Topic: Illusion of control - page 5. (Read 2751 times)

That is the problem of Gamblers, when a gambler is trying out a strategy and it working, they feel like the strategy is working out Parhaps it was just a coincidence. Just after sometime they will realise that it wasn't their strategy rather their strategy worked inline with the win line those periods. I can remember my dad some week when he predict games And win, he is like I know the perfect strategy to win this guys, I will use this opportunity to win jackpot, only for him to stake the next game with huge amount expecting his strategy to work for him but will fail wofly and he will be like " what the fuck is going on"? Can't I just win big with my strategy?

There are no precise ways to control your bets; I decided to not agree on the fact that it's completely impossible to control what your outcome is because you never made specificities on the type we're looking at....
If this is about physical gambling joints were you'll have to roll the dice with your hands, then these are just one of a thousand skills you need - VITAL skills if I must rephrase that correctly. That's like switching up, with a better conformity than your previous self; that's learning how to do way Cheugy things like rolling the dice like a perfectionist already. You know what else you gotta learn in the hood BTW? Lol ...
But if this was solely about casino games, then I'll say it's just some logical regulations that cannot be bypassed, regardless of skills. If you ain't Lucky today, you may be tomorrow.

Indeed you can always feel you’re in control of your gambling and in charge of the outcome. Well, whenever that happens, then you’re sure the house would be out of business or perhaps, you’re not getting a chance to gamble on the house. You’ll be kicked out right at the door and that’s it.
The only thing you could get some control over in gambling is the frequency at which you gamble and what stake you do gamble with. That’s the best you can get and even that too is a huge win for you. It separates you from being an addict which is largely associated with gambling.
No one really gets to control the outcome of gambling but, the house could have a higher edge than you!

The people who have this kind of mindset are those that were lucky enough to have gotten good results while trying a strategy out and all of a sudden they start to think that if they keep using that strategy they’ll be able to hit more wins without them realising that they were only lucky to have been able to win that period.

If you check, most of them (that I described above) are the ones Th at will later come out to the public and start to spread news like “I once had a strategy that made me win lots of money, but then the casino discovered it and made changes” meanwhile in reality the casino did nothing they just happened to be lucky and now that their lucky isn’t working anymore they start to point the finger at the casino.

And that is because they are ambitious. Many gamblers are like that despite the reality that have strucked them, they can't accept that fact that not all of us are going to be profitable gamblers. Very few are going to be but it's not for everyone to become. Those irresponsible gamblers will understand what they are looking for and that's hard for them to accept the reality once they have nothing to gamble anymore. Because of their impulsive decision and gambling, they will realize that they've been tricked by the illusion of their own control.

Unfortunately, not all players are responsible gamblers. They want to bet even if it means losing all their current earnings because the bigger amount of their wager, the higher the chances they will win the game. But casinos are sometimes smarter than its gamblers, they will give the first shot to the gamblers first but as soon as these gamblers slowly falling on their trap, then they will set their strategy to finally make these gamblers lose and  lost their funds into gambling.

The answer is in the first post, what can we discuss here? The human brain (like many animals) does recognize patterns even where there are none. Based on this, various cognitive distortions arise, including the illusion of control/foresight. Similarly, by the way, people invent various signs for themselves (this is a case of false correlation). All these are mistakes and it is good when a gambler realizes this in gambling. Otherwise, he risks losing all his money/going crazy thinking that everything should be as he foresaw (and if this did not happen, then it is a conspiracy against him).

Yup it is really hard to ignore greed in a gambler and honestly I have also experienced it before especially when I am in a winning situation which I would say that in that situation a gambler like that will have much higher confidence and hope, all because they managed to achieve a previous win which made them bet the amount again instead of securing it by making a withdrawal.

On the other hand maybe I can say that greed is something that often leads a gambler to annoyance, regret and emotion, that is what makes them always trapped in various impulsive actions because of the inability to accept the fact that in the second try they lost or the results were not as expected, in this case what must be understood by the gambler is "the next result does not depend on the previous result".

I know those feelings too. This is just something that happens to almost everyone when they are always getting it right and the game plays accordingly based on how they predict it to be, but the ability to reduce those feelings and know that the game outcome won't always be in their favour.

Those who can't control that illusion are those who always fall into the trap of losing more than they expect to lose in gambling because of the too much confidence they have in their games.

True, because the illusion will appear suddenly and we are not easily aware of it because we have been blinded and incited by the thought of a big win in front of our eyes that is very tempting so that controlling the illusion is very difficult to do. High illusions if not controlled properly, then the illusion will actually be a disaster in the life of a gambler. Yes, like when we are playing gambling, our minds are unstable and sometimes we hear something whispering whether it is true or just our feelings.

Agreed, indeed illusions should not be involved when someone is gambling because the illusion will change the mind and feelings to be chaotic and unfocused, such as when you already believe you will bet $2, for example, but because of the uncontrolled illusion of height, we place a bet of $5 because he believes that he will win in that round, but again the results of gambling wins cannot be predicted easily and as a result we will suffer regret due to being too excessive in placing bets and the money will be lost.

Gambling has never and can never be something you have complete control over the outcome, you only predict a d hope it turns out in your favor at some point but ever thinking that your prediction is exactly what the outcome would be is just false hope.

Even with skills or randomly picking, experienced gamblers know that you only hope to get lucky and not think you are in charge, you may apply a certain strategy and it may pull through over a period of time and may later fail just to make you understand completely that luck is paramount in gambling than too many of hoping that your skillfullness got you to the point of victory.

Yea, greed is one difficult thing that most players can not overcome and that's why they show some of those characters in gambling. Only when you are very discipline that you can be able to follow the right approach of gambling in other not to be addicted and lose more than you have budgeted.

Yes, they are carried away by their own thoughts that are too obsessed with winning so that at all times they always think about gambling and also in various ways that they believe that they think can really affect the results of the game, I have a friend who likes to gamble on the type of slot game where every time he starts gambling he always flips all the features in the game he chooses such as increasing the amount of his bet to the maximum level and then returning it to the low amount and that is done repeatedly before he clicks the start button, but in the end the result is still a loss.
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One of the reasons why illusions should not be involved in gambling is because it is very possible for you to end up disappointed and emotional when it turns out that the ritual you are doing does not produce something according to what you expect, it can cause emotions and in the end these emotions often lead a gambler to various impulsive and excessive actions.

Not all gamblers knows that strategy isn't really a guarantee to winning games... And It's very disturbing  for me when I get to hear gamblers stress so much about their strategies they use as what has been the main reason behind their major wins.

Whereas neglecting the reality that there are more skillful persons somewhere using same strategy with a more advanced approach and broader knowledge but still not getting any wins because they just ain't in luck which at that point makes them wonder what they're doing wrong to be experiencing streaks of losses. At least we have seen threads of that nature in the forum with these sort of complains.

Yeah, at the end of the day I think what matters the most is if the gambler is having some kind of fun, while paying while gambling.

If they are not having fun, I think it is a good time to think about it and reassess it.

But who knows, maybe you are one gamble away of winning big, or losing it all....

Correct, even some are claiming that they knew the game so well but without good control they ended up losing their money, most gamblers who got that full confidence inside them suffers from heavy loses as they think that the strategy they are using will be useful enough to bring decent benefits, but in the long run they lose as they don't know when to stop.

But those who knows how to play with their emotions and have that good understanding that gambling always accompany by risk, they put limitation and keep it in mind that after reaching it they need to automatically stop. Those types of gamblers got decent edge either to win or not to lose everything inside thier wallet.

The soon gamblers realize that no strategy, regardless of how good can guarantee win for a gambler, yes developing your strategy and approach may sometimes give the gambler some kind of advantage and an edge when he plays, but that doesn’t mean he still won’t encounter losses.

Taking myself for an example, I have a local gambling outlet I do visit sometimes to try out my luck, and in my course of playing there, I’ve been able to develop a strategy which I use in their virtual football games, this strategy has in most of my visits proven to be quite effective as I’ll go in with a few bucks and come out with a handful of cash but sometimes I’d go and lose everything I went their with, and I’ll simply just accept that luck wasn’t on my side that day and I’ll leave and come back some other time.

That’s gambling for you, nothing is certain, even the strongest teams can lose consecutively and vide versa, take for instance, the performance of the great Manchester City lately, it’s indeed heartbreaking and no one expected this from them, but it is what it is. It’s okay to have a strategy that works well for you, but that doesn’t mean you should be 100% dependent on that strategy because it can fail at anytime.

Some scientists believe that randomness does not exist at all. What we call randomness is just one of the options for a future consisting of a large number of parallel realities. That is, there is already a winning game in one of these worlds. The task of a person is to direct reality into this version of the world. Recently, by the way, there was a TV series on a similar theme "Dark Matter".
So, is there a guarantee that something that is not available to an ordinary player cannot be done by a powerful psychic? I conditionally call it that term. You can call him a sorcerer, a monk, an enlightened one, etc.  It's not even a question of the game as such, but of the very possibility of influencing the fate of some part of reality. Therefore, what is an illusion for most may be a real possibility for some. It's just that it's not advertised, and is often ridiculed, for example, in the same way as "conspiracy theories" that supposedly do not exist.

We don't have to hear that sound in our minds because that can attract us difficult to stop gambling and just make us want to chase the win. We will forget that winning on gambling is not easy and we really need luck to win but the reality will not always happen as we want. We can lose more and more without we realize that we don't have luck so it is better we stop gambling and leave the casino. The illusion will behind us and still whispering to keep playing gambling and that can make us spends more and more money. That will be worst if we also lose control over ourselves and not realize what is happen to us so that is why we must always manage our control and know that the illusion will always try to tempt us to return to casino. We also need to limit our gambling activity to prevent the bad thing happens so we just playing gambling for have fun and not because of want to win the gambling games.

High illusions can easily comes to our minds and make us forget to manage our control in gambling. We will want to chase the winning even if we know that is difficult but the temptation to win the games is very high and makes us lose control. We can not win easily in gambling so we can only playing gambling for fun and not think to win from gambling. But if we can win, that will be a bonus for us so we don't have to think much about playing gambling too hard. Playing gambling is easy but we must prevent the losses become big by always limiting ourselves and control our minds. If we can do that, the illusion will not takes part in our minds because can block that whispering in our minds.

That’s how should be, but we can’t control some of those gamblers who show confidence that they know the game well and really expect that they will surely win on that. This is also one of those factors why gamblers develop deep addiction into gambling because they are gambling blindly, even if they claim that they are good in this, in that, but still end up losing and lose their funds as well.