack caused on a human being, an animal getting sick is not a big thing. Horse racing is available long years back, but these are one a game of the rich. Now everyone have the access to be into horse racing. This is the good that these casinos have achieved.
Horses death during an horse race is not majorly because the horse is not healthy, it is as a result of overstressing of the horse. Everyone has limit they can run and trying to increase the limit of one capacity can be hazardous to the healthy. Those horses are like humans like ourselves and we don't have to false them to go above there capacity just to achieve what we want. It is against the ethics of animal handling and protection.
Thanks for this. It is the same thing I tried to argue that it is too much stress for the poor horses. Yes horses can gallop and run but that should not be taken to mean they do not get tired. Like in real human sports the athletes can throw in the towel or stop when tired but animals can not do that. Even when they show signs of fatigue their owners may overlook that and force then to continue. This is not good at all.
If horses die during the horse racing means the horse is maybe not healthy enough for the race. I think you can be saying the horses needs to be taken care of before they are used for the race. Horce racing is an old game both online and real life and they have been dying just like human beings. In soccer and other human games people die in the act. Horse race is not the only race, others are existing and will get continue.
Horses death during an horse race is not majorly because the horse is not healthy, it is as a result of overstressing of the horse. Everyone has limit they can run and trying to increase the limit of one capacity can be hazardous to the healthy. Those horses are like humans like ourselves and we don't have to false them to go above there capacity just to achieve what we want. It is against the ethics of animal handling and protection.I still don't know why the use of horses for race that always involves gambling are not abolished. We have laws that are protecting animals useage and these laws have to be respected but it looks like the government are not active in demonstrating and putting those laws in proper use.
When compared to the wild world, even under such extreme loads, horses have a better life than if they lived in nature. There are cases when someone managed to live to old age are extremely rare. Maybe this is too cynical, but for example, cows, pigs, etc. (which we eat) also die at the hands of people, but I don’t think this is a reason to stop the meat industry and start eating grass.
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