It is hard to opt-out from society, you'll be using public property and services everywhere you go, some people will want a free ride, but if they are using public property and services why souldn't they pay?
It is not theft, it is a fee.
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Is anyone of you a sovereign citizen or has tried to become one? How did that work out for you?
Later actions alter past actions.
If you have sex with a girl without her consent it is not rape if you later bring her flowers and offer to take her to a fancy dinner.
Just like taking money from someone without their consent is not theft if later you spend the money well.
If you have sex with a girl without her consent it is not rape if you later bring her flowers and offer to take her to a fancy dinner.
Just like taking money from someone without their consent is not theft if later you spend the money well.
This is really sick. Are you from Saudi Arabia? You can't make up for a rape by taking out the victim to a dinner later. Sex without consent is rape, and it must be punishable with the death penalty in addition to torture.
In that case, I need to apologize to Elwar.
But even if that is true, taxation with consent can't be practiced in real life. If paying taxes is purely voluntary, then how many of us would honestly pay their taxes? And it is not fair to have a small section of the society paying their taxes and another larger group refusing to do it.
The question was not how well things work.
The question was "Is taxation theft?"
Your response that taxation is not with consent would lead to the reality that taxation is theft.
Taxation as a theft will varies from country to country. Taxation is paid so that government could utilized those funds for the various development for the people of their country like improving education system, providing free basic education, hospital facilities, infrastructure, electricity at reasonable rates etc where government required money to do all this things. If government is dedicated in solving the people problem and honestly utilizing those money then there is no issue in giving the tax to the government.
Later actions alter past actions.
If you have sex with a girl without her consent it is not rape if you later bring her flowers and offer to take her to a fancy dinner.
Just like taking money from someone without their consent is not theft if later you spend the money well.
If you have sex with a girl without her consent it is not rape if you later bring her flowers and offer to take her to a fancy dinner.
Just like taking money from someone without their consent is not theft if later you spend the money well.
This is really sick. Are you from Saudi Arabia? You can't make up for a rape by taking out the victim to a dinner later. Sex without consent is rape, and it must be punishable with the death penalty in addition to torture.
In that case, I need to apologize to Elwar.
But even if that is true, taxation with consent can't be practiced in real life. If paying taxes is purely voluntary, then how many of us would honestly pay their taxes? And it is not fair to have a small section of the society paying their taxes and another larger group refusing to do it.
Plus, if people didn't pay enough tax and cities suddenly couldn't afford garbage men, police, and whatnot, then people would start paying taxes very quickly to fix the blatantly obvious problems.
Sure, voluntary tax would produce some problems initially, but in the long run all of those will be fixed as needed.
Later actions alter past actions.
If you have sex with a girl without her consent it is not rape if you later bring her flowers and offer to take her to a fancy dinner.
Just like taking money from someone without their consent is not theft if later you spend the money well.
If you have sex with a girl without her consent it is not rape if you later bring her flowers and offer to take her to a fancy dinner.
Just like taking money from someone without their consent is not theft if later you spend the money well.
This is really sick. Are you from Saudi Arabia? You can't make up for a rape by taking out the victim to a dinner later. Sex without consent is rape, and it must be punishable with the death penalty in addition to torture.
In that case, I need to apologize to Elwar.
But even if that is true, taxation with consent can't be practiced in real life. If paying taxes is purely voluntary, then how many of us would honestly pay their taxes? And it is not fair to have a small section of the society paying their taxes and another larger group refusing to do it.
Later actions alter past actions.
If you have sex with a girl without her consent it is not rape if you later bring her flowers and offer to take her to a fancy dinner.
Just like taking money from someone without their consent is not theft if later you spend the money well.
If you have sex with a girl without her consent it is not rape if you later bring her flowers and offer to take her to a fancy dinner.
Just like taking money from someone without their consent is not theft if later you spend the money well.
This is really sick. Are you from Saudi Arabia? You can't make up for a rape by taking out the victim to a dinner later. Sex without consent is rape, and it must be punishable with the death penalty in addition to torture.
Later actions alter past actions.
If you have sex with a girl without her consent it is not rape if you later bring her flowers and offer to take her to a fancy dinner.
Just like taking money from someone without their consent is not theft if later you spend the money well.
If you have sex with a girl without her consent it is not rape if you later bring her flowers and offer to take her to a fancy dinner.
Just like taking money from someone without their consent is not theft if later you spend the money well.
This is really sick. Are you from Saudi Arabia? You can't make up for a rape by taking out the victim to a dinner later. Sex without consent is rape, and it must be punishable with the death penalty in addition to torture.
For all you jokers who like taxes. Why not tax 100%? Tax everything. Tax even your mind so that you become a robot to Government, not able to think on your own, because you free will was taxed away.
I would happily donate tax/money if I knew it was used for good causes, such as keeping the city safe and clean, research of all kinds, education that isn't dreadfully bad and doing more harm than good, etc.
That said, since tax money is being blown for nonsense I'm completely against it in its current state. In my country you end up giving away around 60% of your income (VAT, Corporate and Income tax) if you are self-employed, which is just downright criminal.
I really hope that the Blockchain will create a shadow-economy that will force governments to comply with the wishes of its citizens. Governments could do so much good, but they just don't out of greed. The dumbest part about this whole shitshow is that if governments did actual good, they would be ending up with much more prosperity themselves. But nope, people keep supporting short-sighted morons.
For all you jokers who like taxes. Why not tax 100%? Tax everything. Tax even your mind so that you become a robot to Government, not able to think on your own, because you free will was taxed away.
Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs
It depends if taxes are spent to help improve the community. But, usually politicians just keep the taxes for themselves, now that is stealing.
If you have sex with a girl without her consent it is not rape if you later bring her flowers and offer to take her to a fancy dinner.
Just like taking money from someone without their consent is not theft if later you spend the money well.
It is, but you can fool them to think it's not.
And this is very funny with the tax returns that they do in the US.
Yout get robbed now, and at the end of the year you get back 10% of the stolen money, hurray free money, every sheep is fooled by it.
It's total mind control. Govern - Ment.
Later actions alter past actions.
If you have sex with a girl without her consent it is not rape if you later bring her flowers and offer to take her to a fancy dinner.
Just like taking money from someone without their consent is not theft if later you spend the money well.
If you have sex with a girl without her consent it is not rape if you later bring her flowers and offer to take her to a fancy dinner.
Just like taking money from someone without their consent is not theft if later you spend the money well.
Taxation is not theft because local tax agents say that it's your duty to pay taxes. And they are in authority so you better must obey them.
I mean disobeying somebody in an authority position is just so evil that I can't even find words on it.
I mean disobeying somebody in an authority position is just so evil that I can't even find words on it.
Local taxing agents use the tax money to enforce taxation collection that they do. It is a vicious cycle. If they didn't have the tax money, they wouldn't be able to enforce taxing people who didn't want to be taxed. It's like a big Mafia protection racket. Taxes are theft.
So, how did taxes get started in the first place. By people donating to a cause that they believed in. Then when the cause had success, the taxation never stopped, but rather, became the new focus of the cause. It was the taxation agents that did it. Rather than shutting down when the project was done, they said to themselves, "This source of funds for us is too great to shut down. We want more money from the people so we can live the good life." Because of this, we have a whole Government that lives the good life, supported by stealing from the rest of the people.
Taxes and taxation are theft.
I have wrote a very good piece on Marxism & the State:
https://steemit.com/anarchy/@profitgenerator/marxism-capitalism-and-the-state
A source told me that local tax agent's get a 10% commission on every tax cheater they find, out of the penalty they add.
For amounts under 15,000 EUR you usually don't go to jail, but they make you pay it back with interest + penalty, which could range as high as 200%.
So they catch you not paying 15,000 EUR, they slap a 200% Penalty on it, you must pay back 30000 EUR, out of which the tax agent that caught you gets 1500 EUR.
It's a total MAFIA RACKET. And then they go and harrass every small business owner every single day, to see if they are not cheating.
Man it's a total mafia racket, undeniable. All these idiots in this thread that defend taxation are brainwashed slaves.
Taxes it's like food for the public body. Without them there can be not one country in the world. But politicians and officials have adapted to steal money from the budget. This leads to the impoverishment of the state and prosperity of thieves.
Taxes are not necessary, at least the direct taxes. There can be indirect taxes such as the VAT and the GST. But you should also remember that there are a lot of nations around the world, which don't have any income tax. A few examples are the British Virgin Islands and the Bahamas.
NO. Its a way that the government gets funds so they improve the country and develop stuff for our own benefits and comfort
Which they could get by asking people nicely, and itemizing and localizing things. Why the fuck should I pay for things that are at the other side of the country.
Keep development and organizations local. I'd pay happily for fixing the roads in my neighborhood. I'd not pay for fixing the roads that are hundreds if not thousands of miles away from me that I never used.
Plus there is the threat of violence, pay, or we send fascists with badges to your door.... Yeah fuck that.
Taxation is not theft or an act of thieving. Taxation is our share that we must give back to society that transforms into government welfare services and others. It is just like going to school, if the students will not pay the tuition there will be no teachers, no classrooms, nothing only a barren land is there if there is no tuition fee. Paying taxes is like paying a pizza from a pizzahouse in exchange for the food. Taxation is like that, in exchange for justice, health services, protection and justice from criminality, road networks we pay taxes. If there are no taxes then who will build the roads, who will pay the police and military possibly there are countless chaos from warlords if there is no government. Taxes is the food of our government and of our nation without it we have no nation.
That's what they like us to think, not everything is transparent in all governments.
Taxation is never good. An informed people along with their donation to causes they understand, is what is good and right.
taxation is bad, especially when it is not transparent. I mean, who knows where they're spending those, and they only release public information in their convenience and when they do release, the accuracy of the information is still questionable. It is far better when the information were cryptographically verified. In that way, we can trust that the information is true. Just imagine if we can see our taxation through a bitcoin like system, looking your taxes at a block explorer.
There is a saying here in my country. You have to do two things in life, you have to pay tax and you have to die.
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