Right from when I first started gambling on sportbooks I have always loved to have the pleasure of making my own predictions on all games. Like I found it as part of the fun with gambling and that has really built my confidence ever since at anytime I making my bets, with just a few analysis I choose my options for each match without thinking of sorting for some online groups or platforms where predictions are sold out. A great number of these tipsters are heavily living on those fees people pay to get their games which eventually fail to be successful but they won't tell us this.
Like seriously, where’s the fun when you can’t come up with your own predictions and test your luck? If one depends on others for predictions all the time, then it becomes pretty obvious that such a person is solely there for the profit rather fun. Yeah at some point a gambler may wish to just try us luck but maybe due to the fact that they’re not in the right position to make predictions at that moment, they decide to take predictions or tips from others, but some fail to understand that, the same way they feel that their own predictions may not be accurate, that’s the same way their own tips are not also accurate and may likely fail too. 
Topic: Illusion of control - page 4. (Read 2719 times)
It's just another phenomenon that gamblers often assumes that they have some control over the outcome of their bets especially if they have been doing it for a while even though every time is just purely random there's no skill involved. Take dice for an example we might assume that we can control and influence the result of it by throwing softer or harder or in anyway that our brain recognize a pattern and keep tells us it's a way to win the game. So let's discuss about it.
As for me - you have some control only in sport betting or some card games. Only in the situation when your actions can change something. You can analyze the match or played cards and after it you can make your turn.In all other casino games when you just drop your money and wait the result - you control nothing.
Exactly, you can use your knowledge regarding to whatever type of gambling you are involve with and you can set some limitations to avoid losing a lot, of but in terms of actual results there's no way that you can control it, upset can happen even how good you are researching and analyzing the game, or even how good your experience if you are playing cards there's no assurance that you can control everything though you can always limit the possible loss that you can afford to let go.
I think a lot, if not all gamblers have actually had a taste of it before they finally learned from their experience. I did learn from the harsh lessons on greed in both gambling and trading and I would say that it was not really a sweet experience to express greed and get disappointed at the end leading to so much lose which can only leave the person in regrets.
That's correct, and the fact that you said majority and not all gamblers shows that there are exceptions. Many learnt the hard way even if it was not too hard on them to realise, but the fact that one gets the conviction that they can actually make good something out of gambling just that easily leads them to spending much more than they could have possibly spent if they approached gambling in the right way without allowing their greed to control them. 
Not all gamblers knows that strategy isn't really a guarantee to winning games... And It's very disturbing for me when I get to hear gamblers stress so much about their strategies they use as what has been the main reason behind their major wins.
I think what's more disturbing is a situation whereby a gambler solely depends on another gambler's strategies and predictions and believing/trusting they'll definitely win using those strategies, especially those who pose to be gambling professionals who predict and share their predictions on their social media pages or groups, and sometimes people even need to pay a fee to join. 
Making use of other gamblers strategy is a normal for which I don't criticize but depending on them is a BS. it's people like that who do use huge funds to bet on games due to the personality from which the prediction were gotten but more often than not they get disappointed. The so-called professionals if they were that good in making successful predictions they would have turned billions and wouldn't have interest in giving out those predictions in exchange for a fee.
that’s exactly what I keep saying. And most people who depend on these online predictors for games don’t even reminisce on these facts, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with taking games from them, where I have a problem is when those so called expert predictors pose themselves as flawless to their followers and those who are naive end up believing them and setting unrealistic expectations for themselves. If you only knew... Actually the market for predictions for matches it is pretty much plaged with thousands or hundreds of thousands of people trying to scam money off the regular bettor or gambler, who does not have enough courage to bet using their own gut feeling or knowledge. It is always the same scam and unfortunately it is very effective for scammers to make money of off.
Scammers open a handful of groups both in Telegram or Whatsapp, and they make predictions on those groups so the predictions are never the same in all of them at the same time, as time goes on and more groups are discharged because they failed to predic their matches, only a couple of groups with 100% accuracy are left for the administrators to start to ask all members for money, in order to continue to receive more tips in the future, when the tips start to fail, the scammers take all the profit and run away with it.
Making use of other gamblers strategy is a normal for which I don't criticize but depending on them is a BS. it's people like that who do use huge funds to bet on games due to the personality from which the prediction were gotten but more often than not they get disappointed. The so-called professionals if they were that good in making successful predictions they would have turned billions and wouldn't have interest in giving out those predictions in exchange for a fee.
that’s exactly what I keep saying. And most people who depend on these online predictors for games don’t even reminisce on these facts, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with taking games from them, where I have a problem is when those so called expert predictors pose themselves as flawless to their followers and those who are naive end up believing them and setting unrealistic expectations for themselves. If you only knew... Actually the market for predictions for matches it is pretty much plaged with thousands or hundreds of thousands of people trying to scam money off the regular bettor or gambler, who does not have enough courage to bet using their own gut feeling or knowledge. It is always the same scam and unfortunately it is very effective for scammers to make money of off.
Scammers open a handful of groups both in Telegram or Whatsapp, and they make predictions on those groups so the predictions are never the same in all of them at the same time, as time goes on and more groups are discharged because they failed to predic their matches, only a couple of groups with 100% accuracy are left for the administrators to start to ask all members for money, in order to continue to receive more tips in the future, when the tips start to fail, the scammers take all the profit and run away with it.
That is why one is never supposed to trust tipsters with one's money, because we're they gold tipsters, then they would not need our money at all.
Yup it is really hard to ignore greed in a gambler and honestly I have also experienced it before especially when I am in a winning situation which I would say that in that situation a gambler like that will have much higher confidence and hope, all because they managed to achieve a previous win which made them bet the amount again instead of securing it by making a withdrawal.
I think a lot, if not all gamblers have actually had a taste of it before they finally learned from their experience. I did learn from the harsh lessons on greed in both gambling and trading and I would say that it was not really a sweet experience to express greed and get disappointed at the end leading to so much lose which can only leave the person in regrets.
Honestly I don't know and feel quite strange why it is always difficult to advise them not to apply greed in every time they gamble so that they avoid regret, but what is certain is the reason is clear that most likely it happens because they are too obsessed with winning, and also I believe that experience will always be a valuable lesson that can change them to the right path.
Making use of other gamblers strategy is a normal for which I don't criticize but depending on them is a BS. it's people like that who do use huge funds to bet on games due to the personality from which the prediction were gotten but more often than not they get disappointed. The so-called professionals if they were that good in making successful predictions they would have turned billions and wouldn't have interest in giving out those predictions in exchange for a fee.
that’s exactly what I keep saying. And most people who depend on these online predictors for games don’t even reminisce on these facts, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with taking games from them, where I have a problem is when those so called expert predictors pose themselves as flawless to their followers and those who are naive end up believing them and setting unrealistic expectations for themselves. 
Control in sports betting is just based on your analysis, and so if you are wrong then definitely you lost that control. Or if the games suddenly chance, let's say one player got injured and so the outcome might change for the bad and you might lose it as well.
Actually self-control or control depends on your readiness to accept the possibility of the risks involved, in any type of game from the beginning it is clear that risk will always be part of the game, so even if for example you are really very confident with your analysis it does not mean that victory will come, as you said that there will always be room for unexpected things to happen that can turn things around at the end of the game and for the problem of control when losing I think it is clear that it depends on a person's readiness from the beginning, simply even if for example at the beginning your analysis is correct but in the end you lose because of something that happens unexpectedly then you should not lose self-control if only from the beginning you already knew that defeat was still very possible. hero member
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Yup it is really hard to ignore greed in a gambler and honestly I have also experienced it before especially when I am in a winning situation which I would say that in that situation a gambler like that will have much higher confidence and hope, all because they managed to achieve a previous win which made them bet the amount again instead of securing it by making a withdrawal.
I think a lot, if not all gamblers have actually had a taste of it before they finally learned from their experience. I did learn from the harsh lessons on greed in both gambling and trading and I would say that it was not really a sweet experience to express greed and get disappointed at the end leading to so much lose which can only leave the person in regrets.
It's just another phenomenon that gamblers often assumes that they have some control over the outcome of their bets especially if they have been doing it for a while even though every time is just purely random there's no skill involved. Take dice for an example we might assume that we can control and influence the result of it by throwing softer or harder or in anyway that our brain recognize a pattern and keep tells us it's a way to win the game.
There is no need for a soothsayer before people know that such a person is deceiving himself and no wonder they fail bitterly in gambling. I don't know the aspect of the casino games you can master and be earning consistently with for a long period. Has that not hinted to the person how careless it is to think a pattern or control has been discovered? I advise anyone gambling casino games to neutralise his mind on the outcome, particularly, on the money because no one can ever guarantee a means of doing it better than luck.
It's just another phenomenon that gamblers often assumes that they have some control over the outcome of their bets especially if they have been doing it for a while even though every time is just purely random there's no skill involved. Take dice for an example we might assume that we can control and influence the result of it by throwing softer or harder or in anyway that our brain recognize a pattern and keep tells us it's a way to win the game. So let's discuss about it.
As for me - you have some control only in sport betting or some card games. Only in the situation when your actions can change something. You can analyze the match or played cards and after it you can make your turn.In all other casino games when you just drop your money and wait the result - you control nothing.
Control in sports betting is just based on your analysis, and so if you are wrong then definitely you lost that control. Or if the games suddenly chance, let's say one player got injured and so the outcome might change for the bad and you might lose it as well.
For some card games like Poker, maybe, but it will take years and years to perfect that craft. Those pro poker players didn't become overnight sensation. They really have to spend years behind to become so called a "expert" as they can read their opponents or pull off a great bluff.
It's just another phenomenon that gamblers often assumes that they have some control over the outcome of their bets especially if they have been doing it for a while even though every time is just purely random there's no skill involved. Take dice for an example we might assume that we can control and influence the result of it by throwing softer or harder or in anyway that our brain recognize a pattern and keep tells us it's a way to win the game.
There is no need for a soothsayer before people know that such a person is deceiving himself and no wonder they fail bitterly in gambling. I don't know the aspect of the casino games you can master and be earning consistently with for a long period. Has that not hinted to the person how careless it is to think a pattern or control has been discovered? I advise anyone gambling casino games to neutralise his mind on the outcome, particularly, on the money because no one can ever guarantee a means of doing it better than luck. 
It's just another phenomenon that gamblers often assumes that they have some control over the outcome of their bets especially if they have been doing it for a while even though every time is just purely random there's no skill involved. Take dice for an example we might assume that we can control and influence the result of it by throwing softer or harder or in anyway that our brain recognize a pattern and keep tells us it's a way to win the game. So let's discuss about it.
What you say is true, because basically the game situation actually changes what we think, although when we actually have limits in gambling but often those limits are destroyed just because of our greed, as is the case with the illusion you said, many of gamblers believe that they can influence the outcome of the game in certain ways, such as choosing a slot machine, the technique of rolling the dice and even the pattern of the picture on a particular game, but In reality, most gambling games are based on luck and chance that we cannot guess at all, because there is indeed no skill that can change the Outcome of a completely random game like slots, dice or roulette. 
It's just another phenomenon that gamblers often assumes that they have some control over the outcome of their bets especially if they have been doing it for a while even though every time is just purely random there's no skill involved. Take dice for an example we might assume that we can control and influence the result of it by throwing softer or harder or in anyway that our brain recognize a pattern and keep tells us it's a way to win the game. So let's discuss about it.
As for me - you have some control only in sport betting or some card games. Only in the situation when your actions can change something. You can analyze the match or played cards and after it you can make your turn.In all other casino games when you just drop your money and wait the result - you control nothing.
Not all gamblers knows that strategy isn't really a guarantee to winning games... And It's very disturbing for me when I get to hear gamblers stress so much about their strategies they use as what has been the main reason behind their major wins.
I think what's more disturbing is a situation whereby a gambler solely depends on another gambler's strategies and predictions and believing/trusting they'll definitely win using those strategies, especially those who pose to be gambling professionals who predict and share their predictions on their social media pages or groups, and sometimes people even need to pay a fee to join. hero member
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True, because the illusion will appear suddenly and we are not easily aware of it because we have been blinded and incited by the thought of a big win in front of our eyes that is very tempting so that controlling the illusion is very difficult to do. High illusions if not controlled properly, then the illusion will actually be a disaster in the life of a gambler. Yes, like when we are playing gambling, our minds are unstable and sometimes we hear something whispering whether it is true or just our feelings.
We will not realize when the illusion coming but we will attract to playing gambling longer than usual which makes us getting more losses. If we can not hold ourselves from the temptation of gambling, we will gets deeper and we will slowly become addicted to gambling. That is the big problem when we don't know if we are addicted to gambling because we will only want to playing gambling and don't want to stop for a while to take a rest. That will make us in a big problem because we will ruins everything in our lives and we are difficult to solve it if we still don't realize. 
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I think what's more disturbing is a situation whereby a gambler solely depends on another gambler's strategies and predictions and believing/trusting they'll definitely win using those strategies, especially those who pose to be gambling professionals who predict and share their predictions on their social media pages or groups, and sometimes people even need to pay a fee to join.
I'm not saying it's wrong to play a game predicted by someone else, no that's not it, all I'm saying is that, while at it, you mustn't solely depend/trust those games, you should still realize that things could still go wrong at anytime and learn to still gamble within your limits.
I think what's more disturbing is a situation whereby a gambler solely depends on another gambler's strategies and predictions and believing/trusting they'll definitely win using those strategies, especially those who pose to be gambling professionals who predict and share their predictions on their social media pages or groups, and sometimes people even need to pay a fee to join.
I'm not saying it's wrong to play a game predicted by someone else, no that's not it, all I'm saying is that, while at it, you mustn't solely depend/trust those games, you should still realize that things could still go wrong at anytime and learn to still gamble within your limits.
Yeah, at the end of the day, even if you use a direct bet from someone, or indirectly from information you gathered independently, you still are in a way looking at the world through what the news say, or the sports team perform, etc.
So, there's no such thing as a completely independent bet in a way. What matters is what you officially put on the line, more than just an opinion, because everyone has an opinion....
Not all gamblers knows that strategy isn't really a guarantee to winning games... And It's very disturbing for me when I get to hear gamblers stress so much about their strategies they use as what has been the main reason behind their major wins.
I think what's more disturbing is a situation whereby a gambler solely depends on another gambler's strategies and predictions and believing/trusting they'll definitely win using those strategies, especially those who pose to be gambling professionals who predict and share their predictions on their social media pages or groups, and sometimes people even need to pay a fee to join. I'm not saying it's wrong to play a game predicted by someone else, no that's not it, all I'm saying is that, while at it, you mustn't solely depend/trust those games, you should still realize that things could still go wrong at anytime and learn to still gamble within your limits.
Funny that there's really someone who thinks that they've got such control over their gambling activities, thinking that the strategy and the patterns that they are using are fully working and they'll not going to suffer to any defeats though we all knew that it's impossible to have a continuous winning streaks without experiencing any defeat and with such adrenaline it pushes a gambler to keep playing and the outcome mostly not in their favor.
The people who have this kind of mindset are those that were lucky enough to have gotten good results while trying a strategy out and all of a sudden they start to think that if they keep using that strategy they’ll be able to hit more wins without them realising that they were only lucky to have been able to win that period.
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