Topic: I know there is no such thing as 'free energy' but what if it was possible? - page 6. (Read 18366 times)

And yet, there has not been a single case of an over unity device running for a year. Or even a few months. Hmmm...

A steel ingot fresh out of the furnace?

I've heard rumors of a shoe-box sized heat pump with an output in the kW range.

100G - 100 atmospheres, 100.1Bar, ~10MPa.

G is also a unit for pressure. Not just force.

Yes, it is quite easy to understand what happened to these inventions: they never worked is what happened to them.

Illuminati's Biggest Crime? Suppressing Tesla Technology

June 6, 2010
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Nikola Tesla, 1856-1943, the man who invented the "flying saucer"



by Christian Soderberg

(for henrymakow.com)

 

In 1911, Nikola Tesla revealed he was working on an anti gravity "flying machine".

 

"My flying machine will have neither wings nor propellers. You might see it on the ground and you would never guess that it was a flying machine. Yet it will be able to move at will through the air in any direction with perfect safety, at higher speeds than have yet been reached, regardless of weather and oblivious of "holes in the air" or downward currents. It will ascend in such currents if desired. It can remain absolutely stationary in the air, even in a wind, for great length of time. Its lifting power will not depend upon any such delicate devices as the bird has to employ, but upon positive mechanical action." - Nikola Tesla in New York Herald Tribune, Oct. 15, 1911

http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1911-10-15.htm

 

What happened to this anti-gravity craft of Tesla's?

 

When we understand that Tesla's "flying saucer" was powered by a so called "free energy system", a.k.a. 'over  unity'-system (you get more energy out than you put in) at a time when the fledgling aviation and motor car industry was based on the oil and petroleum, it is quite easy to understand what happened to these inventions.

 

Extracting energy from the Aether, and the so called 'aether physics', is based on the cosmos being 'all filled with substance', which is in constant, perpetual motion.


Because there is no empty space in the cosmos, every time the "aether" gets disturbed, which is all the time, 'replacement' takes place, and so the whole cosmos is in constant motion, energized by the so called Zero Point Radiation (ZPR), the electromagnetic-radiation between all particles of the cosmos, which comes in various frequencies, effecting the different particles accordingly.


The same way the atoms of our bodies are in constant motion, oscillating, and being 'kept together and separate' by electromagnetism, so it is also with this 'all permeating medium', the aether, which transmits the ZPR to the atomic matter, so energizing it.

 
In "layman's terms"; the craft excludes itself from the gravity of planetary bodies with high frequency and high voltage electromagnetic radiation, and propels itself in the aether-medium with these HF-electromagnetic waves. Because the craft is excluded from the planetary gravity, the crafts are capable of fantastic acceleration and sharp turns in high speed without the crew inside the craft feeling any G-force effects.

 

Not only did the so called Illuminati (industrialist-banking cabal) steal this "aether physics"-technology, they also changed the "human knowledge of physics", replacing the knowledge of this aether-cosmos with Einstein's theories, now promoted everywhere.

 

..to name few benefiting from this theft.

 

- J P Morgan (banking, energy, railroads, US Steel)

- Edison & General Electric (oil &energy, railroads, aviation, war industrials, banking)

- Rockefellers (oil, banking, Nazi connections through IG Farben)

- Rothschilds (banking, oil & natural resources ..connections to Kuhn Loeb & company through Jacob Schiff )

- Ford motors (motors, war industrials)

- Brown Brothers Harriman & Co (banking, ship yards, railroads, IG Farben)

- Du Ponts (chemicals& war industrials, General Motors, IG Farben)

- Vanderbilts (railroads, ship yards)

- Boeing Company (aviation)

- Lockheed (aviation)

 

... Oil & energy, steel and other natural resources, railroads, ship yards, aviation, car industry, spare parts, logistics, banking & finance, war industrial complex ..are some of the reasons to steal  and keep this technology hidden.

 

The official excuse behind this technology theft by this industrialist-banking cabal would be, of course; "In the interest of national security" .."if Al CIA-da  got hold of these..".


Hiding this technology "for national security" has cost humanity trillions and trillions of dollars and wrecked the health of humanity and the planet.

 

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For more information on Tesla's "flying saucer"-technology i suggest reading the books by William R. Lyne; Pentagon Aliens, Occult Ether Physics: Tesla's Hidden Space Propulsion System and the Conspiracy to Conceal It and Occult Science Dictatorship
- See more at: http://www.henrymakow.com/nikola_tesla.html#sthash.barOrjCW.dpuf

This has been done long ago, decades ago. I don't have any detail, but I expect that someone could research the people who did it way back - at least in the 1970s if not further back.

Think about river water. There is air in the water. Fish in your home fish tank use up the air that is in the water. If you want the fish to continue to live, you often need to bubble air back into the water.

The guys who did this process back in the '70s, thought that their apparatus took the air out of the water to be able to do what it was doing. I wonder if the water in the Griggs process could be used a second time? Perhaps it has simply had the air removed out of it by the heating, and would need nature to add the air back into it in the same way that nature adds air into all natural waterways, before it would work a second time for Griggs.



EDIT: Here it is, from 1974. Karl Schaeffer has patent #3,791,349 on this device. It is a bit different than the Griggs machine. Check it at http://www.rexresearch.com/schaeffe/schaeffer.htm .

I like this comment here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjGSXKSLpfY from Vanilla Face

" These so called "academics" are simply pathetic. Even if they had overunity device before their eyes, running for 1 year non-stop without a battery, they would take it apart, find nothing inside and then say "I don't see any proof of overunity. My physics textbook says it's impossible". What a bunch of ridiculous, useless people. "

ha ha ha !!

But all these guts are already claiming they know what to do. They have prototypes that they claim create free energy. So why did you bring up?


It costs $5,000 at most to patent it, at which point you can explain it publicly and not sorry about it being stolen. It probably costs much less than millions to create a small scale working model that you can use to prove it works, and let others test with. Why is money always an excuse with these guys, even if they have millions?


I know. I have an engineering background as well, in electromechanical engineering, dealing in linear motors and magnetic levitation. I also own patents and have been through the process of getting them, and have had to design and build my own models. I'm calling bullshit on all these things because I know how this stuff works.


What does danger have to do with proving whether it works? And what do you mean by 100G? The only way to get that kind of force is through centripetal motion, like on a spinning fly wheel. 100G is also not that dangerous if you use light materials or small scale. As for the lab, if he needs a lab and scientists to make this device to test it, then how does he even know it works? The only way would be to have some mathematical modeling engineering calculations. Should be easy to check and verify those.

That's how the MAGLEV patent I own is. Due to physics limitation, I can't build it too small scale, and the smallest scale possible would cost $170k, which is money I don't have. BUT, every piece of the invention is precisely mathematically calculated, using standard physics formulas, to every tiny detail, and can be checked and verified completely as a math model. Which it has been. You can calculate all the levitation forces, and prove that it works, without actually building it. That's how true engineers design stuff. Not this garage tinkering, hoping to accidentally guess something that will work without knowing how or why.


I'm arguing for the sake of pointing out that these guys are liars and charlatans at worst, and complete idiots at best. Sadly, the vast majority of them are lying scumbags.


My question, if you remember, is why does it need to be off? Let it use the extra energy it produces to power itself, and never turn it off. Problem of conserving produced power solved. But not a single one of these drives has ever been able to power itself indefinitely. Why don't you find that suspicious?



Also, oldest trick for these liars. Spend $3000 to $5000 to patent it, and no one will steal it. Better yet, give it to the world for free. People will give him a lot of money and praise anyway.


The universe runs on fusion, and there is no free energy in it. Stars enevtually fuse all the fuel they can, and die off. Planets and other orbiting things eventually slow down from friction, and fall into the star, assuming the star doesn't burn out and explode first. Everything in the universe is using up energy, not creating it.


Maybe yours is, but mine isn't. As I said, stop pretending that we are all nt smart enough, thus maybe things are true after al. Some of us ARE smart enough to know better. The universe engine that has been running for billions of years is loosing pass and burning up energy. There's a good change it will use all that energy up and stop after many more billion years. Or collapse back in on itself.

" Ere many generations pass, our machinery will be driven by a power obtainable at any point of the universe. This idea is not novel. Men have been led to it long ago by instinct or reason; it has been expressed in many ways, and in many places, in the history of old and new. We find it in the delightful myth of Antheus, who derives power from the earth; we find it among the subtle speculations of one of your splendid mathematicians and in many hints and statements of thinkers of the present time. Throughout space there is energy. Is this energy static or kinetic! If static our hopes are in vain; if kinetic — and this we know it is, for certain — then it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheelwork of nature. "

Nikola Tesla

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qO9QZmv6Q

highly recommend to get familiar with the following:
http://youtu.be/gcD1h9DYitg

humanity had access to unlimited energy. we lost it but knowledge of it is kept to this day by very few. tesla reinvented that knowledge but he was brutally scilenced..

there is a project underway to develop a new prototype of tesla tower in russia:
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/let-s-build-a-planetary-energy-transmitter

How's the saying go?

Gas, grass, or ass?

... Something like that.

Making a prototype would take much time and money. 1000$ would be if you already know what to do.

And the guy from Utah already has funding. He is building a prototype in Canada for an Oil company. He received millions, but needs billions to create a market applicable machine. Physics is not simple you know. It's delicate. Also dangerous he works with pressures of up to 100G. That's why you can't do it in your home. You need a lab and team of scientists to do that successfully.

Stop arguing just for the sake of arguing. He said that it needs power to start. But a part of the produced power would go for powering the unit. That's the tricky part. How to conserve the produced power while unit is off. Of course he will not reveal his full idea on youtube. Someone would steal it. Oldest trick in human character.

Do you really think that the Universe runs on Oil and electricity, and that there is no free energy running it? Who does then? The Uber Space People?

Its obvious that the Universe does not need an engine to run for billions of years. It's just that our tiny brains are incapable of dealing with it.

Yes there is! Random people on the internet raised $55,000 for some guy to make a potato salad on Kickstarter. I'm sure they would donate way for than that for something as awesome as a solution to the world's energy problem. Yet no one seems to ever be able to raise any money. It's as if they know that they can't prove their invention works to potential investors.


Why doesn't he borrow $1,000, build it himself, use it to power his house, and use the money he saves on not paying for electricity to pay for the patent? Even better, hook his neighbor us, and charge him half of what the power company charges. He'll earn enough to pay off the $1,000 loan and pay for a patent in no time.

And why are all these free energy invention guys such greedy assholes? Every single one of them claims they won't share the technology, because they want to patent it first. Did Satoshi patent bitcoin? Did Linus Trovalds patent Linux? Give the give of free energy to the world, and you will be praised and taken care of for ever. Hell, you'll even win a Nobel Prize, and that's a lot of money. It's as if the patent thing is just an excuse all of these guys use for not explaining how their system works, so they don't have to be held accountable or be xaught lying.




Yes. The full quote is "Energy can not be created or destroyed." Energy can only shift from one place to another, or be converted into and out of matter. When you run a motor, or use a conventional energy device, you are shifting energy from coal/wind/gravity/sun/nuclear fission into energy that moves your motor or heats something. When you create a "free energy" device, you are not shifting energy, you are creating energy out of nothing.


It doesn't matter how much knowledge we aquire, generation would never be 100% effective. There is always friction to overcome, even if it's from light glowing on the device, or magnetic fields from surroundings and the planet interfering with motion.


Scientists and physicists who actually know about this stuff (and anyone else who is educated enough) know they don't know everything. That's why their actual job is figuring out things they don't know. People who don't know jack shit make claims like "We think we know everything, " and then add, "in reality we don't know anything" to make themselves seem intellectually superior.


Not sure where your going with this, but most electricity in US is generated from coal. Must of it in Europe and Japan is from nuclear. If there was no oil, chances are we'd be driving electric cars, but I doubt we'd be in the dark ages.



I watched that interview. Note that everything is based on what he says, nothing is explained, and (this is the most important part) he has to plug it in to get it working, and then turns it off. Why not turn it on, plug it into itself, and just let it run indefinitely?

Asmi pointed put a while ago in this thread, why do all overunity machines have to be started up, and then shut down, instead of being allowed to run under their own power for ever?

Again - there is lack of funding of these people. First. Second - read my previous posts. The romanian guy's invention would cost you 1000$ to build yourself, but he needs a finished demo, to be able to patent it.
He wouldn't give you his idea, before he's sure he's going to cash in on it. That's normal. But If you can produce 1kW infinitely for 1000$ I think its way worth it.

Since I am not a physicist I cannot do it myself. But I can build it myself if I had the plan and parts. That's what I meant in my posts.

Arguing that there is no free energy is stupid. Einstein (a very smart man) said that no energy is lost in the Universe, it only shifts from one form to another. If we humans knew how to close that cycle any mean for energy generation would be 100% effective.

However, we are limited as human beings. We think we know everything, and in reality we know squat. If there was no Oil we would be living in the dark ages right now - no electricity, no hot water, no running cars. Don't you think that's pathetic?

I watched an interview with one Kiril Chukanov. He said that he invented a ball lightning electric generator that outputs 10 times more than used electricity, and when turned into the cycle releases to the electric network 3.5 times more electricity than used - so 100kW is turned into 350kW. He also said that the bigger the ball lightning - the larger the output. He said it can be done upto 1,000,000 x and a clear output of 350,000 times more than used - if you input 100kW you would be able to support a whole country, but It will be huge and will cost as much as a Nuclear Power Plant. But it's 100% green and free of fuel payments.

Look up gravitational potential energy, how do you think a dam works? Go to school.

Hint
UE -> KE -> e-

And again, I ask, why don't you make one of those yourself? Why are there dozens, if not hundreds, of these inventions, and not a single guy shares the technical details or instructions for how to build it, and no two people ever seem to build the same type of device?
And before you say "money," we have crowdfjnding and loans. Raise or borrow some money, build one at home, use it to power your neighbors' houses and charge them for electricity, then use that money to pay back investors or bank. Very easy, but no one in the entire world is doing it. Why?

These cars are very expensive at the moment

In a few years from now, all cars will be powered by Tesla Coils.

Just get a lot of hamsters and wheels.

Magic happens.

Boom profit.