Topic: Horse Racing and Gambling on it should be banned - page 12. (Read 1631 times)
I actually don't have idea that happened to a horse, does it mean it also happened to the greyhounds racing? I really am not a fan of any gambling that uses animals including rooster fighting, for me it should be banned but I think it would not be easily banned since from way before horse racing is a normal thing.
For a long time I have not liked the way animals, even dogs are used for racing sports for human pleasure. It defers animal rights and should be stopped. Those who campaign for animal freedom and rights, I mean those associations that persecuted Kurt Zouma for beating his cat should also come into this. Every form of animal race should be stopped. It is cruelty to animals. It is like a slave owner forcing his slaves to race.
If you know the pressure the long distant race puts on the health of these horses you will know how exposed they are to danger. Do you know the weight of the humans they carry to run that far? Am sure you as a human being can not carry a toddler and run up to a kilometer, so why think it is not a heavy load for horses to carry full grown humans weighing not less than 70kg and run that far? This should stop, and I repeat again that animal activists should come into this issue.
Unfortunately, this is a multi-billion industry and so many people depend on the horse racing industry even some governments are dependent on horse racing for taxes, especially in a third world country, the call should be on how to properly train and check horses that will run in a race, what I mean is good supervision to avoid horses from dying in the race it can be avoided we should stop horses dying from exhaustion, horses are born to run but we must not exhaust their capability.
Well, there are far more worse than horse racing when we're talking about animal cruelty.
Have you seen cock fighting? These roosters were installed with sharp blades to fight each other to death.
These kinds of business aren't easy to eradicate, because there is a lot of money involved in this kind of business and operators could actually pay even an excessive tax, permits, etc.
If these Horses were beaten and tortured after the race, that only means the business is doing well and is earning big amount of money considering the number of Horses died according to you. And they could afford to lose that many Horses considering again how much does 1 horse cost?
Have you seen cock fighting? These roosters were installed with sharp blades to fight each other to death.
These kinds of business aren't easy to eradicate, because there is a lot of money involved in this kind of business and operators could actually pay even an excessive tax, permits, etc.
If these Horses were beaten and tortured after the race, that only means the business is doing well and is earning big amount of money considering the number of Horses died according to you. And they could afford to lose that many Horses considering again how much does 1 horse cost?
You know that most of these horses are living the dream... right? A lot of these horses are getting groomed daily and they get fed a special diet and they are monitored full-time by Veterinarians and staff. 
Horses in the wild have to deal with predators and also finding good food and hiding places when the weather is bad.
So, you are seeing a very small percentage of the "bad endings" for many of the horses being used in horse racing. The owners are just being rewarded for all the money and effort that they are pushing into those horses and they do not want to see those things happening. (A lot of them see those horses not as a source of income, but as one of their pets)
Horses in the wild have to deal with predators and also finding good food and hiding places when the weather is bad. So, you are seeing a very small percentage of the "bad endings" for many of the horses being used in horse racing. The owners are just being rewarded for all the money and effort that they are pushing into those horses and they do not want to see those things happening. (A lot of them see those horses not as a source of income, but as one of their pets)
They don't care because they used to that already but you, you noticed it and act nervously maybe because it was your first time? Horse racing was not new and I think it was not illegal because if it is then it was stopped already long time ago. What is not right is if they injected drugs on the horse. I think that's also the number one cause on why the horses experience a heart attack and other health problems. Organizers should monitor their horses strictly and punish those offenders.
Are you aware that most of the horses go through slaughter as well? Some of them have very bad injuries making them not even the least bit useful for the business therefore they are killed without second thought. I do hope people would get more aware and try and steer away from *horse racing*.
I didn't know this but how did you know? I think they don't show this on national television but this is not right and if someone sees them, they can be reported and the gambling company will be shut down. An injured horse can still heal and become healthy, they just want to treat them right and after that they can use them again. No not to kill them. 
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Are you aware that most of the horses go through slaughter as well? Some of them have very bad injuries making them not even the least bit useful for the business therefore they are killed without second thought. I do hope people would get more aware and try and steer away from *horse racing*.
Here in our country ? the injured Horse usually go to slaughter houses to serve as food for the people and i think this is how this must go, why we Human gives too much concern for Animals? when they are born and raised to serve people? yeah they have Life but people needs to eat as well , and for this Horse racing must be banned? that is ridiculous lol.Are you aware that most of the horses go through slaughter as well? Some of them have very bad injuries making them not even the least bit useful for the business therefore they are killed without second thought. I do hope people would get more aware and try and steer away from *horse racing*.
For a long time I have not liked the way animals, even dogs are used for racing sports for human pleasure. It defers animal rights and should be stopped. Those who campaign for animal freedom and rights, I mean those associations that persecuted Kurt Zouma for beating his cat should also come into this. Every form of animal race should be stopped. It is cruelty to animals. It is like a slave owner forcing his slaves to race.
I was spending some time with my friends parents and there was not only a huge party but all of them placed p2p bets on the horse racing. They asked me to come over as well, the ending was deeply sad and essential to cover : The horse died after winning of a heart attack.
The horse was presenting signs of heart attack on the camera but no one was actually even giving it a second thought and at the end when it was the last lap, all the horses got whipped excessively hard as well. That gets me to my point "why do you support horse racing?" This is honestly far to cruel to continue.
According the this site: https://www.horsedeathwatch.com/background.php they have seen more than 2000 deaths in around 5500 days. Most of the horses die during the match as well, they also have instances where they are exploited using drugs (doping).
Are you aware that most of the horses go through slaughter as well? Some of them have very bad injuries making them not even the least bit useful for the business therefore they are killed without second thought. I do hope people would get more aware and try and steer away from *horse racing*.
The horse was presenting signs of heart attack on the camera but no one was actually even giving it a second thought and at the end when it was the last lap, all the horses got whipped excessively hard as well. That gets me to my point "why do you support horse racing?" This is honestly far to cruel to continue.
According the this site: https://www.horsedeathwatch.com/background.php they have seen more than 2000 deaths in around 5500 days. Most of the horses die during the match as well, they also have instances where they are exploited using drugs (doping).
Are you aware that most of the horses go through slaughter as well? Some of them have very bad injuries making them not even the least bit useful for the business therefore they are killed without second thought. I do hope people would get more aware and try and steer away from *horse racing*.
This is so sad but I think banning horse racing is impossible. People only care about money, especially those powerful people who are getting benefits on gambling, they would never ban it. Animal abuse is incurable, because we don't care what happens to animals as long as we're having fun, which is pretty sad. If you don't want to see horses dying or being treated poorly, I suggest don't watch it, though I agree with your point that horses and other animals shouldn't be treated that way.
Yes indeed, I am also aware that there are far more cows and pigs being slaughtered every day almost all of them are in perfect condition. But what does the quoted statement have to do with horse racing?
Not only that, slaughtering is even better. There are cattles that are used in most countries, especially Africa and Asia for farm work by mounting farm implement on them like the implement used for making ridges. That means those will stop as well which is not possible. I never think of horse racing as a cruel sport considering the horses used are being treated and cared for far more than a normal citizen. Accidents and unexpected stuff happen in sports. I am sure that these horses are checked and inspected by veterinarians before these horses run the race.
Which means what should be looked into should be about how the horses can be cared for and let them have the best health as possible. During the olden time, horse has been used it travels, wars and also in used for running.Well, if this sport is proven to be cruel, I can only think of pushing virtual horse racing to horse race lovers as an alternative, at least it is much easier to bet with cryptocurrency and watch at the same time. No more actual horse death then and the concern about horse cruelty will be solved.
Some people will still have preference on what they see real life than what is virtual, but people that have preferred online horse and dog race have increased even I will say they are many than people that prefer the real life event. For a long time I have not liked the way animals, even dogs are used for racing sports for human pleasure. It defers animal rights and should be stopped. Those who campaign for animal freedom and rights, I mean those associations that persecuted Kurt Zouma for beating his cat should also come into this. Every form of animal race should be stopped. It is cruelty to animals. It is like a slave owner forcing his slaves to race.
I was spending some time with my friends parents and there was not only a huge party but all of them placed p2p bets on the horse racing. They asked me to come over as well, the ending was deeply sad and essential to cover : The horse died after winning of a heart attack.
The horse was presenting signs of heart attack on the camera but no one was actually even giving it a second thought and at the end when it was the last lap, all the horses got whipped excessively hard as well. That gets me to my point "why do you support horse racing?" This is honestly far to cruel to continue.
According the this site: https://www.horsedeathwatch.com/background.php they have seen more than 2000 deaths in around 5500 days. Most of the horses die during the match as well, they also have instances where they are exploited using drugs (doping).
Are you aware that most of the horses go through slaughter as well? Some of them have very bad injuries making them not even the least bit useful for the business therefore they are killed without second thought. I do hope people would get more aware and try and steer away from *horse racing*.
The horse was presenting signs of heart attack on the camera but no one was actually even giving it a second thought and at the end when it was the last lap, all the horses got whipped excessively hard as well. That gets me to my point "why do you support horse racing?" This is honestly far to cruel to continue.
According the this site: https://www.horsedeathwatch.com/background.php they have seen more than 2000 deaths in around 5500 days. Most of the horses die during the match as well, they also have instances where they are exploited using drugs (doping).
Are you aware that most of the horses go through slaughter as well? Some of them have very bad injuries making them not even the least bit useful for the business therefore they are killed without second thought. I do hope people would get more aware and try and steer away from *horse racing*.
You bring up some interesting points that deserve further investigations. The use of whips should be stopped as we don't see that sort of action against animals in many other sports and it should be possible to ride without them. Doping is always a concern and I can only imagine that most big races would already be taking steps to stop this in fairness. That does seem like a disproportionately high amount of deaths, however it is worth considering that even highly trained athletes also suffer from heart attacks due to pushing themselves to the limits.
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Sad thing about this kind of issue is this kind of animal sports is already existed very long time ago and there’s a law allowing them. It needs a petition to stop this but I doubt this will likely gonna win due to money involved on this kind of business. There’s also a veterinarian checking the health of the animals before they allow them to race to make sure the race is fair to all bettors. I believe the blame should be put towards the health inspector or the owner of the horse rather than question the game itself.
Are you aware that most of the horses go through slaughter as well? Some of them have very bad injuries making them not even the least bit useful for the business therefore they are killed without second thought.
Yes indeed, I am also aware that there are far more cows and pigs being slaughtered every day almost all of them are in perfect condition. But what does the quoted statement have to do with horse racing?
I was about to comment this but good thing you already mentioned livestock. If OP is going to criticize the slaughter of horses, he might as well condemn all the killings done to animals for food. OP, it wasn't also their choice to be served in a dining table.
Are you aware that most of the horses go through slaughter as well? Some of them have very bad injuries making them not even the least bit useful for the business therefore they are killed without second thought.
Yes indeed, I am also aware that there are far more cows and pigs being slaughtered every day almost all of them are in perfect condition. But what does the quoted statement have to do with horse racing?
I do hope people would get more aware and try and steer away from *horse racing*.
I never think of horse racing as a cruel sport considering the horses used are being treated and cared for far more than a normal citizen. Accidents and unexpected stuff happen in sports. I am sure that these horses are checked and inspected by veterinarians before these horses run the race.
Well, if this sport is proven to be cruel, I can only think of pushing virtual horse racing to horse race lovers as an alternative, at least it is much easier to bet with cryptocurrency and watch at the same time. No more actual horse death then and the concern about horse cruelty will be solved.
Even humans do have heart attack. Horses are not giving medical care like humans.
You want horse race to be banned? Then you should want human 100 meter, others short distance and marathon races to be banned too.
If you want it to be banned, I mean hourse race, you want many other races to be banned, such as dog race. If you want that, you need to have political power. Even if you have political power, there are many chances that your proposal may not be accepted.
Of course, it is cruel to treat an animal like that, be it horses, dogs or other types of animal bets. But it seems to me that it will not be easy to ban and eradicate this as long as animal betting is popular and in demand. In some regions, this seems to be a tradition, and how do you propose to ban it?You want horse race to be banned? Then you should want human 100 meter, others short distance and marathon races to be banned too.
If you want it to be banned, I mean hourse race, you want many other races to be banned, such as dog race. If you want that, you need to have political power. Even if you have political power, there are many chances that your proposal may not be accepted.
I would also like to know what is the dynamics of the change in the number of players betting on races with horses? Are more or less people betting on horse racing? Perhaps people themselves will eventually lose interest from this and switch to other, gambling, for example? Online casinos as an alternative.
I was spending some time with my friends parents and there was not only a huge party but all of them placed p2p bets on the horse racing. They asked me to come over as well, the ending was deeply sad and essential to cover : The horse died after winning of a heart attack.
The horse was presenting signs of heart attack on the camera but no one was actually even giving it a second thought and at the end when it was the last lap, all the horses got whipped excessively hard as well. That gets me to my point "why do you support horse racing?" This is honestly far to cruel to continue.
According the this site: https://www.horsedeathwatch.com/background.php they have seen more than 2000 deaths in around 5500 days. Most of the horses die during the match as well, they also have instances where they are exploited using drugs (doping).
Are you aware that most of the horses go through slaughter as well? Some of them have very bad injuries making them not even the least bit useful for the business therefore they are killed without second thought. I do hope people would get more aware and try and steer away from *horse racing*.
The horse was presenting signs of heart attack on the camera but no one was actually even giving it a second thought and at the end when it was the last lap, all the horses got whipped excessively hard as well. That gets me to my point "why do you support horse racing?" This is honestly far to cruel to continue.
According the this site: https://www.horsedeathwatch.com/background.php they have seen more than 2000 deaths in around 5500 days. Most of the horses die during the match as well, they also have instances where they are exploited using drugs (doping).
Are you aware that most of the horses go through slaughter as well? Some of them have very bad injuries making them not even the least bit useful for the business therefore they are killed without second thought. I do hope people would get more aware and try and steer away from *horse racing*.
How cruel truly humans are. Not just to animals but humans too, boxing, mma, and other sports that requires two people to hurt each other. They are also betted on and cheer only they are not whipped like the horse. Horse racing is an old game, it is in history books and it won't be easily shut down. Here in our country it is also popular, and same cases happens. You know, it isn't that easy, look at cockfighting, there are people who want to stop it, chickens murder each other every single day and the people don't even care, they are animals too.
I don't think this should be a topic. If you are voicing concern like this, why not start a campaign on your locals and not in a GAMBLING SECTION. Be associated with the animal groups there in your place then start your advocacies.
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The gambling industry in horse racing is so vast and you should not just look at the negative effect on it. It's impossible that these horse owners don't really treat their horses with love and care even if that's for business purposes. How can you gamble a big money here if you don't take care of your horses?
I agree with you on this, these horses are picked to run a race because basically horses in their nature are born to run Humans have used these animals in all their travels, we are not killing them to run any horse owner will not do such a thing, it's his investment, as long as the horse is alive his investment is still alive
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The advocacy you want to raise here is subjective and calling the horse racing to be banned is not fit to discuss in this forum section.
It's impossible to do that government is making money from taxes and it support hundreds of industries and professions like veterinarian, jockeys and restaurants for their bettors, no way it will be stopped. 
I was spending some time with my friends parents and there was not only a huge party but all of them placed p2p bets on the horse racing. They asked me to come over as well, the ending was deeply sad and essential to cover : The horse died after winning of a heart attack.
The horse was presenting signs of heart attack on the camera but no one was actually even giving it a second thought and at the end when it was the last lap, all the horses got whipped excessively hard as well. That gets me to my point "why do you support horse racing?" This is honestly far to cruel to continue.
According the this site: https://www.horsedeathwatch.com/background.php they have seen more than 2000 deaths in around 5500 days. Most of the horses die during the match as well, they also have instances where they are exploited using drugs (doping).
Are you aware that most of the horses go through slaughter as well? Some of them have very bad injuries making them not even the least bit useful for the business therefore they are killed without second thought. I do hope people would get more aware and try and steer away from *horse racing*.
True. I never liked any "competitive" sports where animals were involved. All they do is torture those poor animals for their own satisfaction. Those who watch those are equally to be blamed for all the pain they cause to the animals. Worst are the people that places bets on those games.The horse was presenting signs of heart attack on the camera but no one was actually even giving it a second thought and at the end when it was the last lap, all the horses got whipped excessively hard as well. That gets me to my point "why do you support horse racing?" This is honestly far to cruel to continue.
According the this site: https://www.horsedeathwatch.com/background.php they have seen more than 2000 deaths in around 5500 days. Most of the horses die during the match as well, they also have instances where they are exploited using drugs (doping).
Are you aware that most of the horses go through slaughter as well? Some of them have very bad injuries making them not even the least bit useful for the business therefore they are killed without second thought. I do hope people would get more aware and try and steer away from *horse racing*.
They get euthanized, not killed by them. If they suffer from some injuries that can't be reversed, they are put down so they don't suffer in pain anymore.
This is a very ancient sport/game. It is not going to get banned. Probably never. Lots of football players die of heart attack every year. They run like horses too. The are many similarities between a horse race and a soccer game. Just because footballers die sometimes, do we need to ban football/soccer? This logic don't make any sense to me.
You are kidding here right? I mean, you are just making fun of soccer/football? The difference is the players chose to play, but the horses had no choice. If lots of players died of heart attack every year, they would have already banned the game.
I don't think this should be a topic. If you are voicing concern like this, why not start a campaign on your locals and not in a GAMBLING SECTION. Be associated with the animal groups there in your place then start your advocacies.
The gambling industry in horse racing is so vast and you should not just look at the negative effect on it. It's impossible that these horse owners don't really treat their horses with love and care even if that's for business purposes. How can you gamble a big money here if you don't take care of your horses?
And these horses are designed to compete in racing. It's not just your typical horse that you will see on the farm. There's a right breed for those who will put on racing purposes. The advocacy you want to raise here is subjective and calling the horse racing to be banned is not fit to discuss in this forum section.
The gambling industry in horse racing is so vast and you should not just look at the negative effect on it. It's impossible that these horse owners don't really treat their horses with love and care even if that's for business purposes. How can you gamble a big money here if you don't take care of your horses?
And these horses are designed to compete in racing. It's not just your typical horse that you will see on the farm. There's a right breed for those who will put on racing purposes. The advocacy you want to raise here is subjective and calling the horse racing to be banned is not fit to discuss in this forum section.
I don't think horse racing here is the problem. It's the way they're treated rather. I'd definitely be furious if you were to ask a horse to idk, do something they're really uncomfortable with, and make that as a contest, but I don't see any reason as to why we should have problems making a horse run, it's in their nature. But other than that, I'm fine with letting them race and be betted on. It's just like how we bet on other sports really, such as basketball, football, esports, etc.
And again the problem here really is how they're treated. I mean you wouldn't treat a sick player badly no? Nor would you force them to go and play if they're not feeling well, the same should be done with horses. Or any sports that involves animals for that matter.
And again the problem here really is how they're treated. I mean you wouldn't treat a sick player badly no? Nor would you force them to go and play if they're not feeling well, the same should be done with horses. Or any sports that involves animals for that matter.
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