I know this is some kind of cruelty, but this is a really long-running sport and I know a lot of NGOs are campaigning to ban this, but it still failed. This is also like the cockfighting where all of the roosters that are lost usually die, or if not, they will be killed in the end because of the injuries. I know this is the most famous bet and they are still unable to ban it. I'm not for or against it, but it's still cruel, but when it comes to money, no one can stop it, and it's also about gambling, which a lot of big bosses partake in.
Sad reality. People have set aside their concern for animals because there is big money that is at stake. And when it comes to money, people are blind to see its consequences. Although cruelty is there, but its hard to ban this kind of game because this gives pleasure especially to those people who belong to high social status. They will always go against the law even if this will be ban in the future. 
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This kind of thing does seem painful to watch, but indeed it will be very difficult to ban it because there are some regions that still believe in the heritage of their ancestors who still use this as a tradition. regardless this is quite difficult to get banned.
but indeed when I don't like things like this I tend to avoid and don't want to know about things like this because when I say ban all at once this certainly won't work
but indeed when I don't like things like this I tend to avoid and don't want to know about things like this because when I say ban all at once this certainly won't work
There is no way we can ban it since it widely watched and popular among gambling community also. With so much animal abuse already going on in the world, I don't think someone will pay any attention to horse abuse. Similar type of things going on in Spain with bulls for centuries.
That's why I said from the start when we really can't prohibit things like this, then it's better if we don't know and don't find out about things like this.
It should be backed by science stroke on human is very much different in some way from horses, human develop it over time because of abuse on what he eats and what he thinks, horses are made to run, if it's a different animal race where the nature of them is not to run like monkey or turtle then it can develop depression on these animals.
Right and strict supervision and diagnosis should be implemented to fully check the horse's condition, horses can and will run they are created to run but it should be within their limit and must not be drugged to reach the desired results.
But this the game of the rich people - so they can do anything and go to any extreme. This brings them entertainment and money side by side. So we can only comment but nothing would happen.
I did a little googling about horse racing and found this...
Even today, horse racing is still called the sport of kings. it's almost impossible to get banned on horse racing because the opponents are nobles who still love horse racing and make bets on it. Honestly, I really like watching horse racing and I don't really support this old sport being banned.
Yes, that is right. Maybe not banned but gradually reduced so that people who are used to betting on horse racing can understand why. I think if they are also well informed of the reasons and the government can take a good approach, those people will surely understand.Quote
Horse racing is an ancient sport. Its origins date back to about 4500 BC among the nomadic tribesmen of Central Asia (who first domesticated the horse). Since then, horse racing has flourished as the sport of kings.
Even today, horse racing is still called the sport of kings. it's almost impossible to get banned on horse racing because the opponents are nobles who still love horse racing and make bets on it. Honestly, I really like watching horse racing and I don't really support this old sport being banned.
Horse racing has also become one of the sports of choice for many people, especially people who have a lot of money and maybe one of the favorite sports of rich people besides golf. This will take time and an approach between the two sides but we'll see how it goes.
I did a little googling about horse racing and found this...
Even today, horse racing is still called the sport of kings. it's almost impossible to get banned on horse racing because the opponents are nobles who still love horse racing and make bets on it. Honestly, I really like watching horse racing and I don't really support this old sport being banned.
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Horse racing is an ancient sport. Its origins date back to about 4500 BC among the nomadic tribesmen of Central Asia (who first domesticated the horse). Since then, horse racing has flourished as the sport of kings.
Even today, horse racing is still called the sport of kings. it's almost impossible to get banned on horse racing because the opponents are nobles who still love horse racing and make bets on it. Honestly, I really like watching horse racing and I don't really support this old sport being banned.
I have a neutral attitude towards horse racing because in my opinion it is a more humane entertainment than Spanish bullfighting, cockfighting or dog fighting. Horses don't suffer as much health damage as, for example, roosters, who are forced to take drugs and participate in bloody enough fights after which they either die or are crippled, or like bulls who die in the arena just to amuse people.
I was spending some time with my friends parents and there was not only a huge party but all of them placed p2p bets on the horse racing. They asked me to come over as well, the ending was deeply sad and essential to cover : The horse died after winning of a heart attack.
The horse was presenting signs of heart attack on the camera but no one was actually even giving it a second thought and at the end when it was the last lap, all the horses got whipped excessively hard as well. That gets me to my point "why do you support horse racing?" This is honestly far to cruel to continue.
According the this site: https://www.horsedeathwatch.com/background.php they have seen more than 2000 deaths in around 5500 days. Most of the horses die during the match as well, they also have instances where they are exploited using drugs (doping).
Are you aware that most of the horses go through slaughter as well? Some of them have very bad injuries making them not even the least bit useful for the business therefore they are killed without second thought. I do hope people would get more aware and try and steer away from *horse racing*.
The horse was presenting signs of heart attack on the camera but no one was actually even giving it a second thought and at the end when it was the last lap, all the horses got whipped excessively hard as well. That gets me to my point "why do you support horse racing?" This is honestly far to cruel to continue.
According the this site: https://www.horsedeathwatch.com/background.php they have seen more than 2000 deaths in around 5500 days. Most of the horses die during the match as well, they also have instances where they are exploited using drugs (doping).
Are you aware that most of the horses go through slaughter as well? Some of them have very bad injuries making them not even the least bit useful for the business therefore they are killed without second thought. I do hope people would get more aware and try and steer away from *horse racing*.
It seems that like many things in life, horse racing can be done in a bad way or a good way. Horses have been ridden for many thousands of years and there is nothing to say that they are always mistreated. I think all coercive methods like whipping or kicking should be taken out when trying to make a horse ride faster, after that - why should we not allow horses to compete for speed. Even athletes can over do it when it comes to training or pushing the human body, to the point where their heart muscle becomes so powerful it is too much. More research should definitely be done into the topic and if appropriate the laws should be improved on their welfare, but banning it outright may be unnecessary.
The game is very old and this is not going to stop. People have strong heart to support and bet on the game.
Many football players die too they run like a horse. However the OP person seems to have a kind heart - he couldn't bear the pain. Be careful and stay away from these games.
I think cockfighting is much as old as horseracing and to some countries it already becomes a tradition or if when there are so called fiesta's, they always have a schedule for cockfighting but let's forget that this thread was for horse racing and this one > https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ph-banned-online-cockfighting-worst-gambling-related-cases-recorded-5397318 is the thread for cockfighting.Many football players die too they run like a horse. However the OP person seems to have a kind heart - he couldn't bear the pain. Be careful and stay away from these games.
There will be a problem if let say government instantly put a ban on those old games because people are attached to them already and they will always find a way to continue betting again. They might consider looking for alternatives online. It's rare to see a footballer die in the field and footballers are not being forced to play but they can always stop if they feel something bad.
In speaking or considering that ranking of this particular sport then i would say it is really mostly in level between those rich-type kind of betting or industry which its true that its really that impossible to have these
kind of bans but it would be depending if how big the compaints or issues are but if we do talk about several people or few counts then it would be just surely be ignored which it isnt surprising.
Horse racing had been on here on this industry for a long time and its impossible that it would really be just simply be stopped because of those very common issues.
1: Bull
2: Horse
3: Cocks
4: Pigeons
5: Bears
6: Camels
and list goes on. There is no end to it. So there will be no using discussing it.
Not all horse breeds are fit on the farm. There's a right breed for farming and racing. What you see on the farm aren't those that use for racing.
Sorry but horse racing is a part of the ecosystem. It benefits humans too. If you are concerned about animal cruelty then be a vegetarian and don't eat meats. There are benefits that horse racing gives. Those cruelties are isolated cases that were punishable by law. If caught, these people will face the law.
There's no perfect industry in the first place that's why instead of banning those, strict regulations should be imposed.
Thoroughbred horses if I am not wrong. Those are the ones that race as well as possible, along with Arabian horses as well. Horses were used by people for many years, I mean they have been used in wars as well, which saw thousands dead at a time on each battle. The problem here is not that horses are used for something, of course they could be used, it is how they are raced that is the problem.Sorry but horse racing is a part of the ecosystem. It benefits humans too. If you are concerned about animal cruelty then be a vegetarian and don't eat meats. There are benefits that horse racing gives. Those cruelties are isolated cases that were punishable by law. If caught, these people will face the law.
There's no perfect industry in the first place that's why instead of banning those, strict regulations should be imposed.
If you look at how racing horses are looked for in the farms, I am pretty sure there are millions, maybe even a billion people who are not living that greatly, horses are treated like amazingly because they make the owners money so they are looked after very carefully. However during the races the whip should be gone, and shouldn't be used, that is number one problem. Just all around race itself could be arranged a bit better instead.
I did a little googling about horse racing and found this...
Even today, horse racing is still called the sport of kings. it's almost impossible to get banned on horse racing because the opponents are nobles who still love horse racing and make bets on it. Honestly, I really like watching horse racing and I don't really support this old sport being banned.
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Horse racing is an ancient sport. Its origins date back to about 4500 BC among the nomadic tribesmen of Central Asia (who first domesticated the horse). Since then, horse racing has flourished as the sport of kings.
Even today, horse racing is still called the sport of kings. it's almost impossible to get banned on horse racing because the opponents are nobles who still love horse racing and make bets on it. Honestly, I really like watching horse racing and I don't really support this old sport being banned.
I also don't think that this old sports will seriously find an organization or group that will sincerely ask for total ban.
You will go against the top class of society. And I don't think one will be successful in doing so.
Maybe, what one can do is to call these racehorse owners to stop the drug abuse or any other illegal means to these animals.
But who can strictly oversee this protocol? That's another thing because some people who is in charge can be bribe also.
kind of bans but it would be depending if how big the compaints or issues are but if we do talk about several people or few counts then it would be just surely be ignored which it isnt surprising.
Horse racing had been on here on this industry for a long time and its impossible that it would really be just simply be stopped because of those very common issues.
I did a little googling about horse racing and found this...
Even today, horse racing is still called the sport of kings. it's almost impossible to get banned on horse racing because the opponents are nobles who still love horse racing and make bets on it. Honestly, I really like watching horse racing and I don't really support this old sport being banned.
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Horse racing is an ancient sport. Its origins date back to about 4500 BC among the nomadic tribesmen of Central Asia (who first domesticated the horse). Since then, horse racing has flourished as the sport of kings.
Even today, horse racing is still called the sport of kings. it's almost impossible to get banned on horse racing because the opponents are nobles who still love horse racing and make bets on it. Honestly, I really like watching horse racing and I don't really support this old sport being banned.
I also don't think that this old sports will seriously find an organization or group that will sincerely ask for total ban.
You will go against the top class of society. And I don't think one will be successful in doing so.
Maybe, what one can do is to call these racehorse owners to stop the drug abuse or any other illegal means to these animals.
But who can strictly oversee this protocol? That's another thing because some people who is in charge can be bribe also.
I did a little googling about horse racing and found this...
Even today, horse racing is still called the sport of kings. it's almost impossible to get banned on horse racing because the opponents are nobles who still love horse racing and make bets on it. Honestly, I really like watching horse racing and I don't really support this old sport being banned.
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Horse racing is an ancient sport. Its origins date back to about 4500 BC among the nomadic tribesmen of Central Asia (who first domesticated the horse). Since then, horse racing has flourished as the sport of kings.
Even today, horse racing is still called the sport of kings. it's almost impossible to get banned on horse racing because the opponents are nobles who still love horse racing and make bets on it. Honestly, I really like watching horse racing and I don't really support this old sport being banned.
This kind of thing does seem painful to watch, but indeed it will be very difficult to ban it because there are some regions that still believe in the heritage of their ancestors who still use this as a tradition. regardless this is quite difficult to get banned.
but indeed when I don't like things like this I tend to avoid and don't want to know about things like this because when I say ban all at once this certainly won't work
but indeed when I don't like things like this I tend to avoid and don't want to know about things like this because when I say ban all at once this certainly won't work
There is no way we can ban it since it widely watched and popular among gambling community also. With so much animal abuse already going on in the world, I don't think someone will pay any attention to horse abuse. Similar type of things going on in Spain with bulls for centuries.
This kind of thing does seem painful to watch, but indeed it will be very difficult to ban it because there are some regions that still believe in the heritage of their ancestors who still use this as a tradition. regardless this is quite difficult to get banned.
but indeed when I don't like things like this I tend to avoid and don't want to know about things like this because when I say ban all at once this certainly won't work
but indeed when I don't like things like this I tend to avoid and don't want to know about things like this because when I say ban all at once this certainly won't work
Man is an animal, only that he is a higher animal. All big mammals have the same internal organs like man and this organs carry out the same functions in both man and animals. Anything that causes a horse stroke will also cause a man stroke long ago because horses are stronger than man.
It should be backed by science stroke on human is very much different in some way from horses, human develop it over time because of abuse on what he eats and what he thinks, horses are made to run, if it's a different animal race where the nature of them is not to run like monkey or turtle then it can develop depression on these animals.
I will like to read the research done by science on this as you claim. Please do put the link. From the little I know it is over stress that causes stroke in humans and not necessary what we eat. If animals are stressed too they can develop it. That horses can run does not mean they can do that without stress when they have loads on them. Carrying a human and running for a horse is load. It is not the same thing when they have to run without anything on their backs. That is what am saying.
Please do enlighten us that what benefit horse racing or any other animal racing provides. So far we have only seen bad aspects of that. AFAIK, nobody is interested in horse racing as a sports its only for gambling. Better focus on human racing, let animals live there lives.
You are one-sided based on your statement.
People have different views about horse racing in general and you can't just say to others that "focus on human racing" and let animals live.
You are disrespecting horse enthusiasts.
We should balance our opinions here regardless if you are a hardcore animal lover or not. Horse racing is regulated and I agree with some statements that it needs strict regulations instead of banning it totally as it won't happen in reality.
Everything in this world has both positive and negative aspects. There is nothing in world that has only positive aspect or only negative aspects. Likewise horse racing has both aspects. I agree that there are many enthusiastic of horse racing just like we have for football or rugby. Just place some strict regulations if there is some kind of animal abuse going on.
Please do enlighten us that what benefit horse racing or any other animal racing provides. So far we have only seen bad aspects of that. AFAIK, nobody is interested in horse racing as a sports its only for gambling. Better focus on human racing, let animals live there lives.
You are one-sided based on your statement.
People have different views about horse racing in general and you can't just say to others that "focus on human racing" and let animals live.
You are disrespecting horse enthusiasts.
We should balance our opinions here regardless if you are a hardcore animal lover or not. Horse racing is regulated and I agree with some statements that it needs strict regulations instead of banning it totally as it won't happen in reality.
Not all horse breeds are fit on the farm. There's a right breed for farming and racing. What you see on the farm aren't those that use for racing.
Sorry but horse racing is a part of the ecosystem. It benefits humans too. If you are concerned about animal cruelty then be a vegetarian and don't eat meats. There are benefits that horse racing gives. Those cruelties are isolated cases that were punishable by law. If caught, these people will face the law.
There's no perfect industry in the first place that's why instead of banning those, strict regulations should be imposed.
Please do enlighten us that what benefit horse racing or any other animal racing provides. So far we have only seen bad aspects of that. AFAIK, nobody is interested in horse racing as a sports its only for gambling. Better focus on human racing, let animals live there lives.
As you have already been told, these are not horses that graze in the pastures and are caught and forced to race. These are horses that are bred under special conditions, constantly trained and valued by their owners. They are more hardy to race than other horses.
Every creature that inhabits the planet is not perfect and therefore we can all die at any time. The same applies to animals, so I believe that the death of a horse during a race is nothing more than an accident.
Please do enlighten us that what benefit horse racing or any other animal racing provides. So far we have only seen bad aspects of that. AFAIK, nobody is interested in horse racing as a sports its only for gambling. Better focus on human racing, let animals live there lives.
If the human brain, has the same thoughts as you, of course people don't want to risk animals, let them be free in the wild, in fact the brain has different thoughts for every human being.Maybe for you horse racing bets have no meaning and value, but not for people who have traditions and culture, where horse racing must be done and there is an obligation, In the past, horse racing was only held in certain areas, now not, horse racing has become worldwide, especially England, Asia or Europe.
The benefits of horse racing are very large compared to slot games, poker, and so on, in addition to guessing a faster and stronger horse, addicts have their own charm in that regard, another example: if you are sure you want to make a 100% bet on a particular horse, you can place a 100X bet with a different person, if it's a 100X advantage that you have, that's outside of betting on online sites.
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Mankind has used animals for their own purposes since ancient times, whether for entertainment, work, or food. Too many people have no sense of remorse for animals because they think they are stronger. I, too, am against animal cruelty, but that doesn't stop me from eating pork, beef, or chicken. In many countries, animals participate in various cruel activities and they consider it traditional entertainment that has been established for a very long time.
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