I agree that racing horses is cruel to them there is no doubt about that. However, figuring out a way to stop that is the key point here.
If you just make it illegal, there will be some loss of votes for the politician that made it illegal, if you are ahead in the polls by a huge margin and there is no worry then you may end up doing it, but it wouldn't be really easy to pull off if it is close. Like for example Kentucky senator can't really propose such a thing, but I am sure New York wouldn't be a problem. All in all it's bad, but just like everything in the world, it comes down to politicians and what benefits them the most and how they could get votes.
Topic: Horse Racing and Gambling on it should be banned - page 8. (Read 1560 times)
I was spending some time with my friends parents and there was not only a huge party but all of them placed p2p bets on the horse racing. They asked me to come over as well, the ending was deeply sad and essential to cover : The horse died after winning of a heart attack.
The horse was presenting signs of heart attack on the camera but no one was actually even giving it a second thought and at the end when it was the last lap, all the horses got whipped excessively hard as well. That gets me to my point "why do you support horse racing?" This is honestly far to cruel to continue.
According the this site: https://www.horsedeathwatch.com/background.php they have seen more than 2000 deaths in around 5500 days. Most of the horses die during the match as well, they also have instances where they are exploited using drugs (doping).
Are you aware that most of the horses go through slaughter as well? Some of them have very bad injuries making them not even the least bit useful for the business therefore they are killed without second thought. I do hope people would get more aware and try and steer away from *horse racing*.
The horse was presenting signs of heart attack on the camera but no one was actually even giving it a second thought and at the end when it was the last lap, all the horses got whipped excessively hard as well. That gets me to my point "why do you support horse racing?" This is honestly far to cruel to continue.
According the this site: https://www.horsedeathwatch.com/background.php they have seen more than 2000 deaths in around 5500 days. Most of the horses die during the match as well, they also have instances where they are exploited using drugs (doping).
Are you aware that most of the horses go through slaughter as well? Some of them have very bad injuries making them not even the least bit useful for the business therefore they are killed without second thought. I do hope people would get more aware and try and steer away from *horse racing*.
That does indeed sound overly cruel to the horse but then again if we look at ourselves as humans and see what horrors we are commiting against other living creatures then its nothing out of the ordinary.
If an alien race saw us doing the things that we do to animals, especially animals that we kill to eat then that alien race would probably stay as far as possible away from the human race.
Its still a tragedy though. Horse racing is definitely one of the many horrors we commit on other life.
Horse racing is a gambling in which on the process for very long time , and those horse for the owner and for the gambler has its Sole Purpose and that is to serve as entertainment and also for gambling.
so whatever we are concern about the horse? this will not affect them because it is the tax that they are paying for the government is what matters here.
That's right, horse racing is one of the gambling games that tax the country with quite a large amount. In many countries, horse racing is the bet of the rich, and even many of the most respected influential people bet on horse racing. the percentage of horses that die during horse racing is very small, so horse racing does not have to be banned.so whatever we are concern about the horse? this will not affect them because it is the tax that they are paying for the government is what matters here.
Not only horse racing, but most gambling games are among the top tax payers, which is why the government enjoys gambling because of the money it brings in. here in our country, our president banned E-sabong (online cockfighting), which led to a lot of people losing their jobs and also the biggest problem is the tax if they could find a substitute for it. On the other hand, I do agree that in a few cases, horses die, which is why they didn't ban it.
We should not overreact to animal cruelty because legit horse racing is regulated by the government. If they will do an improper act, they will face the consequences of the law. Horse racing is not what others think as easy as simply running horses. There are guidelines and terms about the proper way of treating horses here before placing them on the race track.
^This. Horse racing is an industry that's been in place for SO long. Do you think its morality and ethics haven't been questioned in that period of time? It's probably been asked a lot really, and the government has probably done a LOT to actually address it imo. Ofc the core of this should always be to take care of horses as much as sports teams take care of their players. It's really just a matter of trying to improve the quality that horses are able to experience so that they can race to their fullest (naturally, that is). Having it virtually will have the idea of no more stressing the horses and I've seen those virtual ones and even I've played with it. This is much better than those using real horses.
As you said, that would raise questions about it being rigged. Horse racing is a battle of numbers after all, and I think virtual horse racing would simplify trying to identify those numbers (which would probably make it easier to predict winners). I would be interested to know how betting on animals helps people? As food, everything is clear to me, but as a subject of bets - no. Would you care to enlighten me on this matter?
Maybe the user means is by the general.
Since horse betting is a large industry, it helps people on the economic side. It produces jobs and money to support people. If it will be totally banned, it's a big loss in the employment rate.
We should not overreact to animal cruelty because legit horse racing is regulated by the government. If they will do an improper act, they will face the consequences of the law. Horse racing is not what others think as easy as simply running horses. There are guidelines and terms about the proper way of treating horses here before placing them on the race track.
If the horse race game is legal into a country I guess we don't need to worry about but still if there's some not good thing happen to them like into the cruelty I guess this is the time they need to take some actions even though it's legal still it's part of them to have a life. Also we know the industry already of the horse race is since the ancient period of time,, and this is the use as a mode of transportation because of its capability and strengths.
If i remember correctly, horse racing is popular in most parts of the world. You would find competitions of horse racing in US, UK, Australia and hong kong. If the sports are not being declared illegal, I wonder why would anyone want to ban gambling on these sports (horse racing) ?
Does not make sense to me.
I would be interested to know how betting on animals helps people? As food, everything is clear to me, but as a subject of bets - no. Would you care to enlighten me on this matter?
Maybe the user means is by the general.
Since horse betting is a large industry, it helps people on the economic side. It produces jobs and money to support people. If it will be totally banned, it's a big loss in the employment rate.
We should not overreact to animal cruelty because legit horse racing is regulated by the government. If they will do an improper act, they will face the consequences of the law. Horse racing is not what others think as easy as simply running horses. There are guidelines and terms about the proper way of treating horses here before placing them on the race track.
If the horse race game is legal into a country I guess we don't need to worry about but still if there's some not good thing happen to them like into the cruelty I guess this is the time they need to take some actions even though it's legal still it's part of them to have a life. Also we know the industry already of the horse race is since the ancient period of time,, and this is the use as a mode of transportation because of its capability and strengths.
Horse racing is a gambling in which on the process for very long time , and those horse for the owner and for the gambler has its Sole Purpose and that is to serve as entertainment and also for gambling.
so whatever we are concern about the horse? this will not affect them because it is the tax that they are paying for the government is what matters here.
This type of game had been in existence for long and it's always fun but it mostly end up on injury if proper care is not taken. The accident from horse racing can be fatal since it do happen on motion and horses to die long the scene. so whatever we are concern about the horse? this will not affect them because it is the tax that they are paying for the government is what matters here.
This game need to be regulated properly to prevent incidence that can affect the life of both horses that are used and also humans that are riding them. I have seen most case during horse race accident where the rider hot injured and the horse in question died instantly.
I would be interested to know how betting on animals helps people? As food, everything is clear to me, but as a subject of bets - no. Would you care to enlighten me on this matter?
Maybe the user means is by the general.
Since horse betting is a large industry, it helps people on the economic side. It produces jobs and money to support people. If it will be totally banned, it's a big loss in the employment rate.
We should not overreact to animal cruelty because legit horse racing is regulated by the government. If they will do an improper act, they will face the consequences of the law. Horse racing is not what others think as easy as simply running horses. There are guidelines and terms about the proper way of treating horses here before placing them on the race track.
Horse racing is a gambling in which on the process for very long time , and those horse for the owner and for the gambler has its Sole Purpose and that is to serve as entertainment and also for gambling.
so whatever we are concern about the horse? this will not affect them because it is the tax that they are paying for the government is what matters here.
That's right, horse racing is one of the gambling games that tax the country with quite a large amount. In many countries, horse racing is the bet of the rich, and even many of the most respected influential people bet on horse racing. the percentage of horses that die during horse racing is very small, so horse racing does not have to be banned.so whatever we are concern about the horse? this will not affect them because it is the tax that they are paying for the government is what matters here.
Horse racing is a gambling in which on the process for very long time , and those horse for the owner and for the gambler has its Sole Purpose and that is to serve as entertainment and also for gambling.
so whatever we are concern about the horse? this will not affect them because it is the tax that they are paying for the government is what matters here.
That's right, horse racing is one of the gambling games that tax the country with quite a large amount. In many countries, horse racing is the bet of the rich, and even many of the most respected influential people bet on horse racing. the percentage of horses that die during horse racing is very small, so horse racing does not have to be banned. so whatever we are concern about the horse? this will not affect them because it is the tax that they are paying for the government is what matters here.
I don't think it should be banned, it should be virtualized.
I have seen in the past virtual horse races where you can bet. And this way no horse gets damaged or abused in this sport. I'm not sure if someone offers this game now. But it could be a nice project for big casinos like Roobet or Stake.
I like that idea.I have seen in the past virtual horse races where you can bet. And this way no horse gets damaged or abused in this sport. I'm not sure if someone offers this game now. But it could be a nice project for big casinos like Roobet or Stake.
Having it virtually will have the idea of no more stressing the horses and I've seen those virtual ones and even I've played with it. This is much better than those using real horses.
But there are the bettors that would think that this can be rigged since it's virtual but that's part of it, a very common thought.
the actual experience in horse betting is still different from the real one. and when you are in a horse racing stadium, you would definitely know the reason why. sometimes, it serves as meeting place of family members, friends, colleagues or business partners and enjoy the race. i don't think someone can be the reason to change this culture.
but if you are not up to outdoor race, virtual racing is indeed a good one to explore with, esp by casinos/bookies as we are limiting our interaction with other people during this pandemic era.
I don't think it should be banned, it should be virtualized.
I have seen in the past virtual horse races where you can bet. And this way no horse gets damaged or abused in this sport. I'm not sure if someone offers this game now. But it could be a nice project for big casinos like Roobet or Stake.
I like that idea.I have seen in the past virtual horse races where you can bet. And this way no horse gets damaged or abused in this sport. I'm not sure if someone offers this game now. But it could be a nice project for big casinos like Roobet or Stake.
Having it virtually will have the idea of no more stressing the horses and I've seen those virtual ones and even I've played with it. This is much better than those using real horses.
But there are the bettors that would think that this can be rigged since it's virtual but that's part of it, a very common thought.
The approach should be, taking care of the horses, to ban it is cruel, that is what such horses are meant for and used to make money. I just see this like people saying bitcoin PoW mining should be banned because it is producing gases that can cause global warming whereas it supposed to be how the world can produce green electricity that do not produces gases that cause global warming. Why ban when many people are making living with the horses businesses that is related to racing.
To ban horse betting or any other gambling sites is I think not cruel but it can be a right thing to do because we all know that so many lives have been destroyed due to gambling but what is cruel is when those horses are being forced to race to their own graveyards.I think horses are not meant for horse races or gambling but the almighty god created them for a different purpose. If someone wants to make money, there are still so many ways to do it where no animals are being harmed. I don't know how you relate this to bitcoin mining but nowadays it's now possible to generate electricity without harming the environment; solar for example.
I was spending some time with my friends parents and there was not only a huge party but all of them placed p2p bets on the horse racing. They asked me to come over as well, the ending was deeply sad and essential to cover : The horse died after winning of a heart attack.
The horse was presenting signs of heart attack on the camera but no one was actually even giving it a second thought and at the end when it was the last lap, all the horses got whipped excessively hard as well. That gets me to my point "why do you support horse racing?" This is honestly far to cruel to continue.
According the this site: https://www.horsedeathwatch.com/background.php they have seen more than 2000 deaths in around 5500 days. Most of the horses die during the match as well, they also have instances where they are exploited using drugs (doping).
Are you aware that most of the horses go through slaughter as well? Some of them have very bad injuries making them not even the least bit useful for the business therefore they are killed without second thought. I do hope people would get more aware and try and steer away from *horse racing*.
Horse racing has faced such problems for decades and not much has changed since then, only the top racehorses receive good treatment while the rest receive awful treatment, and that is not even the worst part as there have been cases where the owners of racehorses which had great potential but failed to win kill the racehorse to receive the insurance money, this seems to have been the case in the death of Alydar which is considered to be the best racehorse to never win a championship, so without a doubt a great reform is needed but so far I do not see too much interest on doing so.The horse was presenting signs of heart attack on the camera but no one was actually even giving it a second thought and at the end when it was the last lap, all the horses got whipped excessively hard as well. That gets me to my point "why do you support horse racing?" This is honestly far to cruel to continue.
According the this site: https://www.horsedeathwatch.com/background.php they have seen more than 2000 deaths in around 5500 days. Most of the horses die during the match as well, they also have instances where they are exploited using drugs (doping).
Are you aware that most of the horses go through slaughter as well? Some of them have very bad injuries making them not even the least bit useful for the business therefore they are killed without second thought. I do hope people would get more aware and try and steer away from *horse racing*.
https://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/the-killing-of-alydar/
I know this is some kind of cruelty, but this is a really long-running sport and I know a lot of NGOs are campaigning to ban this, but it still failed. This is also like the cockfighting where all of the roosters that are lost usually die, or if not, they will be killed in the end because of the injuries. I know this is the most famous bet and they are still unable to ban it. I'm not for or against it, but it's still cruel, but when it comes to money, no one can stop it, and it's also about gambling, which a lot of big bosses partake in.
Thats what he should consider it out that there are lots of debates or argumentation about this particular sport about animal cruelty and its not really just limited to this but also in other animal racing type of sport that existing as of this moment or present which there might be issue or complaints raised but this isnt something nor be enough for it to be banned or stopped.Its true that this had been a long-running kind
of sport which its really impossible that it would really be getting a global ban because of such issue.Maybe if we do see huge number or being killed of these animals then there might be some
sudden u-turn of decision but we arent seeing that particular condition.
Could you be more specific as to why this should be stopped? Many animals exist literally because people need them for some reason, if you forbid this they will simply be killed and cease to exist (or will you feed them from your income?).
The second question is more general - why do you think that your ideas about how to properly use animals are more correct than, for example, mine?
The animals help humans a lot on the farm and instead of being used as a bet, it's better not to torture them just as a means of human gratification. In many countries, horses and chickens are used for consumption rather than as bets. At the same time, some dogs use it for consumption. Although some people still use those animals to bet.The second question is more general - why do you think that your ideas about how to properly use animals are more correct than, for example, mine?
I do not say that my idea is the most correct because what I think is right may not necessarily be right according to other people.
But when they are used as bets, they also help people.
After all, if people do this, it means they have such a need.
Need what? Having fun betting on animals? Looking forward to victory and bet winnings? Is this what people need? I've never bet on animals (this doesn't make me a saint in any way), but I just don't understand the need a bit.I understand that somewhere there is a border where the treatment of animals becomes cruel and unacceptable, but to be honest, I don’t know where it is and at what point we should put the interests of animals above the interests of man.
But for me it is difficult to define this border. Is it cruelty when a jockey makes horse run as hard as can? Is this very different from a horse on its own running fast somewhere in the wild being chased by predators? 
Could you be more specific as to why this should be stopped? Many animals exist literally because people need them for some reason, if you forbid this they will simply be killed and cease to exist (or will you feed them from your income?).
The second question is more general - why do you think that your ideas about how to properly use animals are more correct than, for example, mine?
The animals help humans a lot on the farm and instead of being used as a bet, it's better not to torture them just as a means of human gratification. In many countries, horses and chickens are used for consumption rather than as bets. At the same time, some dogs use it for consumption. Although some people still use those animals to bet.The second question is more general - why do you think that your ideas about how to properly use animals are more correct than, for example, mine?
I do not say that my idea is the most correct because what I think is right may not necessarily be right according to other people.
But when they are used as bets, they also help people. After all, if people do this, it means they have such a need. I understand that somewhere there is a border where the treatment of animals becomes cruel and unacceptable, but to be honest, I don’t know where it is and at what point we should put the interests of animals above the interests of man.
I know this is some kind of cruelty, but this is a really long-running sport and I know a lot of NGOs are campaigning to ban this, but it still failed. This is also like the cockfighting where all of the roosters that are lost usually die, or if not, they will be killed in the end because of the injuries. I know this is the most famous bet and they are still unable to ban it. I'm not for or against it, but it's still cruel, but when it comes to money, no one can stop it, and it's also about gambling, which a lot of big bosses partake in.
I don't think it should be banned, it should be virtualized.
I have seen in the past virtual horse races where you can bet. And this way no horse gets damaged or abused in this sport. I'm not sure if someone offers this game now. But it could be a nice project for big casinos like Roobet or Stake.
I have seen in the past virtual horse races where you can bet. And this way no horse gets damaged or abused in this sport. I'm not sure if someone offers this game now. But it could be a nice project for big casinos like Roobet or Stake.
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Humans are very inherently cruel, so many turn a blind eye to the death of a horse during a race or the abuse of animals during their exploitation.
Every day a huge number of people in the world die in a variety of situations ranging from diseases such as the common flu to wars. Few people pay attention to this, let alone animals used for racing.
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