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Kouye

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Cuddling, censored, unicorn-shaped troll.

Quote from: Lohoris on November 15, 2013, 07:03:35 PM

So, let's recap, stealing your coins wasn't enough, now he's also going to steal your identities and sell them?
This debacle is making me laugh more and more.

It sure would be even more hillarious if he was sending random amount of bitcoins to randomly hacked email addresses.
I just don't understand why he does not accept a simple BTC address signed message as a proof.

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Quote from: Lohoris on November 15, 2013, 07:03:35 PM

So, let's recap, stealing your coins wasn't enough, now he's also going to steal your identities and sell them?
This debacle is making me laugh more and more.

it does make me laugh. it's not a boastful or happy laugh, though, it's a hopeless one. i hope you people don't give this fraud your ID. it verifies nothing and is only being used by TF as a deterrent against people claiming their own money. i say go to your local authorities and see that an investigation is launched.

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Bitgoblin

So, let's recap, stealing your coins wasn't enough, now he's also going to steal your identities and sell them?
This debacle is making me laugh more and more.

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Quote from: wtfvanity on November 12, 2013, 05:00:31 PM

Quote from: Welsh on November 12, 2013, 04:02:20 PM

Quote from: Martijnvdc on November 12, 2013, 03:58:30 PM

He's just an 18 year old kid... If only we had known sooner...

Yes, although there is speculation over that. I'm sure I had read somewhere that he claimed or someone claimed to be 17/18 back in 2003 when he moved to Australia. (I'll see if I can find this information but I could be mistaken about this information)

However, the news report stated that he was 18.

Regardless, of his age. He should of had a backing. He shouldn't of let people to keep depositing even though he knew that if anything was stolen he couldn't replace it. This should of been a question asked right at the start.

Everyone keeps making it sound, like he knew this would be a long scam and could cash out. His exit strategy doesn't seem too bad. Pretend to be hacked, give some partial refunds to hush the loudest people, and pretend you're the victim. Not too bad.

Hey, at least this brings innovation to scam. I haven't heard of that one before, but I hope the upcoming dumb scammers try that and repay everyone by mistake (would btc-people still consider that a scam then ?!).

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TF isn't responding to any of the questions yet. Even though he's been active earlier.

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BTC⇆⚡⇄BTC

Quote from: Welsh on November 12, 2013, 03:51:08 PM

It will be a interesting what TF has to say for himself. He has obviously upset a few people by asking for id when id is not needed in the first place. Why would id prove anything? It proves that you have a passport & a utility bill. That's it. The accounts at inputs.io never had id verification in the first place. It sounds a little silly to be asking for it now. Also, he has only started doing it recently. Because many people had their refunds without any problems except for them being partial refunds of course.

Tf, should have known that he would of been a big target for hacks, therefore should have only allowed deposits which he could fully refund.

When you deal with Internet, PGP/GPG is even more important than gov IDs "papers" and "pics".

Unfortunately, that ID verification story does not smell good to me...

Those kind of events keep on harming the image of bitcoin worldwide. Undecided

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Quote from: Welsh on November 12, 2013, 10:24:00 PM

Quote from: thecoinjournal on November 12, 2013, 10:16:48 PM

He told Techcrunch in August he is 28:

Coinchat’s founder, a 28-year-old male freelance web developer based in Australia who (in keeping with Bitcoin’s shadowy origins) wishes to remain anonymous to avoid any Bitcoin associated “drama” or the threat of “doxxing”, tells TechCrunch the service has been up and running for about five months. In that time it has amassed around 8,000 registered users — mostly in Western nations, with a sizeable community of cash-strapped school age/college age folk among its user-base. There’s also an active Spanish community of Coinchat users.

http://techcrunch.com/2013/08/31/coinchat/

Ah. I don't think that's where I heard it. But, that's some nice information there.

It's here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/why-inputsiocoinlenders-users-might-not-get-fully-refunded-329136

I'm trying to find more about this scammer in Chinese forums.

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Quote from: thecoinjournal on November 12, 2013, 10:16:48 PM

He told Techcrunch in August he is 28:

Coinchat’s founder, a 28-year-old male freelance web developer based in Australia who (in keeping with Bitcoin’s shadowy origins) wishes to remain anonymous to avoid any Bitcoin associated “drama” or the threat of “doxxing”, tells TechCrunch the service has been up and running for about five months. In that time it has amassed around 8,000 registered users — mostly in Western nations, with a sizeable community of cash-strapped school age/college age folk among its user-base. There’s also an active Spanish community of Coinchat users.

http://techcrunch.com/2013/08/31/coinchat/

Ah. I don't think that's where I heard it. But, that's some nice information there.

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Quote from: Welsh on November 12, 2013, 04:02:20 PM

Quote from: Martijnvdc on November 12, 2013, 03:58:30 PM

He's just an 18 year old kid... If only we had known sooner...

Yes, although there is speculation over that. I'm sure I had read somewhere that he claimed or someone claimed to be 17/18 back in 2003 when he moved to Australia. (I'll see if I can find this information but I could be mistaken about this information)

However, the news report stated that he was 18.

Regardless, of his age. He should of had a backing. He shouldn't of let people to keep depositing even though he knew that if anything was stolen he couldn't replace it. This should of been a question asked right at the start.

He told Techcrunch in August he is 28:

Coinchat’s founder, a 28-year-old male freelance web developer based in Australia who (in keeping with Bitcoin’s shadowy origins) wishes to remain anonymous to avoid any Bitcoin associated “drama” or the threat of “doxxing”, tells TechCrunch the service has been up and running for about five months. In that time it has amassed around 8,000 registered users — mostly in Western nations, with a sizeable community of cash-strapped school age/college age folk among its user-base. There’s also an active Spanish community of Coinchat users.

http://techcrunch.com/2013/08/31/coinchat/

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Quote from: wtfvanity on November 12, 2013, 05:26:26 PM

You're quote of my quote was messed up, but in response to you, BINGO! Keep all advertising dollars inside the scam and the scam won't cost you a dime.

Exactly. Thanks for pointing that out. I normally quote manually and occasionally mess it up.

Quote from: rigel on November 12, 2013, 05:19:19 PM

Think about this: assuming inputs.io has been hacked the hacker knows email address of everyone.
Why he should not send fake emails and try to withdraw your money?
Sometimes it is hard to understand if an email has been forged.

Even though this is a good point, it's invalid. Just because of that reason doesn't mean he has to ask for identification. Instead he could ask for previous passwords, ip addresses logged in from. What's the current password. TF clearly states on inputs.io warning page this:

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however passwords are securely stored and are hashed on the client.

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WTF???

Quote from: Welsh on November 12, 2013, 05:22:41 PM

Whilst encouraging people to deposit into Inputs.io with his advertising campaign. He was offering double rewards for it. Doesn't that sound a little fishy?

You're quote of my quote was messed up, but in response to you, BINGO! Keep all advertising dollars inside the scam and the scam won't cost you a dime.

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Quote from: rigel on November 12, 2013, 05:19:19 PM

Quote from: Baitty on November 12, 2013, 10:50:25 AM

It's true. TF is asking for ID for refunds. Although, ID does not prove anything. There was never any ID connected to the account before. Therefore, the ID would not prove anything. He's using this to keep our coins and run away with them because he knows a lot of people can't trust him. Who knows what he would do with our ID.

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Hi,

We've identified this request as suspicious based on proprietary rules. In order to protect the amount against fraudulent claims, please attach a copy of a government issued photo ID matching your name. This is used for verification purposes only.

Think about this: assuming inputs.io has been hacked the hacker knows email address of everyone.
Why he should not send fake emails and try to withdraw your money?
Sometimes it is hard to understand if an email has been forged.

Yes he should require the email address and the account password. I don't see how an ID would help unless there is a dispute later and he needs a record of the claimant's identity.

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Quote from: wtfvanity on November 12, 2013, 05:00:31 PM

Everyone keeps making it sound, like he knew this would be a long scam and could cash out. His exit strategy doesn't seem too bad. Pretend to be hacked, give some partial refunds to hush the loudest people, and pretend you're the victim. Not too bad.

Whilst encouraging people to deposit into Inputs.io with his advertising campaign. He was offering double rewards for it. Doesn't that sound a little fishy?

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Quote from: Baitty on November 12, 2013, 10:50:25 AM

It's true. TF is asking for ID for refunds. Although, ID does not prove anything. There was never any ID connected to the account before. Therefore, the ID would not prove anything. He's using this to keep our coins and run away with them because he knows a lot of people can't trust him. Who knows what he would do with our ID.

Quote

Hi,

We've identified this request as suspicious based on proprietary rules. In order to protect the amount against fraudulent claims, please attach a copy of a government issued photo ID matching your name. This is used for verification purposes only.

Think about this: assuming inputs.io has been hacked the hacker knows email address of everyone.
Why he should not send fake emails and try to withdraw your money?
Sometimes it is hard to understand if an email has been forged.

wtfvanity

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WTF???

Quote from: Welsh on November 12, 2013, 04:02:20 PM

Quote from: Martijnvdc on November 12, 2013, 03:58:30 PM

He's just an 18 year old kid... If only we had known sooner...

Yes, although there is speculation over that. I'm sure I had read somewhere that he claimed or someone claimed to be 17/18 back in 2003 when he moved to Australia. (I'll see if I can find this information but I could be mistaken about this information)

However, the news report stated that he was 18.

Regardless, of his age. He should of had a backing. He shouldn't of let people to keep depositing even though he knew that if anything was stolen he couldn't replace it. This should of been a question asked right at the start.

Everyone keeps making it sound, like he knew this would be a long scam and could cash out. His exit strategy doesn't seem too bad. Pretend to be hacked, give some partial refunds to hush the loudest people, and pretend you're the victim. Not too bad.

Welsh

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Quote from: Martijnvdc on November 12, 2013, 03:58:30 PM

He's just an 18 year old kid... If only we had known sooner...

Yes, although there is speculation over that. I'm sure I had read somewhere that he claimed or someone claimed to be 17/18 back in 2003 when he moved to Australia. (I'll see if I can find this information but I could be mistaken about this information)

However, the news report stated that he was 18.

Regardless, of his age. He should of had a backing. He shouldn't of let people to keep depositing even though he knew that if anything was stolen he couldn't replace it. This should of been a question asked right at the start.

Martijnvdc

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Quote from: stenkross on November 12, 2013, 03:45:29 PM

Quote from: Martijnvdc on November 12, 2013, 03:43:25 PM

What address was the stolen BTC sent to? Can someone link me please?

https://blockchain.info/address/1EMztWbGCBBrUAHquVeNjWpJKcB8gBzAFx

thank you

Quote from: Welsh on November 12, 2013, 03:51:08 PM

It will be a interesting what TF has to say for himself. He has obviously upset a few people by asking for id when id is not needed in the first place. Why would id prove anything? It proves that you have a passport & a utility bill. That's it. The accounts at inputs.io never had id verification in the first place. It sounds a little silly to be asking for it now. Also, he has only started doing it recently. Because many people had their refunds without any problems except for them being partial refunds of course.

Tf, should have known that he would of been a big target for hacks, therefore should have only allowed deposits which he could fully refund.

He's just an 18 year old kid... If only we had known sooner...

Welsh

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Activity: 3276

Merit: 4111

It will be a interesting what TF has to say for himself. He has obviously upset a few people by asking for id when id is not needed in the first place. Why would id prove anything? It proves that you have a passport & a utility bill. That's it. The accounts at inputs.io never had id verification in the first place. It sounds a little silly to be asking for it now. Also, he has only started doing it recently. Because many people had their refunds without any problems except for them being partial refunds of course.

Tf, should have known that he would of been a big target for hacks, therefore should have only allowed deposits which he could fully refund.

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Quote from: Martijnvdc on November 12, 2013, 03:43:25 PM

What address was the stolen BTC sent to? Can someone link me please?

https://blockchain.info/address/1EMztWbGCBBrUAHquVeNjWpJKcB8gBzAFx

Martijnvdc

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What address was the stolen BTC sent to? Can someone link me please?

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